How Apple Created A Billion Dollar Market For Dongles
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2021
- If you bought a computer or a phone in the last 5 years, you know what a dongle is. Apple, Belkin and other accessory companies have created a huge market for these dongles, which is estimated by Facts and Factors to bring in more than $25 billion by 2027. But with wireless tech constantly on the heals of adapters like these, companies that once made most of their money on dongles are investing in the future of device connections.
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Apple Created A Big Market For Dongles
Apple: We got rid of the ports to save the environment.
Truth: We wanted to make it look slick and also charge extra for items for people who need it. ( But really charge extra)
They wanted to sell the solution to a problem they created. Sounds like greed to me
@@vincent.416 exactly what I’ve been saying.
Some people will complain about a laptop being 200-gram heavier, Yet be perfectly fine carrying a 500-gram dongle to have full access to all the functionality on something they already spend 1k+ plus on !
What kind of dongle is 500 g?
@@peter_smyth A complete one! 🤣
I bought a dell xps 15 back in 2018 and I realized how much they sacrificed for it to be thinner. If I was worried about size I would've gone for a 13 inch or smaller laptop. The biggest problem is overheating. When they make them really thin, the cooling system sucks and it'll get hot doing anything. So I learned how to build a pc and Ive never been more happy just having a good pc and only use my laptop when I'm not home but anything intensive I save for my desktop.
Laptops have always been gimmicky in that way.
@@mr.marketoriginal3808 Hihihi . . . And make sure it will do its job and will be functioning well!
When people say "dongle" so much it doesn't even sound like a word any more
That happens with all words.
Semantic satiation
@@kendelion kinda suggestive
It is a real psychological phenomenon that is literally in your head but figuratively not just in your head
Sounds like a fancy word for male genitalia
They stopped including charging bricks and headphones supposedly in the name of the environment. Yet, they've created a market that didn't need to exist for all these dongles. Notice how all these "environmental" moves seem to also conveniently make them money??
If they really care about the environment. Then they should stop selling disposable products that are intentionally hard or impossible to repair or service.
Just like they claim that to protect your privacy, they will lock up your hardware so repair shops cannot repair your Apple stuff.
Umm, no. The ports started to disappear because people wanted lighter and thinner laptops, but failed to realize that that meant something had to go. Like non removable batteries, people wanted waterproof phones, but failed to realize thats what they had to sacrifice
@@FPSMartin yes but there are thin laptops out there that a totally modular and come with more useful ports when compared to a Macbook pro.
The dell XPS and some of the Samsung ultra books are super thin but fairly modular and repairable and come with more ports like HDMI and USB A.
Furthermore I understand the water proofing argument but didn't Samsung make a business phone called the X Cover which is water proof with a removable battery. I believe if they want to, they can
@@Tanget360 well to be fair facebook hates Apple because of the new App Tracking Transparency feature that just came out.. 😂
They push everyone to start using the same port so we have fewer adapters being created in the first place. If they get rid of lightning it will severely reduce the variety, eventually killing the adapter market altogether in theory. Short term pain for long term gain environmentally, although time will tell if they swap them again in a year or two or whatever
As an IT guy I can confirm this is completely rampant, even with major Windows retailers.
You buy a laptop nowadays and you get one HDMI out, and one USB-C. No RJ-45 network jack either.
It's savage, and a good dock costs over 100 bucks.
Don't forget non-upgradable soldered RAM and some cases even SSD no upgrades.
Not accurate for PCs. There are a few on the market that may be close to what you describe, but most have better connectivity.
@@colimear PCs as in "desktops" yes, laptops no.
@@gubzs Maybe you're looking at 11 or 13 inch ultra lightweight models? Any decent 15 or 17 inch laptop has plethora of connectivity options. Besides, users needing second HDMI on a laptop is such a miniscule number. Especially if you also have USB-C. Vast majority of laptop users don't even use one external monitor.
I’m ok with USB-C, but they shouldn’t have just gotten rid of the other necessary ports so quickly.
They just got rid of it because of money they didn’t care about anything else lol
there are rumors that the next macbook pro is reintroducing some of those ports. if true, it will be interesting to see what it means for companies making dongles.
So true lol
This obvious, but USB C thunderbolt (the only really useful usb c) was an Intel innovation, not Apple. Apple has traditionally only forced proprietary interconnect standards .. firewire, lightning .. need I go on ? Apple stealing another tech company's thunder .. how brave and different !
@@CulturedThugPoster Thunderbolt is a standard. Apple using it is not "stealing" lol. You should be glad they went with the standard instead of inferior proprietary solution.
create a problem, sell the solution.
Most innovative from Apple
That is the perfect business plan :-)
100%
Basically the US Industrial Military Complex
I'm only 31 and already I'm thinking "back in my day they called it an 'adapter'", lol. EDIT: HAHA, right after the thought @3:00, they switch over to the old word "adapter". People and words, lol.
I much prefer an adapter to a "dongle," it almost sounds improper.
I like to think adapters are a single brick, direct to device dongle where dongles are multi use and multi ports, mostly with the "tail"
I used adapter for one and a dongle for many.
I don't know how dongle ended up being the word used to describe adapters, but dongle is a word that predates you by a decade. It came into use when copy protection schemes for software started using hardware that you had to plug in.
@@MarcusTheDorkus so by the original meaning, adapter makes more sense, right?
Apple: we took out the phone charger to save the environment
Also Apple: so many extra dongles and accessories you need that'll end up in landfills!
Dont forget the separate packaging for all of those dongles
It could seem a reason, but given the cable included in new gizmos is usb-c to apple I think the just wanted to sell the charger separately
Most users don't even use the ports lol
I’ve never thrown a dongle out nor a charger. They’re valuable.
@Hai Boai shut up
The only decision Apple got wrong was to remove the SD card slot. I don't understand how we are still complaining about USB-C for other aspects though. This one port can handle 100W of power, 4K to 6K Displays, 40GBPS bandwidth, and a reversible connector.
Consumers should wake up and refuse to pay more for less
You can just buy a pc. I buy macs because I don’t need the dongle.
It's too late man
@@houghwhite411 right!
Consumers are dumb, particularly the Apple crowd. It’s a cult-like mentality, similar to Tesla, where they can do no wrong. I say this as an owner of a MacBook and IPhone 6S, my first and most likely last Apple products.
CNBC is like the internet explorer when it comes to news
Dongle
4:06 he says 2019 model lol
One day I’ll be able to NFT my original iPhone USB cable as a collectible 😂
LOL
My new M1 Macbook Air has 2 USB-C ports, and nothing else.
The only accessory I have that I can use without a dongle is the charging cable.
If I had the option to have this laptop be 5 times thicker and a pound heavier, but also even a single USB-A, HDMI and SD card slot, I'd happily make the trade.
That's exactly what people don't understand
Type c thunderbolt is indeed a good port Everyone likes to see the slim laptops in the apple store right ?
Well when you are using the laptop to get some work done which requires you to plug in a usb pen drive what would u do then
Often we the consumers while buying go for form over functionality
While it's always been functionality over form
I also have the m1 macbook air and I will say I've made my setup work pretty well. I have a dongle, but I dont always use it. My mouse is bluetooth and the two ports are used for charging and my 4k external display. Then my speakers are plugged into the headphone jack. I really only have to use the dongle if I want to transfer files from an SD card to my external hdd which doesn't happen very often. Overall, I like having the versatility and thin laptop.
@@MisterFakeGinger It's possible to have a setup that does not frequently require a dongle. And honestly, this isn't even too bad if you're coming into the world of computers from a fresh start, although you're probably going to need to get more expensive stuff if you only get products that are USB-C compatible. I didn't even know there were USB-C monitors (but I'm glad to see they're becoming a thing.)
Without a dongle, I cannot use any of my monitors, any of my mice, any of my flash drives, my SD cards, printers, scanners, or any of my external hard drives. I can't use the vast majority of my video game controllers, or even the adapters that would allow me to use them. Heck, I couldn't even charge my iPhone without buying a new cable, but ironically, my new Android phone uses USB-C, and is one of the few devices I can connect directly. I could connect any of these things to my previous, low-end laptop without issue, and add internal components as well.
As an existing computer user purchasing a Macbook Air, I've got a choice to either fork over a bit of extra cash for a dumb looking dongle and keep it on hand most of the time, or buy all new hardware to replace all of these things. The dongle is the obvious choice, but it basically means the computer is $30 more expensive than the advertised price, and I've got an extra doodad to hang on to.
Also, you mentioned you like having the versatility, but that's precisely what modern Macbooks are missing. If you like it thin, great. I'm legitimately glad you like it. But from my perspective, I can't think of a single instance where the size difference between my previous 15" HP Pavillion and my 13" Macbook Air has worked out in the Macbook's favor. If anything, the larger screen was a benefit.
Don't dingle my dongle!!
Why does “adapter” not suffice for what these products are?
"adapter" is so "90s"
Hi, a dongle will have more going on inside it than an adapter, which may just change the size of the plug or the number and orientation of the pins.
@@jonathanjohnson8376 Not necessarily. You can have an active adapter. "Converter" would be an alternative option. Technically "transformer" would also work, but that's likely to be confusing since "power transformer" is implied when talking about transformers in the context of electronics.
@@Senhordaverdadeabsol Dongles have been around since before then.
@@jonathanjohnson8376 What about an internal wifi adapter for my pc, that has a lot going on inside it.
This video just helped me confirm that I should just buy a new SSD for my 2010 Mac Book Pro. I really considered a new MacBook. But I’m not trying to spend 300 additional dollars on accessories on top of 1500 to 1600 dollars for the computer itself!
Why not? A new computer with less features and if anything goes bad you loose all your data. Sound like a great idea
Get the new SSD.
And something that becomes doorstop when accident happens and accident do happens
I added an SSD to a 2010 MacBook Pro years ago. It didn’t help out much given how slow and outdated the Core 2 Duo is. Just get a refurbished M1 MacBook Air for $850.
@@0neofthem but an ssd will still make it much faster even with a core duo procesor.
This is why i just use a pc.
Hard to lug a tower onto a plane
How dare you spend half the money to make a faster, longer lasting and more versatile machine
I've never used a dongle with any of my laptops and I've never owned an Apple product....I think those two facts are related somehow lol
@@StrikeFreedom1920 I have a dongle with my laptop, of course I run multiple monitors when I travel
And this is why there’s a market for mini pc to push you into it
This video is filled with a few errors. Does anyone like review these before they are uploaded?
*Who else is watching and reading comments at the same time 😊*
Bitcoin is The future, lnvesting in it now will be the wisest thing to do especially with the current rise
2021 online stock market is just difficult and unbelievable, l rather invest my money on crypto
For real it's true, This could be the wisest word l've heard, you got my points 👍
Nice words, Yes especially with the current Rise 😉
Bitcoin investment is great unlike the stock market and other financial Bitcoin has no centralized Iocation since it's operates 24 hours a day in different parts of the world
We at apple try to make our products as minimalist as possible so we can get even more money by selling overpriced dongles on top of selling overpriced products.
(Sad Tim Cook noises)
"We want to save the environment so we remove the chargers from our phone, but we also change our charger so your previous charger will not work. Which means you have to buy the new one separately and we'll use another box. See we're brilliant.
Apple does not make a lot of money selling dongles. That's mostly left to third parties like Belkin. Apple would prefer if the industry got with the program and started shipping USB-C cables. In many cases, it's literally just changing the cable the device uses. When the connector is built in, you just have to change the terminator on the cable. The electrical signals on USB-C are backwards compatible with USB-A. So this is really just inertia preventing us from moving to a dongle-less future.
To be fair no one buys Apple dongles😂 companies like Anker and Belkin make money from dongles
Who is buying original apple dongles?
@@izrailas apple nerds
I don't know who, but someone actually needs to hear this, you've got to stop saving all your money. Venture into investing some, if you really want financial stability
Beautifully said, I tell my folks these words everyday. It's good to save money but most people don't understand the market moves and tend to be misled in facts like this and always depend on money in the bank.
Pure wise comment.
I understand the fact that tomorrow isn't promised to anyone, but investing today is a hard thing to do because i have no idea of how and where to invest in these?
@@brianhamm2733 Hey, this is a computer age. Peeps who aren't even traders make money from the crypto and forex markets ,how many millionaires do you know who have become wealthy by investing in savings accounts? I rest my case.
Very helpful, this is what I needed to hear today
So the founder and CEO of iFixit uses a 2012 MacBook? Yeah, that makes sense
But it is also a solid device. I use the 2014 MacBook Pro every day, and it's still faster and better than some new $800 Windows laptops.
@@huckleberryfinn6578 The best macbook pros are 2012, 2013, 2014. They are just tanks
@@houghwhite411 I'm typing this on my Mid 2012 cMBP. I love having all the ports, and hell even the Optical Disc (I still prefer to buy music I like on CD's so it still gets used). Eventually I'll upgrade, but This laptop isn't going anywhere. It's the best one I've ever owned. Still have the original battery that lasts hours, I upgraded the RAM to 16GB and swapped the HDD for a 1TB SSD. Still a solid machine really.
@@huckleberryfinn6578 yeah no, I really think you haven't even used a $800 dollar windows laptop. My 2018 MacBook pro with the i5 runs slower than them ryzen 7 or the newest gen i7s at that price range so don't tell me those extremely slow 4th gen intel are faster than 11th gen intel and ryzen much less the 2018 pro
Techmeout got featured. 👏🏽 👏🏽 I love her.
who?
@@rollover36 the female RUclipsr they showed did you watch the vid ?
👋🏾😁
Yeah and this is one of many reasons why I will never buy Apple products.
Same here
Because the iPhone uses a proprietary port? All the other products use USB-C so it doesn't make much sense to make a blanket statement like that when most of their other products use standardized ports. Being able to use a USB-C to USB-C cable for everything is amazing. Everything I own uses USB-C except for my iPhone unfortunately. However, the only dongle I have is a USB-C to SD card reader for my desktop PC.
@@mxdanger the blanket statement (as you called it)is justified
Every dongle needed should be standard with the apple product of which you're buying- periodt!! That's how you change the game
They nickel and dime the consumers- some may call it genius- and I call them crooks
@@mxdanger it's because you need a stupid dongle to begin with.
No professional photographer, IT person, musician etc was thrilled with that garbage 2016-2019 series of Macbook Pro. Terrible keyboards, usb c ports that would get loose and break, flexgate (look it up on Louis Rossman's channel) etc.
No one wants to carry around a stupid dongle. UsB-C is awesome, but a large majority of all USB devices still are USB A. Most thumb drives, most scanners, most printers etc and the huge added expense and inconvenience of dongles and Thunderbolt docking stations.
Apple removing USB-A, SD card support, HDMI and Ethernet was a cash grab plain and simple.
Now they are rumored to be bringing back SD cards and HDMI back to the M2 MacBook Pros.
@@MrHammer2088 That isn't included *so* they can sell it to you at a markup. Kind of like the razor and blades model, but not even necessarily.
I used to work in a repair shop. My boss had all the plans to do dongles. It's very complicated to make. For me it would be a lot of patience and time. But he had clients that asked him to solve a problem and it's what he did. I don't know if he called it dongles or maybe MacGyvers LOL. This guy was really a geek. He was doing this back in 2000. Before probably anybody. The thing that was so weird it that he had all the plans. Like how do you get this stuff? The internet back then was not like it is today. You could not find it online. Do not get me started with the speed and the sound. I had time to make a coffee.
Did you make a coffee?
@@animo9050 Well I could. There was a lot of dust. I would prepare for him. Me I would not drink it. The maid was fired during the last century I think.
Believe me, it was transparent what they were doing from the beginning. And we’re all disgusted
Disgusted or enthusiastic, your dollars all look the same to them 😄
Docking stations have been around for decades (look at the Thinkpad), you can put one at the home and another at the workplace. This means you'll only need a dongle when you travel or work at a coffee shop.
The use case for Laptops is to be mobile otherwise you can use a normal PC
@@kingka6184 Not everyone is "fully mobile", especially with COVID. And for a lot of people "mobile" means bringing the laptop to the workplace and then back home. It doesn't eliminate dongles, but a dock will clear up a lot of clutter on your desk. Nothing is stopping you from carrying a dongle inside your bag, just in case you need it.
You can't bring a normal PC to work everyday.
@@Avantime Still, the lack of usable ports on a Macbook is definitely a step back. Thankfully, they've gone back to a usable keyboard or I might have had to switch back away from Apple. The dongle thing is annoying but not quite as annoying as Windows.
It's unfortunate that laptops now suffer from the same fate as smartphones when it comes to portability. Having just one port on a laptop for data transfer has never been good enough. Even on smartphones, the lack of 3.5mm audio jack now requires dongle use and it's crap. Going wireless is not an ideal situation either. That is why in smartphone world, I'm only looking at Sony, LG, and more recently ASUS.
Exactly. Even if in theroy Thunderbolt/USB4 is fast enough with it's PCIE lanes, it requires so many adapters that it's an inconvenience. And yes, Thunderbolt can run GPUs that can run modern games, so the bandwidth should be there. And wired will always be faster.
Same here, Chinese brand phones Huawei and Xiaomi. My next laptop, will be Asus.
This trend leaves any Theatre Sound/Visual Technicians quivering in fear at the customer turning up with a computer with no headphone jack or display output. We (school theatre I used to work at) genuinely had a stock of dongles for almost any type of laptop, but it's always getting raided because, guess what, people (teachers) always lose theirs and take ours when we're not looking. It's all well and good for old grandma who doesn't know the difference between HDMI and CAT5 having one port, but in business it doesn't slide very well.
Correction, the USB C ports are not "rebranded" to Thunderbolt 3. Thunderbolt 3 is an Intel standard for a high power-transfer/data-transfer USB port. There are things it's capable of that other USB C ports are not capable of.
"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli."
wow a marine biologist!
Is that a Titleist?!
@@virsensingh7066 I don't think so
My dongle wasn't working 😳, luckily there is a blue pill for that 😁
I thought mine stopped working. Turned out, I just needed to upgrade. Apparently, my old spouse was obsolete and needed to get a newer model.
“Dongle dongle dongle dongle”…yeah that doesn’t sound right 😂
At least they didn't name it a dingle
that's why thinkpad still thinkpad.
I think wired devices can ensure connectivity and signal.
it is easy to have interfering from the EM field for wireless stuff as well as the latency issues.
think about why ur ATM is wired and ur network is using fiber - stable and safe
I have never understood the appeal of a thinner laptop if you still have to car a dock/cables/dongles. Personally I would prefer a slightly heavier/thicker laptop but then that's the only thing I have to carry (and buy). I'm not a big laptop person in general though so perhaps my sentiment is rare among laptop users.
I agree 100% and I use a macbook pro every day. I appreciate having a thunderbolt connector where I can connect everything at once, but a couple of USB-A and an HDMI port would make my life easier and I would happily sacrifice a few mm in thickness to get that.
Using a lenovo laptop which is new and has all necessary ports because I believe laptops are tools for utility and not some fashion statement!
it's not just about thinness, its about creating a universal cable for EVERYTHING. but boomer keep getting in the way of this adoption like always making the transition more difficult than it should be.
realistically we don't need HDMI, display ports, 3.5 mm jacks, USB A, SD card readers.... none of those. Only thunderbolt ports which would bring even more benefits than just less cables if adopted by everybody.
@@a-don13 whatever. Most peripherals don't even have usb-c variants yet. I buy hardware to do actual work and not to make a statement about some standard that will be obsolete before it's even adopted. I actually like thunderbolt usb-c ports but I only need one... For a dock that has useful ports on it.
So happy you talked to tech me out!
Good information and I enjoyed the updates on the tech business. 😃
or just use a desktop pc. how often do you actually have to travel with your computer anyway?
Just because you don't doesn't mean others do. I myself always bring my Windows tablet around.
Depends on your job
Remember when all these features where actually built into the device.
Ahhh, that’s what it is. My wife says I have a “Micro Dongle”!!
You're a sad case, not even funny
Seasoned IT professional here. The dongle industry is necessary for sure, but also super inflated and propped up artificially. In most scenarios, you only "need" a dongle so companies can force additional sales of ports and functionality that should have been included in the first place. You can have a thin laptop with varying ports no problem. Bare minimum should be two USB-C, one USB-A, SDXC, Ethernet, HDMI (or mini), and DisplayPort (or mini). But what do I know?
Absolutely love this!
Seeing that producer makes so much sense why media is so weird now
One could say it's just an e-waste generator.
and a packaging waste generator
For the past 15 yrs, Apple has changed the ports on each iteration of the MacBook, requiring everyone to buy new $30-40 adapter to replace the old, now out-of-date adapters... Nice
Exactly why I left the ios ecosystem
Sadly everyone in the industry is following this route because it makes more money. Even Thinkpads are loosing ports every year. I'll stick to my 2015 Thinkpad until it no longer works
4:51-4:52 When you can tell people don't really know what they're talking about😒
Why?
@@henryab2700 Thunderbold is more than just a rebrand, it has more requirements
@@kingka6184 Thx for explaining
Hot take: Dongle's are a good thing on laptops.
Before dongles there was computer docks. They provided all the same functionality a dongle does. You go into work, plug your computer in and your mouse, keyboard, internet, and monitor are all synced up with one plug. However, docks are model specific so when you get a new computer you have to get a new dock. Docks were expensive too. You can buy one dongle and continue using it from computer to computer for decades, and dongles are way cheaper.
The average macbook pro user uses their computer for work, not for games or netflix or whatever. Being able to take their laptop in to work every morning and plug it in with one click instead of a bunch of cables is quite nice. Before dongles companies would often refuse to pay for docks due to the price point so you had to pay for it out of pocket. Today the company will pay for the dongles you need for you and it just makes life so much easier.
wow very high technology. look forward for it
The way this dude 13:40 plugging in the cable is insane.
Right? How to ruin your ports, plug in like that and also shown is having heavy dongles and attachments hanging from them.
@@tetsuoshima2314 yea that hurts my feeling bro :(
Wanna talk dongles? I have my computer connected to an external graphics card via an ExpressCard connector. ;)
RIP to expresscard. Thunderbolt/USB4 is no substitute. If only people preferred function over slimness.
"Most of the 2019" was said when you where showing about 2009 at 4:11 in the video.
Yes I am trying to point out things, which shows how dedicated you guys are with your RUclips channel.
Do they proof hear what they do?
5:25 they call a mini display port a „mini DVI“
the accessories guys love this video
These devices are not dongles, they are port replicators. When dongles first came out they were provided by software companies to plug into your serial, parallel or USB port to allow the software to run on computer, essentially a hardware key to prevent software piracy. This was done to prevent users being able to use keygen software to generate software activation keys, use software keys found on the internet or use the same legitimate software key on multiple computers.
retail stores alone make a 50-65% profit margin on every accessory. sometimes even 70%!
For windows surface dock in Canada was like 380$ all in ! It connects! It works well! But why so much?
The people are themselves to blame. Why buy a dongle for $380 when there are plenty of alternatives for $50? Just because you spend $2000 on a notebook, you don't need to spend over $300 on a dongle when there are alternatives for much less.
They don’t work with the surface !
What's next, each keyboard keys are all sold separately?
We've had docks for a long time. It is pretty convenient to connect a laptop to a single spot and have everything else turn on. The dongle is just a tiny version of that.
Being in the hardware design world. It is incredibly hard to design an interface which runs at 10Gb/s or greater, something like thunderbolt. Currently it can take a whole weekend to test a chip design, when i say the design I mean the Verilog/VHDL code which defines the chip. Now as a designer, I say why make two->N different chips (HDMI 2.0 , Ethernet are going to these speeds), when i can just make one and make it really good. Sure you will have to buy adaptors, but that is the problem in the short term. USB-C looks like it will be here for the coming future and if everything goes USB-C as the receptacle this will not be a problem, just keep you adaptors. System designers don't want to change everything at once, they prefer to make changes in increments. We are currently going through the change from numerous different receptacles, to only one receptacle. To me this change is a good change. On the topic of wireless, this will never replace a wired connection. This is one of the first things you tell people who are working from home, connect the Ethernet cable. You may have "good" signal, but all the data maybe corrupted, due to interferences. You can only tell if the data is corrupted when programmes start checking the data.
I have a question....when you say hardware....like can you actually link a working hardware to solve a problem? Example can you make a flying drone to carry and spray chemicals on a farm etc
I use Fujitsu, they have everything on board.
Aren't they only sold on Japan?
Still rocking my fully decked out Lenovo T410. Hooked up to a 24' monitor. Besides high end gaming, it handles everything I need it to with no issues.
Title should say “ How Apple Amplified the Use of Dongles.” These were in massive play prior to Apple converting their devices. Lenovo, for example, expedited its use and when Apple made their MacBooks slimmer, the market for their users exploded. As a user of both Mac and PC, I used dongles massively with PCs, certain camera devices, etc. Didn’t buy a dongle for my Apple product until 2018 unlike using them for my PC in 2014.
Literally he needs a USB port, an SD card reader and a HDMI. Anker make an adapter which does this for £35. Why did he spend £200?!?
And there are cheaper ones too. Anker is Brand that is making a decent margin on those 35£
Dude made a bad purchasing decision. My Chinese brand dongle has all that and more for $32.
Because he's lying to us. His "brick" as he calls it, is a CalDigit TS3 Thunderbolt *dock*. It's capable of driving multiple 4K monitors over Thunderbolt, 10GigE ethernet, and hosting multiple Thunderbolt hard drives. Unless he was dumb enough to blow ridiculous amounts of money on high-end equipment he doesn't need (possible?) he's clearly lying to us.
And this my friends is one of the many reasons I choose not to be in Apples walled garden. $5000 richer!
They should make a superdongle with all possible connections supported, including Bluetooth.
It makes so much sense now.
You bought a $260 dongle. I found one that has all the capabilities for around $50. You said you had to get that one though. Hmm.
The only reason why it can cost so much is because it has another thunderbolt port. For him it was a complete waste of money.
The $50 dongle you’re talking about is probably USB 3.1 and not Thunderbolt. They’re not one in the same. Thunderbolt has more bandwidth, so you can support up to 2 x 4K monitors (and possibly 5K). USB 3.1 cannot.
You can connect a 4K without a dock with a cheap USB C to DisplayPort cable (~$10), but they won’t work through a regular USB 3.1 dock.
@@ryanleaf8704 Thunderbolt is worth an extra 200 bucks?
@@BluStarGalaxy Depends on your needs. For example, if you have two 4K monitors and you want to use a dock, you don't have a choice.
As surprising as it may be, $260 is not even considered out of the norm for docks. Docks from Dell, HP, and Lenovo are regularly in this price range.
Edit: This article explains the difference between USB-C dongles and Thunderbolt: www.zdnet.com/article/do-you-know-the-difference-between-thunderbolt-3-usb-c-3-1-gen-2-and-usb-c-3-1-gen-1
@@ryanleaf8704 thanks for the insight.
thinner design is not the problem, greed is the problem, I saw many companies manage to fit full fat RJ45 and USB 3 type A in the same size as macbook current form factor, without removing the awesome usb/thunderbolt plug.
That is why I never have the temptation to buy MacBook laptops. Even the Mac Mini can give more ports for way less cash. Even when counting in external monitor and keyboard, it is still cheaper than a MacBook laptop.
@@FAT8893 Indeed, I using 2012 13 inch unibody Macbook Pro because it's the last truly upgradable, less failure rate, and plain cheaper in my country.
Great coverage, you're one of the best reporters on this channel.
Flubbed the line at 4:07
Hunh. For the longest time, "dongle" meant the stupid device you had to plug in to make certain pricey software work(autocad springs to mind), in an effort to defeat piracy.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_protection_dongle
iFixit: points at headphone jack and says Microphone out
docking stations are not your average dongle, because laptops are mobile computers that can be used as desktop computers, the docking station allows you to make that switch with one connection/disconnection event. If you have all the ports in your laptops you have to unplug lots of things.
13:39 how to break a port 101
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Yeah but what about the price
I’m more likely to vlog on my iPhone 12 Pro because I can drop the footage onto my M1 Pro using Airdrop instead of taking the SD card out of the camera… which is tedious. But I use an external hard drive for my footage so I don’t have to clear out my onboard hard drive.
2009 ... 2019?
I noticed that too.
Me too
Ideal port layout...
1x usb-a
2x usbc-4
hdmi
ethernet
sd card
3.5mm headphone
I like what Apple did in combining the ethernet and power cable on the new iMac. If you could combine ethernet and the power brick over usbc that is a win. Honestly, if usbc took over 3.5mm headphones that would be a great thing. Digital signal plus power amplification would be great.
More like, if you bought a computer in the last 30 years, you know what a dongle is. My fave of all time was a SCSI to USB adapter. What a delight that change was!
Apple knows how to make money off of the little things.
Who is asking for thinner gadgets?
I would prefer a slightly thicker gadgets if I can get more battery less extra accessories.
you can get either one or another
@@Senhordaverdadeabsol but all the brand blindly follow apple and remove stuff.
I just got a laptop that has all the necessary port needed. NO dongle
hmmm... the trend for minimalism and simplicity is what made apple thrives on places like japan.... it might be actually be net positive in the long term tho. .
To summarize I still hate the fact that I forced to use dongle, yet I see value of them.
Dongles are cool if you own a cellphone and connect it to a tv. A dongle allows you to charge your phone and use a mouse and keyboard.
True that, but very few phones can enjoy such privilege.
Just buy older used tech that have the inputs you need. I use a 2012 Mac that works like new
No mention of proprietary docking stations that preceded the universal ones. Things have got better.
Nice video.
The reverse is also true... As you upgrade your laptop, your dongle or dock can stay the same for years into the future
u do know u can get a type C - mini usb kable. As long as its USB, u dont need to dongle, just a straigh cable with 2 different connectors, those are like 1 or 2 USD for short ones, its more difficult to cable analog devices
Still need adapters for many certain devices.
This was a necessary thing to move to a unified future where USB-C is the only connector
New phone cant use the old charger? That is your hero? Hahahaa Bill Burr is savage...
Nice video
The stock market been favorable and good I can say and all other options play as well but been investing in cryptocurrency, which is very profitable, am earning alot on it (bitcoin is at it boom level right now)
Crypto is new gold
I think valid argument that the market is doing exceedingly well too for this week a relative to it's past
@Nancy jackie Silver and gold are good but crypto is best
@@user-ew2vo9pz4r Bitcoin just hit 55k
These guys WON'T be happy until you can "stream" content directly onto a contact lens or better yet your eyeballs themselves through a "connection" to your optic nerves. Ugh. Go back to BOOKS on paper!
Lol have you seen “Black Mirror”
They said 2019 instead of 2009 for the mid 2009 MacBook
Laptops used to come with an expansion card slot to allow additional ports and features like adding usb ports or WiFi etc to a laptop. We didn't need to have dongles hanging off the side of the laptop.
And of course belkin is going to be in favor of fewer ports... they make money during the transition period so the more changes, updates and transitions we go through the more money they make!