Most of it was practical and based on the real world of course. But, there's some interesting concepts that are shown in the movie that I go into more description of.
Iron Man's arc reactor is based on the Tesseract. The blue cube in Captain America 1 and Avengers 1. Tony's dad was able to study it and was able to theorize the energy but he wasn't able to recreate it because he was "limited by the technology of my time"
I'm pretty sure that is the new core that Tony made in Iron Man 2, because that was when the recording was shown and Tony found the structure of the element the core is made of (as you said, it's based off of the tesseract or the space stone. But not the previous ones because Tony didn't watch the recordings yet, and he used palladium for the cores.
@@trgyfhgnt3 Howard was able to partially recreate the energy of the tesseract, as the giant arc reactor proved it, but because he was limited by the technology of his time, it was imperfect and unfinished. So that's why he switched to palladium, cuz the prototype arc reactor was unable to keep up with the energy demand of the electromagnet and suit. But because he found his father's notes and the blueprint he laid out in the expo design, he was able to complete Howard's unfinished work and make badassium
7:59 It is said in the film that his armor is made of an alloy of gold and titanium because "it is more solid". Later in the scientific community, some had fun checking that out. And the film (luckily) was right; the gold-titanium alloy is much stronger (but also much more expensive) than titanium alone. So it's not surprising I guess?
It then just becomes a question of momentum and impulse. I wonder what was the relative speed at impact. And what if that really wouldn't have been enough to even fracture the suit.
@@AviationAustin as for taking a plane, I don't know if the armor would have resisted in real life. But in any case what is certain is that if it would resist the person inside would be shaken to death (literally I think) so...
I know this is an old video, but wanted to add a bit of detail/correction to the ejection seat claims. I used to work on GRU-7 and GRU-8 ejection seats. You are 100% correct that they are designed to work fully automated. However, they are also designed with barometers and DO NOT deploy the parachute until the seat has dropped below 8k feet. We dont want pilots freezing so we dont want to deploy a chute too early. The drogue chute will deploy right away to keep the seat stable as it falls (so its not doing flips and twists the whole way down) which then will pull the main chute and release the pilot once the barometer meets the required altitude.
How does this work in mountainous terrain ? If you are unlucky and eject with terrain features above 8000ft MSL you just hit the ground without the main chute opening?
@@Alexx120493 yes. This is correct. The seat would hit the mountain before deploying parachute. However, there is a manual option as well. The aircrew can manually separate from the seat earlier if they need too. Hopefully, they didn’t pass out before this is required. Many do from the g’s.
There are some ridiculous scenes though. For example, when Tony escapes from the terrorist camp in the prototype ironman suit that he cobbled together. When he sails through the air and lands in the desert he comes to such a sudden stop in the desert sand that even if the suit didn't come apart (which it did), he'd be little more than a splattered bag of goo. There's just on way he'd survive the g-loading of hitting the desert sand from so high up. And there are plenty of other nit picks. But it's a movie. It's for fun. And as an engineer myself I really love the Ironman movies.
@@succulentravioli954 I must see if Muthbusters have some episode on wrapping Buster in a bubble wrap sheet and letting him go out of a plane or something.
The Arc Reactor is supposed to be a type of theorized energy source called an 'induced decay reactor'. The premise was that you could bombard an isotope with some form of radiation, in this case I believe it is supposed to be a platinum-paladium alloy bombarded by electrons, to artificially induce a nuclear decay and capture the resulting particle as power. The platinum or paladium isotope decay trees do include an electron emission, and that particular isotopic decay induction was theorized at the time to be possible with a magnetic field. That was why they put in the scene of the Arc Reactor first needing to be kick started by an electrical power source before it became self-sustaining. I think the theory was later disproven with experimental testing, but the idea was beyond cutting edge back in the day.
The exhaust that comes out of Iron Man jets is plasma, and it leaves at around light speed. The momentum of low mass but extremely fast gas give him the propulsion needed to fly. The smoke stream is the plasma igniting the atmosphere. This kind of thruster is only possible because the Ark reactor has the power of a nuclear powerplant behind it to make this plasma. Impractical engine for anything that doesn't have an Ark reactor.
Thanks for this explanation. I had thought that it was supposed to be some sort of miniaturized Tokamak reactor, but that makes a lot more sense (even if the theory ultimately failed).
Yeah in later films, it really does seem like they are skimping on these little details. I know Tony's suit gets more advanced but it loses some of that sense of impact. It shows definitely when Joss Whedon did it in Avengers and continued with Iron Man 3 by Shane Black. I wish Marvel went back to smaller scale stuff like Iron Man instead of making every Marvel movie gigantic spectacle trying to outdo the last.
That also ties back into that whole "grounded in reality" thing that was mentioned earlier too. When every movie from Infinity War onwards is a matter of life or death for the universe, it becomes a bit corny and repetitive
@@ramonwang4611 Yeah,Black Widow and Shang Chi were definitely big examples of them trying to take stories that would have excelled with smaller budgets and instead making them blown up with needed excess flair.
@@jfletcher1029 They are going through the natural progression of how things would change for Tony as his tech changes. Think about it, He knows a guy who can shrink himself and tools and easily build things. Knowing this he is able to build something that is smarter and works much easier than his clunky suits from the past. After he loses each time he upgrades. He is a scientist, he is looking to perfect his gear.
Of course there are moments where things are a bit more suspended in disbelief. But most of it is grounded in reality. Like space travel and skip jumping. While we can only partially do it there totally could be another life form out there that is 100% capable of it. Magic and mythical creatures are on that edge of disbelief, though if Thanos is real and is part celestial then a dragon like creature makes total sense.
The part that took me out of it scientifically, is when he gets shot out of the sky. It doesn't matter what armor you're wearing, getting hit like that / landing like that will liquefy your insides.
@@crystllclr3743 yeah like in the movie hurt locker where when the bomb explode the bomb defusing guy died even though he ran away and sustain minor scar on the suit as his body got almost shredded inside from the shock wave
Not sure if this has already been pointed out but at 7:19 you have a note stating it is "Very important to know the plane you're flying, while you're flying it." A red arrow points to the F-22 in the HUD; however, I would like to point out that is what Tony is seeing. In the upper right hand corner is the what appears to be the arc reactor and suit inside as well as the red letters stating Engage Supersonic Flight. He scanned the plane to know exactly what he was dealing with.
@@AviationAustin I’ve trained on and have sat olin front of live radar scopes while in the army. I was attached to a Patriot missile defense battery. I can tell you the radar did not pick up birds and won’t. There’s parameters set for size and speed and nothing as small and as slow as a bird is seen.
One particular bit of science added in the Iron Man movies was the use of his hand repulsors as thrusters to help hold a parallel plane to the ground. In the Iron Man comics I grew up reading as a child, his boots were the main and only form of thrust and direction. It would be nearly impossible for Stark to hold that form while in flight.
5:23 notice how the calve "flaps" move outward when he's going up so that the flight control thrusters could do their job. Or maybe demonstrates the use of the flaps as control surfaces, that was quite nice.
Regarding the ejection failure on the F-22: I remember reading stories back around the time just before Iron Man 1 about incidents with ejection seat bugs which the military knew about. I think writers were adding real-life components to a great movie.
i was an ejection seat mechanic in the Navy. Ejection seats are never researched by movie makers. { ex: Goose would NOT have died ). When you pull that handle and the catapult cylinders launch you out of the cockpit it knocks your ass right out. The parachute catching air is what usually wakes them back up.
Tony’s suit is eventually made of vibranium alloy, the first controllable suit created in his home was a gold-titanium alloy. His very first suit was made from iron scraps while imprisoned in the cave.
I also enjoyed the first few marvel movies the most. They did indeed have a sense of grounded yet hyper reality. While I am not an engineer I have a long history in mechanics. I have built motorcycles from scratch in my shop. So seeing him build a flight suit at home that actually looked plausible. Well, that just excited me to no end.
What really impresses me is the G tolerance of Tony. Those quick maneuvers at such steep angles are just freaking dangerous 🤯🤯. Still,awesome. Love seeing these scenes😍😍😍😍❤❤❤❤
The comic and Film theory has been that the ironman suit has an inertia dampening system (Star Trek has them on the ships also) in it so that Tony's internals stay intact while in the suit. It is an anti gravity system that we as humans haven't yet achieved.
@@vgsschade839 MMM, not even close. The suit is worn so that Tony's auric field (aura) is enhanced to such a degree that each organ is surrounded in its own energetic barrier. An amalgamation of alloyed metals to introduce certain energies and vibrations into the body so that the body may produce its own general and specific auric fields. Superman, Shazam, War Machine, Spiderman, Vision, Wanda and a whole host of others do exactly the same thing. The movie "Chronicle" explains it very well by stating "as long as you see things coming they cannot hurt you, because of the barrier." Explains why Iron Man (for example) on rare occasion has bullet holes in his suit...didnt see them coming. Anti gravity is a weaponized misnomer meant to keep people ignorant, what you mean to say is directional levitation due to controlled vibrations of the body. Some may also call it tactile telekinesis.
Did you know that talent refers to a measurement of Gold? So what you are really saying is that he still has quite a bit of Gold in his body as he hasnt had enough time to remove it from his body thereby making him dumber. Typically expelled through the urine or fecal matter. Did you know that certain cows expel actual gold out of their body through urine? People do the same thing and there are quite a few studies on exactly that. "Dont P1ss your life (life force) away." "Flushing your life down the toilet." Depending on how "talented" one is they may even get a gold medal.
7:20, another neat detail is that he was cruising at mach .86 before thrusting to supersonic. This is about the airspeed at which wave drag kicks in due to the airstream above your lift surfaces going supersonic.
Iron Man's armor has Inertial dampeners. This is one more piece of impossible technology that makes the suit work. That's why he can survive a collision with an airplane's wing. It's also why he can jet into the atmosphere w/o visible signs of stress from G forces. Like the arc reactor it's never fully explained.
Tony has to have a suit dimension in there. v^2 - v0^2 = 2 * a * S, simple as that. No damper that could fit into the space in a suit could have damped the g forces from such collision and radical change of speed. So mathematically impossible technology indeed.
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2:45 and that’s where the old adage “accuracy by volume” comes into play. Similar to something like Operation Typhoon, this rocket sends out dozens of baby rockets, and the sheer number means you’re hitting something! 4:05 working on blueprints for a real one, and am now editing for that 6:03 let’s see if I remember my warbird jargon: Radar Cross Section, RCS. How big it looks to a Radar. RADAR RAdio Detection And Ranging. Stealth aircraft: looks very small. Much smaller than it really is. You can do this by making it paper-thin, making it absorb or knock off whatever’s detecting it, not emitting easy to spot exhaust, and more. Lastly, UAV, Unmanned Armed/Ariel Vehicle. Drones, robots, droids, you name it, sci-fi has it. We have lower-end ones as well. 7:15: I forgot Bogey! 7:35 looked like a CIS… 8:17 what I heard was a gold-titanium mix for the suit, but I’m pretty sure he has that as a coating over tungsten carbide. Which is used in modern tank armor, capable of shrugging of attacks a plane couldn’t afford to take without being far to heavy to fly.
Another section that deals with impact is when the flares deployed and the missile goes off right behind Stark and the blast catches and knocks him forward even more, while he wasn't at a stand still being launched by explosions in movies is probably one of the most common underestimations of inertia in movies. We can assume the suit protects against a lot of heat transfer, the quick pressure change and possibly even a little of the impact, but based on how he moved forward most likely he was close enough to the blast to experience the delta between his speed and the explosions speed in acceleration, which is likely enough to smash his brain against the inside of his skull or cause "shell shock" (we'll assume the suit also prevents whiplash since it can support his neck, good luck supporting the neurons in the brain)
6:55 Stealth that absorbs radar waves is early stealth from the F-117 on stealth is RAM radar absorbent material and a shale that will reflect the radar waves away from the direction that its expected to come from like the front 180. The SR-71 used RAM and a little of its shape to reduce its RCS. It also had the advantage of flying high and fast enough that a radar operator could believe its not a plane.
One thing not addressed in the physical mechanics of IM is the frailty of the organism in the suit. Long story short, the human brain and internal organs would be slammed against the surrounding structures every time a rapid vector change occurs. The suit goes one way, and the squishy human inside gets demolished in the process.
I totally agree that’s why a real suit would be impossible to make fly because the human body wasn’t designed to fly at such high speeds the fastest bird on earth wouldn’t be able to fly at its top speed and make a sharp turn it would kill itself hell even if it dived and hit terminal velocity and pulled out the dive and rapidly changed direction it’s brain would be mush
@@kanati that's a very good point, I had considered that as well. The only problem is vibranium is an vibration absorber, it still doesn't give inertial dampening qualities for rapid acceleration though
The repulsors (propulsion) works by taking in air, turning it into a plasma (free nuclei and electrons floating around), then taking the free electrons from the plasma and colliding them to form muons which are about 200 times heavier than electrons but also have a half-life (time to decay to half the number of particles) of a few microseconds, and shooting them out the ends by means of electromagnetic propulsion similar to an ion drive. To make a man fly with a particle drive you would need an insane amount of energy to accelerate the particles to within a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the speed of light. Luckily he has like 3 large scale nuclear reactors' worth of energy strapped to his chest.
@@HaloDude557 to clarify. Onboard tanks for environments without air. A back-up if you will. When operating in air the repulsors those tanks stay full. It's the same reason he can breathe in space inside the suit. There are special iterations of the suit with extended spaceflight capabilities.
Thats what I was thinking , the F22 broke its wing like a tissue paper meaning the relative speed at the time of crash was high enough for even gold-titanium alloy to be damaged considering Tony was still inside of the suit so even light damage like bending etc. would have cause malfunction but tony was able to restart the thrusters in his suit 😕
+1, compared to thanos's blade effect upon the suit at the infinity wars, we saw how easy it is to break tony's suit. The question is which suit has the most strength.
I never had an issue with the impact... as his suit is made of "magic" . My issue is with the F22 after the strike rolling in the wrong direction. but that could just be computer failure and the roll being induced by the tailplane.
@@zbeast , yup . The computers onboard must've tried to correct its trajectory but failed due to missing an entire wing . The shocking part is almost everytime when the pilot ejects the plane explodes right the next second as if there's a health bar 😂 and pilots exit after health reaches 1% 🤣
4:24 I really love the HUD details in Iron Man suits. Just look at the reflection in the eyes, how they managed to CGI it. It may be real, but still to hard to mimic this accurately.
You could also comment on the fact that despite generating zero lift, the suit can achieve level flight with all thrusters parallel to the ground. With no propulsion to counteract gravity, he would be in free fall
I love that you can suspend disbelief on the stuff that clearly nonsense and enjoy the detail in the rest of it. This engineer loves the iron man suit.
the boot thrusters use air, convert it to plasma and directed downwards to fly (at least that is what the comic book says it should do for the first few suit models) the hand repulsors are plain super science (they act like same polar magnets facing each other but it works for everything Tony feels like pushing away)
The arc reactor, at least at the start, is (I think) a cold fusion reactor. The palladium core is based of a theoretical idea that was tried for a while to use palladium to catalyze room temperature fusion. It didn't work of course, but I think thats what this is based off of.
The suit was a gold titanium alloy, which makes it stronger. Stark said that at the end, that his suit is a gold titanium alloy. So a piece of stronger titanium alloy, at high velocity, hitting a weaker titanium alloy, would make sense.. Imagine how strong a gold titanium sword might be. Very expensive to make, but might be worth it.
I never actually thought about the "propulsion" aspect of it. You're right, even if that arc reactor is a mini-nuclear power station that can generate enough energy for Ironman to use however he pleased, you can't propel yourself with energy alone - it's not like he can shoot energy out of his hands and feet and use them to fly. But, since we are talking about a movie where arc reactor is a thing, why not mini jet engines all throughout his body - channels that suck in air and push it out of his feat and hands with such force that propulsion happens? It's not something that would cause light/fire like in the movies but is it really any crazier than the idea of an arc reactor?
There is a jet suit that does actually exist that uses jet engines. But it has limited range and capabilities. It also requires the user to wear the fuel on a giant pack on his back.
Well tbh technically there is already real way to create propulsion using electricity alone (ion-propulsor). But not at the scale of lifting 300+ pound human flesh+armor. Just push satelite faster and faster in friction-less, empty void space. Maybe in the far future we, as human will have built Ion-Propulsor capable of doing what is happening in the movie with Stark ;) Only time will tell. The only part that it truly doesn't make logical sense is when he build a suit in a cave. I rly doupt he would have the material to do it.
Correct. But to be fair the one he built in a cave looked like it was rocket powered which he could have easily gotten access to since he was supposed to be building a missile.
I am not sure about the aero dynamics of the Iron Man suit. Assuming you can build thrusters, power source, navigation system, etc. into the suit to make it float in the air and move it around. But how would you be able to fly it the way Tony does? There are MAIN thrusters at the back, under the feet, on the palms; I find it hard to image how he can fly Superman style (without arms extended to the front). How does the placement of the thrusters create enough lift if he were to fly Superman style? I tend to believe a suit like that would allow the person to fly Green Goblin style (in an upright position) instead.
How do the thrusters work ? The look like tiny jet engines but the suit doesn't have any fuel to combust, I've always wondered how does a nuclear reactor produce thrust 😅
They could be ion thursters or a derivative. Although from what I understand about ion thrusters they produce very little thurst and are therefore only used in space.
@@ryanmarbut1035 yes exactly, and they only work in space because there's no drag (cause no atmosphere). But his suit as we see in the video, goes faster than sound 😅
The comics and movies refer to repulsor rays, apparently some sort of pressor beam, the reverse of a tractor beam. They just named the rays though, they don't explain how they work.
You could also pass air through a heat exchanger wich is pulling heat from the reacter, the rapidly standing air is passed out of the exhaust producing thrust, don't know how much heat that little reacter produces, you need alot to make it work
The most realistic part I've seen in the first Iron Man is Mark 1 or the suit he uses to get out of his imprisoned area. It actually makes perfect sense and is 100% possible to make in real life. There is no real unreal parts in the suit. It has flamethrowers on the ends of where Tony is able to grab onto, it has a jet pack installed in the boots a little around the torso I believe, and it has the most complex design. It's one of those designs that would be a nightmare to draw but when you are just making it out of scratch like Tony did, it makes perfect sense to be a little crazy looking. Either way I do find Mark 1 to be the only plausible suit to make besides the flying prototype that was just silver.
That F18 you showed was from my first squadron. When we first started the jet the pilot ran an”IBIT” which tests all the flight control surfaces, what you showed is what we called a “wipe out” to do a last minute check in the catapult before the shooters give the final thumbs up to launch. #VFA115 #EFR
The thing that always lost me from a reality aspect was when he would take a hit from something (direct hit from a tank round for example) and be complete unscathed. Regardless of whether the suit material withstood the blow, the human inside the shell would be completely destroyed. His organs, brain, ect would just be destroyed from the impact alone.
As someone that used to specialize in military munitions while in the military for almost a decade, the Jarico missile could be easily possible and smart. Look up cluster bombs that were used in desert storm to take out tanks and you can see how one could be updated to a missile today. CBU-105 is a start for you to look at.
I was thinking somthing like the tech used for a mirv but scaled down, main missle body selects targets, data upload to the small missles housed inside split off to independantly hit different targets, the guidance and targeting programs wouldnt be as hard, the hardest part would seem to be how they can produce so much explosive power, each one of the smaller missles looked like the sice of an average arm or leg but packed way more power then should have been possible, the shock wave was closer to the explosion in Berute (misspelled probably) then any conventional munition we currently possess
@@MrTrilbe i was thinking about that as well, but those tend to have a delayed effect before the large explosion, i may need to rewatch the scene again, but it wouldnt be as effective for bunker busting or heavily fortified positions, although the cuncussive blasts are really nice. I just thought the explosions looked more like high powered conventional explosives. On another note though cluster FAB is actually a scary thought if you can get enough spread on the indevidual warheads, ctr alt del grid square
@@morgankuikka4940 you have to account for movies not really being into realistic explosives and most moviegoers being knowledgeable about them, what matters is that it looks good on the screen
Thanks for the video, I appreciate your review. After watching it, I do have a couple questions from a layman's point a view. 1. You say the warheads that come out of the missile are not guided. But they come out in all different direction and orient themselves in a fairly uniform pattern. What could cause that if not for onboard guidance? Plus, they have propulsion which would seem to suggest some level of guidance. 2. Tony tests the control surfaces on his suit so we know they are there. But would they be effective considering the shape and position? Lastly, I was also a bit disappointed in how the Iron Man suit came out unscathed after tearing off a wing from a military jet.
1. Stabilizing isn't necessarily mean guidance. They could have some sort of gyroscope that orients them without specifically guiding them to a target. 2. normally it wouldn't be too effective but because he flies on his belly and very fast any small control surface would/ thrust vectoring would be effective. Even if they're not in an optimal location. Great questions!
A close look at the individual "warheads", they really look like just smaller missiles, complete with fins and propulsion and everything. Fins (when properly designed/placed) will stabilize a projectile quite passively, and propulsion in no way means a projectile is guided. And what constitutes "guided" is a bit of a fuzzy term anyway if we're being honest. If I recall correctly, the German V1 in WW2 was "guided" by a gyroscope and possibly a magnetic compass, and were easily knocked off course by carefully tipping the wing with your own aircraft. That said, quite likely this missile system is designed to establish a ballistic trajectory with a guided carrier rocket, and then split into the individual warheads to strike across a wide area for something like lethal area denial.
Small detail: When Tony is being chased, he looks to his left. At the speed they’re portraying in the movie, that minimal change would’ve at least destabilized him, which doesn’t happen. Still love the movie, it is really fun!
I think if tony has good control algo's on that thing, it wouldn't destabilize since some thruster should kick in to counter-act. At most his head turning would act as an air brake.
The handle that the pilot is attempting to pull on the ejection seat is called an emergency manual chute handle. It is a backup in the event that the primary mortar cartridge does not deploy the parachute or if the restraint harnesses re not released from the seat to allow seat-man separation. Parachutes will also not deploy until the seat is below 15K feet and the seat has been reduced to a speed below 250 kts.
Yeah, that was my biggest complaint too with those seats. The ACES II system is designed without the pilot in mind because they will most likely be unconscious flying at those speeds. If it's a low speed, low opening ejection, it won't be as bad, but still could be G LOC regardless. Having worked directly with Egress for several years on the F-15's at Kadena, I can also say that those helmets and masks are incorrect for the F-22. The mask would be a MBU-20/P and each helmet is actually designed specifically for each pilot using laser measurements. They also have a ton of HUD inside the visor of the helmets to give the pilots way more SA. Granted, they can't show all that since a lot of it is secret, but they could have done a slightly better job with it. Overall though an excellent movie! And a fantastic video!
I'll address the basic law of inertia and "It ain't the fall that kills ya, it's the sudden stop at the end" thing. As for Vibranium absorbing the shock etc. Tony didn't have access to such material in that cave. Ergo, the first suit was made of actual steel and when he crashed into that sand dune at the very beginning of the movie, Tony is moth-windshield soup. The end. (and no, the "soft sand" ain't gonna help break his fall)
Every time I see that scene, I think the same thing. They should have made him land at a shallow angle more closely matching the slope of the dune and had him tumble across the sand. They should have also depicted a lengthy operation and extremely long recovery period to heal all of his fractured bones. They could have done it in a simple 4 or 5 minute scene. It would also be cool if they explained that he created some type of technology in his newer suits that would counteract inertia and protect him. Even if it was bullshit.
The arc reactor is some sort of hydrogen fusion reactor. For propulsion, you draw in air at normal speeds, heat it with the fusion reactor, then let it explode out. This lines up with avengers. Tony's suit failed to work outside the atmosphere.
And he must have found a way for it to work without atmosphere because of the Mark 39, also known as Starboost or Gemini. And we can assume that the Mark 50-85 had that as well.
@@tejaspadhye was he? Or power and propulsion? Marvel doesn't get too deep into the details on their tech. Which is wise because it could be outdated very quickly.
@@nosuchthing8 if you remember while he was fighting the alien army ( i forgot the name) jarvis told him power at 7 percent, then proceeded to say running on reserve power. And he used all power to thruster to push missile into portal
When I was in the Air Force I was told all about the Egress job. They take care of the ejection seat systems. Sometimes those seats do fail. Rarely, but they do. I heard a lot of stories such as a guy was leaning over the seat when it ejected and he was slammed into the roof of the hanger and of course killed instantly. Another time I was told about a guy that somehow mishandled the rocket that is used in an ejection seat and it shot through him. Remember that 20 and 21 year old well trained, but still young people work on those Egress systems... along with older veterans of course.
If Im remembering correctly. I think the Mark 2 suit (the silver one) was actually a real suit they made for the movie, not cgi. At least for the scene before he starts flying.
-Only some flare countermeasures put out intense heat to ‘distract’ infrared misso led. -Titanium is used very sparingly in aircraft structures because it’s incredibly heavy. Mainly used in high stress or high heat environments. -ALL aircraft carry out flight control built-in tests or pre-flight tests before take off. -Ejection seats are fitted with barometric sensors to deploy the parachute and release the seat at predetermined altitudes. -Stealth aircraft not only absorb radar signals but can also deflect and scatter them away.
Oh no looks like you're right. It is tony's HUD. I guess the transition was so quick I confused them. Good call. Makes more sense now. Still, no way the CEO of a major defense contractor can't identify a F-22. Lol you know that was still for our benefit.
@@AviationAustin yeah either that, or jarvis just brought it up for some reason. Either way it isn't that necessary Edit: maybe it's protocol to bring up whatever they're engaged with, incase it had snuck up from behind or something
The Jericho is basically a "dear grid coordinates" weapon... those little individual warheads exist solely to spread the hate over a wider area, as opposed to one massive warhead striking in exactly one spot. Accuracy by volume, as some might say
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You left out one my father mentioned (he was a career ECS engineer)... The ice that formed on the suit (major device in the final scenes of this movie BTW) wouldn't actually present at all. Beyond a certain altitude the isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to contribute to such a problem, and the altitude required to reach said temperatures required to cause such a rapid freezing would prohibit the necessary moisture. Not only that but the speed and design necessary to facilitate the kind of flight responsible for such an occurrence would prohibit dragging moisture on the suit into that level of our atmosphere (in short, this would never happen as depicted). PS: I think he also said something about the quoted altitude being a non-issue altitude as it pertains to facing any combination of these issues. (None of this even comes close to addressing the issue of air friction that would naturally leave the outside of the suit insanely hot even potentially hours after landing.) So in short the whole ice phenomena depicted in the first movie makes no sense, the hit raptor wing actually makes more sense than that even (as vibranium was used in multiple Iron Man suits by Stark, not to mention that an incredible amount of shock absorbers would be required just to change direction or land in such a suit, let alone take a direct shot from a tank them fall out of the sky without dying... that's the sci-fi aspect at work). But why was a potentially non-issue addressed while such a very real issue was dismissed??? You be the judge. Peace. :)
+5 points for control surfaces, though the boundary layer effect probably makes them useless. +10 points for reactive control jets - 1,000,000 points for a reactionless drive powered by an "Arc Reactor".
Engineering wise, I would give this movie a C, on the fact alone that Tony would be mush inside the suit, pretty much from the first trials, let alone the rest of the movie mistakes.
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So in reference to getting hit by a plane wing and leaving unscathed, not only is his suit made of gold-titanium alloy so it’s much stronger than titanium, you’re also forgetting to take into account his plot armor being the main character which also makes his suit far stronger than even the gold he alloyed the titanium with😂
Ejection seats have changed a lot. Smart seats, like in newer fighters do not necessarily create GLOC. The way they operate becomes situation dependent. The automatic deployment can fail, and the seats do have a manual override built in which usually separates the pilot from the seat. Only once separated from the seat will the chute deploy.
@@AviationAustin No worries. But just to geek a little more... I'm sure you know that the higher up you go, the less oxygen there is. So, the reason for staying attached to the seat is that if you are too high, you will fall with the seat to a lower level where you can breathe unassisted. Only then will the seat release you and the parachute will deploy. If you ejected high enough and the chute deployed immediately you run the very real risk of dying due to lack of oxygen. (The seat has it's own oxygen supply routed to the pilot's mask to help them until there is enough oxygen in the air).
Have you watched/planning to do a reaction/assessment of their design, any of the Gravity Industries videos? The real human flight suit, it's pretty awesome how fast people are pushing the limits of aero tech these days. Only caught your vid cause I was doing research for one of my own. Good job. Could I pick your brain for some specifics on the original Iron Man Movie?
@@AviationAustin ok so I'm an animator setting up a dog fight, one faction is fast with poor maneuvering and long-range weapons, the other slower with great maneuvering and effective but medium/close range guns. I'll be honest, I don't understand flaps and how they help adjust flight, but I don't want to get it wrong either, that would be terrible. It's sci-fi but I still want it to be grounded in reality. Do you think you can help me?
I made a whole video on how aircraft use their control surfaces. This should help you understand how they all work. ruclips.net/video/SLU4mciRGTs/видео.html
Prior service military and aviation nerd here. I have a few nitpicks. The Jericho is pretty much a small MLRS or Multi-Launch Rocket System that dispenses some sort of submunitions which seem extremely energetic for the size, The larger 227mm rockets in use by the US don't even come close to massive fireballs everywhere. I agree I love the additions of reaction control nozzles and flight surfaces on the suit but would be extremely difficult to implement on a human shaped suit. The F-22's can lock on AIM-9X's on a target with no obvious (jet exhaust) heat source, AIM-9's are 'heat seekers', So it would rely on air friction and whatever little heat comes off of his 'engines', Its like shooting down a sidewinder with a sidewinder, pretty tough. Obviously he wouldn't survive the impact from the wing, The G-forces alone would turn Tony into pink mist. The M61A2 Vulcan on the F-22 does not sound like a machine gun but rather a brrrrrt. The Arc Reactor is a McGuffin.
My issue with the Iron Man suit is the G force and the effect it would have on Tony's blood. Pilots have to wear a G suit that compresses their legs and abdomen to keep blood in their brain. Otherwise, the G force can push all of their blood toward their feet and they lose consciousness while flying. And that's the case when they're sitting upright in a pilot seat! Iron Man flies head-first -- not in a sitting position. Any high speed flight in that suit (especially going supersonic) would ensure Tony would lose consciousness almost immediately. Tony would suffer severe brain damage from mere minutes of flight.
@@xbxb That's my point. It's a significant engineering problem with no viable solution. How Tony deals with this issue is never addressed. You have to assume he found a solution "somehow."
0:17 Despite what some of the internet will tell you, this is not Iron man. This is from a TV movie called 'Exo man' from 1977. It has no relation to Marvel or Iron man.
Hey man! I really love this video. I really admire your vast knowledge in aviation and aeronautic engineering. Keep up the good work! I am an Electrical Engineer and just discovered your channel. Maybe some of your videos may prove to be very helpful. Subbed.
LOL, ok. “The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.” Tesla
The fundamental science of Ironman is that he died as soon as he hard landed one time. At least the suit contained the goo that his body liquified into as soon as all the g forces tore his body to pieces inside of it. The scene where Ironman is flying along at 400 miles per hour ,the tank shell hits his suit and he barrels into the ground at 500 or so miles per hour is hilarious. First off,hell of a shot, tank crew. Secondly,from initial explosion,Ironman is a spam sandwich inside that suit. But it's a comic book story. Have some fun,take it for what it is and enjoy the skill that was obviously used to tell the story to you.
His suit is made out of gold-titanium alloy. In July 2016, researchers have discovered that a titanium-gold alloy is up to 4 times harder than titanium.
I am no engineer, but please someone explain to me how it's possible to be alive in that thin armor after being hit by the wing of a thirty ton fighter flying at MACH 1.
Pretty much everything Iron Man does violates physics. Some of his maneuvers would instantly scramble his inner organs. He would need some type of inertia cancelling technology to survive much of what he does. Add in being hit with munitions capable of taking out aircraft and ground targets, and there is no way a layer of armor would negate the kinetic force hitting the suit without transferring in through the occupant.
Its funny how comics always show people flying, like Superman and Iron man with face forward. But thats just looking "up" from anatomically stand point. So I imagine Tony changing his positions every few minutes coz of neck pains. Like a air swimmer.
I think they fly at an angle up and down but that can't really be translated in a comic book. You don't have to look up say if you're flying upwards at a 45 degree angle.
Technically anything can fly no matter how much drag it has, so long as you have adequate thrust.. controlling that thrust can be a major problem though, which is why they show the suit as having a ton of little control surfaces that are constantly changing to try to help create some lift, though overall a human shape is not conducive to flight and doesn't create any lift. If you get the chance, watch a F22's flap checks where not only do they do the mains but also the smaller control surfaces that are mostly computer controlled. That plane is amazing in just how many minute changes it's making the entire time it's flying that the pilot doesn't have to think about... well so long as it works. There's many planes in the US's arsenal that couldn't fly without AI these days, it's why the B2 was the first functional flying wing design.. Others had tried it in the past but controlling those is too hard for a pilot to do, it was only with the advent of computers/AI that they finally became operational. The F22, F35, F117 and others all couldn't have flown without the help of computers.. Honestly it's pretty amazing that the SR71 flew without AI helping it.
That suite isn’t much aerodynamic. Drag would be insane over mach 1. Surface temp would skyrocket at mach 3 or higher. I don’t know how he survives in that. Then again, this is fiction.
Can those 4 thrusters actually lift up an iron man suit? The suit must be pretty heavy judging it broke trough the floor like it was nothing. I understand that it is some type of exoskeleton, so moving with something this heavy can be easy, but flying? Also can you have good enough cooling system to not burn your hand and feet this way?
While mcu does try to keep things as scientifically accurate, they gotta bend the rules sometimes as well, coz if they went with complete accuracy this stuff wouldn't work, so they try to keep as much accuracy as possible but don't aim for complete accuracy coz they know it's not viable, like the arc reactor, it generates enough energy to power a rather strong electromagnet and a really advanced suit, but produces like no heat?
@@MH-fs3lf but the point of this video is if its possible. I didnt say the movie is bad because it is not scientificaly accurate. I just wanted to know his thought on it. Come on man...
What these movies do is break a few laws that inspire people to figure out how it could actually work. They are saying we can do all of this except for these few issues left to work out. Any ideas?!
I have been in aerospace for over 20 years including my military time. I try not to been too “geeky” with movies with aerospace in it. But it's nice to see movies that allow me not to freak out in my head about “what are they doing” with the stuff they are showing. We all dream of the day that iron man suits will be the reality for getting into work in the morning 😂😂
As u slightly mentioned, propulsion in the iron man suit is not explained. Beyond power required (ARC reactor) is a need for propellant. something to push through the jets to get things moving. In this case the only possible source is air its4elf. the suit has to suck in air, transport it throughout the suit and presses it to the point it can use a turbine to provide directional thrust. All this sounds good except for a few issues. 1) Quantity of air - HUGE! the amount of air needed is enormous, and since it is traveling through some really small and narrow tubes at well beyond Speed of Sound, with plenty of bends in it. the sheer noise and vibration would deafen anyone within 60 feet. As it vibrated the suit into its component atoms, lol. 2) Air intakes - No matter how u disguise them or how small u make them there is a minimum amount of air that has to physically get into the suit - each and every second. In short he is never going to be able to wear a cape. and any women standing next to him when he takes off better have brought spare dress and underwear.
Love listening to you geek out about the same details I love about Iron Man 👍 The suit would be huge on radar compared to any stealth aircraft though !
The arc reactor was originally based on an experiment done with large vacuum tubes, concentrating a huge amount of electrons between parabolic dishes with a resonant alternating current frequency. Apparently it started shaking the whole building before they shut it down. The repulsors that Iron Man uses for flight were based off an effect when like poles of a magnet are fixed at an angle to each other. It was deemed impractical material strengths and the high current needed to get enough force to move something. It may have had better results with pulsed or alternating current at certain frequencies, but it wasn't pursued other than as the background for comics.
Thank you explaining what a smart bomb is. Ironically, Ironman’s “Smart Bomb” move in the game series are literally just grenades that fall out of his armor. Not very smart 😐
At 7:18, i think that is Tony's HUD and its giving him the information about the jets tailing him. This is also supported by the pilots HUDs being green in the next scene.
When Gravity Industries created their jet suit they originally had thrusters on the legs and arms just like Iron Man but it kept flipping the pilot over on his rear end. So instead they settled for the arms being the main thrusters and the legs had to dangle below. When they started filming Iron Man they put Robert Downey Junior in a harness to film him flying around and found something similar with the harness. The arms had to support most of the weight while the legs simply hung below other wise he kept flipping over.
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Most of it was practical and based on the real world of course. But, there's some interesting concepts that are shown in the movie that I go into more description of.
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Iron Man's arc reactor is based on the Tesseract. The blue cube in Captain America 1 and Avengers 1. Tony's dad was able to study it and was able to theorize the energy but he wasn't able to recreate it because he was "limited by the technology of my time"
I'm pretty sure that is the new core that Tony made in Iron Man 2, because that was when the recording was shown and Tony found the structure of the element the core is made of (as you said, it's based off of the tesseract or the space stone. But not the previous ones because Tony didn't watch the recordings yet, and he used palladium for the cores.
@@trgyfhgnt3 Howard was able to partially recreate the energy of the tesseract, as the giant arc reactor proved it, but because he was limited by the technology of his time, it was imperfect and unfinished. So that's why he switched to palladium, cuz the prototype arc reactor was unable to keep up with the energy demand of the electromagnet and suit. But because he found his father's notes and the blueprint he laid out in the expo design, he was able to complete Howard's unfinished work and make badassium
@@endosym5023 🤣 forgot he called it that
@@endosym5023 oh I see
@Chris Martinez now that's cool analogy... Salute brother
Iron Man came out when I was 13 and made me want to become an Engineer, mechanically it fascinated me (regardless of realism ) so I now am one...
That's awesome! That's the magic of these movies done right!
…same
Same, i was 7 at that time but finally i became Medical doctor student LOL
I was 11, now I'm ending my degree in "Robotics and smart industry"
I'm 27 and still confused
7:59 It is said in the film that his armor is made of an alloy of gold and titanium because "it is more solid". Later in the scientific community, some had fun checking that out. And the film (luckily) was right; the gold-titanium alloy is much stronger (but also much more expensive) than titanium alone. So it's not surprising I guess?
Alloy is the most durable even a titanium can't break it
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It then just becomes a question of momentum and impulse. I wonder what was the relative speed at impact. And what if that really wouldn't have been enough to even fracture the suit.
@@AviationAustin as for taking a plane, I don't know if the armor would have resisted in real life. But in any case what is certain is that if it would resist the person inside would be shaken to death (literally I think) so...
@@wanrqu5045 what
I know this is an old video, but wanted to add a bit of detail/correction to the ejection seat claims. I used to work on GRU-7 and GRU-8 ejection seats. You are 100% correct that they are designed to work fully automated. However, they are also designed with barometers and DO NOT deploy the parachute until the seat has dropped below 8k feet. We dont want pilots freezing so we dont want to deploy a chute too early. The drogue chute will deploy right away to keep the seat stable as it falls (so its not doing flips and twists the whole way down) which then will pull the main chute and release the pilot once the barometer meets the required altitude.
That's awesome. Thanks for your knowledge and insight! I always welcome kind correction!
How does this work in mountainous terrain ? If you are unlucky and eject with terrain features above 8000ft MSL you just hit the ground without the main chute opening?
@@Alexx120493 yes. This is correct. The seat would hit the mountain before deploying parachute. However, there is a manual option as well. The aircrew can manually separate from the seat earlier if they need too. Hopefully, they didn’t pass out before this is required. Many do from the g’s.
lol gru
I stand corrected.
There are some ridiculous scenes though. For example, when Tony escapes from the terrorist camp in the prototype ironman suit that he cobbled together. When he sails through the air and lands in the desert he comes to such a sudden stop in the desert sand that even if the suit didn't come apart (which it did), he'd be little more than a splattered bag of goo. There's just on way he'd survive the g-loading of hitting the desert sand from so high up. And there are plenty of other nit picks. But it's a movie. It's for fun. And as an engineer myself I really love the Ironman movies.
That might be the most consistently overlooked physics with Ironman in general. The g loads would kill him in most scenes with the suit.
Maybe something about the suit falling apart that saves him? Like the collapsing cardboard boxes used in stunt jumps.
@@alexforce9 i don't think that'll do much 💀
@@succulentravioli954 I must see if Muthbusters have some episode on wrapping Buster in a bubble wrap sheet and letting him go out of a plane or something.
@@alexforce9 lmao fr
The Arc Reactor is supposed to be a type of theorized energy source called an 'induced decay reactor'. The premise was that you could bombard an isotope with some form of radiation, in this case I believe it is supposed to be a platinum-paladium alloy bombarded by electrons, to artificially induce a nuclear decay and capture the resulting particle as power. The platinum or paladium isotope decay trees do include an electron emission, and that particular isotopic decay induction was theorized at the time to be possible with a magnetic field. That was why they put in the scene of the Arc Reactor first needing to be kick started by an electrical power source before it became self-sustaining. I think the theory was later disproven with experimental testing, but the idea was beyond cutting edge back in the day.
That's impressive comic knowledge! Thanks for the description!
The exhaust that comes out of Iron Man jets is plasma, and it leaves at around light speed. The momentum of low mass but extremely fast gas give him the propulsion needed to fly. The smoke stream is the plasma igniting the atmosphere. This kind of thruster is only possible because the Ark reactor has the power of a nuclear powerplant behind it to make this plasma. Impractical engine for anything that doesn't have an Ark reactor.
Thanks for this explanation. I had thought that it was supposed to be some sort of miniaturized Tokamak reactor, but that makes a lot more sense (even if the theory ultimately failed).
@@funveeablejust to make sure, that is not physically accurate, just comic book science.
Yeah in later films, it really does seem like they are skimping on these little details. I know Tony's suit gets more advanced but it loses some of that sense of impact. It shows definitely when Joss Whedon did it in Avengers and continued with Iron Man 3 by Shane Black. I wish Marvel went back to smaller scale stuff like Iron Man instead of making every Marvel movie gigantic spectacle trying to outdo the last.
Yeah, it just went on to become a nano suit that could do everything and be anything.
That also ties back into that whole "grounded in reality" thing that was mentioned earlier too. When every movie from Infinity War onwards is a matter of life or death for the universe, it becomes a bit corny and repetitive
@@ramonwang4611 Yeah,Black Widow and Shang Chi were definitely big examples of them trying to take stories that would have excelled with smaller budgets and instead making them blown up with needed excess flair.
@@jfletcher1029 They are going through the natural progression of how things would change for Tony as his tech changes. Think about it, He knows a guy who can shrink himself and tools and easily build things. Knowing this he is able to build something that is smarter and works much easier than his clunky suits from the past. After he loses each time he upgrades. He is a scientist, he is looking to perfect his gear.
Of course there are moments where things are a bit more suspended in disbelief. But most of it is grounded in reality. Like space travel and skip jumping. While we can only partially do it there totally could be another life form out there that is 100% capable of it. Magic and mythical creatures are on that edge of disbelief, though if Thanos is real and is part celestial then a dragon like creature makes total sense.
The part that took me out of it scientifically, is when he gets shot out of the sky. It doesn't matter what armor you're wearing, getting hit like that / landing like that will liquefy your insides.
Yeah energy just doesnt disappear it has to go somewhere doesnt it one way or another
@@crystllclr3743 yeah like in the movie hurt locker where when the bomb explode the bomb defusing guy died even though he ran away and sustain minor scar on the suit as his body got almost shredded inside from the shock wave
Yep, and give you a brain concussion from which you will pass out immediately just to die very soon after.
@@arkplaysgame3826 yep most explosive deaths dont have a mark on them. Just liquefied their brains ect
Gotta say the gunner in that tank is also godlike for hitting such a small object flying that fast at a high angle compared to the tank.
Not sure if this has already been pointed out but at 7:19 you have a note stating it is "Very important to know the plane you're flying, while you're flying it." A red arrow points to the F-22 in the HUD; however, I would like to point out that is what Tony is seeing. In the upper right hand corner is the what appears to be the arc reactor and suit inside as well as the red letters stating Engage Supersonic Flight. He scanned the plane to know exactly what he was dealing with.
spot on!
As a radar operator, I love seeing that particular detail. Marvel truly did their homework
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So this may be a dumb thing to ask, but then do birds give off a small radar signal too?
@@MandalorV7 they’re not big enough to show up
Yes they do. I'm no radar operator but theoretically with a ultra high frequency radar a bird should show up the same way a stealth aircraft could.
@@AviationAustin I’ve trained on and have sat olin front of live radar scopes while in the army. I was attached to a Patriot missile defense battery. I can tell you the radar did not pick up birds and won’t. There’s parameters set for size and speed and nothing as small and as slow as a bird is seen.
One particular bit of science added in the Iron Man movies was the use of his hand repulsors as thrusters to help hold a parallel plane to the ground. In the Iron Man comics I grew up reading as a child, his boots were the main and only form of thrust and direction. It would be nearly impossible for Stark to hold that form while in flight.
Yea, that’s how Star Lord flies in Avengers Endgame and it doesn’t make sense!
For just flying the boots are ok but to maintain balance in mid air you need some kind of stabilizer
Also overlooked: In the original comic books Iron Man had wheels on his boots like roller skates.
@@stevenbergom3415 he also had at one time a nose. 😂
I did not know that. But makes so much sense!
5:23 notice how the calve "flaps" move outward when he's going up so that the flight control thrusters could do their job. Or maybe demonstrates the use of the flaps as control surfaces, that was quite nice.
You made a good point and that probably is. Thanks.
Regarding the ejection failure on the F-22: I remember reading stories back around the time just before Iron Man 1 about incidents with ejection seat bugs which the military knew about. I think writers were adding real-life components to a great movie.
i was an ejection seat mechanic in the Navy. Ejection seats are never researched by movie makers. { ex: Goose would NOT have died ). When you pull that handle and the catapult cylinders launch you out of the cockpit it knocks your ass right out. The parachute catching air is what usually wakes them back up.
What I really love is that they show an engineer testing things and show things going wrong during testing.
Tony’s suit is eventually made of vibranium alloy, the first controllable suit created in his home was a gold-titanium alloy. His very first suit was made from iron scraps while imprisoned in the cave.
Made me remembered aboau super alloy darkshine
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When regarding the Mk1 suit, it's important to note that Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave... with a box of scraps!
Tony never made a vibranium suit.
@@irregulargorilla8217 welcome to fiction
Not to be rude tho, just thought it was funny
I also enjoyed the first few marvel movies the most. They did indeed have a sense of grounded yet hyper reality. While I am not an engineer I have a long history in mechanics. I have built motorcycles from scratch in my shop. So seeing him build a flight suit at home that actually looked plausible. Well, that just excited me to no end.
Yeah I just watched the latest installation in the MCU. They fallen very far from their once grounded reality.
What really impresses me is the G tolerance of Tony. Those quick maneuvers at such steep angles are just freaking dangerous 🤯🤯. Still,awesome. Love seeing these scenes😍😍😍😍❤❤❤❤
It definitely looked cool. Haha
The comic and Film theory has been that the ironman suit has an inertia dampening system (Star Trek has them on the ships also) in it so that Tony's internals stay intact while in the suit. It is an anti gravity system that we as humans haven't yet achieved.
The AI is a nice backup in cases of unconsciousness.
@@brodriguez11000 Indeed👍.
@@vgsschade839 MMM, not even close. The suit is worn so that Tony's auric field (aura) is enhanced to such a degree that each organ is surrounded in its own energetic barrier. An amalgamation of alloyed metals to introduce certain energies and vibrations into the body so that the body may produce its own general and specific auric fields. Superman, Shazam, War Machine, Spiderman, Vision, Wanda and a whole host of others do exactly the same thing. The movie "Chronicle" explains it very well by stating "as long as you see things coming they cannot hurt you, because of the barrier." Explains why Iron Man (for example) on rare occasion has bullet holes in his suit...didnt see them coming. Anti gravity is a weaponized misnomer meant to keep people ignorant, what you mean to say is directional levitation due to controlled vibrations of the body. Some may also call it tactile telekinesis.
You have a talent at explaining complicated stuff 👍🏾
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
Did you know that talent refers to a measurement of Gold? So what you are really saying is that he still has quite a bit of Gold in his body as he hasnt had enough time to remove it from his body thereby making him dumber. Typically expelled through the urine or fecal matter. Did you know that certain cows expel actual gold out of their body through urine? People do the same thing and there are quite a few studies on exactly that. "Dont P1ss your life (life force) away." "Flushing your life down the toilet." Depending on how "talented" one is they may even get a gold medal.
7:20, another neat detail is that he was cruising at mach .86 before thrusting to supersonic. This is about the airspeed at which wave drag kicks in due to the airstream above your lift surfaces going supersonic.
I greatly enjoyed how they conveyed his joy of flying the Mark 2 suit.
The "shock and awe" tactic actually fits the Jericho well as when Tony introduces it he said he likes weapons that only need to be fired once.
Iron Man's armor has Inertial dampeners. This is one more piece of impossible technology that makes the suit work. That's why he can survive a collision with an airplane's wing. It's also why he can jet into the atmosphere w/o visible signs of stress from G forces. Like the arc reactor it's never fully explained.
Tony has to have a suit dimension in there. v^2 - v0^2 = 2 * a * S, simple as that.
No damper that could fit into the space in a suit could have damped the g forces from such collision and radical change of speed. So mathematically impossible technology indeed.
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I really appreciate how you went about this. A lot of channels would've been like "well the arc reactor couldn't possibly exist so bad movie"
Don't be like that. An arc reactor could excist... in future.
2:45 and that’s where the old adage “accuracy by volume” comes into play. Similar to something like Operation Typhoon, this rocket sends out dozens of baby rockets, and the sheer number means you’re hitting something!
4:05 working on blueprints for a real one, and am now editing for that
6:03 let’s see if I remember my warbird jargon: Radar Cross Section, RCS. How big it looks to a Radar. RADAR RAdio Detection And Ranging. Stealth aircraft: looks very small. Much smaller than it really is. You can do this by making it paper-thin, making it absorb or knock off whatever’s detecting it, not emitting easy to spot exhaust, and more. Lastly, UAV, Unmanned Armed/Ariel Vehicle. Drones, robots, droids, you name it, sci-fi has it. We have lower-end ones as well.
7:15: I forgot Bogey!
7:35 looked like a CIS…
8:17 what I heard was a gold-titanium mix for the suit, but I’m pretty sure he has that as a coating over tungsten carbide. Which is used in modern tank armor, capable of shrugging of attacks a plane couldn’t afford to take without being far to heavy to fly.
I’d say the Mk II is the best iron man suit it just screams Authentic design and science at its finest
Mk II is my favourite, it just feels right
Mk 7 is my fav personally
Design wise I disliked the move to nanotech.
Another section that deals with impact is when the flares deployed and the missile goes off right behind Stark and the blast catches and knocks him forward even more, while he wasn't at a stand still being launched by explosions in movies is probably one of the most common underestimations of inertia in movies. We can assume the suit protects against a lot of heat transfer, the quick pressure change and possibly even a little of the impact, but based on how he moved forward most likely he was close enough to the blast to experience the delta between his speed and the explosions speed in acceleration, which is likely enough to smash his brain against the inside of his skull or cause "shell shock" (we'll assume the suit also prevents whiplash since it can support his neck, good luck supporting the neurons in the brain)
6:55 Stealth that absorbs radar waves is early stealth from the F-117 on stealth is RAM radar absorbent material and a shale that will reflect the radar waves away from the direction that its expected to come from like the front 180. The SR-71 used RAM and a little of its shape to reduce its RCS. It also had the advantage of flying high and fast enough that a radar operator could believe its not a plane.
What I appreciate about your educated review/reaction was that you showed appreciation for the imagination rather than dismissing it.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. I try to be impartial as opposed to being overly critical
One thing not addressed in the physical mechanics of IM is the frailty of the organism in the suit.
Long story short, the human brain and internal organs would be slammed against the surrounding structures every time a rapid vector change occurs. The suit goes one way, and the squishy human inside gets demolished in the process.
It's marvel. All you have to do is introduce vibranium into the mix and all that logic goes out the window. :)
I totally agree that’s why a real suit would be impossible to make fly because the human body wasn’t designed to fly at such high speeds the fastest bird on earth wouldn’t be able to fly at its top speed and make a sharp turn it would kill itself hell even if it dived and hit terminal velocity and pulled out the dive and rapidly changed direction it’s brain would be mush
@@kanati that's a very good point, I had considered that as well. The only problem is vibranium is an vibration absorber, it still doesn't give inertial dampening qualities for rapid acceleration though
The repulsors (propulsion) works by taking in air, turning it into a plasma (free nuclei and electrons floating around), then taking the free electrons from the plasma and colliding them to form muons which are about 200 times heavier than electrons but also have a half-life (time to decay to half the number of particles) of a few microseconds, and shooting them out the ends by means of electromagnetic propulsion similar to an ion drive.
To make a man fly with a particle drive you would need an insane amount of energy to accelerate the particles to within a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the speed of light. Luckily he has like 3 large scale nuclear reactors' worth of energy strapped to his chest.
Explain how he can fly in space then
@@HaloDude557 onboard fuel tanks.
@@victorunbea8451 but you just said the repulsors need air
@@HaloDude557 to clarify. Onboard tanks for environments without air. A back-up if you will. When operating in air the repulsors those tanks stay full. It's the same reason he can breathe in space inside the suit.
There are special iterations of the suit with extended spaceflight capabilities.
@@victorunbea8451 the tanks would be tiny though and provide very limited acceleration.
I love Iron Man, I can't wait to watch this
No doubt, he's the best avenger.
@@AviationAustin Captain America is up there too. Iron Man is just so realistic. Just like Batman
Yeah cap is good and all. But there's almost no nuance to his character. I appreciate characters that have depth.
Thats what I was thinking , the F22 broke its wing like a tissue paper meaning the relative speed at the time of crash was high enough for even gold-titanium alloy to be damaged considering Tony was still inside of the suit so even light damage like bending etc. would have cause malfunction but tony was able to restart the thrusters in his suit 😕
+1, compared to thanos's blade effect upon the suit at the infinity wars, we saw how easy it is to break tony's suit. The question is which suit has the most strength.
I never had an issue with the impact... as his suit is made of "magic" .
My issue is with the F22 after the strike rolling in the wrong direction.
but that could just be computer failure and the roll being induced by the tailplane.
@@zbeast , yup . The computers onboard must've tried to correct its trajectory but failed due to missing an entire wing . The shocking part is almost everytime when the pilot ejects the plane explodes right the next second as if there's a health bar 😂 and pilots exit after health reaches 1% 🤣
That's because gold-titanium alloy is 4 times stronger than titanium.
@@Rascacio86 yes but at speed of qn impact it still should suffer light damage like bending
8:15 his suit is made of a titanium alloy three times as strong as steel
4:24 I really love the HUD details in Iron Man suits. Just look at the reflection in the eyes, how they managed to CGI it. It may be real, but still to hard to mimic this accurately.
You could also comment on the fact that despite generating zero lift, the suit can achieve level flight with all thrusters parallel to the ground. With no propulsion to counteract gravity, he would be in free fall
I love that you can suspend disbelief on the stuff that clearly nonsense and enjoy the detail in the rest of it. This engineer loves the iron man suit.
the boot thrusters use air, convert it to plasma and directed downwards to fly (at least that is what the comic book says it should do for the first few suit models) the hand repulsors are plain super science (they act like same polar magnets facing each other but it works for everything Tony feels like pushing away)
I wonder what would be Sheldon Cooper's facial reaction to realizing Tony Stark is a Engineer??
Sheldon Cooper is hopelessly naive about the world. I can't watch that show 🤦♂️
The arc reactor, at least at the start, is (I think) a cold fusion reactor. The palladium core is based of a theoretical idea that was tried for a while to use palladium to catalyze room temperature fusion. It didn't work of course, but I think thats what this is based off of.
The suit was a gold titanium alloy, which makes it stronger. Stark said that at the end, that his suit is a gold titanium alloy. So a piece of stronger titanium alloy, at high velocity, hitting a weaker titanium alloy, would make sense..
Imagine how strong a gold titanium sword might be. Very expensive to make, but might be worth it.
I never actually thought about the "propulsion" aspect of it. You're right, even if that arc reactor is a mini-nuclear power station that can generate enough energy for Ironman to use however he pleased, you can't propel yourself with energy alone - it's not like he can shoot energy out of his hands and feet and use them to fly.
But, since we are talking about a movie where arc reactor is a thing, why not mini jet engines all throughout his body - channels that suck in air and push it out of his feat and hands with such force that propulsion happens? It's not something that would cause light/fire like in the movies but is it really any crazier than the idea of an arc reactor?
There is a jet suit that does actually exist that uses jet engines. But it has limited range and capabilities. It also requires the user to wear the fuel on a giant pack on his back.
Well tbh technically there is already real way to create propulsion using electricity alone (ion-propulsor). But not at the scale of lifting 300+ pound human flesh+armor.
Just push satelite faster and faster in friction-less, empty void space.
Maybe in the far future we, as human will have built Ion-Propulsor capable of doing what is happening in the movie with Stark ;)
Only time will tell.
The only part that it truly doesn't make logical sense is when he build a suit in a cave. I rly doupt he would have the material to do it.
Correct. But to be fair the one he built in a cave looked like it was rocket powered which he could have easily gotten access to since he was supposed to be building a missile.
@@TwinShards thanks. I'm hooked on ion propulsion now
I am not sure about the aero dynamics of the Iron Man suit.
Assuming you can build thrusters, power source, navigation system, etc. into the suit to make it float in the air and move it around. But how would you be able to fly it the way Tony does?
There are MAIN thrusters at the back, under the feet, on the palms; I find it hard to image how he can fly Superman style (without arms extended to the front). How does the placement of the thrusters create enough lift if he were to fly Superman style?
I tend to believe a suit like that would allow the person to fly Green Goblin style (in an upright position) instead.
How do the thrusters work ? The look like tiny jet engines but the suit doesn't have any fuel to combust, I've always wondered how does a nuclear reactor produce thrust 😅
They could be ion thursters or a derivative. Although from what I understand about ion thrusters they produce very little thurst and are therefore only used in space.
@@ryanmarbut1035 yes exactly, and they only work in space because there's no drag (cause no atmosphere). But his suit as we see in the video, goes faster than sound 😅
The comics and movies refer to repulsor rays, apparently some sort of pressor beam, the reverse of a tractor beam. They just named the rays though, they don't explain how they work.
You could also pass air through a heat exchanger wich is pulling heat from the reacter, the rapidly standing air is passed out of the exhaust producing thrust, don't know how much heat that little reacter produces, you need alot to make it work
Expanding not standing
The most realistic part I've seen in the first Iron Man is Mark 1 or the suit he uses to get out of his imprisoned area. It actually makes perfect sense and is 100% possible to make in real life. There is no real unreal parts in the suit. It has flamethrowers on the ends of where Tony is able to grab onto, it has a jet pack installed in the boots a little around the torso I believe, and it has the most complex design. It's one of those designs that would be a nightmare to draw but when you are just making it out of scratch like Tony did, it makes perfect sense to be a little crazy looking. Either way I do find Mark 1 to be the only plausible suit to make besides the flying prototype that was just silver.
That F18 you showed was from my first squadron. When we first started the jet the pilot ran an”IBIT” which tests all the flight control surfaces, what you showed is what we called a “wipe out” to do a last minute check in the catapult before the shooters give the final thumbs up to launch. #VFA115 #EFR
That's awesome! I did not know it was called that. Fly Navy!
when i was in the navy they called it stirring the stick
The thing that always lost me from a reality aspect was when he would take a hit from something (direct hit from a tank round for example) and be complete unscathed. Regardless of whether the suit material withstood the blow, the human inside the shell would be completely destroyed. His organs, brain, ect would just be destroyed from the impact alone.
As someone that used to specialize in military munitions while in the military for almost a decade, the Jarico missile could be easily possible and smart. Look up cluster bombs that were used in desert storm to take out tanks and you can see how one could be updated to a missile today. CBU-105 is a start for you to look at.
A KSP'd mix of SMArt 155 or Bofors/Nexter Bonus with the submunitions being M982 Excalibur, with engines on them of course
I was thinking somthing like the tech used for a mirv but scaled down, main missle body selects targets, data upload to the small missles housed inside split off to independantly hit different targets, the guidance and targeting programs wouldnt be as hard, the hardest part would seem to be how they can produce so much explosive power, each one of the smaller missles looked like the sice of an average arm or leg but packed way more power then should have been possible, the shock wave was closer to the explosion in Berute (misspelled probably) then any conventional munition we currently possess
@@morgankuikka4940 they could be FAB's with added movie magic because movies like to add about 1000x more explosion to their explosions
@@MrTrilbe i was thinking about that as well, but those tend to have a delayed effect before the large explosion, i may need to rewatch the scene again, but it wouldnt be as effective for bunker busting or heavily fortified positions, although the cuncussive blasts are really nice. I just thought the explosions looked more like high powered conventional explosives.
On another note though cluster FAB is actually a scary thought if you can get enough spread on the indevidual warheads, ctr alt del grid square
@@morgankuikka4940 you have to account for movies not really being into realistic explosives and most moviegoers being knowledgeable about them, what matters is that it looks good on the screen
Thanks for the video, I appreciate your review. After watching it, I do have a couple questions from a layman's point a view.
1. You say the warheads that come out of the missile are not guided. But they come out in all different direction and orient themselves in a fairly uniform pattern. What could cause that if not for onboard guidance? Plus, they have propulsion which would seem to suggest some level of guidance.
2. Tony tests the control surfaces on his suit so we know they are there. But would they be effective considering the shape and position?
Lastly, I was also a bit disappointed in how the Iron Man suit came out unscathed after tearing off a wing from a military jet.
1. Stabilizing isn't necessarily mean guidance. They could have some sort of gyroscope that orients them without specifically guiding them to a target.
2. normally it wouldn't be too effective but because he flies on his belly and very fast any small control surface would/ thrust vectoring would be effective. Even if they're not in an optimal location.
Great questions!
A close look at the individual "warheads", they really look like just smaller missiles, complete with fins and propulsion and everything. Fins (when properly designed/placed) will stabilize a projectile quite passively, and propulsion in no way means a projectile is guided. And what constitutes "guided" is a bit of a fuzzy term anyway if we're being honest. If I recall correctly, the German V1 in WW2 was "guided" by a gyroscope and possibly a magnetic compass, and were easily knocked off course by carefully tipping the wing with your own aircraft. That said, quite likely this missile system is designed to establish a ballistic trajectory with a guided carrier rocket, and then split into the individual warheads to strike across a wide area for something like lethal area denial.
The suit is a alloy of titanium and gold wich is much more durable than just titanium
Small detail: When Tony is being chased, he looks to his left. At the speed they’re portraying in the movie, that minimal change would’ve at least destabilized him, which doesn’t happen. Still love the movie, it is really fun!
Good point!
I think if tony has good control algo's on that thing, it wouldn't destabilize since some thruster should kick in to counter-act. At most his head turning would act as an air brake.
I agree. It's just not always depicted on screen
The handle that the pilot is attempting to pull on the ejection seat is called an emergency manual chute handle. It is a backup in the event that the primary mortar cartridge does not deploy the parachute or if the restraint harnesses re not released from the seat to allow seat-man separation. Parachutes will also not deploy until the seat is below 15K feet and the seat has been reduced to a speed below 250 kts.
Thank you. I did not know that
Yeah, that was my biggest complaint too with those seats. The ACES II system is designed without the pilot in mind because they will most likely be unconscious flying at those speeds. If it's a low speed, low opening ejection, it won't be as bad, but still could be G LOC regardless. Having worked directly with Egress for several years on the F-15's at Kadena, I can also say that those helmets and masks are incorrect for the F-22. The mask would be a MBU-20/P and each helmet is actually designed specifically for each pilot using laser measurements. They also have a ton of HUD inside the visor of the helmets to give the pilots way more SA. Granted, they can't show all that since a lot of it is secret, but they could have done a slightly better job with it. Overall though an excellent movie! And a fantastic video!
Glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for that insight! Very cool
I'll address the basic law of inertia and "It ain't the fall that kills ya, it's the sudden stop at the end" thing. As for Vibranium absorbing the shock etc. Tony didn't have access to such material in that cave. Ergo, the first suit was made of actual steel and when he crashed into that sand dune at the very beginning of the movie, Tony is moth-windshield soup. The end. (and no, the "soft sand" ain't gonna help break his fall)
Every time I see that scene, I think the same thing. They should have made him land at a shallow angle more closely matching the slope of the dune and had him tumble across the sand. They should have also depicted a lengthy operation and extremely long recovery period to heal all of his fractured bones. They could have done it in a simple 4 or 5 minute scene. It would also be cool if they explained that he created some type of technology in his newer suits that would counteract inertia and protect him. Even if it was bullshit.
@@jeffparent3988 Yes exactly. He hit that sand dune at close to 90°/0° from at least 200 feet and an accelerated fall at that.
The arc reactor is some sort of hydrogen fusion reactor. For propulsion, you draw in air at normal speeds, heat it with the fusion reactor, then let it explode out.
This lines up with avengers. Tony's suit failed to work outside the atmosphere.
And he must have found a way for it to work without atmosphere because of the Mark 39, also known as Starboost or Gemini. And we can assume that the Mark 50-85 had that as well.
in avengers he was just running out of power
@@tejaspadhye well he also had no oxygen
@@tejaspadhye was he? Or power and propulsion?
Marvel doesn't get too deep into the details on their tech. Which is wise because it could be outdated very quickly.
@@nosuchthing8 if you remember while he was fighting the alien army ( i forgot the name) jarvis told him power at 7 percent, then proceeded to say running on reserve power. And he used all power to thruster to push missile into portal
When I was in the Air Force I was told all about the Egress job. They take care of the ejection seat systems. Sometimes those seats do fail. Rarely, but they do. I heard a lot of stories such as a guy was leaning over the seat when it ejected and he was slammed into the roof of the hanger and of course killed instantly. Another time I was told about a guy that somehow mishandled the rocket that is used in an ejection seat and it shot through him. Remember that 20 and 21 year old well trained, but still young people work on those Egress systems... along with older veterans of course.
Those don't sound like failures. Those sound like accidents
@@AviationAustin I suppose all failures are accidents of some kind.
@@AviationAustin that is to say all accidents are failures of some kind.
If Im remembering correctly. I think the Mark 2 suit (the silver one) was actually a real suit they made for the movie, not cgi. At least for the scene before he starts flying.
The science is pretty realistic. Ironman with 1-2cm armor getting hit by a tank and nothing happens is far from realistic engineering.
Good thing it’s a movie
-Only some flare countermeasures put out intense heat to ‘distract’ infrared misso led.
-Titanium is used very sparingly in aircraft structures because it’s incredibly heavy. Mainly used in high stress or high heat environments.
-ALL aircraft carry out flight control built-in tests or pre-flight tests before take off.
-Ejection seats are fitted with barometric sensors to deploy the parachute and release the seat at predetermined altitudes.
-Stealth aircraft not only absorb radar signals but can also deflect and scatter them away.
7:19 that's iron man's HUD, but the f22's. It might be very important to know the plane you're _fighting_ while you're _fighting_ it
Really it looked like a chase angle? I thought his HUD looked different.
Oh no looks like you're right. It is tony's HUD. I guess the transition was so quick I confused them. Good call. Makes more sense now. Still, no way the CEO of a major defense contractor can't identify a F-22. Lol you know that was still for our benefit.
@@AviationAustin yeah either that, or jarvis just brought it up for some reason. Either way it isn't that necessary
Edit: maybe it's protocol to bring up whatever they're engaged with, incase it had snuck up from behind or something
@@waxt0n that would also make sense.
The Jericho is basically a "dear grid coordinates" weapon... those little individual warheads exist solely to spread the hate over a wider area, as opposed to one massive warhead striking in exactly one spot. Accuracy by volume, as some might say
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You left out one my father mentioned (he was a career ECS engineer)... The ice that formed on the suit (major device in the final scenes of this movie BTW) wouldn't actually present at all. Beyond a certain altitude the isn't enough moisture in the atmosphere to contribute to such a problem, and the altitude required to reach said temperatures required to cause such a rapid freezing would prohibit the necessary moisture. Not only that but the speed and design necessary to facilitate the kind of flight responsible for such an occurrence would prohibit dragging moisture on the suit into that level of our atmosphere (in short, this would never happen as depicted).
PS: I think he also said something about the quoted altitude being a non-issue altitude as it pertains to facing any combination of these issues. (None of this even comes close to addressing the issue of air friction that would naturally leave the outside of the suit insanely hot even potentially hours after landing.)
So in short the whole ice phenomena depicted in the first movie makes no sense, the hit raptor wing actually makes more sense than that even (as vibranium was used in multiple Iron Man suits by Stark, not to mention that an incredible amount of shock absorbers would be required just to change direction or land in such a suit, let alone take a direct shot from a tank them fall out of the sky without dying... that's the sci-fi aspect at work). But why was a potentially non-issue addressed while such a very real issue was dismissed??? You be the judge. Peace. :)
+5 points for control surfaces, though the boundary layer effect probably makes them useless.
+10 points for reactive control jets
- 1,000,000 points for a reactionless drive powered by an "Arc Reactor".
They went from this to having wizards throwing music at each other
Engineering wise, I would give this movie a C, on the fact alone that Tony would be mush inside the suit, pretty much from the first trials, let alone the rest of the movie mistakes.
Yeah I can agree. Especially in his lab he face-planted on the initial FT. That would’ve been very painful.
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So in reference to getting hit by a plane wing and leaving unscathed, not only is his suit made of gold-titanium alloy so it’s much stronger than titanium, you’re also forgetting to take into account his plot armor being the main character which also makes his suit far stronger than even the gold he alloyed the titanium with😂
i thought you were going to give some material engineering answer. 😅 I certainly overlooked the plot armor strength. Silly me
Ejection seats have changed a lot. Smart seats, like in newer fighters do not necessarily create GLOC. The way they operate becomes situation dependent. The automatic deployment can fail, and the seats do have a manual override built in which usually separates the pilot from the seat. Only once separated from the seat will the chute deploy.
I did not know that. Thank you!
@@AviationAustin No worries. But just to geek a little more... I'm sure you know that the higher up you go, the less oxygen there is. So, the reason for staying attached to the seat is that if you are too high, you will fall with the seat to a lower level where you can breathe unassisted. Only then will the seat release you and the parachute will deploy. If you ejected high enough and the chute deployed immediately you run the very real risk of dying due to lack of oxygen. (The seat has it's own oxygen supply routed to the pilot's mask to help them until there is enough oxygen in the air).
Have you watched/planning to do a reaction/assessment of their design, any of the Gravity Industries videos? The real human flight suit, it's pretty awesome how fast people are pushing the limits of aero tech these days. Only caught your vid cause I was doing research for one of my own. Good job. Could I pick your brain for some specifics on the original Iron Man Movie?
No I wasn't planning on that. It is certainly interesting.
But sure, what do you want to discuss?
@@AviationAustin ok so I'm an animator setting up a dog fight, one faction is fast with poor maneuvering and long-range weapons, the other slower with great maneuvering and effective but medium/close range guns. I'll be honest, I don't understand flaps and how they help adjust flight, but I don't want to get it wrong either, that would be terrible. It's sci-fi but I still want it to be grounded in reality. Do you think you can help me?
I made a whole video on how aircraft use their control surfaces. This should help you understand how they all work. ruclips.net/video/SLU4mciRGTs/видео.html
Prior service military and aviation nerd here.
I have a few nitpicks.
The Jericho is pretty much a small MLRS or Multi-Launch Rocket System that dispenses some sort of submunitions which seem extremely energetic for the size, The larger 227mm rockets in use by the US don't even come close to massive fireballs everywhere.
I agree I love the additions of reaction control nozzles and flight surfaces on the suit but would be extremely difficult to implement on a human shaped suit.
The F-22's can lock on AIM-9X's on a target with no obvious (jet exhaust) heat source, AIM-9's are 'heat seekers', So it would rely on air friction and whatever little heat comes off of his 'engines', Its like shooting down a sidewinder with a sidewinder, pretty tough.
Obviously he wouldn't survive the impact from the wing, The G-forces alone would turn Tony into pink mist.
The M61A2 Vulcan on the F-22 does not sound like a machine gun but rather a brrrrrt.
The Arc Reactor is a McGuffin.
At 7:19, the shockwave is produced continuously at supersonic speed, not just at the sound barrier. Isn't it?
Correct! Watch my supersonic flight video if you're interested in why that happens.
Dude, some wine and a blunt paired with your content is chill. Reminds me of when I started getting in to this kinda stuff, fuuuuunnnn.
My issue with the Iron Man suit is the G force and the effect it would have on Tony's blood. Pilots have to wear a G suit that compresses their legs and abdomen to keep blood in their brain. Otherwise, the G force can push all of their blood toward their feet and they lose consciousness while flying. And that's the case when they're sitting upright in a pilot seat!
Iron Man flies head-first -- not in a sitting position. Any high speed flight in that suit (especially going supersonic) would ensure Tony would lose consciousness almost immediately. Tony would suffer severe brain damage from mere minutes of flight.
I mean, with all that high tech stuff in there, do you think that suit doesn't have that feature? Just because it's not being discussed in the movie?
@@xbxb That's my point. It's a significant engineering problem with no viable solution. How Tony deals with this issue is never addressed. You have to assume he found a solution "somehow."
@@Tanoro did you notice Tony wears a specially made form-fitting suit under the iron man suits?
Maybe something inside the suit massages his body in a way to help with his circulation and counteract some of the g force
That's called a g-suit. It is possible. But he's pulling an insane gs that wouldn't make much of a difference
0:17 Despite what some of the internet will tell you, this is not Iron man. This is from a TV movie called 'Exo man' from 1977. It has no relation to Marvel or Iron man.
Awesome video! Kept me interested the entire video.
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Arms and legs needs to stay rigid for successful flight. For balance and fancy maneuvering don’t you need to consider center of gravity of suit
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LOL, ok. “The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.” Tesla
I'd like to know what kind of magical sidewinder that was to create an explosion that large, that looked like way more than 9kg warhead.
You're not wrong 🤣
They subcontracted the "M.B. Armes" company, that's why it didn't leave a scratch.
The fundamental science of Ironman is that he died as soon as he hard landed one time.
At least the suit contained the goo that his body liquified into as soon as all the g forces tore his body to pieces inside of it.
The scene where Ironman is flying along at 400 miles per hour ,the tank shell hits his suit and he barrels into the ground at 500 or so miles per hour is hilarious.
First off,hell of a shot, tank crew.
Secondly,from initial explosion,Ironman is a spam sandwich inside that suit.
But it's a comic book story.
Have some fun,take it for what it is and enjoy the skill that was obviously used to tell the story to you.
No dip
His suit is made out of gold-titanium alloy. In July 2016, researchers have discovered that a titanium-gold alloy is up to 4 times harder than titanium.
β-Ti3Au (strictly speaking, an intermetallic)
I am no engineer, but please someone explain to me how it's possible to be alive in that thin armor after being hit by the wing of a thirty ton fighter flying at MACH 1.
@Al Valle "Iron Man do a "Darth Maul" right outta the sky ". Brother, you made me laugh and I needed it. Thank you.
Yeah also, the F-22 is made of a titanium composite. He'd be dead 100% 😂
Pretty much everything Iron Man does violates physics. Some of his maneuvers would instantly scramble his inner organs. He would need some type of inertia cancelling technology to survive much of what he does. Add in being hit with munitions capable of taking out aircraft and ground targets, and there is no way a layer of armor would negate the kinetic force hitting the suit without transferring in through the occupant.
Its funny how comics always show people flying, like Superman and Iron man with face forward. But thats just looking "up" from anatomically stand point. So I imagine Tony changing his positions every few minutes coz of neck pains. Like a air swimmer.
I think they fly at an angle up and down but that can't really be translated in a comic book. You don't have to look up say if you're flying upwards at a 45 degree angle.
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Technically anything can fly no matter how much drag it has, so long as you have adequate thrust.. controlling that thrust can be a major problem though, which is why they show the suit as having a ton of little control surfaces that are constantly changing to try to help create some lift, though overall a human shape is not conducive to flight and doesn't create any lift. If you get the chance, watch a F22's flap checks where not only do they do the mains but also the smaller control surfaces that are mostly computer controlled. That plane is amazing in just how many minute changes it's making the entire time it's flying that the pilot doesn't have to think about... well so long as it works. There's many planes in the US's arsenal that couldn't fly without AI these days, it's why the B2 was the first functional flying wing design.. Others had tried it in the past but controlling those is too hard for a pilot to do, it was only with the advent of computers/AI that they finally became operational. The F22, F35, F117 and others all couldn't have flown without the help of computers.. Honestly it's pretty amazing that the SR71 flew without AI helping it.
That suite isn’t much aerodynamic. Drag would be insane over mach 1. Surface temp would skyrocket at mach 3 or higher. I don’t know how he survives in that. Then again, this is fiction.
He has to have an incredible life support system for that reason as well.
Let's just imagine the suite is out of this world from another galaxy besides the Milky Way. What do you think?
it is great to listen to someone who actually KNOWS about science! thx
Can those 4 thrusters actually lift up an iron man suit? The suit must be pretty heavy judging it broke trough the floor like it was nothing. I understand that it is some type of exoskeleton, so moving with something this heavy can be easy, but flying? Also can you have good enough cooling system to not burn your hand and feet this way?
Those are great points. He must have enough thrust (at least in the movie's universe) since he can go supersonic.
While mcu does try to keep things as scientifically accurate, they gotta bend the rules sometimes as well, coz if they went with complete accuracy this stuff wouldn't work, so they try to keep as much accuracy as possible but don't aim for complete accuracy coz they know it's not viable, like the arc reactor, it generates enough energy to power a rather strong electromagnet and a really advanced suit, but produces like no heat?
It's just a movie come on man, if that was perfectly accurate then you would be seeing some iron men flying right up the sky
@@MH-fs3lf but the point of this video is if its possible. I didnt say the movie is bad because it is not scientificaly accurate. I just wanted to know his thought on it. Come on man...
What these movies do is break a few laws that inspire people to figure out how it could actually work. They are saying we can do all of this except for these few issues left to work out. Any ideas?!
To quote the copy of Jane's Airplanes I had as a kid "The F4 Phantom proved that if you just give it enough thrust, you can make a brick fly"
7:19 it's Tony's HUD display not F-22's display watch carefully 🙂😅
Good catch i was mistaken
@@AviationAustin Your brain is very sharp good catch🙂
You're a true Ironman fan
I have been in aerospace for over 20 years including my military time. I try not to been too “geeky” with movies with aerospace in it. But it's nice to see movies that allow me not to freak out in my head about “what are they doing” with the stuff they are showing. We all dream of the day that iron man suits will be the reality for getting into work in the morning 😂😂
I have to disagree with you on The Incredible Hulk It ran for 5 seasons and was not campy. It was very well done and acted
As u slightly mentioned, propulsion in the iron man suit is not explained. Beyond power required (ARC reactor) is a need for propellant. something to push through the jets to get things moving. In this case the only possible source is air its4elf. the suit has to suck in air, transport it throughout the suit and presses it to the point it can use a turbine to provide directional thrust.
All this sounds good except for a few issues.
1) Quantity of air - HUGE! the amount of air needed is enormous, and since it is traveling through some really small and narrow tubes at well beyond Speed of Sound, with plenty of bends in it. the sheer noise and vibration would deafen anyone within 60 feet. As it vibrated the suit into its component atoms, lol.
2) Air intakes - No matter how u disguise them or how small u make them there is a minimum amount of air that has to physically get into the suit - each and every second. In short he is never going to be able to wear a cape. and any women standing next to him when he takes off better have brought spare dress and underwear.
Love listening to you geek out about the same details I love about Iron Man 👍
The suit would be huge on radar compared to any stealth aircraft though !
Especially since he made attempt to make it low observable.
The arc reactor was originally based on an experiment done with large vacuum tubes, concentrating a huge amount of electrons between parabolic dishes with a resonant alternating current frequency. Apparently it started shaking the whole building before they shut it down.
The repulsors that Iron Man uses for flight were based off an effect when like poles of a magnet are fixed at an angle to each other. It was deemed impractical material strengths and the high current needed to get enough force to move something. It may have had better results with pulsed or alternating current at certain frequencies, but it wasn't pursued other than as the background for comics.
Thank you explaining what a smart bomb is. Ironically, Ironman’s “Smart Bomb” move in the game series are literally just grenades that fall out of his armor. Not very smart 😐
Sounds like they're pretty dumb, dumb bombs. Haha
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At 7:18, i think that is Tony's HUD and its giving him the information about the jets tailing him. This is also supported by the pilots HUDs being green in the next scene.
When Gravity Industries created their jet suit they originally had thrusters on the legs and arms just like Iron Man but it kept flipping the pilot over on his rear end.
So instead they settled for the arms being the main thrusters and the legs had to dangle below.
When they started filming Iron Man they put Robert Downey Junior in a harness to film him flying around and found something similar with the harness.
The arms had to support most of the weight while the legs simply hung below other wise he kept flipping over.