What Happens When Rimada Figs Revert? Col de Dame Rimada vs Blanc vs Noir
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- I purchased a Col de Dame Rimada fig tree early this spring, but it appears to have lost its variegation and reverted back to a Col de Dame Blanc. In this video, I compare my Col de Dame Rimada (reverted) fig to a Col de Dame Blanc AND a Col de Dame Noir fig. How do the flavors of each fig compare?
Did you know that a Col de Dame Rimada fig is simply a mutated, variegated Col de Dame Blanc fig? Taste-wise, they're identical! Enjoy the video!
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In February and March this year I ordered several Fig cuttings. I have 2 Col de Dame Blanc 30" tall trees, so I appreciate your very good description of this fig. I have 20 different varieties that I have rooted out. I'm excited to be able to taste these different figs next year.
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@@TheMillennialGardener we're going to have a freeze tonight should I be bringing my fig trees in tonight???
@@christopherrizzo5421 how cold? Any frost/freeze will ruin the remaining fruit, but if all you care about is the tree getting injured, there is no reason to pull them in for temps above 23 degrees. Fig roots are hardy to the upper teens and the wood from anywhere from 0-15 degrees depending on variety. I say 23 degrees for container trees because I've witnessed forecast lows be off by 5-6 degrees.
@@TheMillennialGardener 31degrees
Another AWESOME video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on these great varieties!
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.
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Thanks, I did notice that. I am going to experiment with a few different channels on the transmitter to see if I'm getting some interference. My video editor does have audio tools to do that, but the audio quality was far worse. I'm going to try a few more things, but if I can't resolve the problem I'll switch it for another brand.
Congratulations on the success of your channel. Looking forward to future videos with the new equiptment. Your videos are very informative and helpful.
Thank you for watching!
I’ve let you and a couple other guys do all the hard work. 🙏 I have 16 varieties that are reported to be some of the best. Not sure how the ccd Rimada is going to do in my area but I pulled the trigger anyway.
Wonderful figs. It's great more people have joined your channel.with the new equipment we can look forward to even better videos that encompass the changing seasons. Thanks for all your hard work.
Thank you for watching. It's so appreciated. I can't do it without everyone's support.
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@@dawnb.6948 Hi Dawn, thanks for the tip !!! I have only started to grow figs this summer where I only have two plants, one is 'Brunoro Black! You can find me on Facebook.
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Thank you for watching!
Hi Peter. I have 5 small trees. 3 were given to me, I have no idea what the are. The one, my friend said it was a white fig from Italy? The other two neither friend had a clue. The other two, a Nero and a Marseille, I got from local store. I have big hopes for next year of getting figs. They are too small still.! 😉
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@@dawnb.6948 When you see what the Millennial Gardener has done with cuttings since last Winter, it makes Ross Raddi/Figboss and Ben B from Seattle look like Amateurs. Check the earlier videos.
Hi, did you acquire it from Ryan (quackmaster) on figbid? I bought Martinenca Rimada and Col de dame grise from him, both turned out to be something different, possibly Col de Dame Blanc.
My CdDB came from Big Bill at Off The Beaten Path Nursery. It is true to type.
alot of peoples rimadas reverted this season. I purchased a larger CdD Rimada tree and was able to make a copy by air layer, both seem to be holding the variegation so far. I don't think the variegation returns unless you still have a bud or limb with some remaining, good luck.
I wish I could explain the appeal of a rimada. The Col de Dame Rimada is, blindfolded, identical to Col de Dame Blanc. It just looks so cool 😂 Thanks for watching.
Will you be selling any cuttings this year and will you consider shipping to Canada?
Thanks for the great video
I will be in around a month when things go dormant, but I cannot reliably ship outside of the US. Customs will almost certainly confiscate and destroy them. We can’t even ship to California, so I only ship to the lower 47 states.
How is the col de dame blanc since you put it on the ground? Its 2023 …3 yrs later. Looking forward for the update
good comparison. i am getting amazing col de dame blancs in my cold climate right now. i bring this tree in on frost nights to ripen the last few figs. with the cold and wet you would think the quality of figs isnt good but they are. best part the swd arent around when this guy ripens. i have had cracks but no splitting. i am making copies of this one next year to abuse. i am going to see if i can get splitting or watery figs. i have had 1st year top growth die in the cold. other than not being cold hardy this fig takes my crap end of season weather. i dont mind having to drag this tree around to get an early start. this tree is worth the trouble. this is my favorite fig.
MRgreen what I’m finding is the Col de Dame’s are not a sweet fig. You need heat to develop sugars (which is why you can grow lemons and limes in Zone 9 PWN but not oranges). I, too, am noticing my Col de Dame’s are handling the much cooler temps well because it is the flavor and texture that makes the Col de Dame, not the sweetness. I think these Col de Dame’s would be an excellent choice for a PWN grower that seems mild temps all year round since they don’t rely on sugars for their appeal like most syrupy sweet varieties do.
@@TheMillennialGardener interesting theory. time to get a brix meter. i wonder if there is a way to do an acid test easy?
@@666Necropsy maybe pH strips? It's tough to say. I can tell you the Col de Dame's have a similar flavor and texture. They are some of the least sweet figs I've ever tasted, but something about their flavor and texture is just harmonious. The Blanc is stronger than the Noir, but the Noir exhibits much better resistance to rain, splitting and pests, at least on these immature trees. Noir's productivity was outstanding, but Blanc yielded the best 2 figs I had all season (although not nearly as many). Sticking them in the fridge makes them even better due to the thick texture. It makes it like a pastry.
@@TheMillennialGardener I just had a unknown fig ripen. very similar to cddb but better. was sweeter and more berry flavor. i was blown away by this one. i didnt think it was possible to get the sweetness in the cold. it was a green/black type fig with spade leaves. i gave this one no head start unlike my cddb. i am 1 week into frost. leaves are gone now but picked these last figs. this was the last and best figs all season.
MRgreen interesting, maybe the frost sweetened it like a frost can sweeten carrots, persimmons, greens and other things. Frost definitely has a sweetening effect on some things. Maybe the frost made it good? It’s a shame you don’t know the variety. Sounds good.
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I was wondering if you plan on planting anything over the winter season? I just got my garlic in and I’m debating on parsnips. Not sure if I’ve waited too long for those though. It’s gonna get cold this weekend!
Thank you. I took your advice and started an Instagram page, though it's in its infancy and I've used it three or four times so far. Baby steps.
I have beets, radishes, carrots, lettuces, spinach and kale. I think next year I may try my hand at garlic, shallots and onions. I've never grown them before. I just pulled all my tomatoes onto the ground to cover them in this cold. We'll see how it goes. It sounds like it is going to be downright frigid for this time of year. I hope this isn't indicative of how the entire winter will be. You should definitely go big and plant everything you can handle. That way, if things fail, you'll have backups that may do well. It's devastating when you only plant a few things and it doesn't work out. Hedge your bets, I say.
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All of those sound great! If you want some seeds let me know. I got some Hi Shi Co Bunching Onions from Ray over at the Praxus channel (I’ve been watching him for YEARS) and grew them last year and they’re great! They’re like green onions you get at the store. Man, I have sooooo many seeds!
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The busy gardener made a video about a reverted panache, and he explained why they revert.
My understanding is the variegation is a genetic anomaly and very unstable. Genes are a funny thing because just because you have genes for something doesn't mean you have to express them. (Example: you can be genetically susceptible to heart disease, but if you lived your life eating a healthy diet, exercising, getting plenty of sun and fresh air, not smoking, drinking and doing drugs, you may not express it!) I would assume sometimes the plants stop expressing the genes, which may be easy since it is clearly a recessive trait.
Another great video! Thanks for sharing!
What are the other varieties you are contemplating on putting in ground?
I’ve been meaning to put some in ground this fall but the time has passed too fast and I think it’s too cold now. So probably spring.
I’m still deciding, but definite are I-258, Col de Dame Blanc, Col de Dame Noir and Smith. The rest I am still evaluating. There may be one or two others. Many will be culled. Thanks for watching.
Your doing great, really. I hope this isn't a dumb question . But do you have a brown turkey fig ? Or is it not even in the ball park as a Col de Dame Blanc ? I have room for 4 more more fig trees. ( North West Florida ) need suggestions .
randymack1234 no, I do not. My experiences with Brown Turkey aren’t positive. I don’t care for the figgy-melon figs. I think they’re bland, but that’s just my personal taste. Others love them because of their large size and fresh taste.
A Col de Dame Blanc tastes nothing like a Brown Turkey. They’re almost nothing alike. For your location, I really recommend trialing varieties in buckets like I am to see what does well. However, the more humidity tolerant figs for my climate (my summers are very similar to yours) were I-258, Smith, Bordissot Blanca Negra, Olympian, Col de Dame Noir, Violette de Bordeaux and Martinenca Rimada. They all maintained closed eyes and were resistant to ants and pests. My best tasting fig of the year was Col de Dame Blanc, but I had issues with it splitting and attracting ants. It was so good I’m willing to deal with its problems. My best all-around fig was I-258.
@@TheMillennialGardener I really appreciate you taking the time to reply to my question . You also went the extra mile and explained why and offered advice on what I should try. Your attention to detail along with your no nonsense approach to your videos is why you have reached the Million mark. Congrats and Thank you !!!! You deserve it.
@@randymack1234 I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. I'm happy to help as many people as I can. I'd love to see a world where everyone is growing something. Even if it's just a tiny herb garden on their window sill in an urban apartment. It all counts.
I’ll have to do a channel search to see if you’ve made a video on how you make those tree tags
I have them linked in my Amazon Storefront under GARDEN ACCESSORIES. They are flexible aluminum. You just press on them with a ball point pen and they engrave.
Finally, my figs were ripe enough to eat and they tasted amazing. I want to learn HOW can I get my fig tree to ripen earlier in the year so we can enjoy them all summer and fall long here in Pa. Do you have any tips or tricks for an earlier harvest?
That's great. I'm glad they ripened for you. I suggest placing this weed barrier around the base of your tree early in the season (please note the link above is an Amazon Associate affiliate link):
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This is the weed barrier I have down in all my videos. It attracts a lot of sunlight and heat early in the season, which will give your trees a head start. I also recommend pinching your figs early in the season like in the video I made:
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Interesting 🤔. Great share!
Celeste's Nest Hi, do you watch Ben B. from Seattle?
Thank you!
Col de Dame Rimada = mutated Col de Dame Blanc.
Panache Tiger = ? I had a PT once, and it started to revert on a few branches. Someone told me that PT is just a mutated form of another fig, and they thought it was a Col de Dame Blanc. Are Panache Tiger and CdDR actually the same thing?
That's actually not true. Col de Dame Rimada was a variety discovered by Pons. It is not Col de Dame Blanc.
www.figdatabase.com/variety-details/104/col-de-dame-rimada
"According to Señor Pons, Coll de Dama Rimada was discovered in an olive orchard at a high altitude on the Balearic island of Mallorca, Spain."
Thank you for a great video
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
I thought your old camera and mic were pretty good . Particularly the way you panned your trees the branches were easily defined against the background . Of course there is plenty of space between your trees with black ground cover
I rejected the Col de dame just within the last 24 hours for the growing characteristics. I can remember why . I better take a second look . So the blanc is the one to get over the noir. Oor the blanc noir combo.
I got the impression from other channel videos that a ozzing eye was desirable. The host talk in admiration of the leaking honey. And yet it is obvious that would attract bugs. . So there is so much to consider when choosing a variety. And many opinions or instructions are needed by me to full grasp that
I wouldn't say the Blanc is better than the Noir. It depends what you're looking for. A perfectly ripened Blanc was my favorite fig all year, but I had much more problems with the Blanc's splitting and attracting pests. The Noir's were problem free. I only got 3 good Blanc's all year, and I got dozens of good Noir's. The Blanc definitely has more potential, but I would rather have 20-30 Noir's that taste really good than 3 perfect Blanc's. I'm hoping the Blanc will do better as the tree matures.
@@TheMillennialGardener ok that changes my tune completely . Splitting and insect attraction and your testimony of eatable fruit numbers on the noir. . I got to start taking note with memory only I keep going back and forth. Thanks for clarifying
@@bobbrawley2612 my recommendation is get them both and try them both. Despite only getting a few Blanc's, they were so fantastic I'm planting my tree in-ground. Both Blanc and Noir made my cut.
So was the fig size difference just ordinary variation or do the Rimada tend to be larger?
Dave Joseph it is just ordinary variation. This fig seems to be in the 40-50 gram range on average. It is a medium sized fig.
Great vid and info.Where are you located? Thanks!
Thank you. I’m just southwest of Wilmington, NC. My location details are in the video description.
@@TheMillennialGardener Thanks
Hello! How are you? Just wondering what exactly rimada is and what it means. Maybe you could post a video or just reply if possible. That way us newbies can understand what it is. Thank you! Really like your videos.
"Rimada" simply means variegated. It is similar to albino - there are white stripes, as in albino striping. It is a rare genetic mutation that upon luck can overcome a random branch. If it happens to a branch, we call that a "sport" and if cuttings are taken exclusively from that branch, it can maintain the unstable genetics. Some trees revert. The mutation is often unstable, so you can have it for years and it can suddenly disappear.
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for the reply. I actually had made a search trying to find out what it was and nothing came up. This is very interesting.
Yep, it is a very rare mutation. It doesn’t affect the taste at all, it just looks cool. It adds a lot of money to the cost of the trees for no real reward in terms of taste or performance.
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