Gymnasts focus on landing exactly where they started, divers need to land far from their starting point to avoid the diving board. These could honestly be considered different types of flips.
Well actually they are considered different types of flips - backward somersault is when you jump up and land at the same spot (ideally) and gainer is when you jump up and forward and do a backward somersault. In short, if you land on the spot - it's a backward flip, land upfront - gainer
As a diver, that's not true at all. You don't want to go forward at all on a reverse, and want to be a foot away from the board. Anything more than two feet and you are losing serious points for distance. The board naturally pushes you away as you jump so you actually have to put considerable effort to jump straight up and minimize the distance away you jump.
As a gymnast turned current diver and current gymnastics coach a gainer in gymnastics and a gainer in diving are the same kind of flip. A backwards salto that moves forward instead of starting and stopping in the same position. Also youre 100% wrong saying we need to try to get far from the board lmao. Divers spend years trying to learn how to get as close as possible to the board without hurting ourselves especially on blind dives like reverses.
as a former diver - no you absolutely dont on anything other than platform, and even then thats only if you’re doing a backwards takeoff and you can get deducted for landing too far away. on springboard all you should be focusing is on height because the board will take you forward regardless
Undoing muscle memory is evident, if a diver stays in place, he won't make it to the water😊 as opposed to gymnast, they depend on being able to land where they left off.
Not true. The board naturally gives you distance, so divers are more focused on staying as close to the board as they can. On a reverse dive, you are walking a fine line with jumping as vertically as you can to counteract the forward momentum of your hurdle and the board, without being so close you endanger yourself.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239but all of divers flips have forward momentum from a standing start. This is just adjusting HOW MUCH momentum. Gymnasts don’t do a flip like this that often. They are either flipping on the same spot or doing a combination with a running start on floor.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239 but you still have to focus on jumping away from the board, yes you shouldnt jump too far but they do practice stuff like this to make sure they dont land on the board
and doing both can screw you up, heard a story of a person who was a diver and a TNT gymnast and he was practicing a new flip and landed with his toes pointed as if in a dive(didnt end well at all...), and to the contrary I who trained mainly trampoline have done flips straight to my back off of the diving board cause on the trampoline staying tucked and landing on you're neck and face hurts a lot more than just staying tucked in water.
@jellydoh6169it means “No 💩, he’s black, all of the fit black people are extremely good at whatever athletics they do.” Tbh, the stereotype is kinda true at high school level.
Divers need to jump forward to avoid the platform, while gymnasts focus on landing where they started. It's interesting how different types of flips require different skills and precision.
I love watching these, it’s like ice skaters vs hockey players 😂 obviously their skills are set for different things, it’s just cool to see what they can do lol
I'm assuming the difference comes from the competing intent behind this particular move. While I can do neither sport, if the health of my skull was predicated on consistently moving in a specific direction, i HOPE to be as good at doing so! 👍
The divers have to avoid a diving platform after they jump - a gymnast doesn’t really have to worry ab that bc most of the time they’re doing a backwards flip, their momentum is already varying then forward.
it's because divers train reverse flips (that's what my dive team calls them), where you jump off the board facing forward but do a backwards flip. so you have to REALLY go forward so you don't hit the board and get hurt. gymnasts don't train that. ofc neither sport is "better", they both are amazing at what they train
@@JonathanMullany-fx1qh Some of the easier ones, like backflips, probably, but it might not feel very good. The tumbling passes they do in their floor routines, however, absolutely not. They'd likely break something trying, and the ability to rotate would be hampered. I mean, I'm sure there are parkour artists that can do some impressive flips on concrete, but most gymnasts don't train on concrete at all, and concrete has zero give. I've done back handsprings on concrete before, and even that doesn't feel good. And I was never in a good enough gym too train on a proper floor, we just had panel mats, so I can't even imagine the shock one might have going from a proper floor to concrete. Even grass is better than concrete.
@@JonathanMullany-fx1qh Absolutely not. Grass doesn't have springs. These floors are carefully crafted layers of foam and metal springs the size of an average hand.
I mean makes sense considering gymnasts are trying to stay on something or in the same spot usually while drivers are basically trying to get away from the spot they started so they don’t smash their head open
Honestly gainers were one of the hardest skills like gymnastics literally makes it feel like a wall is in front of you. Like no matter what I would do there was absolutely zero forward momentum and I’d land in exactly the same spot
Gymnasts focus on landing exactly where they started, divers need to land far from their starting point to avoid the diving board. These could honestly be considered different types of flips.
Well actually they are considered different types of flips - backward somersault is when you jump up and land at the same spot (ideally) and gainer is when you jump up and forward and do a backward somersault. In short, if you land on the spot - it's a backward flip, land upfront - gainer
As a diver, that's not true at all. You don't want to go forward at all on a reverse, and want to be a foot away from the board. Anything more than two feet and you are losing serious points for distance. The board naturally pushes you away as you jump so you actually have to put considerable effort to jump straight up and minimize the distance away you jump.
As a gymnast turned current diver and current gymnastics coach a gainer in gymnastics and a gainer in diving are the same kind of flip. A backwards salto that moves forward instead of starting and stopping in the same position. Also youre 100% wrong saying we need to try to get far from the board lmao. Divers spend years trying to learn how to get as close as possible to the board without hurting ourselves especially on blind dives like reverses.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239And if you're diving from a platform and not a board?
as a former diver - no you absolutely dont on anything other than platform, and even then thats only if you’re doing a backwards takeoff and you can get deducted for landing too far away. on springboard all you should be focusing is on height because the board will take you forward regardless
How does Ian lose every single one of these so horribly 💀
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😂😂😂
😅😅😅😂
🎉🎉🎉🎉
I don’t even know anymore😂😂
Undoing muscle memory is evident, if a diver stays in place, he won't make it to the water😊 as opposed to gymnast, they depend on being able to land where they left off.
Not true. The board naturally gives you distance, so divers are more focused on staying as close to the board as they can. On a reverse dive, you are walking a fine line with jumping as vertically as you can to counteract the forward momentum of your hurdle and the board, without being so close you endanger yourself.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239but all of divers flips have forward momentum from a standing start. This is just adjusting HOW MUCH momentum. Gymnasts don’t do a flip like this that often.
They are either flipping on the same spot or doing a combination with a running start on floor.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239what about the 10m platform? No propellement. That's literally like a backwards somersault in tuck.
@@awildfilingcabinet6239 but you still have to focus on jumping away from the board, yes you shouldnt jump too far but they do practice stuff like this to make sure they dont land on the board
and doing both can screw you up, heard a story of a person who was a diver and a TNT gymnast and he was practicing a new flip and landed with his toes pointed as if in a dive(didnt end well at all...), and to the contrary I who trained mainly trampoline have done flips straight to my back off of the diving board cause on the trampoline staying tucked and landing on you're neck and face hurts a lot more than just staying tucked in water.
Khoi always manages to land so perfectly on his feet
right!! khoi is so precise
He’s black
@@vicenterebolledo8798wym by that lil bro
@@vicenterebolledo8798 great observation, you might put sherlock holmes out of a job if you're not careful! 🤪
@jellydoh6169it means “No 💩, he’s black, all of the fit black people are extremely good at whatever athletics they do.”
Tbh, the stereotype is kinda true at high school level.
Thats some dedication, I could never do a gainer
Neither can Ian. Lol.
They’re fun in my opinion only into water or on a tramp (diver btw)
I can’t do them to save my life except on a trampoline
it's not that hard, you just have to practice it
neither could ian😢
Y'all are probably the physically healthiest group of friends in the world.
Ty
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early for ONCE also you going backwards is literally just hilarious 😭
Great warmups Khoi!😂
Of course the diver wins. Their skulls depend on that forward motion to avoid the platforms.
Khoi always seems so methodical and thinks his movements through before his attempt. Love the critical thinking
Hey Ian, just wanted to tell you that I got my full yesterday!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Congratulations!!
nice!
Let’s gooo!!! 🎉
I don’t know what this mean but congratulations 🥳🎉
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The last dude literally jumped back more than he jumped forward from the landing what a humble master at this😅
Khoi looked like he was surprised he went forward at all lol. Y'all are talented lol.
Divers need to jump forward to avoid the platform, while gymnasts focus on landing where they started. It's interesting how different types of flips require different skills and precision.
I love watching these, it’s like ice skaters vs hockey players 😂 obviously their skills are set for different things, it’s just cool to see what they can do lol
I'm assuming the difference comes from the competing intent behind this particular move.
While I can do neither sport, if the health of my skull was predicated on consistently moving in a specific direction, i HOPE to be as good at doing so! 👍
Divers gotta clear the board so they are used to jumping behind or forward a lot while gymnasts want to stick it
@@AcheronAlex yup!!
I laughed at the guys who barely made any distance, then I remembered I'm 30lbs overweight and definitely can't do a standing back flip.
I loved his reaction when Ian saw how far the lines were 😂😂
I'm convinced... gymnasts are nice people. 💙
Khoi is always so methodical!
Honestly, I’d hope that divers won that cause they need to be able to jump out like that 😂😅
Ian is the definition of task failed successfully
Ian wins for farthest (backwards) backtuck????
Gymnasts are supposed to land in the same spot as they started
it's a gainer
Love the narrative arc with the last person blowing everyone out the water ❤
bro the 4th one looks like the footballer Mësut Ozil
Divers are so cool, my favorite part of meets is when we get to sit back and watch them :)
Okay but Brenna landed in ALMOST the exact same spot she took off, that was insane
Really impressive for the gymnasts who were able to do it
Take into account any of these people pulling off a standing backflip is better than 99%+ of the world that has ever lived.
I love how the gymnasts did some recovery rolls, that was really cool
I like how you were grabbing khoi's leg to measure his feet😅
Last dude destroyed the competition
Tried a gainer for the first time yesterday, I landed on my neck. now back and chest hurt
khoi always has the strategizing/practicing before i love it
how?!?! thats actually crazy
They train for that, otherwise skill is in shambles
They gon hit the diving board if not
Two of you are best suited for working the beam, landing EXACTLY where you started from! Lol
The 5 was actually my real name
Oops the Ian was my name
@@paolalam1866cool?
The first ‘’ ahuh🤕🙋” got me dying whhaah
I kinda wanna see if the divers can stay where they started when they jumped??
this is like asking the divers to a pull up competition lol
Where's my Cayenne Peppa?😿
Grabbed his legs like he was about to escape into the woods
Im so early but Im surprised that divers won😂
The divers have to avoid a diving platform after they jump - a gymnast doesn’t really have to worry ab that bc most of the time they’re doing a backwards flip, their momentum is already varying then forward.
it's because divers train reverse flips (that's what my dive team calls them), where you jump off the board facing forward but do a backwards flip. so you have to REALLY go forward so you don't hit the board and get hurt. gymnasts don't train that. ofc neither sport is "better", they both are amazing at what they train
"do a gainnnneerrrrr" lmfao all I could think about when I heard it.
Do your feet not shock when you hit the ground?
They do a bit, but that floor is made to absorb the shock. It has a bunch of springs under it.
@@magdolyn oh i thought it was regular ground could a gymnast di these tricks on cement?
@@JonathanMullany-fx1qh Some of the easier ones, like backflips, probably, but it might not feel very good. The tumbling passes they do in their floor routines, however, absolutely not. They'd likely break something trying, and the ability to rotate would be hampered. I mean, I'm sure there are parkour artists that can do some impressive flips on concrete, but most gymnasts don't train on concrete at all, and concrete has zero give.
I've done back handsprings on concrete before, and even that doesn't feel good. And I was never in a good enough gym too train on a proper floor, we just had panel mats, so I can't even imagine the shock one might have going from a proper floor to concrete. Even grass is better than concrete.
@@magdolyn but grass would be the same as this type of floor right?
@@JonathanMullany-fx1qh Absolutely not. Grass doesn't have springs. These floors are carefully crafted layers of foam and metal springs the size of an average hand.
I wanted to see Ian turn around and do the backflip. He went so far backwards he should have turned around! 😂
Ian went the furthest, and he went around the whole world before he landed and almost lapped the others 😂
Somehow an amazingly skilled athlete always makes himself look like a horse learning to walk lol cracks me up every time.
Forward backflip is mindbending
I mean makes sense considering gymnasts are trying to stay on something or in the same spot usually while drivers are basically trying to get away from the spot they started so they don’t smash their head open
Bro as a diver/swimmer they did really good 👍
Thats further than i could jump without a backflip 😂
This makes me want to see a gymnast use a gainer to start a sequence in a floor routine.
i'm convinced ian is secretly musty
Watching the gymnast color wheel was the best for me 😂😂
I love that Ian is both an amazing gymnast and also the worst lol
That looks so fun
I was reading DRIVER this whole time lmaooo. I genuinely got surprised, like damn those drivers are pretty skilled 💀
I think I woke up my cat laughing lol
There’s a Nigerian in ur midst 😂😂😂 the Jesus at the end hit me 😂😂❤
The oOoH after "contest" lol 🤣
It’s funny they were all doing flips but that last guy jumped forward then flipped. 😂❤ big difference ❤😂❤
The last one is the reincarnation of super mario
The drawing looks so satisfying
Not bad for bro could tell it was his first time but confidence is key fr
Arun landed in the perfect sojoud position.. lol !
Also straight up kinda cheated with how they marked it wich was a surprise
He didn't beat it. He destroyed it
BRO STARED PRAYING TO GOD LOL
you are good
I’m scared doing this flip cause I remembered doing the farthers gainer flip and ended up landing on my face. 😅
The gymnasts were so confused 😂😂
The chalk on the mat is soooo satisfying
the last guy was slightly behind the starting line and STILL MANAGED TO GET THE FURTHEST?? that shi is crazyy
Bro cameraman just put a line wherever he felt like…
This was a really good video. Fun!
The hip thrust practice😂
Honestly gainers were one of the hardest skills like gymnastics literally makes it feel like a wall is in front of you. Like no matter what I would do there was absolutely zero forward momentum and I’d land in exactly the same spot
I was so invested lol
Every land sounds like the old minecraft TNT sound lmao
why is it so tempting to eat that chalk
Ian looked so defeated when he said he gave up 😭
Is NO ONE gonna talk about the moan in the beginning 🫣
Bro actually made a voice crack at the start 😂💀
He said he could beat it, and he meant that.
"i went backwards" STILL BETTER THAN MOST HUMANS
Jack just SPANKED y'all. Everyone just accept it and give that guy his well-earned high-five.
Bro went negative lmao 🤣🤣
Tried this with a friend a couple of years ago on a trampoline. Almost got paralyzed. Fun times
The distance Ian travelled is in negative m. 🤣🤣🤣
The look on your face when you went backwards 😂
Khoi be warming up for something else lol
Lmao at that "alright" after the chick went nowhere 😅
I’m gonna sound so dumb but when I saw “Jack (Diver)”, I immediately thought it was Jack Laugher.
I just realized how difficult this challenge is 😅
Last bro pressed W after jumping with Space bar
Me: Can you backflip forward?
Never knew they were called "gainers."
Jack stuck the first one. Then went farther than anyone when he realized they were counting SLOP!
ian your content is amazing and me and my level 5 teammates watch your videos
the khoi leg grip i’m sobbing
When the bois can't pick who's the Red Ranger
bro was dicking down the ghost of gymnast’s past