Underrated Tanks YOU Should Try!
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- Underrated Tanks in War Thunder
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0:00 Intro
0:31 1.
2:24 2. (ft. TurnyPlays)
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5:49 4. (ft. nricolas360)
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thanks ryan berry:)
So if I understand, Ryan is about thunder right?
I was confused at the beginning, as I instantly recognized your voice, Ryan. I didn't know you had another channel
No, it’s complicated
the SU-122-54 especially now given the mid tier decompression is a sneak powerhouse with very decent reload on the 122, cold war shells, trolly armor, 2 14.5 MGs and a decent rangefinder
You mean the ZSU-14.5 huh? (jk)
no im talking about the casemate T-54 tank destroyer
in my experience, I can pen through that things armor fairly easily & I also usually get penned easily in that thing, 122mm is too fat for the br & reloads slow but it is pretty cool looking & the 14.5 saves me more times than I expected.
@@CatWithAOpinionjust don't use it at cqb xd
The Beigleitpanzer definitely isn't underrated by any stretch of the imagination. At its BR bracket, you will see it often, sometimes they don't even leave the spawn and just wait for enemy air to swat out of the sky. There are definitely more underrated vehicles, the Beigleitpanzer isn't one of them. Most of the vehicles mentioned in this video are anything but underrated. The Object 685 is the only one which I barely ever see.
To be honest I see it the most when playing 7.7 (GBR) when( like every other game it feels like) I get uptiered 685 is quite common
Might just be me tho
agree bagel-57 isnt that underrated, or isnt underrated at all.
practically none of the tanks mentioned are underrated because i see them very often at each of their BRs
I beg to differ were Beigleitpanzer is underrated, on that BR has that tank played on matches frequently
Its one of the best tanks BR for BR, and its extremely common
man
Begleit and Door stop ain't underrated
you see them be played really often
Finally new AboutThunder video
Wooo
Yeah it’s been 2 months lol
The arl 44 is an absolute monster because you can upper front plate panthers at like 2 km and it is very hard to pen the turret if it's constantly moving while also being very good at angling
The turret is like 60mm on the front dude shut up its not hard to pen. The UFP can sometimes bounce shells though
@l.bakker7563 The turret is like 110mm on the front dude shut up its hard to pen
@@l.bakker7563 "it is very hard to pen the turret if it's constantly moving" he said, wich is true ; the mantlet and very long barrel makes it very prone to volumetric magic. I managed to bounce panther shots at point blank multiple times by simply wiggling the turret
@@l.bakker7563the sides are 60mm, the turret is 110mm
Angled the turret is about as easy to pen as a panther side. The side turret is about 30-40mm. Still a really fun tank to use though
Japan's hidden gem, The ST-A 3.
90mm 320mm pen HEAT-FS, various ammo choices, auto-loader, optical range finder, M2 .50 cal, great optic sight for close and medium range, good mobility, good BR.
Excellent medium tank.
I highly recommend the AMX 50 surbaissé.
This thing with the new br changes is such a monster. Rare are the battles above 8.0, common are the down tiers down to 6.7, and common are the Nukes I get with it.
Also the lineup is exceptional with the surbaissé, the Lorraine 40t, the amx13-90, the barougan, the f84g, the first heli just but also, the amx50 toa 100, the char 25t, and other lower br tanks. This lineup is literally the equivalent of Russian top tier, as you can keep spawning tanks and planes like candies.
The only downside to this lineup is the lack of anti air and the oscillating turret vehicles being pretty much useless at killing anything flying.
the best line up for 7.7 france is: Surbaissé, Lorraine, Char25, Foch, Auf1 (if you have it spaded), aml-90 (i dont really like the amx-13-90) and amx-50 toa 100, if you want the ebr (the tech tree one) is good to, fast, mobile and has a decent gun for flanking (i literally got a nuke with only the ebr lol)
Vickers Mk.7, decent reload (but only 3 rnd 1st stage ammo storage) fast, decently armored, good rounds. It's such a shame that I've never seen anyone really talk about it or make videos on it anymore
For me, the sk105a2 is perfect sniper. 4 sec reload, gen3 thermals, decent pen (346 for 0 degree and 200 for angled plates)and 12 ready rack can get you some multi kills. I haven't played the type 10s but i can tell you it feels much better than it.
Personally, I get a kick out of eviscerating bmps in the type 87 rcv. Insane mobility, good gun, great gun/gun handling makes for a blast
The ikv 103 is pretty underrated. It has 105 HEAT-FS that can pierce 400mm OF ARMOR AT 4.0. It's also fast and small, which is good for sniping or ambushing. It's still good even in an uptier. The downside is, its armor is pretty weak. And because your shell is HEAT, you're gonna face a problem when your target is behind a fence. And, you don't have MG to clear the fence
Edit: I think they nerfed its speed in Sons of atilla.
The armour being shite is quite good thing
If it was any good / or volumetric hell it would be incredibly busted
Not to mention it has incredible mobility for it being a TD at 4.0
Sea harrier frs1 is so underrated though the mid flight performance is bad it has 4 9ls and 5 1000lb bombs it can carry aswell as them it can great acceleration and good top speed
tbh, I love the BTR-80A, I'll even pull it up to 10.3 and still almost always get at least a couple kills each match with it at that BR.
Same
The most underrated vehicle for me is the Strv 42 eh. It has decent amour for its br it is very quick and has a good gun and has a good lineup you can take with it.
The only tanks here that are underrated are the STRV 103 and the ARL 44 imo. The others are well known and used heavily in my experience, very common to see a whole team of BTR 80s, beagles or 685s. The 103s and ARL 44 are often called bad by most people, the other 3 aint.
In my view 1 of the most underrated tanks in WT is the Ratel 90 or 20, most people go "ew ratel" but they are really good vehicles these days.
I've never seen an entire team of 685s. Seeing even 2 or 3 of them per match would be a rare sight.
I do agree though, the Ratel 90 is nice imo
I personally hate the Beigleitpanzer. It easily makes it into my top 10 most hated vehicles in this game. I see it a lot at its BR, and it has been a menace every time.
Dude I see the belgait in almost every game
the Begleitpanzer gets played alot. heck the last month on thunderskill its been one of the top performing german vehicles even above the puma.
I think what might be making it slightly less common is the puma (10) is blocking that line for a 9.3 tank. the mixed playstyle that requires that people might now how to play the game to get a handle on being a weird multirole tank (IFV, SPAA, and ATGM sniper) that doesn't do anything amazing.
It can be an IFV but loses to its fellow IFVs as it has a single TOW/ITOW vs Bradley M3A3 that gets TOW2 and 2 of them (or if lucky a downtier vs a M3 bradley that still is comparable with 2 TOW ) , BMP-3 gets a beam riding with better range and pen as well as the BMP-2M that gets 4 beam riding more range and pen. GB doesn't have a same BR equivalent. Japan has the TYPE 89, Haven't played it but the Type 79 ATGM seems good and I heard its a good little scout/sniper. Italy has the triple threat of the Dardo, VCC-80/30, and Freccia, double TOW2s and the later 2 SPIKEs. Sweden has a couple of 9040s (the 9030 seems bad at 9.3 and probably the worst IFV though you can be funny if you get a good flank) in the same BR but they have pretty good darts and the BILL trades the better darts for a really good ATGM and only slightly hampered by its clip size. It is just a better Begleitpanzer imo.
SPAA wise its decent. you're not really going to be sniping planes much but the 57 carries 765g of explosives at decent velocities that shreds low planes and helicopters. I think it might be easier with the CV9040s but haven't played them too much and the other IFVs don't compete with that explosive load and ROF.
ATGM sniping is pretty decent. you don't get to fire as quick or as easily as your counterparts but the layout means you can hull down and try to cover or lose your commander and survive for a while. The ITOW is usable but not as great as TOW2s and other ATGMs in your bracket range.
the 9.3br also doesn't help it much tbh. you get your BR but typically half teams or you get full teams but uptiered. I think i got 3-4 downtiers out of the 140 games I've played with it in the last 2 weeks. it's not terrible and I think its BR range isn't bad even if its a little too high (i would say 9 would be good for it but that also doesn't exist and 8.7 might be a little too low)
While researching and writing this I learned how the PUMA really deserves its SPIKEs even if it makes it a different variant that is 11. at 10 BR its mediocre as a gun only IFV. but i heard it caused havoc in the past when it was lower
My favorite tank in the entirety of War Thunder has to be the VBC (PT2) in the Italian tech tree. Fully stabilized 90mm pen APFSDS slinging speed demon with thermals and great sights. It is also oddly survivable because of Centauro syndrome, the UFP tends to bounce a lot of shots, and the tiny turret does not spall, usually only taking out 1 of the 3 crew members. This thing is so rare because almost nobody plays the Italian tech tree. I deeply recommend it, it has some great low tier lineups, and amazing high-tier lineups, it is only a bit sparse in the middle tiers. Aircraft in it are wonderful for Air RB, but there are not a lot of CAS options.
Underrated: ISU-122S a 5.7 monster TD.
Also Sturm S very underrated along the Krizantema.
Sturm S is very fun to play as an AA
I just got the amx 13. Got on a 7.7 br match (it is a 6.7 br) and got 4 kills, died to cas at the last second and took a beating, even surviving a german heat launcher. Really fun and has an autoloader.
For me the most underrated tank is striker it sooo much fun in it i had a lot of funny moments in it but i dont see it often being usee by others
Sad not seeing the SU-100P here, that thing is amazing
dude called whole war thunder community for a video huge respect
I DIDN'T KNOW RYAN HAD A SECOND CHANNEL :O
breda 501 is underrated asf
would love to see a collab stream with all these ytubers
The class 3 is insanely underrated, its the only vehicle that ive gotten a nuke in multiple times and is my favorite tank in the whole game due to how powerful it is in an upteir or rather bringing it to top tier because the crew is so far apart its nearly impossible to one shot and apfsds usually goes right through it because it has no armor yet it has amazing movement and a good round
Jpz 4-5
I loved this thing from the first time I saw it. Stock grind is AAAAAAA but once it's spared this thing is amazing. Especially for its br.
Pros
-good depression
-good heatfs which has enough velocity for it to be shot over ledges without exposing yourself too much
-INCREDIBLE mobility
-short, therefore easy to conceal
-pretty good reload
Cons
-no armour
-no turret, casemate tank
-incredibly painful stock grind
-not good for urban combat
Definetely the T-60 and the ZIS-43. The T-60 is weirdly survivable, and the ZIS-43 is an AA with decent mobility, a 34 autocannon with APHE, is on 2.7 and is a 3rd era tank, meaning it can do battle passes.
merkava 3- every one goes for its big brother, but 11.0 is quite balanced and nice+ you see turms and have m322(m900)
I'm at the 9.7 in German Ground and the BagelPanzer is very solid. Sure it has to armor but you can sure as hell give out damage.
My choice is the japanese Ho-I.
It is esentially a Chi-Nu at 2.0, so it's armor can work sometimes.
The gun is very intersting.
It has an APHE with 460g of TNT in it, this means it will always 1shot even a Char 2c. The pen is only 43mm, but at 2.0 it is enough for the most part.
If it isn't enough, it has a 90mm pen HEAT too.
And lastly, it has a HE with 12mm of pen. This means you can overpressure any Panzer III or IV if you shoot at the turret roof.
On top of that, it is fast, and has 15 degrees of gundep.
Basically a monster tank.
Ho Ri Production is also very good and paired with the M47 and SUB-II-I for a nice 7.3 lineup.
1100hp and getting to its top speed of 25mph easily plus the mobility while traversing is nice, and a 8.6sec aced reload for its 105mm
T-72A personally i think its underrated plus its my fav tank ingame and irl as a matter a fact when i was 7 i got to take a pic while inside M-84 Tank :D
Now that it isn’t an end of the tech tree vehicle, the 685 is a decent vehicle
im so ass with the BTR lmao everytime i play it and flank i either run into heavily armored tanks or autocannon tanks
I dont find the BTR-80 and the Begleitpanzer underrated, they are commonly used in their BRs
asides, the BTR is a fairly new addition
If you want to some underrated tanks that would be for example
the Chi-Ri II, the 75/34 M43 Semovente, the Su-122-54
For example, for the Chi-Ri II, being a japanese tank, is already underrated for being in japan and are rare to come by, the Chi-Ri is an oversized tank inspired by the Tiger I and with a 75mm whose shell doesnt like angles, it has a good performance and a loader asistant that can make you shoot in 3-4 seconds in the first 3 shots. The armour is 75mm which is not great at that BR and is flat
Mobility is average, a bit better than the rest of the japanese tree and you have a 37mm in the hull for baiting and such. The size makes hiding not as viable but it follows the example of the ARL-44 mentioned, is big, not the greatest armour but the gun is great and the RoF is awesome
Then for the 75/34 M43 semovente. I will mention 2 of them, this one, it has the short 75mm but with spaced armour that goes up to a 100mm in 3.3, Which is a lot tbh. everything is pretty average, low profile, great azimuth for the guns and you get same gun of the P40. Now as the second semovente mention is the large cannon one, the 75/46 M43 which is a direct evolution, you get the same hull with a high perfomance gun but what makes this tank so overlooked is the BR, 4.7 which you dont take adventage of the armour anymore and the gun isnt the best but still kicks
Look at it as an over BR stug III G
and the Su-122-54i s a potential flanker due to its mobility with very decent reload on the 122, good shells, armour able to stop rounds at that BR which is very trolly, has a range finder and x2 14.5mm one coaxial and other anti-air mount, as well as low profile. I also want to mention the armour is 100mm angled, which is esentially like shooting at a T-54 frontal plate at 6.7, the frontal plate of the T-54 is already strong at 7.7 so thats that
the char 25t, amx m4, mars 15, mephisto, amx-30dca, amx-13dca, amx-50 (the normal one, the surbaissé is pretty comon), amx-13HOT, santal (basically type 93 but with better missiles), amx-10rc, 2c, etc (basically french tanks in general)
I wish that the M60A3 TTS was played more in ground rb
By far the most underrated vehicle has to be the Ratel 90. It’s fast so can get into position quickly. It’s stable (unlike the Eland) so you can stop and shoot quickly or even shoot on the move sometimes. It’s at 6.0 so you’ll be facing tigers and panthers all the time which are so easy to 1-shot by ammo-racking. It’s got a relatively small turret and good depression so you can play hull down effectively. It’s pretty much the perfect tank. The only real downside is the armour but that drawback and be negated with cleaver angling to bait a bad shot into the rear end. Tbh if you’re getting hit, you’ve already done something wrong.
I would probably have to respectfully disagree - it's at 6.0 with a gun found on a 7.0 light for a reason and it isn't a good one. The gun being 'stable' is at least from my experience a joke, and for a light tank its gun handling is downright abysmal with a lacking turret speed and horrible acceleration. 14HP/ton really isn't great and it somehow feels even worse for the Ratels, probably because they're supposed to fill the role of a light tank ingame but struggle far too much compared to its competition. The gun works but even on the AML/Eland it's considered lacking with subpar spall and against more spacious WWII tanks it just doesn't fare as well as it would in theory, and if I wanted something consistent I would frankly just take out the Centurion Mk.2 or something.
I also think the Ratel is good and I am reasonably successful with the 90mm. However I think the reason why it isn’t liked so much by others is because you have to play more passive than other light tanks.
@jacobphotonstein3578 I by no means imply the gun isn't usable by the way, it's still an ok gun but isn't *as* successful as some of its other 90-105mm contemporaries are which can be considered a negative.
My problem with it is that for a light tank it really struggles to be a light tank in the same vein the PT-76B struggles to fill that role - it's far too slow in acceleration and general speed to fulfill what it's meant to do and the turret slew speed etc also aren't good enough to compensate for said downsides either - so I just never saw the point of it over other vehicles around the same BR for Britain unless I absolutely had to.
Edit: The 76B also has a stabilizer, which the Ratel 90 also lacks, and with that slew rate it is frankly not in the "stable handling" category
@@stellasolaris I think fundamentally you’re approaching it wrong. A tiger II and a tortoise are both 6.7 heavy tanks but if you try to play one like the other you’ll have a bad time. Concerning the mobility, is wheeled so you should be sticking to roads when possible but even off them you’ll still be faster that any heavy and definitely fast enough to get into a good position. Regarding the turret traverse, I’ve never thought once that its slow. If your in a situation where you have to look very quickly from one direction to the other, then you’re most likely out of position. As for the gun, it’s obviously no point and click APHE but it will pen literally anything at a br where armour is king and people think they’re invincible. You’ll be fighting Germany almost every game so all you have to do is either shoot the sides where the ammo is if you’re in cover or shoot the breech if you aren’t. Since it’s HEAT-FS, if you hit the ammo it will 1-shot consistently. You may find Russian tanks a bit harder they’re so packed inside that you can often 1-shot just be taking out enough crew.
@@stellasolaris if you’re comparing to the eland directly, then the main difference is the eland is hopelessly unstable and wobbles all over the place so you really have to be dead still before you can even think about shooting. The eland is also much less survivable since almost the entire tank is just crew. Occasionally you’ll get a lucky shot into the gun or wheel but that’s it. It’s also very underpowered being unable to climb many hills anything else could climb. Before the ratel was added I generally considered replacing the eland with the Daimler in my lineup. Now the ratel is here it’s just obsolete. I also can’t stress enough how uptierable the ratel is thanks to the gun. So long as you don’t play it mindlessly, it’ll work all the way up to the first rooikat when you get a proper stabiliser on a light tank. Trust me mate, I’ve played over 400 games in it and got more kills than with any other tank. It’s one of the best tanks br for br in the game.
Idk how y’all can carry a full load of HE-VT in the beglieght cause I used to do that before the turret rotation buff and now I can only carry 10
"underrated tanks" - Lists tanks that I see or use myself in almost every match.
The aubl/74 is a great apc
I like to swat the helis at their spawn with the begleitpz 😂, just don't let them take off
my first successful nuke was with begleit, it is indeed a good vehicle but u need skill to master it
Ah yes, the famously underrated vehicle the btr.
Beigleitpanzer an underrated tank? lololol my guy is out of touch
What do you mean those are underrated, I see them like every second match, like that op door stop from sweeden called Stvr103, so annoying to kill I legit see it almost every game at 8.7br I'm grinding right now.
Btr-80A just got released, how can it be already underrated? And I see the ARL in every match I play at his br range....
The arl sucks for me cos the turret is lol pen and everyone knows how to aim for it anyway. Good sniper tho
Su-100P. Quick reloading BR-412D on a very mobile platform, what else can you ask for? If you can get over the slow and limited gun handing that is.
reason i dont like the begleit that much anymore is because they took the APHE from us. it was so much fun
What World is the Begleit underrated?
I see them in masses every match
The Cromwell 5 is pretty good
I would throw away Begleit and replace it with Surbaissé. Fast reload, rangefinder and very good bullet. I personally love STRV very much. With a good position and tactics, he can easly defeat the enemy
ARL 44 is really underrated buuuut the 3,7 ACL-1 version not this one. You will see how ridiculous it can be if you go to a downtier or 4,0
The Beigleitpanzer is very common....what is Justin talking about?
Every good French main plays the ARL 44 at 5.3-5.7.
The Btr 80 is just a full auto Bt5
Bro really said the bagel was underrated.
No, it's not.
People being bad doesn't make something underrated.
The tank is godtier for it's br
Personally I don't think any of these are underrated besides the first. The other 4 are ehhh, especially the BTR-80A and Strv 103s. I see those a lot
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Broh le franco la bwahah
I see the ARL spamed in every game
BMP-2 it' not underrated but it's so op I easily do atleast 5 kills on this death truck
I am not inspired by the video, because these are already my favorite vehicles. I recommend everyone to try them, good choice of vehicles
zut-37 gang, it’s fun to delete turms with it
the strv103 isnt underrated at all, its being spammed around its BR range and is completely overpowered.
We still don’t know the true about thunder voice because of the voiceover highers
Took your time 😜
mfw half of these are not underrated at all and are a pretty popular choice
Honestly I love the Swedish S tanks but man is hull aim just the worst, if Gaijin could fix it I would play Sweden more, but until then I can't play one of my favourite tanks
The bagel panzer is not underrated that’s just a lie
4:58 Beigleitpanzer underrated? Someone has wrong understanding of the word
Yea sure lemme just drop a few hundred hours into multiple nations
Also who the hell says tanks and other vehicles, also the bagelpanzer isn't exactly underrated, it's an ok multirole pick
ACHILLES!!!!!?
Is this ryanberry
is this ryanberry?
all of these tanks i see commonly so idk whats underrated about them and if i had them(685 mainly) i would play them a lot
Begleitpanzer underrated? Lol
685 is absolute garbo. its an ok vehicle but its overtiered heavily. This thing is apparently on the level of a bmp 2 and 3 which is wrong
Overtired? Have you seen it’s stats? You’d have to be a German main to do poorly with that much pen, reload and mobility.
SmellyBudu
Is justin on amphetamines??????? I have no words
I love the BTR 80 A it's such a fun vehicle
Did Ryan get lost? Should someone go n Pick him up?
T14 heavy tank is underrated but very good
ThE beGliTE iS uNdeRPlayEd. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BMP-2 is very underrated, its missile isn't the greatest but the 30mm still rips.
object 685 gang
6:35 absolute stalinum moment. caught in 4k.
Non of them are underrated
The BTR-80 is underrated? These wheeled russian rats get on my nerves every time I play higher tiers. It's EVERYWHERE.
Every time I hear their distinct autocannons I shudder and hope to get a jump on it.
My personal picks are the M24 and M4A1 76, both are stupidly undertiered, overpowered monsters
Come on. The M24 is so overrated. People are always go on about it being the best thing since sliced bread. Don’t think I’ve ever heard anything said against it.
@@thisisaduck Because its just a flat out better 75 sherman imho, and the sherman itself is already great
@@AveragePootis only better if u value speed over survivability. Even in a downtown with the m24, if you’re seen and shot first, you’re dead. The lower br Sherman’s can somewhat use their armour.
@@thisisaduck Considering that the most common foe it will face is something with the long 75, it dosent really matter. Also the chaffee fairs way better against aircraft and in higher tiers, where flanking becomes necessary.
Is it really content if it’s not your own original input 🙄
The beagle panzer thing is wayyyyy to op and no one plays it which is why I’m glad no one plays it
Btr is absolute garbage, if you enjoy shooting full auto doing nothing and driving like maus on wheels well enjoy it then
outside of begel, all of those tanks are NOT underrated, they ARE TRASH... are you trying to change the stats of those tanks by pushing it to newbies that know no better so those tanks get lower winrate and thus lower BR (because of the influx of newbies from this video playing them) so you can abuse those tanks in your YT videos ??? to me it seems like it
like for example who the f would play wedge (strv) ?? .. if you dont plan to sit at 1 place the whole game its useless, and even then the bouncines and slugishnes of the still unfixed aiming makes it near unplayabale wobly garbage, any tank on move aims quicker and is more stabilized even without stabilizer than this thing if it has to turn 1° to aim