The 10ms delay feels so perfect. This is a really fun one to use. I thought it would be trash but it's surprisingly refreshing. I just wish it had more attachments. More barrels and grips would definitely be a plus.
The low bullet velocity actually makes a lot of sense from a realism perspective. The MP5 SD actually vents gas to drop the velocity of its rounds to subsonic speeds.
@@timkey87 Have you met many of the younger gun crowd? Putting weird anime stuff on your rifle and posting it online is almost boring these days. But all I'm saying is that intentionally or otherwise the Devs got a detail right where a lot of modern suppressors actually slightly boost velocity.
@@timkey87 You do realize quite a few countries use attractive women as a form of propaganda for their military, right? If she was wearing military gear it could very well be somewhat realistic
Some SMG's I just build and treat like "Primary pistols" usually the ISO and Fennec with high grain rounds. and this feels most like a welcome addition with it's 15 round mag. Also to any smart shoppers out there. Even as the Shroud shares the same default parts as the Lachman Sub, (LMK64 grip, LMS9 Stock) shroud bundles with the default grip/stock will not be appliable to your other lachman weapons. Do not expect bonus attachments from Shroud bundles. Thanks for reading.
I know right?! This SMG is better at range than the M16... The M16 feels like it's controlled by an actor that does fake recoil for an action scene, waiting for the CGI team to put the flash on the end of the barrel
It's just so damn accurate with almost no recoil. I don't even find that I ever really need anything over a 30mag. The ammo count is so manageable. I love it. Been running the ruff day FR tracers and they are fryin. Op is nice too.
Same, I saw Handler using this before I unlocked it and he was running it without an extended mag (which is unusual for him). My class is just a laser, longest barrel, sight, no stock and sharkfin grip. It's kind of slow but the mobility, especially when aimed in makes it so you're preaiming corners or gun fights. I always win lmao
"I think it's a little weird that they re-used the mp5 model, slapped a barrel on it, and called it a new gun" It's almost like that's exactly what H&K did with the mp5sd. Slap a ported barrel onto an MP5 and a suppressor and boom you have the peerfect spec ops sub gun/
I think everyone's issue is that the barrel could have just been ported to the MP5 itself. I feel that way as well. The Honeybadger does this. This weapon has its own unique damage profile that's entirely different from what the MP5 does so we should be able to use the integrals barrel on there and it'll affect it differently and not upset the niche the Shroud has found. But seeing as Infinity Ward has nerfed every integrated suppressor into the ground, they'd only ruin it
Man before this gun came out, I wasn’t sure how I’d feel about a BURST smg in this game, but after playing with this gun, I instantly fell in love. It’s a better, more controllable M16 than the M16 even if the range isn’t great. It only took me a few games to get an MGB with this gun, and a few after to get one with the new pistol.
As far as the model goes, I can give them the benefit of the doubt considering that there is really no such thing as a burst only SMG in reality, at least certainly not in modern weapons, because that would be stupid. So fair enough, I think, to use an existing gun that is at least well known for a 3 round burst selector.
I've been running this a lot in 4v4 faceoff, and really loving it! It didn't take long to notice the bullet velocity though, so I still run the 170mm barrel and try to mitigate the slower ADS with other attachments. It would've been nice to see how the bullet velocity changes with different attachments. Not sure if this is easily measured, but still. Other than that, thanks for a great video as always :)
I haven't tried the weapon but if it's like that burst SMG in Black Ops 4 (I think it was called the Daemon XQB or something), I'd enjoy it. When I played this game, I wanted more burst weapons but they've added it so late.
@@hamza-chaudhry its not as fast as the 3xb in terms of the fire rate but its a nasty little fucker of a gun and i like it, also the feeling is mutual regarding MW3 im waiting until the open beta comes through to try it out, and will likely wait till a discount comes up to buy the game
Oh snap! I haven't even tried it in semi auto. Lmao. The burst fire is just so nice. I don't think my finger can do that consistently. The only thing I don't like is that it's slightly harder doing drop shots while maintaining that continuous burst.
Glad that they finally added a burst SMG. Big fan of burst weapons, and loved previous burst smgs like KSP, chicom, pharaoh, chicom. The fact that it's an mp5 burst is strange, but it's a good gun. Just wish the intgral supressor barrel could be used on base mp5 to.
Good things: Can use no stock and no recoil, has good mobility, has good ttk close and feels great, silence gun finally works. Conts: Bullet Velocity is really a pain my friend, against the meta or tryhards using meta and more will be hard to counter, sometimes feels the burst or 1 bullet per trigger may not happen, range is ok but can’t do long ones. Overall its great and feels good, even for me better then the MP5 normal
I agree with you. I was actually quite disappointed and frustrated that this game severely lacked burst fire weapons. BOCW had 5 and that game is in the past. MWII should have more right? Well MW 2019 had 2-3 (depends on if the AN-94 counts or not). And MWII now has 2-3 (depends if the MP5 counts).
I was disgusted a bit when they made the Famas not burst fire and full auto (when it was revealed - even though that weapon is fun to use and I like it). Cos we didn’t know the MP5SD/Lachmann Shroud was going to be burst fire. So I am happy. Although I agree with Ace that it using the MP5 model is not ideal and I think it should have been a different weapon. The M13C is useless though. The AR category just has a load of rubbish in it. Too many guns and most are alike to each other. Almost half of them could and should be removed.
@@bobdarrick2628 I agree about the FAMAS, I was super surprised it didn't have a burst option too... I mainly use DMR's and other headshot-kill or big damage type weapons, or SMGs, and I've been LOVING this gun. First game I unlocked it the other night I was doing Okay, got the optics unlocked and started Ripping. It felt so good I saved a clip and put it on my channel publicly
Thing is a beast in hardcore on semi-auto and a 3.4x scope, only thing that hurts it is that the bullet velocity is slower than piss, but, it is accurate to the design of the weapon, the MP5SD integral suppressor is made in such a way that if you feed the gun super-sonic ammunition it will actually vent enough gas in the suppressor that the bullet becomes sub-sonic after leaving the tip of the suppressor, pretty cool, but also pretty annoying for a call of duty game
Finally they added another burst fire weapon (the third one of the MP5 counts). Took them long enough and it could have been a different weapon model, but I’m happy. The Shroud is effective and fun to use. This game needed more burst fire weapons.
I did the grind and just unlocked the shroud. The base gun is terrible, we’ll see if my opinion changes after I level it up. I do like the Daemon pistol. Would like to see a guide for it!
Great Vid, glad you're back from honeymoon, hope it was awesome. Speaking of awesome, this one is definitely great. It only took 1-2 hours of play to get it to Orion. There are great close-in SMGs in this game. Do I use the Fennec, ISO, or Shroud? Would love to have about 20 class slots :)
Semi on this thing pretty much make high grain ammunition on other smg obsolete. Why waste attachment slot and stick with tiny mag when just a flick on fire select and you gain same or even better damage property, you may not have the swiftness, but your magazine still holds 30 rounds and can be increased further if you want to.
I don't know if it's because of the 10ms delay but whenever I time my trigger presses I can make the gun fire full auto lol I don't know if anyone else knew that but if you didn't now you do
This gun with the Holotherm sight feels so right 🤌🏽 I was going for a hipfire build but found myself still aiming because it wasn't bad even with hipfire attachments lol
Great guide, one small thing stood out though. Is the 4-shot TTK really 262ms? Because surely the 4th shot comes from a new burst: the delay is only 10ms, and the first shot of a burst is fired on the trigger pull, not keeping to the RPM inside the burst, thus giving a 4-shit TTK of 178ms? 262ms implies that quickly pulling the trigger multiple times makes the burst delay irrelevant, and that the RPM does not reset with each burst - I did not think the mechanic worked this way, and the video describes it as "within the burst" as opposed to an RPM cap even with the burst delay. Please correct me if I'm completely off base here. It's been a while since I watched an In-Depth on burst mechanics.
I'm on the fence of..."I hate it with a passion" and "I love it". The longshots came easier to me than any other SMG. But the headshots were the biggest struggle compared to the other SMGs. I only used it for this events SMG headshots and when I got it Poly/Orion I still needed 12 headshots. I bitched the entire time but it's my 2nd highest K/D SMG and my 8th highest K/D gun. WTF? It felt like trash.
I figured this wud be as good as the burst on the finnic. It's nice to see it's better. Also annoying because people are gunna be melting me with it consistently
Lachmann Shroud is basically the MP5SD integrated silencer version of the mp5, in real life is full auto but in cod mw2 this gun is burst, seriously these developers are so dumb and don’t know what call of duty is anymore at this point
It will be nerfed next update. It is WAAAAAY to accurate. The low bullet velocity is actually is easily negated by the rapid fire and accuracy. I actually put a NV scope on it and used it as a "Sniper" set up and did damn well with it.
You'd think that for a franchise that's gone as long as it has, they wouldn't make a submachine gun better than a certain other burst fire assault rifle.
The M16, which used to be my favourite especially in Cold War is the most inconsistent pile of trash in MW2. How on earth is the Shroud getting longer range kills easier than the M16? Nice 'realism' they got there.
semi mode much better, faster ttk, more forgiving if u needed 1 extra bullet to kill, i can consistently get 2 shot kill, up close but i rarely get 1 burst.
It doesn't matter that it behaves differently, it's annoying that we have 2 MP5s when they could have just adjusted the burst fire on the one. It just screams lazy.
yall be sleeping on semiauto it's busted on shipment or just small maps im general easy 2-3kd game every time. Basically a primary p890 but shoots significantly faster I'm tellin yall it's broken
Making this an entirely new weapon (even though we already had a “lm nebula” barrel already in the game) instead of an attachment is flatout bad game design
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The 10ms delay feels so perfect. This is a really fun one to use. I thought it would be trash but it's surprisingly refreshing. I just wish it had more attachments. More barrels and grips would definitely be a plus.
The low bullet velocity actually makes a lot of sense from a realism perspective. The MP5 SD actually vents gas to drop the velocity of its rounds to subsonic speeds.
I don't think you should even use a word "realism" referring to a game where Nikki Minaj running with pink assault rifle
@@timkey87 Have you met many of the younger gun crowd? Putting weird anime stuff on your rifle and posting it online is almost boring these days.
But all I'm saying is that intentionally or otherwise the Devs got a detail right where a lot of modern suppressors actually slightly boost velocity.
I think that's the entire idea behind it tbh. That's the intention of the real design otherwise it's just another mp5
@@timkey87 You do realize quite a few countries use attractive women as a form of propaganda for their military, right? If she was wearing military gear it could very well be somewhat realistic
@@Grumpisaurus I for one find armed women attractive, at least an automatic +2, with multiplying returns the more attractive she is as a baseline.
Some SMG's I just build and treat like "Primary pistols" usually the ISO and Fennec with high grain rounds. and this feels most like a welcome addition with it's 15 round mag.
Also to any smart shoppers out there. Even as the Shroud shares the same default parts as the Lachman Sub, (LMK64 grip, LMS9 Stock) shroud bundles with the default grip/stock will not be appliable to your other lachman weapons. Do not expect bonus attachments from Shroud bundles. Thanks for reading.
Who thought it was a good idea to make it better then the M16?
I love burst guns. I've been disappointed for SEVERAL CODs
I know right?! This SMG is better at range than the M16...
The M16 feels like it's controlled by an actor that does fake recoil for an action scene, waiting for the CGI team to put the flash on the end of the barrel
The M16 needs a huge buff
Not a shroud problem tho. That's just the m16 still being garbage. Maybe next game they can give us a decent 3rnd burst
@@ozziewildgamingdon’t hold your breath
It's just so damn accurate with almost no recoil. I don't even find that I ever really need anything over a 30mag. The ammo count is so manageable. I love it. Been running the ruff day FR tracers and they are fryin. Op is nice too.
Same, I saw Handler using this before I unlocked it and he was running it without an extended mag (which is unusual for him). My class is just a laser, longest barrel, sight, no stock and sharkfin grip. It's kind of slow but the mobility, especially when aimed in makes it so you're preaiming corners or gun fights. I always win lmao
"I think it's a little weird that they re-used the mp5 model, slapped a barrel on it, and called it a new gun"
It's almost like that's exactly what H&K did with the mp5sd. Slap a ported barrel onto an MP5 and a suppressor and boom you have the peerfect spec ops sub gun/
I think everyone's issue is that the barrel could have just been ported to the MP5 itself. I feel that way as well. The Honeybadger does this. This weapon has its own unique damage profile that's entirely different from what the MP5 does so we should be able to use the integrals barrel on there and it'll affect it differently and not upset the niche the Shroud has found. But seeing as Infinity Ward has nerfed every integrated suppressor into the ground, they'd only ruin it
Man before this gun came out, I wasn’t sure how I’d feel about a BURST smg in this game, but after playing with this gun, I instantly fell in love. It’s a better, more controllable M16 than the M16 even if the range isn’t great. It only took me a few games to get an MGB with this gun, and a few after to get one with the new pistol.
I'm enjoying using it much more than I thought I would
Awesome gun guide as usual. Haven’t unlocked this yet. Been using the new 9mm handgun (1911). That’s been pretty fun to level up.
You should unlock the LM Shroud/MP5SD bro. It’s good.
@@bobdarrick2628 I’m currently trying to unlock it right now lol
As far as the model goes, I can give them the benefit of the doubt considering that there is really no such thing as a burst only SMG in reality, at least certainly not in modern weapons, because that would be stupid. So fair enough, I think, to use an existing gun that is at least well known for a 3 round burst selector.
I've been running this a lot in 4v4 faceoff, and really loving it! It didn't take long to notice the bullet velocity though, so I still run the 170mm barrel and try to mitigate the slower ADS with other attachments.
It would've been nice to see how the bullet velocity changes with different attachments. Not sure if this is easily measured, but still. Other than that, thanks for a great video as always :)
Ace: **Finally made every melee weapon recap**
Activision: *HUE HUE IT'S TIME TO RELEASE THE 4TH MELEE*
I haven't tried the weapon but if it's like that burst SMG in Black Ops 4 (I think it was called the Daemon XQB or something), I'd enjoy it. When I played this game, I wanted more burst weapons but they've added it so late.
You'll be able to use it throughout MW3.
@@tyrfingbroadaxe1217 I don't know if I'm buying that game
@@hamza-chaudhry its not as fast as the 3xb in terms of the fire rate but its a nasty little fucker of a gun and i like it, also the feeling is mutual regarding MW3 im waiting until the open beta comes through to try it out, and will likely wait till a discount comes up to buy the game
Funny enough that Daemon 3XB is based on the MP5K, so its practically the same gun in different universe
@@dybixs1400 huh, well i'll be damned
This is the most fresh and fun-to-use weapon they've added to this game in a while. Loving it so far!
Oh snap! I haven't even tried it in semi auto. Lmao. The burst fire is just so nice. I don't think my finger can do that consistently. The only thing I don't like is that it's slightly harder doing drop shots while maintaining that continuous burst.
On your all around builds I don’t have to pull back to change the recoil, as long as I have sight picture it’s over. Thank you for doing this for us
Glad that they finally added a burst SMG. Big fan of burst weapons, and loved previous burst smgs like KSP, chicom, pharaoh, chicom. The fact that it's an mp5 burst is strange, but it's a good gun. Just wish the intgral supressor barrel could be used on base mp5 to.
Really it probably should have been some attachments for the MP5 not it's own thing
I recommend the 15 rnd mag on this, you don't need as much ammo to kill and fast hands helps make sure you can top up with solid mobility increase
This gun is an absolute monster in semi auto in warzone, and it still shreds in multiplayer. I wouldn’t be surprised if a nerf is incoming
a nerf is definitely coming its ridiculous how much damage this outputs while being steady
i see a buff coming, people have shitty trigger fingers, unless they are sweats like you guys watching these videos
no one uses this currently in my lobbies i see a buff coming they buff nerf guns based on usage in lobbies
There's a build where your hip spread actually shrinks while strafing.
Thanks Ace! 👍🏻 I was really struggling with this gun till you showed me it's potential
Good things: Can use no stock and no recoil, has good mobility, has good ttk close and feels great, silence gun finally works.
Conts: Bullet Velocity is really a pain my friend, against the meta or tryhards using meta and more will be hard to counter, sometimes feels the burst or 1 bullet per trigger may not happen, range is ok but can’t do long ones.
Overall its great and feels good, even for me better then the MP5 normal
This was the burst fire gun I've been wanting in this game since launch... Too bad they waited so long!
I agree with you. I was actually quite disappointed and frustrated that this game severely lacked burst fire weapons. BOCW had 5 and that game is in the past. MWII should have more right? Well MW 2019 had 2-3 (depends on if the AN-94 counts or not). And MWII now has 2-3 (depends if the MP5 counts).
I was disgusted a bit when they made the Famas not burst fire and full auto (when it was revealed - even though that weapon is fun to use and I like it). Cos we didn’t know the MP5SD/Lachmann Shroud was going to be burst fire. So I am happy. Although I agree with Ace that it using the MP5 model is not ideal and I think it should have been a different weapon. The M13C is useless though. The AR category just has a load of rubbish in it. Too many guns and most are alike to each other. Almost half of them could and should be removed.
@@bobdarrick2628 I agree about the FAMAS, I was super surprised it didn't have a burst option too...
I mainly use DMR's and other headshot-kill or big damage type weapons, or SMGs, and I've been LOVING this gun.
First game I unlocked it the other night I was doing Okay, got the optics unlocked and started Ripping. It felt so good I saved a clip and put it on my channel publicly
Ksp was my fav weapon in Cold War. About time they added a burst smg
Thing is a beast in hardcore on semi-auto and a 3.4x scope, only thing that hurts it is that the bullet velocity is slower than piss, but, it is accurate to the design of the weapon, the MP5SD integral suppressor is made in such a way that if you feed the gun super-sonic ammunition it will actually vent enough gas in the suppressor that the bullet becomes sub-sonic after leaving the tip of the suppressor, pretty cool, but also pretty annoying for a call of duty game
For HC the shroud is amazing in semi auto fire. It has such a long 1 shot range and can actually outgun most assault rifles
Finally they added another burst fire weapon (the third one of the MP5 counts). Took them long enough and it could have been a different weapon model, but I’m happy. The Shroud is effective and fun to use. This game needed more burst fire weapons.
I did the grind and just unlocked the shroud. The base gun is terrible, we’ll see if my opinion changes after I level it up. I do like the Daemon pistol. Would like to see a guide for it!
actually one of the few dlc weapons i found enjoyable
Great Vid, glad you're back from honeymoon, hope it was awesome. Speaking of awesome, this one is definitely great. It only took 1-2 hours of play to get it to Orion. There are great close-in SMGs in this game. Do I use the Fennec, ISO, or Shroud? Would love to have about 20 class slots :)
Semi on this thing pretty much make high grain ammunition on other smg obsolete. Why waste attachment slot and stick with tiny mag when just a flick on fire select and you gain same or even better damage property, you may not have the swiftness, but your magazine still holds 30 rounds and can be increased further if you want to.
Interested in your stat breakdown for the 9mm 1911, daemon?
It's insane that we're calling a quarter of a second TTK kind of slow.
Surprisingly I enjoyed this one
This gun gives me hope for a good burst fire FAMAS in S6 or MW3, but I feel that hope will be dashed.
I don't know if it's because of the 10ms delay but whenever I time my trigger presses I can make the gun fire full auto lol I don't know if anyone else knew that but if you didn't now you do
Looking forward to trying this ngl
I wish we got more guns like the Shroud - high risk, high reward
Even with the linger barrel, the ads time is still really good.
Semi auto will definitely be decent in HC, especially for obtaining those longshots
This gun with the Holotherm sight feels so right 🤌🏽 I was going for a hipfire build but found myself still aiming because it wasn't bad even with hipfire attachments lol
Great guide, one small thing stood out though. Is the 4-shot TTK really 262ms? Because surely the 4th shot comes from a new burst: the delay is only 10ms, and the first shot of a burst is fired on the trigger pull, not keeping to the RPM inside the burst, thus giving a 4-shit TTK of 178ms? 262ms implies that quickly pulling the trigger multiple times makes the burst delay irrelevant, and that the RPM does not reset with each burst - I did not think the mechanic worked this way, and the video describes it as "within the burst" as opposed to an RPM cap even with the burst delay. Please correct me if I'm completely off base here. It's been a while since I watched an In-Depth on burst mechanics.
You have to factor in the fire time after the 3rd shot fired in addition to the burst delay
Hi there. One question though. Do you think this is a better semi auto smg then the iso 45?
Only 3 shot kill smg in semi. Had one of the best games with it.
Strike pack users gonna love that semi auto mode
I unlocked the "new" mp5, the climbing axe and the 1911(ok ok 2011) last night. Mp5 is ok but that 1911 is OP as all new guns usually are 🤣.
Xclusive Ace, did you ever review the M13C? I looked through your recent videos and you seemed to have missed it? or am i missing it
This thing shreds in WZ
This reminds me of the burst SMG from BO4
This is the first time that a burst gun is actually good but not super OP like the M16 in COD4
I'm on the fence of..."I hate it with a passion" and "I love it". The longshots came easier to me than any other SMG. But the headshots were the biggest struggle compared to the other SMGs. I only used it for this events SMG headshots and when I got it Poly/Orion I still needed 12 headshots. I bitched the entire time but it's my 2nd highest K/D SMG and my 8th highest K/D gun. WTF? It felt like trash.
Are u going to do a gun guide on the m13C
One of the best guns for hardcore
video games, love you ace.
MP5 is a very cool looking gun so I’m not complaining
I figured this wud be as good as the burst on the finnic. It's nice to see it's better. Also annoying because people are gunna be melting me with it consistently
why not just make the lachman sub 3 shot burst?
I built mine heavy and its viable as a close to mid range AR
Ace, can you test if the bas-p kills still down show as enemy skulls? I have the sensation it not does it anymore.
Lachmann Shroud is basically the MP5SD integrated silencer version of the mp5, in real life is full auto but in cod mw2 this gun is burst, seriously these developers are so dumb and don’t know what call of duty is anymore at this point
As it performs: it's good .
But the fact they just gave us another mp5 and said hey new thing is lame
Can you re do the m16 cause it’s great now
That second build is literally the class I made for it 😅
I have a question, the burst delay is only 10ms, so as 3 shot kill takes 168ms, the 4th shot should kill the enemy at 178ms, bcuz the delay is 10ms???
You still have to account for the fire time that applies after the 3rd shot fired
I don’t like it just use the Lachman sub for the close range?
Still waiting for Daemon akimbo
Daemon next?
Ace how many shots to kill is this irl? I keep getting hit markers it’s annoying
This gun is way OP in the right hands.
M13C gun guide?
It will be nerfed next update. It is WAAAAAY to accurate. The low bullet velocity is actually is easily negated by the rapid fire and accuracy. I actually put a NV scope on it and used it as a "Sniper" set up and did damn well with it.
So how bad is the mp5 in burst vs this?
You'd think that for a franchise that's gone as long as it has, they wouldn't make a submachine gun better than a certain other burst fire assault rifle.
Can this gun be fully auto
(Looks at the Lachmann Shroud, smacks the M16): See, that's how you make a burst weapon!
Why run armor piercing with the Balanced build instead of high-velocity?
High Velocity isn't an option on this gun
@@TheXclusiveAceit is on some smg that use 9mm get the new pistol to level 9 or 10 to get high velocity and boom use any smgs that havs 9mm like mp5
Subsonic ammo, you can’t put HV ammo on it
Like the Chimera
@@H0ST1GEThis uses Subsonic ammo so it can’t accept 9mm High Velocity.
@@TheXclusiveAce Ah you're right, my bad
To bad it's no competition for the tac56 or vaznev. The only weapons in the game.
The M16, which used to be my favourite especially in Cold War is the most inconsistent pile of trash in MW2. How on earth is the Shroud getting longer range kills easier than the M16? Nice 'realism' they got there.
They gonna nerf the hell out of the shroud...I been using the hell out of this
semi mode much better, faster ttk, more forgiving if u needed 1 extra bullet to kill, i can consistently get 2 shot kill, up close but i rarely get 1 burst.
I love this gun all I did was put a scope and a laser on it
we need an MP5K
🔥
This game is special lol
This like the COD4 M16
If this was MW2019, this variant would've been available alongside with the original gun since launch
It is the same
It's good but it's also a recycled MP5 which is lazy.
Doesn't the regular Lachman already have a burst mode? Why do this gun exist.
It behaves completely different. The Burst mode with the Lachmann Sub is far worse than the Shroud is.
It doesn't matter that it behaves differently, it's annoying that we have 2 MP5s when they could have just adjusted the burst fire on the one. It just screams lazy.
Akimbo unlock is broken on new pistol.
Great on paper but in practice it would be better being full auto
What?
Give us staccato p gun guide. PLS
M16 needs a real buff
It’s a hit or miss for me some games it’s dog shit some games it’s op
i think this gun is meant for close to mid range
I get so much kills hip firing with this gun lml
Now do da john wick gun
yall be sleeping on semiauto it's busted on shipment or just small maps im general easy 2-3kd game every time. Basically a primary p890 but shoots significantly faster I'm tellin yall it's broken
Basically KSP45 but better
They added another MP5? And we don’t have a UMP 45?! Lmaooooo
Making this an entirely new weapon (even though we already had a “lm nebula” barrel already in the game) instead of an attachment is flatout bad game design