Do you use Dissolved Silica? Timestamps Below: Timestamps: Intro - 0:00 What is Dissolved Silica? - 0:39 Dissolved Silica VS Regular Silica - 0:52 Recipe Comparison - 4:31 What is Silica and Quartz Crystal even used for? - 6:27 Conclusion - 7:35 Outro - 8:01 Thanks for watching 👊🍺
This really could lead to quite the rabbit hole. I'm starting to see a pattern with all the recipes involving Nitric Acid. They all seem to result in very high production rates. It almost gives me a Diluted Fuel for plastic and rubber vibe.
I think every alt recipe is going to be, to a certain extent, situational. You can't really look at a recipe like dissolved silica without also looking at the Satisfactory world map. For example, most of the quartz nodes have nitrogen somewhat nearby, but the ones in the northern forest canyon don't, and the ones in the titan forest are a bit far from the nearest nitrogen. On the other hand, there's a ton of limestone around the northern forest canyon nodes, so using "cheap silica" there ends up making a lot more sense. Then on top of that there's also the consideration of what else you'll be using the nitrogen for, and whether specific wells are better placed to serve those needs instead.
Thats the big thing about the recipe options in the game, they're meant to work together with different sets of other recipes and make certain areas more or less convenient to build nearby. I think it says a lot about how much effort went into balancing everything that all the recipes have legitimate uses.
I would have never thought of using this recipe but it basically gives you free silica. Even with cheap silica and pure quartz, you still use more raw quarts to get the same amounts.
not free-free, as the only thing vaguely precious is the nitrogen gas. This would be 110% worth it if, say, you were using it as a part of a Fused Modular Frame factory and were not planning on using every cubic meter of nitrogen gas in the world
Maybe one for a future video. I recently looked at my math and the endgame base is not using very much sulfur or sulfuric acid. It was the only map resources left over and there was a lot left over. Did not want to just sink sulfur. So started looking around and found the magic of Leached Caterium. (The other Leached recipes are not as good as Pure, but in Caterium it is better). So now I am producing nearly all my caterium ingots with Leached Caterium instead of Pure Caterium recipes.
I don't know for sure if he mentions this in the video, but you can really simplify the silica-processing in the blender if you sloop the blenders to 1/4. That way the machines produce as much waste water as they need for production and can then be their own closed loop, essentially eliminating water out of the equation @TheValhallanPickle
I’ve always wondered if the recipe was worth using. And, as you say, I was also put off by how complex and time consuming this recipe looked. Still thought it would be a bit of fun calculating though.
@@TheValhallanPickle Agree and glad you did it! I think one thing that has to be considered is where you are in your playthrough. To me this is a definite late game recipe that could easily be the heart of many more advance item factories.
I'm actually considering it for a large scale quartz factory, based on 1200 dissolved, vs 600 each of pure crystal/cheap silica. I get slightly less silica (1350 vs 1400) but the quartz crystal goes way up (750 vs ~466). you also need much less water and limestone in total, and not that much nitrogen and iron. basically, if you need a bunch of one or the other, don't use this, but if you want a bunch of both, this is a maybe depending on other local resources. I see a clean setup where you feed 5 refineries H2O outputs into 4, and pipe an H2O extractor to the 5th.
Since the dissolved silica recipe needs limestone, I really think evaluating the cheap silica alternate instead of or in addition to the standard recipe for silica would have been very useful.
Once I started using this it quickly displaced other production methods for both. Whilst it generally involves some annoying belt and pipework it lets you make a central factory to supply basic components for multiple electronics factories and/or nuclear plants among others. In some areas (like rocky desert) you have other nearby nodes and you can build a rather large complex making other low tier materials to send to higher tier factories. Great choice for a vid. This is actually a really fun recipe to use if you enjoy a bit of a logistics challenge!
At scale; needing a bunch of silica for circuit boards, nuclear stuffs, and doubling the aluminum ingot process... it becomes a very nice value proposition, if you ask me.
From my own experience using this recipe: It's really good and efficient (if you don't mind the nitrogen) if you need BOTH silica and quartz. If you only need silica OR quartz, pure quartz crystal and cheap silica or the basic silica recipe are better suited.
Dissolved Silica is actually really good, it might be a complex but it produce more silica and crystal quartz even though they respective alternative recipe have a better yield per raw quartz, it isn't the case when you have to produce both of them
TLDR: If you only need just silica or quartz use cheap silica or pure quartz, however if you need both and can spare the nitrogen Quartz Purification produces more combined. Per 1 raw quartz: Cheap Silica: 2.33 (Costs 1.4 Limestone) Pure Quarts: 0.7778 (Costs Water) Quartz Purification: 1.125 Silica and 0.625 Quartz Crystal (Costs 0.0833 Nitrogen Gas, 0.02083 limestone and some water and iron)
I did end up using Dissolved Silica in my production chain and it is the majority of my crystal and silica production. It meant I could move away from Fused Quartz Crystal and put that coal to diamond production. Along with Cheap Silica using limestone meant the Distilled Silica limestone was being used at a better limestone to silica ratio. That said I do still supplement crystal and silica with the other great alternate recipes, Pure Crystal and Cheap Silica, ensuring any production hiccups are covered.
I used this recipe for my uranium processing, since I needed large quantities of both silica (Ur cells) and quartz crystal (Oscillators) Not a lot of other uses imo.
Since I recently started using silica circuit boards, it might be worth it. I'm currently only using 2 nitrogen gas wells(only one is fully used), so I can 100% spare some for dissolved silica. And then I can use quartz crystals for pink diamonds, or maybe sth else, who knows.
You should have use cheap silica recipe instead of the vanilla one, like you did with pure quartz crystal to compare with the dissolved silica ones. Anyway you still made clear if it's worth or no, like the others altrernative recipes.
I think the only place to use this is the Rocky Desert, if you get the Quartz out of the Cave to the North theirs also Nitrogen on the Beach to the North of that. Any other Nitrogen Node is too close to Bauxite to be wasted on Quartz production. And you need a lot of Nitrogen for the late game parts that also use Aluminum.
I will be honest... I never even considered this recipe. I'm sure that I saw it, but I had already set up a bunch of crystal and silica production, and it seemed too complex to bother going back. After this, I might look into it on my next play through, assuming the nitrogen is close enough.
Do you use Dissolved Silica? Timestamps Below:
Timestamps:
Intro - 0:00
What is Dissolved Silica? - 0:39
Dissolved Silica VS Regular Silica - 0:52
Recipe Comparison - 4:31
What is Silica and Quartz Crystal even used for? - 6:27
Conclusion - 7:35
Outro - 8:01
Thanks for watching 👊🍺
I think your number for Nitric Acid is wrong, it's 120 Gas to 30 Acid, so 60 Nitrogen Gas per 15 Acid in the next recipe
This really could lead to quite the rabbit hole. I'm starting to see a pattern with all the recipes involving Nitric Acid. They all seem to result in very high production rates. It almost gives me a Diluted Fuel for plastic and rubber vibe.
I think every alt recipe is going to be, to a certain extent, situational. You can't really look at a recipe like dissolved silica without also looking at the Satisfactory world map. For example, most of the quartz nodes have nitrogen somewhat nearby, but the ones in the northern forest canyon don't, and the ones in the titan forest are a bit far from the nearest nitrogen. On the other hand, there's a ton of limestone around the northern forest canyon nodes, so using "cheap silica" there ends up making a lot more sense. Then on top of that there's also the consideration of what else you'll be using the nitrogen for, and whether specific wells are better placed to serve those needs instead.
Thats the big thing about the recipe options in the game, they're meant to work together with different sets of other recipes and make certain areas more or less convenient to build nearby. I think it says a lot about how much effort went into balancing everything that all the recipes have legitimate uses.
I would have never thought of using this recipe but it basically gives you free silica. Even with cheap silica and pure quartz, you still use more raw quarts to get the same amounts.
not free-free, as the only thing vaguely precious is the nitrogen gas. This would be 110% worth it if, say, you were using it as a part of a Fused Modular Frame factory and were not planning on using every cubic meter of nitrogen gas in the world
Maybe one for a future video.
I recently looked at my math and the endgame base is not using very much sulfur or sulfuric acid. It was the only map resources left over and there was a lot left over.
Did not want to just sink sulfur.
So started looking around and found the magic of Leached Caterium. (The other Leached recipes are not as good as Pure, but in Caterium it is better).
So now I am producing nearly all my caterium ingots with Leached Caterium instead of Pure Caterium recipes.
Ha, I just created a dissolved silica setup today for the heck of it. Makes an insane amount of silica!
I don't know for sure if he mentions this in the video, but you can really simplify the silica-processing in the blender if you sloop the blenders to 1/4.
That way the machines produce as much waste water as they need for production and can then be their own closed loop, essentially eliminating water out of the equation
@TheValhallanPickle
I’m glad you did this one. TBH I looked at the recipe for all of 10 seconds and was turned off by the complexity.
I’ve always wondered if the recipe was worth using. And, as you say, I was also put off by how complex and time consuming this recipe looked. Still thought it would be a bit of fun calculating though.
@@TheValhallanPickle Agree and glad you did it! I think one thing that has to be considered is where you are in your playthrough. To me this is a definite late game recipe that could easily be the heart of many more advance item factories.
I'm actually considering it for a large scale quartz factory, based on 1200 dissolved, vs 600 each of pure crystal/cheap silica. I get slightly less silica (1350 vs 1400) but the quartz crystal goes way up (750 vs ~466). you also need much less water and limestone in total, and not that much nitrogen and iron.
basically, if you need a bunch of one or the other, don't use this, but if you want a bunch of both, this is a maybe depending on other local resources. I see a clean setup where you feed 5 refineries H2O outputs into 4, and pipe an H2O extractor to the 5th.
Since the dissolved silica recipe needs limestone, I really think evaluating the cheap silica alternate instead of or in addition to the standard recipe for silica would have been very useful.
Once I started using this it quickly displaced other production methods for both. Whilst it generally involves some annoying belt and pipework it lets you make a central factory to supply basic components for multiple electronics factories and/or nuclear plants among others. In some areas (like rocky desert) you have other nearby nodes and you can build a rather large complex making other low tier materials to send to higher tier factories. Great choice for a vid. This is actually a really fun recipe to use if you enjoy a bit of a logistics challenge!
At scale; needing a bunch of silica for circuit boards, nuclear stuffs, and doubling the aluminum ingot process... it becomes a very nice value proposition, if you ask me.
From my own experience using this recipe: It's really good and efficient (if you don't mind the nitrogen) if you need BOTH silica and quartz. If you only need silica OR quartz, pure quartz crystal and cheap silica or the basic silica recipe are better suited.
Dissolved Silica is actually really good, it might be a complex but it produce more silica and crystal quartz even though they respective alternative recipe have a better yield per raw quartz, it isn't the case when you have to produce both of them
Just bring the third conveyor of raw qaurtz, slam several constructors stack blueprints and forget about all that stuff till the end of game.
TLDR: If you only need just silica or quartz use cheap silica or pure quartz, however if you need both and can spare the nitrogen Quartz Purification produces more combined.
Per 1 raw quartz:
Cheap Silica: 2.33 (Costs 1.4 Limestone)
Pure Quarts: 0.7778 (Costs Water)
Quartz Purification: 1.125 Silica and 0.625 Quartz Crystal (Costs 0.0833 Nitrogen Gas, 0.02083 limestone and some water and iron)
I did end up using Dissolved Silica in my production chain and it is the majority of my crystal and silica production. It meant I could move away from Fused Quartz Crystal and put that coal to diamond production.
Along with Cheap Silica using limestone meant the Distilled Silica limestone was being used at a better limestone to silica ratio.
That said I do still supplement crystal and silica with the other great alternate recipes, Pure Crystal and Cheap Silica, ensuring any production hiccups are covered.
I used this recipe for my uranium processing, since I needed large quantities of both silica (Ur cells) and quartz crystal (Oscillators)
Not a lot of other uses imo.
Since I recently started using silica circuit boards, it might be worth it. I'm currently only using 2 nitrogen gas wells(only one is fully used), so I can 100% spare some for dissolved silica. And then I can use quartz crystals for pink diamonds, or maybe sth else, who knows.
You should have use cheap silica recipe instead of the vanilla one, like you did with pure quartz crystal to compare with the dissolved silica ones. Anyway you still made clear if it's worth or no, like the others altrernative recipes.
I think the only place to use this is the Rocky Desert, if you get the Quartz out of the Cave to the North theirs also Nitrogen on the Beach to the North of that.
Any other Nitrogen Node is too close to Bauxite to be wasted on Quartz production. And you need a lot of Nitrogen for the late game parts that also use Aluminum.
There's also a good spot at the north end of the dune desert
I will be honest... I never even considered this recipe. I'm sure that I saw it, but I had already set up a bunch of crystal and silica production, and it seemed too complex to bother going back. After this, I might look into it on my next play through, assuming the nitrogen is close enough.
It never seemed worth it. However, it’s decent if you’re trying to cut back on Quartz
man you are wrong with the nitric acid recipe it takes 60 nitrogen gas to produce 15 nitric acid
Also once again you forget the cheap silica recipe
Some of the numbers are wrong, Making 15 nitric acid per minute takes 60 Nitrogen Gas per minute.
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