Today’s middle class is not Manmohan Singh’s children but Narasimha Rao’s-if not for PM Rao there would be no Manmohan Singh .Unfortunately history and our senior journalists have not given him the credit he richly deserves in having changed the face of India
Manmohan Singh getting all the credit for liberalization - no credit to PV? is that fair or just a convenient positioning given the love for Congress and PV became a congress pariah?
That is a norm. They want to give credit only to MMS because as they themselves said they have their biases and objectivity in reporting is not there. MMS was always a follower, had it not been for PVN he wouldn't have been able to take the right steps. MMS's legacy will remain having lost 10 years of the nation overlooking rampant corruption by Congress and keeping quiet and being a remote controlled PM.
@@harshrajsanghvi6723 Do you believe there was no corruption before and after 10 years of MMS govt. I think the same corruption is continuing but it is managed well.
@@kavisiddu No one person can stop corruption. The entire ecosystem is made of people from the society we live and like you and me. But if even there is 10 percent improvement in execution of projects between govts. at the center then I shall opt for that govt instead of the one which is riddled in corruption and no decision is taken on ground.
@@harshrajsanghvi6723 No Sir... it is other way.. In earlier we could atleast get the information and demand investigation but the current govt resists the investigation and have made changes to the RTI act so that getting information has become very difficult. Today it is very scary situation.
@@kavisiddu i am not sure about this claim of yours. Can you publish the link which explains your claim of RTI having been amended to reduce transparency.
They have strong bias towards congress and its natural because they are among few Indians who grew to upper/middle class when congress was in power. BJP has to do the same at much larger scale bring more and more people out of poverty
Such wonderful content is published on the Print. I love the way interviews are conducted on the Print, where the person being interviewed gets more air time. Absolutely lovely
Really enjoyed this interview. Nothing like listening to two level headed people discussing things that matter dispassionately. Very insightful, honest and balanced answers. Looking forward to reading vir sanghvi's book.
I don't use this word often but he is a true blooded PRESSTITUTE - I used to read him as a kid and was horrified when the radia tapes came out and I found out that all his stances were bought and paid for. Propagandist
Another blast from the past . Vir Sanghvi's editorial in the Hindustan Times was my usual morning read for a number of years but the man sounds so hollow and completely irrelevant now . Like he summed it all up , journalists do have core values but for him unfortunately the core values his ilk represent like the colonised people's idea of India and its secularism , socialist equality and reformism are completely obsolete now .
When people say that print journalism is dead - they sometimes conflate quality and the medium. Completely agree that physically printed media such as a newspaper or a magazine is in terminal decline and will continue to do so but quality journalism will survive and thrive. This is why I pay for thePrint for my india news and WSJ (Via employer) and WaPo for news in the US. The old adage “you get what you pay for” is universally applicable and journalism is no exception.
@27:50 Sunny Leone is a law abiding Indian resident . She acts in movies , pays her taxes and moves on with her life , without hurting anyone. Journos have no business judging her for whatever reason.
Just an observation: Shekhar said when mentioning about Sunny Leone: One day I can interview a Prime Minister, another day I can interview people like Sunny Leone. Did you shy away or feel her past profession was something less that could not even be uttered in a sentence that mention a lucrative job title of Prime Minister? You could have said, one day I can interview the prime minister, the other day an adult movie star (if you did not want to use the word pornstar on the show).
The country's top Two Titanic personalities of the finest journalism speaking so many things of the past and present is a great feast....I remember seeing Vir Singhvi in the early 80s interviewing the who's who of the political world for the DD was a great memory I cherish of his intellectual personality... ❤️🙏
Shekhar Ji you would be apt man to cut the clutter on Piramal acquiring of DHFL under IBC route. I believe it is watershed moment for India. Would help us see what this means for India?
I really enjoyed Vir’s write up in Sunday magazine which made me a student of Indian politics. I love watching Vir’s interviews. This one is great too.
The point on education is what I felt during my engineering days at NIT there were students from DASA and MEA quota and they were educated in foreign schools from England, china, qatar and they lacked basics of almost every thing with scientific temperament but were good in soft skills
i regularly listen to your prog. "Cut The Clutter" and enjoy it. You have today announced that to listen to your prog. wherein you would share your life experience, one has to be a Paid members. i would request you to give it a thought, of giving a discount to SENIOR CITIZEN's who do not have any job/income and who may be a big audience.
This was a complete waste of time. As a young adult, I used to really admire Vir. Now, my own perspective has changed and Vir came across as biased. Not the gentleman from my yore.
@@na4369 What about the 10 years under him when we achieved double digit growth (unlike the -ve growth these days). 300 million people out of poverty under him.
Top BJP leaders of all times - Can you even tell where are their kids ? Do not generalise dynasty issues to defend Gandhis. Vajpayee , Adwani, Murli Manohar Joshi, Sushma Swaraj , Jaitley, Venkaish, Rajnath Singh ( Son is MP but not minister) , Gadkari, Amit Shah, Narendra Modi , Yogi .......
IMF forced 1991 reforms to happen when India approach IMF in 1989. Even the draft was already prepared before Manmohan became finance minister. He got too much credit as he is the one who has came up with that idea.
these old Congressies' hypocrisy is appaling. Rajib Gandhi massacred the Shikh community and fueled the Khalistani movement further. Still these hypocrites can be in awe and loyalist for life and call Modi the devider. The reason neither Rahul nor G23 can win any election is these hypocrites. What is Rajib Gandhi's credentials that someone has to be his full time loyalist? Did he do what Rao did?? His only credibility was that he was a Gandhi.
Greetings from Singapore very well said and described by Vir on the new India - Remember as a technology consultant working early 2000 in the Middle East had a big culture clash as they never expected younger Indians to talk back debate argue with the Arab boss in govt - Something which the older Indians working for donkey years never did -Once the project was over we were ready to move to the next project or country which was a shock to them they thought we would live there for ever . Same once flying into JFK on Emriates , as per security we had to show our passports to TSA staff after checking few Indian passports he said, why you guys don't fly with Air India? To which I said," we doing well so fly with the best Airline in the world" . I still like the old India speak good English better than the Brits, secular something which my home city Singapore vibes very strongly condemns racial slur very strongly and is a melting pot investment destination .Something which has worked very well for Singapore ,there is no discussion about politics and politicians very approachable and not demi gods like India.
If Vir Sanghvi believes India was created as non-religious state, then how come Nehru hardwired Sharia into the constitution? And how many pieces you have written on it?
India started developing in late 90s but lndia became confident after Modi came into power.lndians believe in themselves now than ever before.Vir Sanghavi are from the privileged family who could think of studying abroad in those times what a common man could not even dream of.So the elite class finds it difficult to stomach that young common lndians have confidence,proud of their heritage n culture and you being well spoken does not place you above everyone else.
Mr. Vir Singh , hope you get to read this I beleive they call journalism 4th pillar of democracy, and so it is very important that it is non-bias, neutral and fair. You can have your own opinions but you need to keep it to your self as it might influence your readers. And if it doesn't it is good but it also implies you don't trust the intelligence of your audience. Also understand most people hate extreme views and biased views (like Arnab, Rajdeep.....) If you say that you can have your opinion and display it to the public is like a judge having his own opinion and passing a judgement without respecting the laws of the country. News media can be considered as important as our justice system as it can influence minds of our public Hope to hear a reply from you if you disagree. Thanks 🙏
Great to listen to views of aging reporters . I am older than both Shekar and Vir and that is why their reporting appeals to me, I can identify with what they report, My question is how much appeal to the younger generation have of your broadcast.?
Is this same guy who caught in Radia Tape talking about core values ? You should have asked him to list out five policy decisions or Law by Modi Government which are discriminatory against second big majority (Muslims) . Government should be judged by their governance not by election speeches ....
If anyone wants to know the issues that Congress faces today, you have to listen to this interview. Fossilized ideas and stupid deflection of issues. There was one other change that Vir forgot. Editors are no longer being treated to Champaign and free government quarters by this PM. If that changes, then Modi would be a media darling
mocking Nehru ji is right to free speech and expression. How is that anyone's problem. It is guaranteed under constitution. At the end of the day Nehruji was a patriot but also had problems.
6:55 "It will pass..."; certainly it will pass when Yogi becomes PM. There will literally be no medicine to cure the itch of the likes of Vir and Sekhar ☺️😊👍💐
Question Why Congress not able to get rid of Gandhis? Is the real reason money or the court jester will kill each other and that works in favor of Gandhis? There is a wide speculations that he might be on the payroll of BJP. Everything he does it helps them.
If core believe that no caste n religion then will u support one NTN one law, one NTN one education n many more like this n what's abt population control n illegal immigrants Satyamev Jayate
We are starting to know who we are and what our country meant to the world...!!! Because we started to explore the TRUTH IN HISTORY AND RELIGION...AND LEARNING THE IMPORTANCE OF SCIENCE AND EVOLUTION...OF THE WORLD AND HUMAN RACE ...!!!
Not sure why the sin of communalism is always on the shoulders of BJP. Those seeds were sown far back in time going back to when for someone unknown reason many Hindus got massacred in the name of a random caliph in turkey. Till we don’t apportion part of the blame to Indian Congress, we are not going out of this struggle. True secularism cannot just be responsibility of one community while the other community behaves as they want. It’s the combined responsibility of all stakeholders.
What ever done in Modi time - it is done by Modi Whatever done in Rajiv Time - it is Rajiv done Whatever good done in PVNarasimhaRao time - it us Manmohan singh Whatever bad done PVNarasimhaRao time - it is PVNarasimha roa Congress lackys do this nonsense. Say it is done by PVNarasimha Rao. MMS proved that he is obidient servant of Italian Mafiosi in 2004-2013 time
I am 70 and part of the old Middle class. I can only say I know the difference between secularism and pseudo secularism. I also know how much Wahabbism is being pushed. Wake up Vir.
An 18yr old from Bilaspur has as much a right to an opinion as a "older milddle class Sanghviji" has. Social media has given the opportunity to put his viewpoint to the public domain. Sanghviji probably would rather want everyone to either agree to his opinion or not have such easy access to express his/her opinion as was the case in the India of the "older middle class". basically rich people getting upset why others are rising as well. lol
It’s not just Indian politics. There are dynasties in all the South Asian countries. There are small and big dynasties even in the oldest democracy, the USA. Same with China.
I don't understand why Shekar is wasting time with a biased person like Veer. I avoid reading him because he is highly disgusting and is a great support of tukde tukde gang.
Gupta ji, is it your case that children of Politician don't qualify to enter politics. Sanghvi ji secularism (सर्व धर्म समभाव) is in psych of majority of Indian. And be rest assured that India will remain secular till Hindu remain in majority. It is touted that India is secular because of Nehru. I agree with Sanghvi that no one can be neutral.
His entire knowledge circle starts from Rajiv Gandhi and ends on Rajiv Gandhi ,more I hear these journo brought up by congress ,more I wonder on their capabilities and IQ level
Sir None of the Indians say anything against Manmohan Singh the Finance Minister. But everybody speak against Man Mohan Singh the Prime Minister. Because Our expectation from Dr Man Mohan Singh the Prime Minister was more as we had enjoyed the benefit of him being the Finance Minister providing us this life which I as a child may have only dreamt of or seen in some movie. When Manmohan Singh was the finance minister then Gandhi Family's interference was not there on Indian Politics and that is why they could deliver but during his Prime ministerial tenure he was hand cuffed so that he cannot take any action, his mouth was taped so that he cannot speak and he was made a puppet which people of India could not accept and that is the reason of BJP's growth. You people are the intellectuals to whom we looked at in the 90s. So think sincerely and if possible discuss internally if not publicly "is Indian voter angry on Congress or on the Gandhis".
upleasement and upliftment are two different things and should not be mixed in each other to confuse people. first one ruin people by making theim mentally handicapped, while the other one improve the confidence and sense of belonging.
Half neo rich middle classes in any country promotes more jingoism, glorification of past etc... It's history of pre world wars Europe, USA. Only after calamity like war or suffering other disasters people begin to see wisdom.
You are making the same mistake as lutyens media. Watching BHARAT with a European lens. European Nationalism and philosophy is radically different from the India's.
Manmohan Singh did fiscal reforms whatever because of IMF & World Bank. If it was not Manmohan Singh, other Finance Minister in 1991-92 would have done it mandatorily.
Coming to dynasty, when did an ordinary Indian did not feel proud of the connections, how much remote they may be? The old word nepotism has now become "connections" and we were proud of it always. Dynasty is in our psyche.
A dying breed of those willing to stand up for what is right and decent....not has beens by any stretch. Sad that these two national treasures are so easily discounted while the likes of Arnab or RSS or Malvika are worshiped.
Both of you are well informed journalists. Can you please talk on a bit on the failure of communists in India despite so much of poverty and exploitations.
Vir ji if india was not a secular nation from the begining it would have done much better in every area. Atleast we should consider correcting that mistake now.
Greetings to the two media stalwarts, on one stage so to speak, who I have followed these past two decades. You are the best bet to address, my question. There was a time in the 1960s, my school days, when the refrain was “Oh if it is in the papers (Newspapers) then it must be true”. Alas! We can’t sat the same about the media these days - the reasons for this media decadence and reduced confidence in it are many and recognized. What can the media do to regain the lost confidence?
Media should start asking tough questions from its leaders specially godi media, even if the proposal seems good media should find fault in law and make govt amend it, don't spare politicians
@@Vizorfam what about media un congress time , why rajiv closed water, electricity if indian express , why newsprint paper quotes were controlled to control news papers . See Hindustan times with Mr Dua as editor , NDTV especially 2004 to 2009 , this happened in every era . Just read why 1st amendment of our constitution took place as there was a news magzin ee from kerala was one of the reason . Also just check the benefits editors and other press people from various goverments to judge . It is very easy and conveinant to put light on others by calling "Godi Media" . Every editor and media person all over the world has a "Godfather" . Do not fool yourself . Just see from 1980 to till date you will get your answers . Read India today of 1985 and see who was "Godfather" just an example .
@@Vizorfam DB I endorse that SG has come into his own and exudes class. I would not have said that of him before he started The Print. The print has varied programmes with the intention of disseminating information rather than trying to influence. Having said that, in my comment I did not mean that the media should just keep asking questions for the the sake of exhibiting “free speech”. In China nobody can ask Qs, so the Govt goes ahead and does what it wants. China is far ahead than many of the advanced democracies in its economic outlook. The other extreme is excessive freedom when nothing constructive can happen as questions are raised and protests are held for anything and everything. I wonder whether the Nation is aware that India has a reputation of being a laggard democracy, with no progress as it should have We do not want to be another China without any freedom, so to speak. Neither do we want to be a democracy where only questions are raised.to impede progress. Media has to always present a balanced view. The Print is close to doing it.
How many people have been to the Doon School that Sanghviji mentions ? I don't believe people are angry at Doon schoolers. Only a few 1000 went there in the entire history of Doon and how does that matter ? What matters is Sanghviji belonged to the ecosystem which was very powerful and did rub each others back and looked down upon others. Today due to social media the field of expression of our thoughts have become much more democratized than it used to be back then. So suddenly Sanghviji feels this middle class hates the older middle class. There is no such hatred. People are tired of the narrative that has been pushed down their throat for 70 years by the Congress-Left govt at center. And people like Sanghviji and other journalists and historians specially have perpetuated some myths as reality. Now the younger people are seeing that "there is more to the story than what these sol called older middle class people" wanted them to know.
That's a new low ,vir Sanghvi. Some of us (I am from lower middle class -dont own a car yet) are fed up with your rotten elitist secular fantasy. Secularism is when majority(here Hindus)stay shut. When Hindus question it's fascism, communalism. Well that normally works in a lot of democracies,not when you live in a forced secular state where the most conservative/fundamentalist far right (Muslims) are in an alliance with the ultra radical left and elite liberals like you. How elitist classists like you preach about humanity is beyond me.
As long as you describe some tv channel as 'Ravan channel' and highlight your political bias excessively, while downplaying or blacking out good things done by political dispensations not to your likings (as perceived by us) your chances of getting subscription will perhaps be limited. Public are not so blind as not able to see through the agendas of (big as well as small) news houses . I am 76 years old and stopped buying news papers years ago in disgust, after seeing printed news in such a distorted and biased fashion. Your analysis is good and I listen to it sometimes. But I shall subscribe (by paying) your channel happily , when you present news in a somewhat balanced fashion. Today I am happy with news headlines and some internet news portals available online. I agree, newspapers(print) industry is in trouble. Electronic media is in a somewhat better position. Today, I can choose news to my liking, not chosen or highlighted by you. So you are in trouble. It is a pain to see how newspapers, even tv channels , black out negative news or incompetence of governments, for fear of loosing advertisements.
It is outright hypocrisy if Suniel Jakhar got carried away with the notion of him even being seriously considered for CM of Punjab. Only a sensible Jat Sikh can be a CM of Punjab and give it stability. Else militancy will return in the state.
2 of the most senior journalists, ans one I have lit of respect for, saying things thats surprise me coming from them. No congress leader, not one, believes EVMs are responsible for their failures. And it does take the political acumen of an editor to know this. Even fewer respect Rahul Gandhi deep inside but are too incompetent to say that. Billi ke gale mein ghanti kaun bandhe. While Mr Gandhi’s lack of charisma may have taken Congress down, its the sycophancy of the top leaders taking it into a freefall.
Biggest surprise is that Vir is older than Shekhar 😱😀. I would have thought Shekhar was older haha.
Omg is it
That's the power of hair dye!
Vegetarians are ganjus
Today’s middle class is not Manmohan Singh’s children but Narasimha Rao’s-if not for PM Rao there would be no Manmohan Singh .Unfortunately history and our senior journalists have not given him the credit he richly deserves in having changed the face of India
I absolutely agree on this
Bullseye, beautifully expressed. We are PVNR's children, not MMS's.
Narsimha Rao was the most intelligent politician of India .....
My two top favourite journalists in conversation!! You cannot get more balanced, objective than them!! Amazing experience for me!!
Two of my favorite journalists in one conversation. Shekar this was truly delightful. Thank you.
Manmohan Singh getting all the credit for liberalization - no credit to PV? is that fair or just a convenient positioning given the love for Congress and PV became a congress pariah?
That is a norm. They want to give credit only to MMS because as they themselves said they have their biases and objectivity in reporting is not there. MMS was always a follower, had it not been for PVN he wouldn't have been able to take the right steps. MMS's legacy will remain having lost 10 years of the nation overlooking rampant corruption by Congress and keeping quiet and being a remote controlled PM.
@@harshrajsanghvi6723 Do you believe there was no corruption before and after 10 years of MMS govt. I think the same corruption is continuing but it is managed well.
@@kavisiddu No one person can stop corruption. The entire ecosystem is made of people from the society we live and like you and me. But if even there is 10 percent improvement in execution of projects between govts. at the center then I shall opt for that govt instead of the one which is riddled in corruption and no decision is taken on ground.
@@harshrajsanghvi6723 No Sir... it is other way.. In earlier we could atleast get the information and demand investigation but the current govt resists the investigation and have made changes to the RTI act so that getting information has become very difficult. Today it is very scary situation.
@@kavisiddu i am not sure about this claim of yours. Can you publish the link which explains your claim of RTI having been amended to reduce transparency.
Why did both these gentle men not get agitated( as they do when yogi speaks) when the congress spoke of saffron terror when none existed
They have strong bias towards congress and its natural because they are among few Indians who grew to upper/middle class when congress was in power. BJP has to do the same at much larger scale bring more and more people out of poverty
Such wonderful content is published on the Print. I love the way interviews are conducted on the Print, where the person being interviewed gets more air time. Absolutely lovely
Vir Sanghvi was never middle class or anything below
Really enjoyed this interview. Nothing like listening to two level headed people discussing things that matter dispassionately. Very insightful, honest and balanced answers. Looking forward to reading vir sanghvi's book.
Do not agree with much of it except the trivia, but still enjoyed the whole discussion
shekarji you should realize that vir sanghvi has lost his credibility.
I don't use this word often but he is a true blooded PRESSTITUTE - I used to read him as a kid and was horrified when the radia tapes came out and I found out that all his stances were bought and paid for. Propagandist
@@AKumar-co7oe absolutely. He was the dhobi of Gandi family.. he cleans with his teeth and tongue
His observations on the old vs new middle class are correct, though
Do an Off Cuff episode with J Sai Deepak Author of India that is Bharat
will be a big surprise.
That would be awesome. But too much of an ideological departure for the Print.
@@nmg1443 Then Print should never call itself as unbiased journalism portal or news organization
@@daksh2953 No argument with that. You're right.
Another blast from the past . Vir Sanghvi's editorial in the Hindustan Times was my usual morning read for a number of years but the man sounds so hollow and completely irrelevant now . Like he summed it all up , journalists do have core values but for him unfortunately the core values his ilk represent like the colonised people's idea of India and its secularism , socialist equality and reformism are completely obsolete now .
Mamatha can’t keep company with Modi yogi Nitish etc - she has a nephew she is promoting - she has a dynasty
Always a pleasure to listen to Vir sir!
@11:45 Sir, Nitish Kumar was married. His wife passed away a few years ago.
When people say that print journalism is dead - they sometimes conflate quality and the medium. Completely agree that physically printed media such as a newspaper or a magazine is in terminal decline and will continue to do so but quality journalism will survive and thrive. This is why I pay for thePrint for my india news and WSJ (Via employer) and WaPo for news in the US.
The old adage “you get what you pay for” is universally applicable and journalism is no exception.
@27:50 Sunny Leone is a law abiding Indian resident . She acts in movies , pays her taxes and moves on with her life , without hurting anyone. Journos have no business judging her for whatever reason.
Very well said. Compared to criminal blood sucking politicians, she is practically a saint.
India has yet to produce a journalist like vir❤️
Just an observation: Shekhar said when mentioning about Sunny Leone: One day I can interview a Prime Minister, another day I can interview people like Sunny Leone. Did you shy away or feel her past profession was something less that could not even be uttered in a sentence that mention a lucrative job title of Prime Minister? You could have said, one day I can interview the prime minister, the other day an adult movie star (if you did not want to use the word pornstar on the show).
oh sensitive aadmi....itna touchy nahi hona chahiye....he made sure he didn't say it in a derogatory way...seriously people like u are a big pain!!
@@saumitra372 oh safeed kapda ..... haha ...aunty aap etna kyu hyper ho rahi ho .....
The country's top Two Titanic personalities of the finest journalism speaking so many things of the past and present is a great feast....I remember seeing Vir Singhvi in the early 80s interviewing the who's who of the political world for the DD was a great memory I cherish of his intellectual personality... ❤️🙏
Bring j sai Deepak on OTC
Shekhar Ji you would be apt man to cut the clutter on Piramal acquiring of DHFL under IBC route. I believe it is watershed moment for India. Would help us see what this means for India?
Veer always opposes BJP.
In any case only about 30% of the population votes for the BJP and 70% doesn't. So .. Well!
And nothing wrong with that.
Very well done, good to hear veterans speak of the profession.
The credit of 1991 reform largely goes to P.V. Narasimha Rao...He was a Bharat Ratna candidate.
I really enjoyed Vir’s write up in Sunday magazine which made me a student of Indian politics.
I love watching Vir’s interviews. This one is great too.
The point on education is what I felt during my engineering days at NIT there were students from DASA and MEA quota and they were educated in foreign schools from England, china, qatar and they lacked basics of almost every thing with scientific temperament but were good in soft skills
i regularly listen to your prog. "Cut The Clutter" and enjoy it. You have today announced that to listen to your prog. wherein you would share your life experience, one has to be a Paid members. i would request you to give it a thought, of giving a discount to SENIOR CITIZEN's who do not have any job/income and who may be a big audience.
1) Cricket
2) Film
3) Politics
4) Business - Most Talked/Discussed Topics In India .
But Success Rate To Reach Top Is Very Low . 😐
Bro to hard work se ho jata
There are two manmohan sings. One who was under PV Narsomha Rao, and other who was officiating PM under Sonia Gandhi.
This was a complete waste of time. As a young adult, I used to really admire Vir. Now, my own perspective has changed and Vir came across as biased. Not the gentleman from my yore.
we are the children of PV Narasimha Rao
@@na4369 What about the 10 years under him when we achieved double digit growth (unlike the -ve growth these days). 300 million people out of poverty under him.
You better watch Shekhar’s interview with Narasimha Rao..
Top BJP leaders of all times - Can you even tell where are their kids ? Do not generalise dynasty issues to defend Gandhis. Vajpayee , Adwani, Murli Manohar Joshi, Sushma Swaraj , Jaitley, Venkaish, Rajnath Singh ( Son is MP but not minister) , Gadkari, Amit Shah, Narendra Modi , Yogi .......
IMF forced 1991 reforms to happen when India approach IMF in 1989. Even the draft was already prepared before Manmohan became finance minister. He got too much credit as he is the one who has came up with that idea.
these old Congressies' hypocrisy is appaling. Rajib Gandhi massacred the Shikh community and fueled the Khalistani movement further. Still these hypocrites can be in awe and loyalist for life and call Modi the devider. The reason neither Rahul nor G23 can win any election is these hypocrites. What is Rajib Gandhi's credentials that someone has to be his full time loyalist? Did he do what Rao did?? His only credibility was that he was a Gandhi.
Two anti Modi editors who try to subtly criticise Modi in everything - directly and indirectly
Why shouldn't they?
@@sharduldiwan2009 They can but they shouldn't really claim to be neutral or objective
You are the uneducated new middle class
@@innigaadu They aren't claiming either.
Nothing wrong with criticism of the Govt.. it is the duty of the media.
Greetings from Singapore very well said and described by Vir on the new India -
Remember as a technology consultant working early 2000 in the Middle East had a big culture clash as they never expected younger Indians to talk back debate argue with the Arab boss in govt - Something which the older Indians working for donkey years never did -Once the project was over we were ready to move to the next project or country which was a shock to them they thought we would live there for ever .
Same once flying into JFK on Emriates , as per security we had to show our passports to TSA staff after checking few Indian passports he said, why you guys don't fly with Air India? To which I said," we doing well so fly with the best Airline in the world" .
I still like the old India speak good English better than the Brits, secular something which my home city Singapore vibes very strongly condemns racial slur very strongly and is a melting pot investment destination .Something which has worked very well for Singapore ,there is no discussion about politics and politicians very approachable and not demi gods like India.
Custom Made For Vir Sanghvi - NDTV Good Times Channel. 😀👍
Presstitute sanghvi talks of Yogi and BJP about secularism.. but mum on Kerala.. love jihad..
Vir Sanghvi ji thinks that middle class people went to Doon school in the olden days....
Call Arnab Goswami in the Off the Cuff
If Vir Sanghvi believes India was created as non-religious state, then how come Nehru hardwired Sharia into the constitution? And how many pieces you have written on it?
Did you study constitution?
@@shubhamdakhane6272Abybody who can read English...
Vir Sanghvi is a hypocrite...he has a self perptuating personality
@@ajaysudame reading English and studying constitution are two different things. I have studied constitution and there is not an iota of sharia in it.
@@shubhamdakhane6272 What would you call allowing Muslims polygamy?
India started developing in late 90s but lndia became confident after Modi came into power.lndians believe in themselves now than ever before.Vir Sanghavi are from the privileged family who could think of studying abroad in those times what a common man could not even dream of.So the elite class finds it difficult to stomach that young common lndians have confidence,proud of their heritage n culture and you being well spoken does not place you above everyone else.
Why Manmohan didn’t make such change 2004 to 2014.
Narsimha Rao was the person who allowed and give free hand to Manmohan Singh ji
Mr. Vir Singh , hope you get to read this
I beleive they call journalism 4th pillar of democracy, and so it is very important that it is non-bias, neutral and fair. You can have your own opinions but you need to keep it to your self as it might influence your readers. And if it doesn't it is good but it also implies you don't trust the intelligence of your audience. Also understand most people hate extreme views and biased views (like Arnab, Rajdeep.....)
If you say that you can have your opinion and display it to the public is like a judge having his own opinion and passing a judgement without respecting the laws of the country. News media can be considered as important as our justice system as it can influence minds of our public
Hope to hear a reply from you if you disagree. Thanks 🙏
Vir Singhvi, well done, you are a lovable human
Great to listen to views of aging reporters . I am older than both Shekar and Vir and that is why their reporting appeals to me, I can identify with what they report, My question is how much appeal to the younger generation have of your broadcast.?
Greetings from Pakistan. Indeed a nice show.
Is this same guy who caught in Radia Tape talking about core values ? You should have asked him to list out five policy decisions or Law by Modi Government which are discriminatory against second big majority (Muslims) . Government should be judged by their governance not by election speeches ....
If anyone wants to know the issues that Congress faces today, you have to listen to this interview. Fossilized ideas and stupid deflection of issues.
There was one other change that Vir forgot. Editors are no longer being treated to Champaign and free government quarters by this PM. If that changes, then Modi would be a media darling
mocking Nehru ji is right to free speech and expression. How is that anyone's problem. It is guaranteed under constitution. At the end of the day Nehruji was a patriot but also had problems.
Good to listen to stalwarts of Indians Journalism and their views on all facets of our country.Excellent di
6:55 "It will pass..."; certainly it will pass when Yogi becomes PM. There will literally be no medicine to cure the itch of the likes of Vir and Sekhar ☺️😊👍💐
Question Why Congress not able to get rid of Gandhis? Is the real reason money or the court jester will kill each other and that works in favor of Gandhis? There is a wide speculations that he might be on the payroll of BJP. Everything he does it helps them.
Interesting opinions. Nice intervew. We are waiting eagerly for the wine and cheese
If core believe that no caste n religion then will u support one NTN one law, one NTN one education n many more like this n what's abt population control n illegal immigrants
Satyamev Jayate
We are starting to know who we are and what our country meant to the world...!!!
Because we started to explore the TRUTH IN HISTORY AND RELIGION...AND LEARNING THE IMPORTANCE OF SCIENCE AND EVOLUTION...OF THE WORLD AND HUMAN RACE ...!!!
Not sure why the sin of communalism is always on the shoulders of BJP. Those seeds were sown far back in time going back to when for someone unknown reason many Hindus got massacred in the name of a random caliph in turkey. Till we don’t apportion part of the blame to Indian Congress, we are not going out of this struggle. True secularism cannot just be responsibility of one community while the other community behaves as they want. It’s the combined responsibility of all stakeholders.
What ever done in Modi time - it is done by Modi
Whatever done in Rajiv Time - it is Rajiv done
Whatever good done in PVNarasimhaRao time - it us Manmohan singh
Whatever bad done PVNarasimhaRao time - it is PVNarasimha roa
Congress lackys do this nonsense.
Say it is done by PVNarasimha Rao.
MMS proved that he is obidient servant of Italian Mafiosi in 2004-2013 time
I am 70 and part of the old Middle class. I can only say I know the difference between secularism and pseudo secularism. I also know how much Wahabbism is being pushed. Wake up Vir.
27:40 SG started blushing. Never let the man in you die SG 😁
An 18yr old from Bilaspur has as much a right to an opinion as a "older milddle class Sanghviji" has. Social media has given the opportunity to put his viewpoint to the public domain. Sanghviji probably would rather want everyone to either agree to his opinion or not have such easy access to express his/her opinion as was the case in the India of the "older middle class". basically rich people getting upset why others are rising as well. lol
It is amazing to listen to no holds barred conversation from two of my favorite media persons.both excellent story tellers.Thank you for this session.
Just Right Chef.... completely agree with you....
I used to think Vir is great, until he went off the rails with the rest of the Lutyens cabal. Pity.
Talk about dynasties and discuss dynasties. The reason we get dynasties in Indian politics.
It’s not just Indian politics. There are dynasties in all the South Asian countries. There are small and big dynasties even in the oldest democracy, the USA. Same with China.
You need a leader to take you from 10 to 100. And you need a different leader to take you from 100 to 10000
I don't understand why Shekar is wasting time with a biased person like Veer. I avoid reading him because he is highly disgusting and is a great support of tukde tukde gang.
Gupta ji, is it your case that children of Politician don't qualify to enter politics. Sanghvi ji secularism (सर्व धर्म समभाव) is in psych of majority of Indian. And be rest assured that India will remain secular till Hindu remain in majority. It is touted that India is secular because of Nehru. I agree with Sanghvi that no one can be neutral.
His entire knowledge circle starts from Rajiv Gandhi and ends on Rajiv Gandhi ,more I hear these journo brought up by congress ,more I wonder on their capabilities and IQ level
Throwback to the good old times 👌
Criticism from abroad should be listened to calmly but not taken seriously.
Sir None of the Indians say anything against Manmohan Singh the Finance Minister. But everybody speak against Man Mohan Singh the Prime Minister. Because Our expectation from Dr Man Mohan Singh the Prime Minister was more as we had enjoyed the benefit of him being the Finance Minister providing us this life which I as a child may have only dreamt of or seen in some movie. When Manmohan Singh was the finance minister then Gandhi Family's interference was not there on Indian Politics and that is why they could deliver but during his Prime ministerial tenure he was hand cuffed so that he cannot take any action, his mouth was taped so that he cannot speak and he was made a puppet which people of India could not accept and that is the reason of BJP's growth. You people are the intellectuals to whom we looked at in the 90s. So think sincerely and if possible discuss internally if not publicly "is Indian voter angry on Congress or on the Gandhis".
Would loved to know what Vir Sanghvi has to say now, on Congress's religious ideologies, after Salmaan Khurshid's latest book launch!
upleasement and upliftment are two different things and should not be mixed in each other to confuse people. first one ruin people by making theim mentally handicapped, while the other one improve the confidence and sense of belonging.
Half neo rich middle classes in any country promotes more jingoism, glorification of past etc... It's history of pre world wars Europe, USA.
Only after calamity like war or suffering other disasters people begin to see wisdom.
You are making the same mistake as lutyens media. Watching BHARAT with a European lens. European Nationalism and philosophy is radically different from the India's.
Achcha hai.
Vir,
Your sound ancient nostalgic about when you started. Today’s environment is different. There is no need to decry it. You may be outdated.
Manmohan Singh did fiscal reforms whatever because of IMF & World Bank. If it was not Manmohan Singh, other Finance Minister in 1991-92 would have done it mandatorily.
When someone is too jealous about another person's achievements, he will go any extend.....
The credit goes to P.V. Narsimha rao....He was a Bharat Ratna candidate.
@@AmitKumar-wq4lu The current one should learn from PVNR on how to run a govt
Coming to dynasty, when did an ordinary Indian did not feel proud of the connections, how much remote they may be? The old word nepotism has now become "connections" and we were proud of it always. Dynasty is in our psyche.
A mutual admiration club of has beens
SG is not a ‘has been’ by any standards
A dying breed of those willing to stand up for what is right and decent....not has beens by any stretch. Sad that these two national treasures are so easily discounted while the likes of Arnab or RSS or Malvika are worshiped.
And shekker ji I would have never believed you if you have told me you were younger than vir ji before this interview....
Very Insightful Interview.
SG should do some booking on books(old new whatever). We then get to read some good books.
Great 🙏
Both of you are well informed journalists. Can you please talk on a bit on the failure of communists in India despite so much of poverty and exploitations.
Communism is failed concept worldwide. India is no exception
Good interview ... How about inviting Vir Sanghvi to write for The Print?
Vir ji if india was not a secular nation from the begining it would have done much better in every area.
Atleast we should consider correcting that mistake now.
Greetings to the two media stalwarts, on one stage so to speak, who I have followed these past two decades. You are the best bet to address, my question. There was a time in the 1960s, my school days, when the refrain was “Oh if it is in the papers (Newspapers) then it must be true”. Alas! We can’t sat the same about the media these days - the reasons for this media decadence and reduced confidence in it are many and recognized.
What can the media do to regain the lost confidence?
Media should start asking tough questions from its leaders specially godi media, even if the proposal seems good media should find fault in law and make govt amend it, don't spare politicians
@@Vizorfam what about media un congress time , why rajiv closed water, electricity if indian express , why newsprint paper quotes were controlled to control news papers . See Hindustan times with Mr Dua as editor , NDTV especially 2004 to 2009 , this happened in every era . Just read why 1st amendment of our constitution took place as there was a news magzin ee from kerala was one of the reason . Also just check the benefits editors and other press people from various goverments to judge . It is very easy and conveinant to put light on others by calling "Godi Media" . Every editor and media person all over the world has a "Godfather" . Do not fool yourself . Just see from 1980 to till date you will get your answers . Read India today of 1985 and see who was "Godfather" just an example .
@@Vizorfam DB I endorse that SG has come into his own and exudes class. I would not have said that of him before he started The Print. The print has varied programmes with the intention of disseminating information rather than trying to influence.
Having said that, in my comment I did not mean that the media should just keep asking questions for the the sake of exhibiting “free speech”. In China nobody can ask Qs, so the Govt goes ahead and does what it wants. China is far ahead than many of the advanced democracies in its economic outlook. The other extreme is excessive freedom when nothing constructive can happen as questions are raised and protests are held for anything and everything. I wonder whether the Nation is aware that India has a reputation of being a laggard democracy, with no progress as it should have We do not want to be another China without any freedom, so to speak. Neither do we want to be a democracy where only questions are raised.to impede progress.
Media has to always present a balanced view. The Print is close to doing it.
Vir Sanghvi can be easily destroyed.... Let him just debate with me once.
How many people have been to the Doon School that Sanghviji mentions ? I don't believe people are angry at Doon schoolers. Only a few 1000 went there in the entire history of Doon and how does that matter ? What matters is Sanghviji belonged to the ecosystem which was very powerful and did rub each others back and looked down upon others. Today due to social media the field of expression of our thoughts have become much more democratized than it used to be back then. So suddenly Sanghviji feels this middle class hates the older middle class. There is no such hatred. People are tired of the narrative that has been pushed down their throat for 70 years by the Congress-Left govt at center. And people like Sanghviji and other journalists and historians specially have perpetuated some myths as reality. Now the younger people are seeing that "there is more to the story than what these sol called older middle class people" wanted them to know.
“Not necessarily a good way” was a rank give away! Not an impartial media after all? Lest probably some peers may not like the comment?
That's a new low ,vir Sanghvi. Some of us (I am from lower middle class -dont own a car yet)
are fed up with your rotten elitist secular fantasy. Secularism is when majority(here Hindus)stay shut. When Hindus question it's fascism, communalism.
Well that normally works in a lot of democracies,not when you live in a forced secular state where the most conservative/fundamentalist far right (Muslims) are in an alliance with the ultra radical left and elite liberals like you. How elitist classists like you preach about humanity is beyond me.
As long as you describe some tv channel as 'Ravan channel' and highlight your political bias excessively, while downplaying or blacking out good things done by political dispensations not to your likings (as perceived by us) your chances of getting subscription will perhaps be limited. Public are not so blind as not able to see through the agendas of (big as well as small) news houses .
I am 76 years old and stopped buying news papers years ago in disgust, after seeing printed news in such a distorted and biased fashion.
Your analysis is good and I listen to it sometimes. But I shall subscribe (by paying) your channel happily , when you present news in a somewhat balanced fashion.
Today I am happy with news headlines and some internet news portals available online.
I agree, newspapers(print) industry is in trouble. Electronic media is in a somewhat better position.
Today, I can choose news to my liking, not chosen or highlighted by you. So you are in trouble.
It is a pain to see how newspapers, even tv channels , black out negative news or incompetence of governments, for fear of loosing advertisements.
PLEASE DO A BOOK LAUNCH WITH J Sai DEEPAK
It is outright hypocrisy if Suniel Jakhar got carried away with the notion of him even being seriously considered for CM of Punjab. Only a sensible Jat Sikh can be a CM of Punjab and give it stability. Else militancy will return in the state.
We don't pay for gmail. We have to check multiple sources, including pak channels to make informed opinion
Is this guy (Sanghvi ) , the same person who was also part of Radia tapes ?
Damn , if this guy is a journalist den anyone can become journalist
2 of the most senior journalists, ans one I have lit of respect for, saying things thats surprise me coming from them. No congress leader, not one, believes EVMs are responsible for their failures. And it does take the political acumen of an editor to know this.
Even fewer respect Rahul Gandhi deep inside but are too incompetent to say that. Billi ke gale mein ghanti kaun bandhe.
While Mr Gandhi’s lack of charisma may have taken Congress down, its the sycophancy of the top leaders taking it into a freefall.
Why only Manmohan Singh why not Narasimha Rao who really moved us away and made us a market economy .