I just bought a sqoe guitar and it came with this Wilkinson wov10 I believe, I’d say it’s a solid trem for a budget guitar. There’s one issue tho, it came with super low action to the point it produces buzz noise on several fret, I’ll set it up later and give an update on the screw quality.
actually you can you can use it upwards for tone and a half, you just need to remove one of the springs on the back (which is recomended in most trems out there)
Speaking from experience, I eventually started to prefer a Floyd Rose bar/mount, and the hole in the baseplate where the mount is attached on the Wilkinson is the same size, so I just put the different bar mount on there.
I've got the VS-100N on my FireFly FFST HSS. To "block" the trem rear section at string change, I use a small thickness pad of post-it notes. Works wonders.
i have this WVS50IIK that came in a harley benton fusion, had it for less than a month. Set the intonation twice. First when it arrived and then when i changed string gauges, and two of the six saddle locking screws got rounded and wont turn anymore with the allen key. Any idea if I could simply buy a VS100N and replace it with that one? apparently its way better quality. Also like 5x the price so dont want to take a chance tbh...
I have the Fusion T 25th Anniversary. How DO you adjust intonatoin when the saddles don't have springs - the back saddle screws will only move the saddles one way?
@@marmadukewinterbotham2599 well its been a while now. Let me tell you ive learnt a ton from this bridges xD the wvs50iik and the vs100n work the same way really. Id suggest before doing anything get the vs100n manual which is easier to find online. What i learnt was: Its not a labour of force, but one of love lol dont use force on any screws or you will snap them. Loosen the big allen screw first, then use the tiny one to move it either way. it does go both ways because the tiny one pushes against the bigger one to go backwards. When done tighten the big one again. If adjusting action same thing loosen the big one first. Also for anyone wondering, the VS100n is not the exact same size, even though wilkinson directly confirmed it would be. didnt have to redrill the body, but the block was bigger than the 50iik and i ended up sanding a couple mm from the cavity to make it fit. Also string spacing is bigger on the vs100n... goes from 10.5mm to 10.8mm total which does make a difference i didnt think it would. It should be much easier to get replacement screws than it is, ended up having to buy a whole trem because of snapping a couple screws.
@@Logan-zo3lj yeah from each other.. i think i got used to it by now, but its certainly quite easy on this guitar to pull the 1sr/6th string out of the fretboard and get it muted by accident
The saddle screws do not impact tone they are to lock down the saddles supposedly to increase tuning stability. Sustain blocks don’t add tone in fact pickups only respond to change in the magnetic field so the only thing that matters is what affects the string vibration in a substantial way not in a negligible way. Don’t mislead people due to your misconceptions.
Just got a Fusion III with this tremolo and I find it very stiff. Thomann says that it's probably because the springs are very new and will loosen up with use ... has anyone removed one of the springs? Wondering if it will affect tuning stability...
It’s the smoothest Tremolo I have ever used especially if setup correctly. I use 9-42 and only 2 springs floating with slight upward tilt resulting in a smooth operating trem. 5 springs mounted to the body is BS and it feels like having a tug of war with a rhino.
New subscriber here.... Doing my research here, will one of these Wilkinson tremolo systems fit on a 2021 Squier Stratocaster Affinity HH guitar??? I mistakenly purchased a tremolo block for my Squier Stratocaster to increase the sustain and hopefully add to the value of it, the replacement block that I bought will in no way fit. So now I'm stuck with a useless extra tremolo block and the same factory tremolo system. ANY info that you or anyone else reading this could provide would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
Dude, is there any way to put a tremolo or something on a hard tail bridge? I have a dinky hardtail i fucking love i just couldnt afford a guitar with a floyd so i wanted to see if i could hook it up. Please let me know, thanks dude
Hey brother. Of course there is. Some that come to mind are bigsbys, and kahler tremolos. Obviously there are body modifications that go with it. Is your dinky a string through design hardtail? Tell me more about
what size allen key do you use to unlock the bridge? I was intonating yesterday on a new used Laguna en322 guitar I bought and the torx I had started slipping. Looks to be the same exact bridge as yours. Went to the store and bought a sae and metric allen key set and the 1.5mm, 2mm, or 1/16" dont work. I need something between 1.5-2mm or smaller than 1/16" any recommendations?
I have to shout a gripe on the one I have. Identical. It came with my fusion T Hh fnt Harley benton. 4 years later stays in tune and great trem but...the plate will get little grooves on high e like a little burr cut out from string tension bending over the years. So the base plate could be better made. Now it breaks e strings. Took a close Pic and vid to show it on my FB page but may upload to RUclips. I hope it's only mine doing this but I doubt it. Otherwise it's a killer trem.
This is super helpful I don't know anything about trems but want to start experimenting with them. I just got a new guitar and find the sustain to be lacking. This might help in the infinite sustain journey. That is without an ebow. lol
Non recessed? Tremolos are not recessed, the recess is not a function the unit it is a function of the guitar body routing. Plenty of guitars have non locking tremolos on a recessed body, Charvel DK 22/24 for example.
Nope, The FAT trems are a 74mm spread between the bolts same as a Floyd. I have seen guitarist use the newer Schaller single locking Floyd or the roller bridge they make. They are both supposed to be drop ins for Floyds. Take a look at their web page or look at Guthrie Govan's Charvel model. That is what he uses now that he stopped using the locking trem. I agree the whole lot of the early SA ibanez SAT, FAT10, FAt 20, Fat pro were junk. I just blocked mine off. I am assuming you have some variant of an Ibanez SA, SAS guitar. I don't recall them using that horrendous trem on anything else.... But maybe they did. The guitars are beautiful and have nice fendery necks, I love the way mine sounds and looks... I have a 2008? SAS-360 bubinguh? top ...The extra S at the end denotes Set-Neck. It actually has many more numbers and letters after that. Ibby has the weirdest naming codes... I think they just play into it now because they've been called out for it for years and it just keeps getting more crazy.
@@KaosII1968 I've done some further investigation into it, and you are definitely correct- the Schaller or the Floyd (non-fine tuner, in my case) are my only options. Think I'll go with the Floyd. Thank you for your detailed response!
@@KaosII1968 Oh, and my guitar is an Ibanez RG120. One of the best budget guitars I've ever owned...just needs a couple of upgrades (the bridge first and foremost).
@@simonpsychosis2812 Glad I could help out. As I was writing you I was thinking how the hell do I retain information on such weird things. I actually have an RG 120 body that I hydro dipped like 15 yrs ago and just never finished. Anyway good luck finishing yours hope it turns out nice.
WVS-50K has a 63mm post width that fits Squire Standards/Deluxes. The WVS-50IIK has a 54mm post width. If they make a 50K with 54mm posts I haven't seen one.
Wilkinson trying to re invent the wheel. Terrible system of screwed in saddles that aren't spring tensioned which makes intonation and action adjustments extremely awkward. The standard strat trem is universally accepted for a reason. This is over-complicated junk, with all due respect.
I really want to try one of the Wilkinson Floyd type bridges!!
Me too!
@nikaxeguitar Great to learn about this and that HB uses them.👍
Do you have a video on the tremolo stabilizer?
I just bought a sqoe guitar and it came with this Wilkinson wov10 I believe, I’d say it’s a solid trem for a budget guitar. There’s one issue tho, it came with super low action to the point it produces buzz noise on several fret, I’ll set it up later and give an update on the screw quality.
actually you can you can use it upwards for tone and a half, you just need to remove one of the springs on the back (which is recomended in most trems out there)
Hi,can it fit on Jackson js22 dinky arch top.
Speaking from experience, I eventually started to prefer a Floyd Rose bar/mount, and the hole in the baseplate where the mount is attached on the Wilkinson is the same size, so I just put the different bar mount on there.
Oh that’s super interesting. Thanks for that dude!
Thanks for the heads up on having to block it when you change strings. But how does one do that exactly?
I leave the old 1st and 6th strings on, replace the others, and then do the 1st and 6th.
I've got the VS-100N on my FireFly FFST HSS. To "block" the trem rear section at string change, I use a small thickness pad of post-it notes. Works wonders.
i have this WVS50IIK that came in a harley benton fusion, had it for less than a month. Set the intonation twice. First when it arrived and then when i changed string gauges, and two of the six saddle locking screws got rounded and wont turn anymore with the allen key.
Any idea if I could simply buy a VS100N and replace it with that one? apparently its way better quality. Also like 5x the price so dont want to take a chance tbh...
I have the Fusion T 25th Anniversary. How DO you adjust intonatoin when the saddles don't have springs - the back saddle screws will only move the saddles one way?
@@marmadukewinterbotham2599 well its been a while now. Let me tell you ive learnt a ton from this bridges xD
the wvs50iik and the vs100n work the same way really. Id suggest before doing anything get the vs100n manual which is easier to find online.
What i learnt was: Its not a labour of force, but one of love lol dont use force on any screws or you will snap them.
Loosen the big allen screw first, then use the tiny one to move it either way. it does go both ways because the tiny one pushes against the bigger one to go backwards. When done tighten the big one again. If adjusting action same thing loosen the big one first.
Also for anyone wondering, the VS100n is not the exact same size, even though wilkinson directly confirmed it would be. didnt have to redrill the body, but the block was bigger than the 50iik and i ended up sanding a couple mm from the cavity to make it fit. Also string spacing is bigger on the vs100n... goes from 10.5mm to 10.8mm total which does make a difference i didnt think it would.
It should be much easier to get replacement screws than it is, ended up having to buy a whole trem because of snapping a couple screws.
take the screws (a working screw from the other 4) to your local 'specialist' screw/bolt shop and buy new ones for a fiver
@@dizgil6881When you say string spacing do you how far apart the strings?
@@Logan-zo3lj yeah from each other.. i think i got used to it by now, but its certainly quite easy on this guitar to pull the 1sr/6th string out of the fretboard and get it muted by accident
The saddle screws do not impact tone they are to lock down the saddles supposedly to increase tuning stability. Sustain blocks don’t add tone in fact pickups only respond to change in the magnetic field so the only thing that matters is what affects the string vibration in a substantial way not in a negligible way. Don’t mislead people due to your misconceptions.
Did I miss the part where you installed it and dialed it in?
Just got a Fusion III with this tremolo and I find it very stiff. Thomann says that it's probably because the springs are very new and will loosen up with use ... has anyone removed one of the springs? Wondering if it will affect tuning stability...
There's a screw for this underneath the tremoloarm.
I removed the spring in the middle. Its still a bit stiff but better. Had no problems with Intonation or Tuning Stability.
Same just bought the same guitar and find the trem too stiff other that great guitar for the money, but need to adjust trem somehow
It’s the smoothest Tremolo I have ever used especially if setup correctly. I use 9-42 and only 2 springs floating with slight upward tilt resulting in a smooth operating trem. 5 springs mounted to the body is BS and it feels like having a tug of war with a rhino.
New subscriber here.... Doing my research here, will one of these Wilkinson tremolo systems fit on a 2021 Squier Stratocaster Affinity HH guitar??? I mistakenly purchased a tremolo block for my Squier Stratocaster to increase the sustain and hopefully add to the value of it, the replacement block that I bought will in no way fit. So now I'm stuck with a useless extra tremolo block and the same factory tremolo system. ANY info that you or anyone else reading this could provide would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
Dude, is there any way to put a tremolo or something on a hard tail bridge? I have a dinky hardtail i fucking love i just couldnt afford a guitar with a floyd so i wanted to see if i could hook it up. Please let me know, thanks dude
Hey brother. Of course there is. Some that come to mind are bigsbys, and kahler tremolos. Obviously there are body modifications that go with it. Is your dinky a string through design hardtail? Tell me more about
@@nikaxeguitar yeah man it's a string through. I play metal a lot so the kahler would be the way to go probably huh?
Good vid dude
what size allen key do you use to unlock the bridge? I was intonating yesterday on a new used Laguna en322 guitar I bought and the torx I had started slipping. Looks to be the same exact bridge as yours. Went to the store and bought a sae and metric allen key set and the 1.5mm, 2mm, or 1/16" dont work. I need something between 1.5-2mm or smaller than 1/16"
any recommendations?
I have to shout a gripe on the one I have. Identical. It came with my fusion T Hh fnt Harley benton. 4 years later stays in tune and great trem but...the plate will get little grooves on high e like a little burr cut out from string tension bending over the years. So the base plate could be better made. Now it breaks e strings. Took a close Pic and vid to show it on my FB page but may upload to RUclips. I hope it's only mine doing this but I doubt it. Otherwise it's a killer trem.
This is super helpful I don't know anything about trems but want to start experimenting with them. I just got a new guitar and find the sustain to be lacking. This might help in the infinite sustain journey. That is without an ebow. lol
Non recessed? Tremolos are not recessed, the recess is not a function the unit it is a function of the guitar body routing. Plenty of guitars have non locking tremolos on a recessed body, Charvel DK 22/24 for example.
Can this be used for Jackson RR Minion JS1X?
Most likely. Does your jackson have a recessed or a non recessed trem already?
rocking the short shorts !!! lol jk good vid ! mine just arrived in the mail ....peace!
4:11 HOW DO I DO THAT?
natural harmonic and go down
where can I buy harley benton guitar?
On Thomann music
can put this on my prs se custom 24?
?? What trem would fit a pacifier 112 ??
Can i install a fr arm assembly on it??
I wonder if I could replace the (awful) Ibanez Fat 20 with one of these?
Nope, The FAT trems are a 74mm spread between the bolts same as a Floyd. I have seen guitarist use the newer Schaller single locking Floyd or the roller bridge they make. They are both supposed to be drop ins for Floyds. Take a look at their web page or look at Guthrie Govan's Charvel model. That is what he uses now that he stopped using the locking trem.
I agree the whole lot of the early SA ibanez SAT, FAT10, FAt 20, Fat pro were junk. I just blocked mine off. I am assuming you have some variant of an Ibanez SA, SAS guitar. I don't recall them using that horrendous trem on anything else.... But maybe they did. The guitars are beautiful and have nice fendery necks, I love the way mine sounds and looks... I have a 2008? SAS-360 bubinguh? top ...The extra S at the end denotes Set-Neck. It actually has many more numbers and letters after that. Ibby has the weirdest naming codes... I think they just play into it now because they've been called out for it for years and it just keeps getting more crazy.
@@KaosII1968 I've done some further investigation into it, and you are definitely correct- the Schaller or the Floyd (non-fine tuner, in my case) are my only options. Think I'll go with the Floyd. Thank you for your detailed response!
@@KaosII1968 Oh, and my guitar is an Ibanez RG120. One of the best budget guitars I've ever owned...just needs a couple of upgrades (the bridge first and foremost).
@@simonpsychosis2812 Glad I could help out. As I was writing you I was thinking how the hell do I retain information on such weird things.
I actually have an RG 120 body that I hydro dipped like 15 yrs ago and just never finished.
Anyway good luck finishing yours hope it turns out nice.
This is the best trem for your money, for sure!
Fifty Two K, mate. They have a similar, cheaper model called the WVS 50K
WVS-50K has a 63mm post width that fits Squire Standards/Deluxes. The WVS-50IIK has a 54mm post width. If they make a 50K with 54mm posts I haven't seen one.
Wilkinson trying to re invent the wheel.
Terrible system of screwed in saddles that aren't spring tensioned which makes intonation and action adjustments extremely awkward.
The standard strat trem is universally accepted for a reason.
This is over-complicated junk, with all due respect.
Reverend guitars uses these trem there's a good video on YT. Thanks 💣
They use Zinc in Pennies. To cut cost. It's pot/ie. shit metal
its actually got hardened steel knife edges
These wear out fast (soft baseplate) the 100 model is much better IMO
Hey, that's the exact same tremolo that Carvin designed!
licenced?
Mantap
Bla bla bla boring
English?