the gall to post this video after East Palestine, Florida Champlain Towers South, the recent boeing issues, countless number of oil spills in-land and on-shore, fatal bridge collapses and the dam failures a few years back. The absolute blinders a person must have to spit on a neighbor while living in an open roof shake
I don't know how old you are but we had a similar situation during the financial crisis 2008. Banks just wouldn't lend money because they were afraid to lose it. The financial crisis plus the housing bubble destroyed many existences and many people have to struggle with the the banking schemes that were responsible for the situation even today.
The 57 day building was serious miss mixed with fail on your part in this case. As it was mostly using prefabricated elements and only on-site works took 19 days, preparations were much longer. And yeah, here comes your fail, it wasn't 57 days, it was 19 days for 57 stories building. Plus this building as it was a show piece is probably highest quality building in the neighbourhood. Someone from country where homes are built out of shit, wood and paper should know how prefabrication speeds up building process. PS. I diss you only on this one because rest of your video is correct. Problem is that when you have even one thing wrong and so blatantly wrong both in data and concept it is enough to disqualify your whole video for majority of undecided, slightly warm towards China.
I'm a real estate inspector in Houston. A few years ago, I looked at a plumbing rough-in done by a Chinese plumbing firm. When I asked them if they knew these drain pipes required a vent pipe, the reply was, :Yeah, we knew. We just didn't think anyone would look."
Their situation is also ‘MADOFF’ in a state form. Every way that China can grab someone’s money is in their playbook. How terrible for the people and culture!!
I saw a video where a lady in China crashed her car into a fire hydrant only to find out that it was not kooked up to anything. There were no pipes, just dirt underneath.
Technically, there is a fire hydrant there,good enough for building codes right? It reminds of Hackworth writing in "About Face" that South Vietnamese helicopter maintenance crews thought checking off the task on the checklist was "good enough". After all, it got them paid right?
We have some chinese kids come for a two year program when i was in high-school. One of the boys was absolutely obsessed with punching everything. He would wrap up his hand and punch the brick wall. The lockers. The doors. Even the wire meshed glass on the doors. He would slam his feet into the floor he would just generally act like a hot blooded crazy guy. Well, after gaining the ability to communicate with our phones i learned why he spent the first two weeks smashing his hand into our school. He was amazing nothing broke. Thats it. He was actually impressed he couldn't damage bricks... he was amazed the pipes in the boys bathroom could support our body weight by a magnitude. He was impressed he couldn't put his foot through the floor tiles. I felt so weird showing him my car. It was a original bone stock 1972 delta 88 with a big block v8. That car had been in my family for three generations. And he could not believe its age and that it still functioned enough i drove it daily. When i took him on a dirt road and showed him how a heavy as shit classic car with a big block feels as it floats down the road he was ready to cry. These people dont know any better. And its awful.
My father happened to visit a friend's new apartment in China where renovation crew was planning to work on the kitchen. He saw them planning to drill through a load-bearing concrete pillar to create a path for the fume hood vent. He warned the owner and the crew to not do that and to consult building management. Next time he popped by, the vent went right through the pillar and he can see the exposed rebar. Just unreal.
my hydro flossing device went bad after couple of months of usage , took it apart and water was at the electronic compartment and flooded the motor as well , was made in China , they just copy whatever they can and they hope it will work as the original 😂😂@@WobblesandBean
I worked for a company that had international schools built in Shanghai. The last one built was started in early April and finished by the start of the new school year in August. They work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and at night they had very little lighting. On day one, the roof leaked, and throughout my time there, multiple major issues arose. We used to have a joke that the Chinese could build anything and make it look instantly "old".
Was this concord in Pudong? Heard it was a bit rough but a big chunk of that blame goes to the investor pushing for schedule … I’m at another school recently being completed. Investor’s own construction company built it and the quality’s amazing …
Your description of the construction itself reminds me on the Olkiluoto nuclear reactor in Finland. A friend of mine removes dangerous material like contaminated stuff or asbestos full time. He said no one knows how many different companies from who knows how many different countries worked on that reactor. China is asshoe, but we don't have to look that far to find shitty constructions. Is that city, Flint or what it was called, finally having clean water? I think you get what I want to say.
If it that bad in Shanghai....why do you work in Shanghai then?......😂😂😂.... You should have go back to US after 24 hours working in China.....Idiotic logic....😂😂😂
Having your apartment flooded with sewage is definitely bad, but it's not as bad as walking out of your 24th story apartment door and realizing there's nothing there, just a 24-story hole because part of the building collapsed and you're now trapped in your apartment
@@jessnalulila5552 I think I remember this being on the news here. If I recall correctly, the man's boss hit him with a "You're still coming into work, right?"
@@jakewillits4678yeah, that was rough. Even if you trust the amount of bleach you're using, you clean the areas that people will touch with their hands first, and then do the areas that got blasted by the most germs. Or at the very least, don't cross-contaminate from the toilet seat/bowl to literally anywhere else.
My degree is in supply chain management, and for the capstone project my class toured a plant that made custom office furniture for Boeing. We had a Chinese exchange student in the class with us. When the plant manager was conducting the tour he said "we source all of our gears from Germany due to the very strict tolerances required." The exchange student went on to call German engineering "like giving a disabled child a set of blocks" and China can do anything Germany can better by 10 times. The plant manager just laughed at him. The brainwashing over there is insane.
@@stevenschultz9637mixed bag. Parents fear monitoring, child does the monitoring. Bolshevik policy of the USSR reimplemented by the Kaifeng of the CCP.
@@david6135probably meant to say WW1, Germany had a few ports for trade and such, and obviously since there was some coercion to take them from China, they were well fortified.
I work for an import company in the EU and when my boss, the CEO thought of bringing in stuff from China, he talked to a Chinese business man friend. They're in totally different businesses. So the Chinese guy said that the only way to get good quality products from China is to have your own inspector keep an eye on things constantly at the factory. Otherwise they'll cut corners and produce bad quality. So that's fun. We're not importing from China.
Goes beyond that as well. They'll also steal the designs and technology and/or produce more of the product with different branding to sell themselves (if only locally).
Used to be in precision optics and we ordered low grade stuff for some basic applications from our Chinese factory. Quality control would usually reject 50 to 60% of anything they sent us. It was ridiculous.
@@jim2376 the Chinese machines they were using themselves had such terrible tolerances that even after calibrating them (which probably wasn’t often enough) this was probably the best they could do. China does not have the capability nor the mentality for precision work.
Not all the sea sand is smooth like the desert sand, but still it has to be processed to remove the organic material and undesired parts, and the chloride is an issue too.
'Building' sand is known as 'sharp'sand as, when examined closely is jagged and rough which bonds solidly with cement and aggregates,sea sand is approx. spherical so can't grip,it's been worn into shape by the sea over millenia and is useless for construction.
Another big problem with sea sand is that the constant wave action rubs the grains against each other, rounding off the sharp edges. Normal sand contributes to the concrete’s strength, because the sharp grains lock against each other. The rounded grains of sea sand don’t do this, making the resulting concrete up to 30% weaker. (And you’re right about the problems caused by salt content as well.)
you could just engineer around the problem. I think by now the chinese state is well aware that its impossible to fully prevent these kinds of corruption slipping into even major infrastructure projects. So all major state funded projects are mandated to have much higher safety margins to prevent spectacular failures. Thats was the reason behind building the three gorges dam as a gravity dam rather than a concave dam. Because state officials didn't have the confidence the construction industry Wouldn't cut corners so they engineered in a failsafe. The dam itself is so heavy that even if it were rubble. it would still hold back the water.
@@hughmungus2760 Interesting thought! Personally, I think that’s too wide a span for an arch design to work, and it’d also demand a lot from the rock on either side, since an arch transfers so much of the load to its moorings. I also suspect that just rubble could hold back the water over the long term (Is it true that the dam has shifted by as much as a few centimeters in some places? I read that once, but don’t know its provenance.) But the idea of over-engineering to account for corruption is an interesting one. The inky problem is you don’t necessarily know how much corruption there’ll be :-)
As a civil engineer, your explanation of building material such as concrete is spot on. On a side note, I hate how YT makes you use double speak to avoid getting flagged and/or demonetized.
I love how YT warns you about something you said, but never tells you what it was that caused them the heartburn. "You wrote something that hurt someone's feelings." "What was it I said." "Something."
I remember our science teacher in high school(who taught all the science classes, it was a tiny private school lol) showing us a demonstration of how the ingredients used in concrete affected it's strength and resilience. He split us into groups and presented us with big bins of different materials to mix together to see who could make the steongest concrete. We had to use what we had learned over the semester to figure it out. There was one bin of river silt, one of beach sand, one of commercial crushed gravel, one of smooth river rocks, etc. One of the groups asked if they could attempt to make the weakest mixture and he said absolutely, that's a perfect example for the project. So they mixed together a high amount of beach sand with river rocks and just about the least amount of cement they could get away with, and the resulting blocks could literally be crumbled with a slight squeeze. We had so much fun doing "karate" demonstrations with them 😂 He then explained that that was essentially what they used to build a lot of buildings in China. We were dumbfounded. "Wouldn't they just collapse?", we asked. His response was, "They do. All the time. And people die." Excellent video as always, Stak.
I'm glad to hear your teacher was so enthusiastic about the attempt at the weakest. It sounds like he left an impression on you and, most likely, the rest of that class. It reminds me of a science teacher I had when I was 15ish that, one day a year, welcomed his students every period while munching down chalk. He spent that day burping a bunch, but also taught us (using that wonderfully memorable demonstration) that antacids and chalk are basically the same thing barring some food colouring and flavouring. I've had to employ this knowledge 2 or 3 times in my life when I've had terrible heartburn but no access to antacids 😅
@@lornbaker1083 It is the lime in the roman concrete that makes it so good cause when it gets wet it expands and fills its cracks pretty much self repairing concrete. There was an MIT paper about it about a year ago.
Worked in the steel wire reinforcment industry for 15 years, you know rebar... We ordered Chinese steel one time just to see why it was so cheap. It was certified high carbon steel by Chinese labs. And it was hot garbage, those certs were forged. Inconsistent tensile and carbon throughout the rolls. Was so bad it all went in the scrap hopper, our machines couldn't run it without damage. So yeah, we saw this coming over a decade ago.
It is about putting on the appearance of competence and quality. "Saving face" is paramount, even if it is a lie. It is a cultural mindset over there that comes off very alien in the west. I mean, there's deep seeded cultural reasons why Chinese Dynasties were so cyclic and would become so riddled with corruption and faults the longer they went on. It's just weird that you see the same follies in their industry in the modern era...
News flash: The Chinese don't own China. They're owned by the same syndicate that owns 'Murica. But the sheep don't care. As such, they'll bleat loudly for awhile... And then disappear. Forever.
@@planescapedit goes incredibly deep. I remember a Chinese friend asking me to eat lunch with him. We were at my place when I was living in China. There was just me and him. I said "I'm ok I'm just not hungry, go ahead and eat". And he said "Please eat with me?" I was like "why, I'm really just not hungry right now. I'm feeling bloated." He said "Please, just eat something. Give me face." I didn't understand at all. Only much later did I understand the distress I'd caused because he felt he'd lost face by my not joining him. Even though it was just me and him in the privacy of my apartment! A completely foreign and alien concept to a European like me. And so intense...
The more I learn about communism and the like, throughout history, the more I realize that as crazy as Reagan era red scare rhetoric sounded, it was all completely justified on the foundation of this ideology that promises a perfect world, and delivers never ending atrocities
Even years ago people were saying thing were being built w/out the same safety standards we see in the US hence why it was done so fast. But building codes are written in blood. That’s why we have them.
I always thought safety standards they were violating was regarding Workers life. Which they are. but yeah, Turns out until 2022-2023 I had no idea what safety violation really was about.😅
@@elinisguy it is more it takes longer due to bureaucracy and getting your work permits accepted as well as built sufficient electric and water infrastructure
In case of war we really need better digital electric water infrastructure that is better protected against hacking attempts and also expand this infrastructure to build more housing otherwise you put to much stress on the already existing infrastructure
@@sookendestroy1 I mean have you heard of demand and supply currently there is a higher demand than supply for this sort of things like its easy to say build more housing but you need to provide adequate infrastructure
I'm a construction engineer in Sydney. A few years ago, I was called to inspect a crack on a posh high rise constructed by an Australian developer. Most residents have to be evacuated due to serious structural cracks in the building. The homeowners tried to reach a settlement with the developer and they paid them 15 cents on the dollar. The founder of the company then bought a $20m mansion and continued building houses.
I was fortunate enough to be able to travel in China for a month in 2007. I kinda wanted to buy a a beach house on Lantau Island (in Repulse Bay-Hong Kong). The house existed,was finished, but the wife was not nearly as interested/impressed with the house as I was…so I don’t have a Chinese beach house. Probably a good thing.
There are two channels for Chinese products. * Stuff sold through Amazon/Ebay * Stuff sold through well known high street retailers. The first is totally unregulated, the second is (they have to comply with EU regs). Famously the factory that makes DJI drones has a separate engineering/quality path for drones headed for the EU compared with those sold locally. The ones destined for local consumption fail very quickly. The EU ones do not.
I saw a video where someone was taking a hammer to the wall on top of a large, newly constructed road bridge - the wall was literally a concrete skim over a core of cardboard. Not 'special' cardboard of some kind, it was bundles of recycled packaging. At least it wasn’t load bearing.
Ironically enough. My great grandfather on my dad's side was kinda crazy? And obsessed with cardboard. So the house that he built literally used it as insulation. My grandpa his son told me he'd insert it into his jackets.
Goodness, the idea of the 3 gorges dam being a tofu drag project sure is alarming. It makes me wonder if the claims of it being resistant to tactical nukes are true or not.
@@tiii4017 I do remember hearing claims that it would be nuke proof during its construction. I don't remember where I heard them and I thought they were pretty crazy at the time.
@@TheMantisLord50 I wouldn't really call him a dictator. He was relatively the most liberal Soviet leader and was forced to retire when he screwed up the Cuban crisis. Not something a dictator would do.
@tesy21 no, dictator is someone like Hitler, who will murder your entire family if you dare to criticize him, not someone who is forced to step down after other elites in government call him out on his mistakes. You can say the goverment is a dictatorship but the leader is no dictator. Post Stalinist soviet union is more of an oligarchy. You are at the whims of key supporters, those who are in control of the military, security apparatus, whoever commands the politburo and ect
One of my brothers for years now regularly travels to China on business for his employer. He told me he has never seen the sun there. It's always hazy. My other brother's employer gifted the whole company a trip to Beijing about 10 years ago. He said he didn't really see anything of the city, it was too foggy to see further than a couple of 100 metres.
Also, I once talked with someone who was on a business trip in Wuhan (that one) in 2019, not a friend, but just an acquaintance at a party. He colourfully described those apartment districts as the most depressing feeling place in the world. For Americans, imagine very closely built projects (or extra huge Khrushchevkas for ex-USSR users), faceless appartment buildings, but not as a block, but blocks upon blocks stretching in all directions for miles, like a bad dream. Like they were driving through that place at a good pace for seemingly an hour and the view did not change at all, same buildings in an unending nightmare forest
I'm reminded of dubais mcmansion suburbs. Where dozens of rows of buildings look identical. I will never understand building that way. Even a difference in exterior color would make all the difference
Just look at the hundreds of thousands of homeless in New York, SFO , LA, Houstons , Dallas, Seattle....etc...etc.... and not to mention the gettos in these cities......YOU SHOULD BE ASHAME OF USA INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT CHINA.....😂😂😂
its the same in my country SIngapore....93% of the housing and architecture here look like dystopian pruitt igoe utilitarian cookie cutter concrete hells.......and worse these so called public housing units goes for an average price of $500k SGD on the secondary market for the entry level apartments ......but i have never heard of nothing but praise from the world about SIngapore for some reason.... if u look at the documentary chernoblyat that came out a few years back, the scene where they showed the town of pripyat back in the 80s just before the incident happened and the town was permanently abandoned.....before it was overrun by forest growth....it would look exactly like SIngapore housing. of course, there are newer and bigger apartments constantly build in the country but if u go to the older parts, and the older flats.....it would look exactly the same as soviet era public housing. its like the same as housing in hong kong. although i agree China is worse, considering the size of their population...iv seen videos of it, one neighbourhood is literally like one giant concrete concourse where the rows of shops on the ground floor are and the blocks of flats goes on and on for as far as the eye can see, u literally cant see where the concrete starts or ends,because its nothing but concrete,there are stairs and overhead bridges winding around the concrete metropolis sure but the concrete literally covers everything......there was nothing to intersperse the monotony.....like a small park or a river or lake or a field or natural features as u walk down the center of the blocks of "apartments"....its just one giant concrete foyer or center walkway and block after block after block of tall apartment buildings right next to each other for at least half a km.... like the center of a city in another country but 20 times bigger.....gigantic monolithic megalithic..... i think most westerners dont understand exactly how lucky they are......to live in countries with large spaces and low population density.
I love the way the hired professional cleaner in the hazmat suit cleaned the toilet rim first before moving on to the parts where human hands touch, like the handle to flush the toilet. all the while continuing to use the same sponge. Then over to another area where we touch with our bare hands all with fresh toilet germs. Can't unsee that.
If they're using the sort of chemicals I used back when I worked janitorial in college, it's not the germs you should worry about. That stuff was super caustic.
Been there. There are few public standard toilets and they are not cleaned as it's beneath the worker to do so it seems. Slit at ground level toilets were more common and ripped up paper is toilet paper. Private homes were ok.
There was a massive mall built and one toy maker moved in. A reporter kept checking on him. He would maybe sell one toy a week and had no revenue to help his family. There were no other stores anywhere in the massive mall. Just him and stores that came and went, but the place was eerily quiet.
In china a 2 year old is run over by a truck in a busy market. The kid's mom is nowhere to be found. And shoppers step over the twitching dying child on their way to buy food cooked in gutter oil. There is no concern for human life there. So. Safety standards are just a nuisance that lowers profits.
If I remember correctly. I believe I heard if you try and help a person, you can be held financially liable after. I believe i also heard that if you hit a pedestrian its better to have killed them than only injured them. It's supposedly why you see people after an accident running the person over again intentionally. I dont know if it's true but I've seen footage showing accidents where this is done that appears to be China.
Sea sand also contains a lot of silica cement doesn't bond well. Silica doesn't absorb water that's why it's used in water filtration. I worked for a swimming pool filtration company and someone stole bags of silica sand and built a wall he came back to us and said his wall fell down then tried to blame us. Another company used building sand in some filters and they clogged up the pressure went so high it damaged some pipes. Moral of the story don't use materials unsuitable for the job.
I thought that's why the romans used volcanic ash in their concrete. Because the water would continue to actually make it more Resistant. And despite their use of lead pipes They use silica sand and charcoal for filtration
Got to love the nerve of the filter sand thief trying to blame you for his wall falling over! Was his name trump? 😅 Sounds like his sort of behaviour! 😮
Silica is literally used in dehumidifying packets. You find them in all manner of food and clothing packaging. E.g. jerky, purses, shoes, glasses, etc. Silica is an EXCELLENT absorber of water, the problem is that it absorbs and dries super fast, unlike other rocks. Water evaporating quickly leaves tiny holes, thus leaving a swiss cheese concrete. Also, it's smooth, not sharp edged.
Any good contractor in the US does slump tests on every load of concrete, and takes random rodded-cylinders for compression and quality testing. If the concrete passes these tests, it is near certainty it meets structural code requirements.
@@hodr1000 It tests the amount of water in the mix... this is a critical factor in mix design, determining the final compressive strength of placed concrete.
@karlwithak. While some things might be over-engineered, the US has never had any issues with its buildings collapsing, so long as those rules that you are criticizing are being followed. When a building does collapse in the US, it's fairly big news. In China it is just a daily occurrence now.
Here in Argentina, sea-sand is commonly used in construction of homes....one can even see small seashells within the "concrete" structure. The salt content corrodes the rebar within, & as the rebar rusts the rebar expands fracturing the structure. BTW, don't be using those high pressure sprayers as they will cut thru this material like a hot knife thru butter.
@@Unknownvillian___As in our case, our two-story Duplex while being in an upscale part of town...it was built in the eighties and since then, both the in-wall gas-lines and the water-lines have sprung leaks...upon ripping into walls, both lines were severely corroded & have been replaced. In thinner wall structures (200mm?)the corroded pipes have wrecked, split the walls requiring complete replacement of the wall itself.
In the seventies they added a chemical(salt-like) to concrete to make it set quicker...now the first prefab floors in homes are starting to split open..(Netherlands)
Someone told me: "look, the Chinese are building solar power, windmills. They care about the environment." I replied: they have their backs against the wall, they will build ALL types of power, they have no choice, a GDP that grows 8% a year demands power that also grows 8% a year." Boy was I right. A quick google showed they were building 53 (FIFTY-THREE) Nuclear Power Plants in 20 years, plus coal plants, a large Dam (Three Gorges) and shoving windmills and solar panels where they can't put anything else. Tofu dregs buildings are no surprise.
This has been FASCINATING!!! One of my sons is a Concrete Tester, as in he goes to construction sites to test the concrete before it is poured - as in he sometimes has to tell construction foremen that the truck that just arrived needs to be turned away. There are some companies that dread seeing him coming but he takes his job very seriously. In our area the biggest building growth are condo/apartment buildings and schools. (There was a massive influx to our area in 2020.) I am sure that there are some people with his job that are dissuaded from saying "Nope, not pouring that", but that job is just one in a line of people that triple check adhering to building codes. Our state is VERY strict on that and fines have put large construction companies out of business - here it's more profitable in the long run to stick to codes.
i lived in Thailand for 20 years. Wow they build fast. and you see buildings that are 7 years old falling apart. interior ceilings, stairs, rails, electricy and the list goes on and on. many of the companies building in thailand,are chinese. try to complain. you wil be tied up in court forever. my wife and i bought a house that was built about 15 years before when building standards still mattered. moral of the story, maybe best not to buy
Today, stabilizers on cameras are so good, that even if you're witnessing an earthquake, in the video everything looks still and ppl just look like they're super drunk.
As a requirement in one of my college world humanities classes, we had to watch two Ai Wei Wei documentaries. They both covered the earthquake in great detail and the sense of hopelessness the locals had trying to get the government to even recognize the tragedy for what it was. I'm so intrigued to find out what's been happening about the tofu construction issues since then.
Obviously you did not attend the college where Brandon stored in a CCP-owned building thousands of classified documents he stole from the White House and National Archives.
Its impossible to tell what's changed, from the inside or outside, which means its probably just the same or worse (b/c you can't hope to stop this kind of thing without transparency). Their whole society is gonna deal with these kinds of problems for a long time still I imagine, even after Xitler dies.
I still remember a house I visited when I was studying civil engineering design in the early 2000s. The owners were immigrants working their asses off abroad, building their dream house. The construction company used the fact that they weren’t able to oversee the construction to build the entire house of bricks. Foundations, beams, pillars who should be made of reinforced concrete were made of hollow bricks. When the owners came home, they soon discovered the house was sinking into the ground, because the company didn’t even do a geological survey and didn’t realize the building was placed half way on solid ground and the other half on soft clay, and soon after, the house literally cracked in two. After finishing my studies, I then worked for company that consistently used sub-standard concrete. Luckily I refused to sign any technical documentation and soon left the company. All of this happened in Portugal.
I was in Beijing in 2007 visiting a friend who was an exchange student there and got to talk to some of the local students as well. They were mostly one who wanted to leave China so there may have been some bias, but one of them told me of a series of traditional chinese stories about a "mr. almost" which was a satirical take on the results of out of control confuscianism. Stories like him renting out a boat, the client getting in, setting off only realize there was no sail or oars, yelling back and asking why there were none and what he should do, and getting the answer "well, you didn't ask to rent oar or a sail and what you should do is not my problem". Far from the only country in the world to have acted this way; we have the term Potenmkin village after all, China is singularly obsessed with the appearance of success. Cutting corners, cheating, lying and such is not really looked down on, only that deception being revealed. A very successful cheater is held in higher regard than a moderately successful honest man. Not uniquely chinese, I know, but you find it in all level of society. Everyone I know who has seriously studied the country has told me the same thing: whenever the chinese present positive numbers, you halve them to get close to the truth. Whenever they present bad numbers, double them. This goes for everyone from a lowly construction worker to Xi Xingping himself, and all his predecessors. In a rush to appear more powerful than they are, they built the country on poor foundations and that way of doing things always comes around to bite you in the end.
As someone living in a country not that long ago occupied by russia, the last part about halfing/multiplying the numbers is very familiar. But I guess this is what communism does to a nation. The real state of things is not relevant, presentation is more important and if it somewhat resembles the reality then even better, you can get the numbers even higher. And if someone finds out, what are they gonna do? Call the police? You belong to the party, they won't do anything and if they're too ambitious a little bribe will do. This sort of thinking was present on all levels of life. Until the communism collapsed and free market verified that imaginary products in fact cannot sustain you.
@@Lama-dr4om I lived in Taiwan for four years. It has never been communist, nor was it ravaged by the Cultural Revolution under Mao. There is a problem with traditional Chinese culture, with several factors that contribute. One is that it is fundamental for all Chinese people to save face and avoid embarrassing others. This even applies to young children. Chinese people would rather lie than lose face or cause another to do so. There are supposed to be limits to this, but I never figured them out. The next problem is that business rules are often imposed arbitrarily and it is routine to pay police to look the other way. Whenever an employer was proposing something dodgy and I would point out that it was illegal, they would say, "I think it will be okay." They actually mean, "I think no one will find out, and if they do, I will hand them a red envelope." Another problem is that young Chinese people are not expected to know how to do anything but study. My students did not even know how to make tea. It was common for women to learn to cook only after they were married, and they would generally learn from their grandmother. The next problem is with their approach to education. The children are overworked with not much time to review the things they have learned. There is a huge emphasis on rote memorization and testing is never very challenging, because all students are expected to score over 90 percent in everything. The school where I worked expected me to call students at home and practice the exam with them word for word, two weeks before they would take it. There was a huge earthquake in 1999, with well over 2000 people killed. Most were killed in the mountains closer to the epicentre with unavoidable mudslides crushing houses. My county was pretty safe, but about two hundred people died when two buildings sheared off at the base and just rolled over. The word was that they were structurally unsound because the contractor who built it had the workers replace the rebar with plastic conduit filled with concrete. Now all that being said, Taiwan has much less of this going on than the PRC, mostly because they have embraced a regulatory framework similar to the West. It just makes sense and no one is stopping them. Most of the professionals I met were educated at places like Harvard and Johns Hopkins.
Yes, I was an exchange student as well in 2003.. but I went to Japan instead. I am glad I did, I have never had an interest in China because of how backwards their way of thinking is. The complete opposite when I visited Japan and went to school there, everything is about honor and loyalty and truth, though Japan has its own set of issues, it just feels like a totally different world when the entire country is so clean and people are friendly and you don't have to worry about your things being stolen. Things are on such a good honor system they have beer and cigarettes in vending machines back then that didn't require age verification to buy. We were in HS.. we bought a lot of Beer.
Got to love when RUclips demonetizes a video because you point out how horrible Chinese construction is. Surprising how much RUclips protects China even though RUclips is not even allowed in China
Clearly this person has not taken the time to watch chinese youtubers youtubing from china and these youtubers get awards for it from organizations in china.
the problem the soviets had from what i read is they built things to last, then never preformed maintenence because they assumed the sturdy construction would last 100 or more years, when in reality it only extended its shelf life by a decade or two Chinas the exact inverse, they built things to crumble and have to do constant maintenence because they dont build it right the first time
then you got east germany, we built things so sturdily that attempting to remove them is a huge financial risk. for example i know of a construction company that went out of business because a building that the boss estimated would take a couple weeks to demolish, ended up taking several months because they ran into what we in germany call "blue" concrete, which came into existence when sand was not delivered to a construction site on time or in insufficient quantities, thus other (or sometimes no)aggregates were used, which often results in a mix that is much harder than regular concrete, taking more time to remove and causing more wear on equipment, as well as posing a danger to workers because some of those "blue" mixtures can break into shards that have sharp edges, which fly off at high velocities.
@@windhelmguard5295 Blue concrete also only gets stronger with time because it takes forever to cure. I've heard from a friend of mine in germany that his town tried to remove a bunch of WW2 era anti-tank traps to build new housing, the traps were so stubborn and so well built that they just blew gaps in the line for the roads, now the neighborhood just has tank traps running through it. I'll have to ask him where it is.
There are different cases for soviet construction. A lot of stuff was built ultra-sturdy, but also with very shitty planning. Some things were built well. But something that fits the bill are so called Khrushchevkas - panel apartment buildings that were mass built to give people homes in the cities. They have a lot of issues by modern standards, but the biggest one is that they probably were bot intended to be very long term. They twist and slide and warp their geometry and if you live in one, you live in a constant state of repairing your apartment, you can never be done because it never stops falling apart. Also, things built by soviets abroad aren't good examples. "Showing off" was always the top priority, so those projects had blank budgets and top shelf materials. Working on something like this was always a ticket for a good life, because there was a lot of cool stuff to "skim" for your personal budget
The most major tofu dregs are actually public infrastructures, as corruptions on government projects are rampant. Sinkholes, bridge and tunnel collapses , gaps on highways are frequently reported.
It's honestly kinda hilarious in a really dark way. I feel bad for the people but my god the Chinese government gives off three stooges vibes. It's so comically stupid and evil that it's hard for me to even understand it to be a monumentally serious problem.
Yeahhhhh. If anyone tells you that "China has a plan! They are 300 years ahead! China stronk!" remember this story, and remember that this is just the corruption and incompetence we can SEE. They dont have a plan. They knee jerk from reaction to reaction as things happen, and no one tells Pooh Bear anything because they dont want to be exiled. They are not 300 years ahead, they are 30 years behind (at least). China is in collapse, and there is no one in charge that has any ability to stop it.
@@_Jay_Maker_ there's these weird animated shorts I've seen going around of workplace accidents that are pretty gruesome, they're apparently supposed to be based on actual accidents
My heavy machiney course I completed had us watching just endless reams of chinese lack of safety videos. We had worldwide coverage of accident videos, but the widest variety of accidents and the most total were chinese. I have to wonder how many people have to die before something changes or every city becomes a ghost city.
@@DoveAlexa unfortunately it’s not “how many will die”, it’s “when will someone important enough to the government”. Especially in China (but it’s pretty consistent amounts most countries). Rules and regulations don’t change because 1,000 people were killed by something, but because 1 person in a suit was; it’s the same reason that murderers don’t get caught in black and poor neighborhoods in the US, but as soon as they touch a hair on the head of a politicians son, mountains will be moved to get a conviction. A million faceless “people” are nothing in most governments’ eyes, but a single one with a name is justification for all out war
A friend I have who works in civil engineering calls Chinese construction “corncobs and prayer” No regulation on materials, so they use the cheapest stuff on the inside and then cover it up with what looks to be good materials on the outside, and then when it collapses nothing much happens because the companies that do the work are owned partially by the state, so they get minimal fines and maybe jail some people but nothing ever happens with regulations
The YT video didn't emphasize it, but all the private sector has CCP involvement or govt. support. Therefore, the Ch. govt suppresses all the collapse and disasters. Suppresses the magnitude of the economic impact to common people. You can't turn to the courts, nor the govt for amelioration.
It's crazy how in many of these videos you can literally see the sand flying out of the buildings as they collapse and creating clouds before anything even hits the ground.
An update on Evergrande, it has been forced to liquidate all of its assets. Another thing you didn't mention concerning Evergrande concerns their Wealth Products; employees were told to invest a certain amount of money in Evergrande Wealth products, and that if they failed to do so, their performance pay and bonuses were docked. So the collapse of Evergrande is going to impact the employees just as badly as other investors, as the employees were forced to invest.
I did work as a network guy at a uS university in China. New construction. The roofs leaked in the biggest buildings. We requested LC fiber termination and got ST. There was water in pkaces that’s were supposed to be dry on the grounds. It was clear corners were being cut.
@@Neer-yy5nm America is many things, but building codes definitely not going to be one of those problems. Mainly because the government can tax people in the area even more. That is literally the main reason. A side PR reason is safety, but that is less on the scale except for those that are honest about safety inspection.
My wife and I stayed in one of eight new apartment blocks, eight floors with eight apartments each floor. We were guests of the Taiwanese construction company contracted to build and maintain them and so many others in Zhengzhou. Only two apartments were occupied , ours and the shared apartment of the President and VP of the company. The people in the old part of the city refused to move as there was no compelling reason to move where nobody lived and so far away from services (the train station remained in the old town centre).
@@mambisa2690 Zhengzhou is in China though. I imagine they just wanted to illustrate the point that nobody wanted to move there. Though you're right, makes no sense that a taiwanese firm would be contracted to build - not even because it's Taiwan in particular
A personal anecdote but one that corroborates this is that I bought a knock-off gaming chair from a Chinese seller on Amazon. Within a year, just from sitting in it, the back support ripped off. I've never seen a piece of steel over an inch thick tear apart before. Bend for sure. But a piece of steel ripping in half like that is mind boggling. And if that is any indication for the quality of the steel in use in China, I'd be terrified.
Have you heard about the cheap chairs that have been exploding? People just take a seat and its like a bomb went off. Literally, even the room theyre in looks torn up. Some have gotten a rod blasted....inside...delicate places. 😬
If you get used to working with steel imported from China and then go to work on steel from Korea or Australia you will find that things take longer as the other steels are tougher than the Chinese stuff. 😅 You get what you pay for! 😅😅
@@l0rf yeah people have been killed in China having the pneumatic rod propelled up their rears... apparently Western chairs all have a protective metal plate stopping this from happening but the Chinese thought it would be good to save a dollar per chair and got rid of it...
My uncle works in the Danish windmill industry, China would order Danish windmills, and after some time they would call and ask for help to assemble them again, after they took them apart. China likes to look good, and as being so superior in building things. They are not. Thank you for the video Sakuyi!
@@ugh.idontwanna They took it apart but forgot how to re assemble it and needed help. The original was just too intricate possibly,.the purchase of a small number for copying only is not an unknown practice
@@pholdway5801 well, if you don’t have the innovation gene, copycat is the best you can manage. But to do it extra shoddily is A shame. Frankly - if I was constructing something important I’d want the ethnically Dutch, Germans or British engineers please.
It's funny. I came here from watching videos on Kowloon. Anarchic city run by gangs and people just doing things on their own prerogative manages to stay standing long enough to be torn down on purpose, but these mega construction projects can't stay up even 40 years. It's wild.I don't know how much longer Kowloon could've remained on its own if it hadn't been torn down, but the fact it had a longer shelf-life is just mind-boggling.
At the outset of the Covid pandemic in China in January 2020, the Chinese government made a big show of rapidly constructing [a schedule of 10 days] a large building (645,000 square feet) that they termed a 1000 bed hospital with intensive care units and sections for diagnosis and infection control to treat the sickened in the Wuhan area. In meetings at the construction management oversight firm at which I worked, with a great amount of experience in mega projects, including hospitals, our engineers expressed doubt on the project's quality and really being a true hospital since hospitals are some of most complex of projects and lengthy to build given their stringent requirements and how initial building designs can become obsolete during construction that require change orders because of the quickly evolving medical technologies that go into them. Our most senior engineer, with about 45 years experience pointed out, shortly after the hospital was operational that it was likely that the building was already torqueing under the load since the concrete would not have had time to sufficiently cure given how they had rushed the schedule. There's an old saying that if you want it so badly as to rush the schedule, then bad's the way you are going to get it.
Context and facts dont seem to matter. It was a 57 story building that was constructed in "19" days. A skyscraper can have as few as 4 floors. "Broad Sustainable Building spent four and a half months fabricating the building’s 2,736 modules before construction began. The first 20 floors were completed last year, and the remaining 37 were built from 31 January to 17 February this year, Xiao said." For comparison, "Bamboo and prefab is a match made in heaven. Just ask Bamboo Living Homes, a company that prefabricates gorgeous bamboo homes and ships the disassembled products to anywhere in the world for reassembly on-site. One of their fastest bamboo building crews put together two houses in only two days in Hawaii." In other words the amount of time it takes to build something depends on how you define build. If its anything that happens at the place the building is going to be located then you can build a large house in 3 days if you have most of it put together off side (even if thats 5 ft away). If build includes assembling things offsite then it took 5+ months to build a 57 story building. None of that time includes time needed to get permission, etc. And "Intended to be the world's first 100+ story building, construction of the Empire State Building began on March 17, 1930. Construction was completed in a record-breaking 1 year and 45 days." The empire state building is 102 stories tall. 1 yr 45 days is the same as 410 days. They built the empire state building doing about 1 floor every 4 days. The "19 days" building was 57 floors and built in 4+ months (4 months + 19 days = 139 days). That means they built 1 floor every 2.5 days. Thats not that much faster than the empire state building. Context. Someone on quora mentioned "Even then, the listed time wasn’t for the completion of the building, just for the assembly. It also didn’t include a nearly year-long gap between the beginning of the assembly and the end of the assembly. There was still electrical, plumbing, insulation, sheetrock, flooring, etc to be done following the assembly before the building was actually complete." Another "We once “built” a 3 storey school in a day. (It was prefab units, sat on pads and “bolted together”) But, it took a month to prepare the site/drainage/services etc and several weeks after to finish the work, but if we wanted, we could claim we built a 3 storey school in a day, some idiots would accept that claim."
@@namename9998 The empire state is a steel frame building. You can quickly assemble those much more effectively than a concrete structure. Concrete is the most dangerous form of multi-story construction to build in a hurry, I would imagine
@@matthewmosier8439 I wasnt arguing about steel vs concrete though. I was arguing about how Stakuyi assumed that the building that was built in "57 days" (it was 57 floors. How many days it was built in depends on how you define build but 57 days is less than 4 months so he was wrong about 57 days) was unsafe just because it was built quickly. As for concrete in a hurry thats more because it takes time for it to cure. It probably takes the same amount of time for a bad concrete mix to cure as a good mix. Bad mixes are probably cheaper. And like with the 57 days building how are you defining hurry because theres such a thing as precast concrete. If you used precast concrete you could probably assemble everything quickly even though it took more time than people assume. I think bad buildings is a cultural (not just Chinese, but cheap vs proud) thing. In many countries buildings need to be inspected while construction is going on. A good inspector wont let bad buildings be made, bad inspectors will sweep problems under the rug. Another problem is education but being China I would expect their construction companies to understand construction compared to people in developing countries where people couldnt get degrees in engineering. If these buildings were made 100 yrs ago then I would expect people to be more sympathetic to stuff like the roof collapsing because of perlite (absorbed water) because people couldnt have know what would happen if it never happened before. There isnt an excuse anymore for cheap materials in multistory buildings (people have been using cheap materials for thousands of years).
This is something that no one is mentioning: Whenever a person in the States buys something that has a "Made in China" label on it there is a safe assumption that, if it DOES work, it won't work for long. That country went through and built massive amounts of roads and buildings over the last 20 years with virtually -0- inspections, ignored codes & lots of bribes. Why then would that assumption not apply to all of this development ?? Tofu Dregs is a sign that they do not understand how to mix concrete and all of their roads & buildings are made with a significant amount of this concrete. There will be many, many deaths & injuries as these projects start collapsing.
They know how to mix concrete lmfao. You took away that they just couldn’t figure out how to mix concrete? No, they purposefully used poorly mixed concrete to save money. And this applies to a lot of private development projects and smaller local infrastructure projects. Major state and central gov projects don’t suffer from it at nearly the same scale.
I think the thing that still gives me some trust, if disgust also, is that there is typically an American or European QC who actually does care that the materials and products produced work for a servicably long period of time, or will supplement a shoddy workforce with machines. My comuters, monitors, and phone have lasted for a long time. I use a kinda year-0 timescale though, so discount as you will. I should discount it too, I suppose.
@@Tounguepunchfartbox It's not just China. I live in the third world. This is common. Getting a proper concrete mix is hardly rocket science. Some people act as if it's a western secret. When my parents bought their house 40 years ago, they extended the kitchen before moving in. Most people did this. Now, the floor and walls are cracked. The parts of the original house though is fine.
Chinese management absolutely knows the specifics of their jobs like the formula for concrete or how to make knockoff Nerf darts or how to make baby formula. The problem is that management doesn't care about quality production. Rather than accept a few production delays, they will substitute inferior/incorrect materials, even when the outcome will be catastrophic to their reputation. To this day, Chinese don't buy Chinese dairy products for that reason.
I forgot their names but there were 2 expat RUclipsrs who lived in China for years and married Chinese and had to run due to the gov because they were calling out all of this stuff many years ago. They would tour the ghost cities and show them falling apart before they were even inhabited.
of course they would fall apart if not in use, any building would in any country. The cities are the governments fault, it's the companies trying to go too big
throwing up a high rise that fast is fucking insane. 1 month per level is about as fast as you can safely go. Maybe a little quicker but the concrete needs 28days to cure before you can make it bare the wait of another pour.
Pre-poured and manufactured concrete sections can be used to build mid-rise buildings very quickly. Looking at 6-7 months for a 13 story building. You are limited to a certain height and footprint.
Both beach sand and river sand are unacceptable for construction because the grains are spherical - low surface area. Manufactured sand (crushed rock) has angular jagged grains - high surface area for adhering to the cement.
Indeed, nobody in the west would use such cement. It would fail on the first control laboratory examination. And we have such control measurements after every layer we build on major infrastructure projects. I wonder how many control samples were taken on the 57 day skyscraper construction... Apparently the standards in China are very different however. For them, it would be nice just to use materials that won't actively corrode themselves.
@@MegaBlueShit They absolutely do, for the same reason they use river gravel which is also oval - it's not damaging to the concrete pumps unlike crushed gravel and crushed sand which are ideal for purpose but really tough on the pumping equipment.
I used to work in Leighton Buzzard. Not far from the town was a sandpit, with glacial "sharp" sand. They exported thousands of tons of this to Saudi Arabia for concrete to build an airport runway.
Sharp Sand is simply a washed course grade of natural sand that is more angular, not angular. As can be easily seen under a microscope compared to Manufactured Sand. It is not acceptable for concrete. Salespersons and inspectors stating that it can be used used for concrete are guilty of fraud and manslaughter.
The world is running out of sharp sand, or at least easily mined sharp sand. Concrete will become more expensive and the incentive to use lower quality desert/river/beach sand will increase.
I spend one summer working for a refrigeration company, now this company uses parts and materials that are from Korea, Japan, and the US which are 2x more expensive than stuff that they can buy from China, I soon learn that the reason they did this is because refrigeration units that are built using Chinese materials will require constant maintanance and will inevitably break down due to the quality of the materials
I work for a top 8 grocery chain in the united states and can assure you that the equipment made here in the USA fails all the time. We are seeing compressors fail left and right, fittings go bad, constant leaks and other quality control related issues. We do not source from China, and we use union labor with quarterly equipment PM's. ALL equipment is engineered with limited duration of run time built in until it breaks and you need to buy new, not just Chinese. While Chinese culture clearer dictates shortcuts, don't fall for the nonsense that because its MADE IN THE USA that it is of quality.
@@cowmath77 I just find it really weeds out the genuine people from the racists who realise that 'planned obsolescence' is the cause of crappy products
@@hughmungus2760 race isnt involved in the judging of cheap chinese crap products, the quality of the crappy products that have consistently come out of china is the reason people talk bad about chinese products and their lifespans
@@justanotherguy6359 you know the only reason why china produces bad products is because of market demand right? If people didn't keep buying it. they wouldn't make it.
5:03 that growth was actually a negative years ago. The Chinese government was giving false counts. More recent data suggests that they haven’t been growing in population and India actually passed them as the most populous nation years ago.
I lived in a community in Beijing for over 20 years that was well built and attractively designed. The apartment I bought was mostly problem free and well maintained by the management company. I sold the apartment at a profit when I left China.
@@peterreston6478 in Beijing. The capital city. Not some distant ghost town in a poor province. Right under the scrutiny of the CCP and all the foreign powers. Even North Korea looks pretty in its capital.
@@peterreston6478Yeaaaah... In capital. Even in Russia, capital city is pretty. But go to, for example, Chelyabinsk, Perm or Kazan and you will see how shitty their cities are.
Chinese guy: Hey my child died in a sketchy school building collapse. Chinese gov: here's 5k Chinese guy: yea but could you do something about the issue? Chinese gov: sounds like someone needs to go to a camp.... to concentrate.
a quick correction on Evergrand the company is Chinas second largest property developer the largest is Country Garden who is now experiencing financial problems.
I would like to teach you a little Chinese. 差不多 (Cha Bu Duo) means "close enough". In interpersonal matters, that's a good thing. You did what you needed to, now don't worry about it. In big scale projects like in buildings and logistics, it's a bad thing, saying that you half-assed something. The CCP is unfortunately appropriating the former towards the latter, and this screws over everyone.
Much ado has been made of '差不多' ever since a couple of youtubers sensationalized it, but this is just the Pareto principle that is common practice around the world. Granted, certain regulations are non-negotiable and modern China has had a history of lax regulatory standards, especially in the 90s and early 2000s, but there is an ongoing trend of much higher regulatory enforcement in China.
@@matthewmosier8439 Is there a point to debating the semantics of 'safety' versus the enforcement of safety regulations? Like I said, China has had a history of lax enforcement of 'safety' standards, especially in the 90s and early 2000s, but there is an ongoing trend of much higher 'safety' enforcement in China.
"there is an ongoing trend of much higher regulatory enforcement in China's wealthiest cities and financial centers" * There, I fixed it. It's still the early 2000's everywhere else.@@unifieddynasty
Can’t believe I just found your channel! Found all this fascinating! I had heard of issues in China’s real estate industry but to hear all of this is surprising. I feel terrible for all the families over there just trying to buy a home or live in properties that can and do fall apart all the time. Gives me a whole new appreciation for the construction and code safeties we have here in the US. Sure it’s not perfect…but it’s a heck of a lot better than over there. Looking forward to checking out the rest of your channel!
I work in industry in the States. I occasionally have to deal with Chinese manufacturing. We have the term "chinesium" for extremely poor quality metals or other materials come out of China
@@chrism3790 Its all about having the proper quality control. If you want to be certain of the quality, you would outsource that task to a 3rd party contractor.
*Sand* Sea sand is round like a ball bearing and you can't stack ball bearings on a hard surface ! River sand has not been rolled and tumbled in the surf for millions of years and is still rough and anglular, it will lock together and stack-up, plus it has no salt crystals in it to shatter from very little pressure being applied to it.
Interesting extra bit of info: There has been a significant political source of aggrivation coming from china stemming from them building all those artifical islands for military bases in ocean waters they claim. It was seen as an agressive act and all those things. Recently read that the majority of those islands are falling apart and sinking back into the sea/ocean/w/e because of the utterly crap concrete they used in their construction.
the islands were a temporary measure until china builds up its bluewater fleet. Once china has a couple of aircraft carriers, some runways on sandbars wouldn't be nessesary.
I think it’s pretty common knowledge that most stuff from china you buy is cheap junk. Which sucks cause like on Amazon now, all you can buy in a lot of cases is random name junk from china. Things like phone chargers or cables….break super quick. People always looking for the cheapest option possible have made this so prevalent.
I owned a manufacturing company. Most equipment is made in China of stainless steel. I had to throw a magnet on literally everything that came in to make sure it was stainless because they lie their asses off about what's in their steel products. This is a huge problem, since so much of the wesrern industry's equipment is made there now. I think the food supply is at risk from it, quite honestly. I mean, I can't see how it isnt. I have heard so many stories about rust on stainless food production equipment.
Some years back they found melamine in baby formula from China. Melamine is what they make unbreakable dishes from. They used melamine because it tricked the diagnostic equipment that is used to test baby formula's protein content. There also was a lot of poisonous pet food imported from China that was killing people's dogs. They also found lead-based paint on children's toys imported from China. The list goes on and on. I would suggest reading labels and not buying anything from China, especially food.
Have you seen videos on chinas counterfeit foods? They have fakes for everything. I’m talk eggs, beef, lamb, noodles, tea leaves and tofu. This is a country that killed thousands of their babies with fake formula. How do you trust buying anything from people that would kill babies for profit?
My dad had a small machine shop. He was a Tool & Die Engineer. Back then it was Japanese steel he worried about. Japanese products were cheaper and not usually well made. We joked about their cars having lawn mower engines. But they improved quickly. Not so with Chinese brand products. Lots of people have been falling for the cheap prices of a Chinese online company. I assumed many would be near worthless and also highly toxic. Because they are a Chinese company you can not even sue them. That is another problem. Well, they are finding toxic crap in even children’s stuff. Again.
Super frustrating. I was in the Navy from 2003 to 2010. I remember how much fake construction was going on even then. Especially towards 2007, a lot of shady stuff was underway.
@@kaboonali5466Epstein’s Island is in the USVI and is a natural island. It was not made by the Chinese. They are building islands in the South China Sea.
We have chinese companies here in Australia doing the same thing not following building code etc. There was a big story about it recently in Sydney. A complex of 900 appartments basically ready to collapse at any time.
Building code is where the problem begins when it comes to issues with apartments and highrise in Australia. While a developer needs to be certified to build residential buildings, they don't need to be when building multi level buildings 🤔 so the developers bring in builders that can get it done fast and cheap so they can sell for a multi million paycheck. All perfectly legal. It's a more common problem than you know. A couple places reported on the news are Opal towers in Homebush bay and also an apartment block that was evacuated and condemned in mosman just can't remember where exactly. I'm a tradesman myself and I've seen some shody work over the years, but I wouldn't be able to say that any nationality is worse than the rest, there is a rotten egg in every bunch.
@@giancarloviglianti3457 Builders really need to be regulated better because there is so much you can hide behind plaster and paint that can't be checked by the buyer and there should be regular checks carried out that hold both the builder and the assessor liable for any shoddy workmanship that is later discovered. For every very new build and extension there should be an obligation on the builder to have an insurance policy in place that covers the repairs for a period of at least 10 years due to defective workmanship. This would weed out cowboy builders and although it would add to the cost of a new build it would protect the buyer. Cowboy builders exist everywhere and Ireland has it's fair share also, over here up to the Financial crash in '08 builders here could self certify which was a disaster but the party in gov at the time were very close to the developers and they were very fond of their political donations.
I'm only halfway through this video but I had to pause and say that you did an outstanding job on it. Like, actually brilliant journalism and planning to be so concise for such a long period of time. Your ability to step through each topic or concept while relating them together seamlessly is a talent that not many people have. When I first saw the 42:00 duration I thought there's no way I'd be watching the whole thing but you've managed to capture my attention and curiosity.
as someone with a few skyscraper constructions under my belt (just a labourer but still had to understand everything) nobody was wondering how they were building quickly, we all knew it was gonna start crashing down
Hell I've only worked at highest a three story building and that still takes a good while if you want it done right. Demanding everything be done quickly and parts made fast means its going to be trash on top of a massive incentive for corruption that causes.
@@SL420- depends, one company paid for a hotel room, another i was working with a friend so i just crashed with him. the hotel room was actually super convenient cause it was downtown and literally 2 blocks from the job site, like 10 min walk at most
To be honest the fact that the real estate industry in China is moving towards housing for living rather than speculation is absolutely a good thing (for the chinese people) even if in the short term it would lead to massive shrinkage in the market and having to demolish these ghost cities and will probably lead to higher quality housing meant for living and not just as an asset, the idea that chinese construction has getting worse over the years is copium. The downside is that so as long as other countries continue to use housing as an asset and fail to control foreign real estate investment, rich chinese money is going to flow into foreign markets and continue to make housing expensive in other countries, exactly what Australia and Canada has been experiencing.
I was working for air compressor company many years ago, and I was sent to Hong Kong to inspect our new electric motor division there. I was told by some engineers under no circumstances, should I stay in any skyscraper, or even a building over three stories high. Now I understand why.😂
@yinlanyeates2190 Ever since the handover and the CCP breaking the agreement, what makes you think Hong Kong is immune to this? It's not special anymore, just another city ruined by the Mainland
The real estate issue here in China is complex. In reality here, a 'private' firm (which is usually tied to the government), buys the land from the government with a lease term of 50-80 years. The government always holds the land, but you are allowed to have an apartment on it for at least the term of the 'lease'. Previously, once a construction company started working, they would get a loan against the pre-built apartments from the bank, and then continue to finance through the sale of these pre-built apartments. For small cities, this created an incentive for companies to pre-sell a whole community, and run off with the money leaving all investors with an empty field. Sometimes they would build one building, sometimes they would almost get completed, and then the company would fold, and you would be SOL. If you did get lucky enough that they built your community, you understood that the materials they used were almost always of the cheapest quality to maintain low costs until they recouped the loans. If your construction company goes out of business before they pay the bank off, you can't get the property certificate. Even if you can live in the apartment, and have paid your loan to the bank or to the developer, you can not get the property certificate if the developer themselves hasn't paid off their portion of the loan holding your apartment as collateral. If that happens, no one will help you, and you will have lost your savings, lost your security, and are back at 0.
I remember watching ADV China on their motorbike tour of China driving through newly built ghost cities, it was absolutely insane the scope of construction going on.
@@jacksmith-mu3eewhen they were filming their adventures in China they were happy to learn the different cultures and loved the friendliness of rural Chinese people. it wasn't jealousy that forced them to leave. China has a lot of potential and I'm sure they will happily tour again when your regime is ousted.
It is amazing if that concreate even cured properly as adding stuff to concreate mixture may prevent it from cureing( good example is sugar, as adding sugar will ruing entire batch, which historically was used by saboteurs). Like Salt? NaCl? AND Chloride ions on itself? With acidic nature of concrette itself? It creates a chemical buffor which may go on preventing normal chemical reactions in the mixture.
Exactllyyyy, even here in America I see freshly poured slabs start getting framed within a week and when I’d demo flooring like travertine wood tile etc, the newer homes foundation slabs would get ate up by our grinders so much we had to be extra careful vs a home built in the 40s it was solid and our grinders wouldn’t make a dent in the concrete, so if it’s like that here in PHX AZ I can only imagine how bad the buildings are in China and that’s scary
The engineering marvel that went into the Hoover damn considered the same curing times for concrete. They had to design it differently so it would cure properly and in a reasonable amount of time.
@@karlwithak. China's GDP per capita is a mere fraction of the the US. I don't know where you're getting your info from, but it's clearly wrong (by an order of magnitude).
@@karlwithak. So that's why the death count for China's population is increasing dramatically per year with some deaths unknown since the government there hides anything and everything. Sounds like a REALLY healthy and wealthy lifestyle.
For the concrete factor, river sand also is more coarse than beach sand which is more round (think of putting a rock into a rock tumbler). The sand helps to hold the cement portion together for the concrete, so having smoother sand is a problem over the other chemicals that also may contribute to it.
To my knowledge, concrete aggregate and sand in the US are often ground up mechanically from suitable rock. Digging up river banks is very destructive, and finding good deposits which are not in river banks is difficult.
This reminds me of the tainted sheet rock from China that was sold in the US around 2008-2010. A coworker's brother built a new home around that time that contained the tainted sheet rock and he ended up getting very very sick from the fumes coming from the sheet rock.
How is that even possible. Isn't sheet rock meant to be like a solid sheet of rock that has been sliced off of a base. I don't understand how sheet rock is made but also I don't understand how could possibly be made badly. Let alone in a way that would release fumes. Please I beg of you explain this to me I need to know
@@lornbaker1083 Sheet rock is better described as gypsum board. It consists of a gypsum slurry between 2 sheets of heavy paper, then baked in a kiln.. The gypsum slurry in the Chinese sheet rock was full of all kinds of toxic contaminants that off gassed into the interior of the homes where it was used. The gases are highly corrosive to metals and poisonous to humans and pets. Check out "Chinese drywall" on Wikipedia for a full rundown of the stuff. There's no way that the Chinese manufacturers didn't know that the crap they were selling wasn't actually toxic waste.
My husband use to work for an architecture firm and 20+ years ago they knew China was robbing peter to pay Paul for their construction projects. The firms were just happy to take the money.
Reminds me of mainland Chinese infrastructure projects in the Global South I am concerned how long they will last Italy dodged a bullet by leaving belt and road initiative
that happened everywhere, military, trains, planes, infrastructure, and even in the food sector, fake food or using sewer oil is normal! 80% of groundwater it poisoned!
@@GwainSagaFanChannel Italy has functional aqueducts that are twenty centuries old. Doesn't sound like the sort of country that would make for a good BTI fit.
In Germany, (east Germany, at least ) we call concrete damaged by salty sand / gravel Betonkrebs, in the GDR it was mostly common in railroad ties which were manufactured with Baltic-sea sand & gravel
My meemaw lives in rural bf nowhere China in a village. I remember after the earthquake I had a rare chance to call her (since communication between china and the US is weird when it comes to villages) cause I was really worried. She's HELLA old. Like, she makes titanic look spry. But I could hear her tapping the walls of her home on the phone with her cane and she was so proud of it. Loosely translated: "We build with our hands and for our hearts out here. It takes 20 years to make home but it will take more than nature or time to knock it down." Most of the homes in the villages had minor damage. I think it was the farms that sustained the worst from what I remember. Been a while. A few barns. The government properties were messy though. Homes that had been there for fifty years though? Roof tiles and windows at the worst lol. She said it was fixed within a week. Most of the village has left for greener pastures of the city; or at least they had by that point. Recently kids that had left have started moving back after getting educated. Most would rather do physical labor and require questionable self-sufficience than be restricted and scared. Crazy how that works.
All of this suppression, covering up, and rework following construction disasters has got to be so much more expensive than just doing it right the first time. I just can't understand chasing short-term profits so aggressively that this sort of thing keeps happening.
It starts to make more sense when you understand how decisions get made at the top. It's just some people in an office looking at data and they often makes decisions completely divorced from any notion of practicality. They don't know (or care) how things actually get done.
well you on the top.. geeting golden handshakes and such. only thing you need to worrie about is making the companie look good all way up too the end were it all collaps.. you are now rich and can walk away from it laffing you ass off.. will you geet hired as top dog in a bank or so.. or simply live off you money too you die of old age on you private island.. see they dont care about workers on ground lossing ther home. becus they got money too move away from the peasants
Because often the fallout doesn't occur until after the men who made the profit have left and they might not be held accountable tho often when things go very very wrong they do punish the cheaters who get caught
I'm from Brazil and when you mentioned about sea sand being used on the construction this made me remind of the Palace 2 building collapse that happened on Rio De Janeiro in 1998. This was a condo building that was built with poor quality materials including sea sand and it was up to this day one of the most tragic collapses in my country.
13:30 (hearing about steel being stretched until it goes from a diameter of 10 mm to 8.5 mm) Normal person: “I mean yeah it’s weaker but it can’t be THAT bad” An engineer who understands stress-strain: “you fucking WHAT”
There were videos of people filming inside their apartment where the apartment wasn't level. balls rolling to one side of the room, the doors and cabinets swinging open and things like that. Imagine that living in a real life tower of pisa. Just horrifying.
Here in the Netherlands we build our houses very solid, on support beams and with reinforced concrete. Still, you can do the same things here with balls rolling and closets swinging open. Even reinforced concrete can bend over time and furniture presses down into the floor insulation. We fix that by putting wood or plastics chips under furniture to level it. Try it in your own house. Unless it was built less than a few years ago, the balls will roll. This is no indication of bad build quality.
@@TheSuperappelflap What no, unless you live over a sinkhole or on the grachten van Amsterdam every house I've been in in the Netherlands is solid and flat. No tower of pisa constructions as far as I've ever seen. Even the houses in Groningen with the cracks won't lean as far to one side as those pisa appartments in China. Like you do realise that sometimes those buildings in China literally collapse right? That does not happen here, it's not comparable what are you even thinking what? You live in the Netherlands, our building codes are not ever going to allow such shoddy work. I miss the Netherlands
@@basbekjenl Yeah, no, most houses arent level. Try the experiment with the ball in the Netherlands. Most houses it will either roll to one side or to the center of the room. We build concrete houses in a swamp. Even with proper foundations, that just makes sure they dont sink into the swamp completely, it doesnt mean they stay perfectly level over decades. If you go into a 300 year old house in Amsterdam the tilt is noticeable with the naked eye. This doesnt mean those houses arent safe to live in. I just meant to say, a house not being perfectly level isnt necessarily proof of bad construction. Bad construction is bad construction.
I once visited an Ai Weiwei exhibition, they had piles of salvaged sub-diameter rebar from buildings after the Sichuan earthquake, along with interviews with affected families. One of the most heartbreaking experiences of my life.
In Mumbai, when they made the first metro line in 2013, the government had contracted a Chinese company for the locomotive units. First week on launch, the roof of one train started leaking heavily under the brutal monsoons of Mumbai. Chinesium at its finest. Since then, local companies have stepped up and the government almost never contracts Chinese companies for metro rails.
India best achievements so far India's Hunger index 2013: 63rd rank 2022: 107th rank India's Happiness index. 2013: 111th rank 2022: 136th rank India's press freedom rank 2013:79th 2022: 150the the fourth pillar of worlds largest democracy is no more India's unemployment rate 2013:4.9% 2023:7.5% Unemployment rate never increase in growing economy.. india is growing only on paper and by loan India's Debt before 2014: ₹55 lakh crore 2023: ₹155 lakh crore India's GDP from 2004 to 2014: $709 billion to 2.04 trilion (almost triple) India's GDP from 2014to 2024: $2.04 trillion to 3.6 trilion (expected)...not even double
I work in construction and I used to be one of those complainers about building codes, I just wanted to get on to the next project. Now I appreciate the redundancy that goes into projects especially where large crowds will be using the facilities. That being said there are abuses where there is no obvious need for a building permit at that point it becomes easy revenue for cites and municipalities.
I was a tour guide on one of the Yangtze River cruises in China when the 3 Gorges Dam was under construction. It was huge! Massive, Enormous, Gigantic don't even begin to describe the scale of that thing. We sailed past it twice every 10 days, once on the upstream voyage, then again on the downstream. What was most amazing was sailing over a hundred miles upstream and realizing this was still going to be underwater when it was complete. Entire towns and cities that would be underwater, and the government building cities further up the hill and forcibly moving all those displaced people into them. It was amazing to see. If that dam ever fails, the results would be absolutely catastrophic. There are so many cities and towns and millions of people downstream of that dam. It would be devastating.
@ith-mu3ee There are satalight photos that show it is bending out of shape. Also picture by tourists showing cracks in the dam in the ship locks area. It will fail. Also there was a report from an old Chinese civil engineer who did work on the possibility of building the dam in the 1950's and he said they could not do it because the underlying ground structure was not stable enough.
Yeah, the book End of an Era describes this. It also mentions some really great feats of engineering. Both are obviously possible in China but the current climate is concerning.
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the gall to post this video after East Palestine, Florida Champlain Towers South, the recent boeing issues, countless number of oil spills in-land and on-shore, fatal bridge collapses and the dam failures a few years back. The absolute blinders a person must have to spit on a neighbor while living in an open roof shake
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I don't know how old you are but we had a similar situation during the financial crisis 2008.
Banks just wouldn't lend money because they were afraid to lose it.
The financial crisis plus the housing bubble destroyed many existences and many people have to struggle with the the banking schemes that were responsible for the situation even today.
The 57 day building was serious miss mixed with fail on your part in this case. As it was mostly using prefabricated elements and only on-site works took 19 days, preparations were much longer. And yeah, here comes your fail, it wasn't 57 days, it was 19 days for 57 stories building. Plus this building as it was a show piece is probably highest quality building in the neighbourhood. Someone from country where homes are built out of shit, wood and paper should know how prefabrication speeds up building process. PS. I diss you only on this one because rest of your video is correct. Problem is that when you have even one thing wrong and so blatantly wrong both in data and concept it is enough to disqualify your whole video for majority of undecided, slightly warm towards China.
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I'm a real estate inspector in Houston. A few years ago, I looked at a plumbing rough-in done by a Chinese plumbing firm. When I asked them if they knew these drain pipes required a vent pipe, the reply was, :Yeah, we knew. We just didn't think anyone would look."
Thanks for sharing that. A very telling and disturbing incident.
It's Enron in State form.
Their situation is also ‘MADOFF’ in a state form. Every way that China can grab someone’s money is in their playbook. How terrible for the people and culture!!
If that was just the vent pipe, what else did they hide?
NEVER buy anything from China, or let a contractor company from China work on something you want built.
I saw a video where a lady in China crashed her car into a fire hydrant only to find out that it was not kooked up to anything. There were no pipes, just dirt underneath.
Apparently that's super common.
Drainage grates will open up to dirt beneath.
How is that supposed to help drain anything? 🤣
@@claytondenton2385that sounds like a good way to form sinkholes under your roads too.
@@deadturret4049it's currently happening & it's not going to stop 😂 😮😂
Technically, there is a fire hydrant there,good enough for building codes right? It reminds of Hackworth writing in "About Face" that South Vietnamese helicopter maintenance crews thought checking off the task on the checklist was "good enough". After all, it got them paid right?
Sadly a new tunnel there flooded suddenly during a traffic jam. Thousands died. This stuff can have consequences
We have some chinese kids come for a two year program when i was in high-school.
One of the boys was absolutely obsessed with punching everything. He would wrap up his hand and punch the brick wall. The lockers. The doors. Even the wire meshed glass on the doors.
He would slam his feet into the floor he would just generally act like a hot blooded crazy guy.
Well, after gaining the ability to communicate with our phones i learned why he spent the first two weeks smashing his hand into our school.
He was amazing nothing broke. Thats it. He was actually impressed he couldn't damage bricks... he was amazed the pipes in the boys bathroom could support our body weight by a magnitude.
He was impressed he couldn't put his foot through the floor tiles.
I felt so weird showing him my car.
It was a original bone stock 1972 delta 88 with a big block v8.
That car had been in my family for three generations. And he could not believe its age and that it still functioned enough i drove it daily.
When i took him on a dirt road and showed him how a heavy as shit classic car with a big block feels as it floats down the road he was ready to cry.
These people dont know any better. And its awful.
My father happened to visit a friend's new apartment in China where renovation crew was planning to work on the kitchen. He saw them planning to drill through a load-bearing concrete pillar to create a path for the fume hood vent. He warned the owner and the crew to not do that and to consult building management. Next time he popped by, the vent went right through the pillar and he can see the exposed rebar. Just unreal.
Of course they did. They don't care. When are people going to wake up and stop buying/hiring Chinese? I hope your friend got out of there.
my hydro flossing device went bad after couple of months of usage , took it apart and water was at the electronic compartment and flooded the motor as well , was made in China , they just copy whatever they can and they hope it will work as the original 😂😂@@WobblesandBean
I'm surprised there was any rebar 😮😅
Prob'ly Plastic Rebar anyhow..!
But it was at least Recycled Plastic..!😂
China used up so much Ocean Sand to build these projects that the world is running out of Beach sand. Look it up, it's true.
I worked for a company that had international schools built in Shanghai. The last one built was started in early April and finished by the start of the new school year in August. They work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and at night they had very little lighting. On day one, the roof leaked, and throughout my time there, multiple major issues arose.
We used to have a joke that the Chinese could build anything and make it look instantly "old".
Was this concord in Pudong? Heard it was a bit rough but a big chunk of that blame goes to the investor pushing for schedule … I’m at another school recently being completed. Investor’s own construction company built it and the quality’s amazing …
Isn't the phrase «three meter architecture», stuff looking ok so long as you don't get closer to it than three metres?
Your description of the construction itself reminds me on the Olkiluoto nuclear reactor in Finland. A friend of mine removes dangerous material like contaminated stuff or asbestos full time. He said no one knows how many different companies from who knows how many different countries worked on that reactor. China is asshoe, but we don't have to look that far to find shitty constructions. Is that city, Flint or what it was called, finally having clean water? I think you get what I want to say.
If it that bad in Shanghai....why do you work in Shanghai then?......😂😂😂.... You should have go back to US after 24 hours working in China.....Idiotic logic....😂😂😂
@@mrpeacecraft Last I heard, nope - still no clean water.
Having your apartment flooded with sewage is definitely bad, but it's not as bad as walking out of your 24th story apartment door and realizing there's nothing there, just a 24-story hole because part of the building collapsed and you're now trapped in your apartment
This happened to a chinese guy, the stairs leading to the ground floor colapsed during the night. So he woke up trapped in the 4° floor
Notice the man cleaning the toilet in this video rubs all over the toulet bowl and then immedietly to all the hand surfaces
@@jessnalulila5552 I think I remember this being on the news here. If I recall correctly, the man's boss hit him with a "You're still coming into work, right?"
Not so smaht now chin-a-man.
@@jakewillits4678yeah, that was rough. Even if you trust the amount of bleach you're using, you clean the areas that people will touch with their hands first, and then do the areas that got blasted by the most germs. Or at the very least, don't cross-contaminate from the toilet seat/bowl to literally anywhere else.
My degree is in supply chain management, and for the capstone project my class toured a plant that made custom office furniture for Boeing. We had a Chinese exchange student in the class with us. When the plant manager was conducting the tour he said "we source all of our gears from Germany due to the very strict tolerances required." The exchange student went on to call German engineering "like giving a disabled child a set of blocks" and China can do anything Germany can better by 10 times. The plant manager just laughed at him.
The brainwashing over there is insane.
Perhaps he thought he was being monitored.
Xi disguised as a todler l:🙎🏻
Plenty of brainwashing going on over here.
they can build high quality and low quality products.... usain bolt is from jamica doesnt mean all jamicians can run as fast as him... Same with china
@@stevenschultz9637mixed bag. Parents fear monitoring, child does the monitoring. Bolshevik policy of the USSR reimplemented by the Kaifeng of the CCP.
The German bunkers left over from WWII are some of the best architectures left in China.. Go figure.
Some old bunkers in Berlin have SO MUCH rebar that they can shrug off heavy artillery shells like they are nothing.
@@Likwidfox there were no Germans in China in WW11
@@xhagastdamn
@@david6135 In northern China. The Germans tried to take over the whole world not just Europe.
@@david6135probably meant to say WW1, Germany had a few ports for trade and such, and obviously since there was some coercion to take them from China, they were well fortified.
I work for an import company in the EU and when my boss, the CEO thought of bringing in stuff from China, he talked to a Chinese business man friend. They're in totally different businesses. So the Chinese guy said that the only way to get good quality products from China is to have your own inspector keep an eye on things constantly at the factory. Otherwise they'll cut corners and produce bad quality. So that's fun. We're not importing from China.
Goes beyond that as well. They'll also steal the designs and technology and/or produce more of the product with different branding to sell themselves (if only locally).
"We're not importing from China." Smart decision!
Used to be in precision optics and we ordered low grade stuff for some basic applications from our Chinese factory. Quality control would usually reject 50 to 60% of anything they sent us. It was ridiculous.
@@peterslaby9782 "Quality control would usually reject 50 to 60% of anything they sent us." Yikes!
@@jim2376 the Chinese machines they were using themselves had such terrible tolerances that even after calibrating them (which probably wasn’t often enough) this was probably the best they could do. China does not have the capability nor the mentality for precision work.
The issue with sea sand is not only the contaminants but that is very fine and smooth, is the same reason that desert sand is not used in construction
Not all the sea sand is smooth like the desert sand, but still it has to be processed to remove the organic material and undesired parts, and the chloride is an issue too.
@fenrirgg
The worse part about that Is the fact that the sea sand is not treated at all
@fenrirgg
The worse part about that Is the fact that the sea sand is not treated at all
'Building' sand is known as 'sharp'sand as, when examined closely is jagged and rough which bonds solidly with cement and aggregates,sea sand is approx. spherical so can't grip,it's been worn into shape by the sea over millenia and is useless for construction.
My favorite fact that demonstrates the importance of using the right type of sand in concrete is that Saudi Arabia imports sand from Finland
Another big problem with sea sand is that the constant wave action rubs the grains against each other, rounding off the sharp edges. Normal sand contributes to the concrete’s strength, because the sharp grains lock against each other. The rounded grains of sea sand don’t do this, making the resulting concrete up to 30% weaker. (And you’re right about the problems caused by salt content as well.)
you could just engineer around the problem. I think by now the chinese state is well aware that its impossible to fully prevent these kinds of corruption slipping into even major infrastructure projects. So all major state funded projects are mandated to have much higher safety margins to prevent spectacular failures.
Thats was the reason behind building the three gorges dam as a gravity dam rather than a concave dam. Because state officials didn't have the confidence the construction industry Wouldn't cut corners so they engineered in a failsafe. The dam itself is so heavy that even if it were rubble. it would still hold back the water.
That also applies to desert sand - which is also not well suited for building. Thus the emirates import a lot a sand into the desert,
@@gwahli9620 Oh, very interesting, thanks for that tidbit!
@@hughmungus2760 Interesting thought! Personally, I think that’s too wide a span for an arch design to work, and it’d also demand a lot from the rock on either side, since an arch transfers so much of the load to its moorings. I also suspect that just rubble could hold back the water over the long term (Is it true that the dam has shifted by as much as a few centimeters in some places? I read that once, but don’t know its provenance.) But the idea of over-engineering to account for corruption is an interesting one. The inky problem is you don’t necessarily know how much corruption there’ll be :-)
@@DaveEtchells if there was subsidence because of the sheer weight of the dam, thats entirely possible. All structures have subsidence.
As a civil engineer, your explanation of building material such as concrete is spot on.
On a side note, I hate how YT makes you use double speak to avoid getting flagged and/or demonetized.
Double speak brother! You called it.
YT is doubleplusungood.
I love how YT warns you about something you said, but never tells you what it was that caused them the heartburn.
"You wrote something that hurt someone's feelings."
"What was it I said."
"Something."
Hate speech is anything that the Left hates to hear
Yeah because RUclips sold out to the same horrible people this video is talking about, it’s the same reason you can’t talk about islam openly
I remember our science teacher in high school(who taught all the science classes, it was a tiny private school lol) showing us a demonstration of how the ingredients used in concrete affected it's strength and resilience. He split us into groups and presented us with big bins of different materials to mix together to see who could make the steongest concrete. We had to use what we had learned over the semester to figure it out.
There was one bin of river silt, one of beach sand, one of commercial crushed gravel, one of smooth river rocks, etc. One of the groups asked if they could attempt to make the weakest mixture and he said absolutely, that's a perfect example for the project.
So they mixed together a high amount of beach sand with river rocks and just about the least amount of cement they could get away with, and the resulting blocks could literally be crumbled with a slight squeeze. We had so much fun doing "karate" demonstrations with them 😂
He then explained that that was essentially what they used to build a lot of buildings in China. We were dumbfounded. "Wouldn't they just collapse?", we asked. His response was, "They do. All the time. And people die."
Excellent video as always, Stak.
I'm glad to hear your teacher was so enthusiastic about the attempt at the weakest. It sounds like he left an impression on you and, most likely, the rest of that class.
It reminds me of a science teacher I had when I was 15ish that, one day a year, welcomed his students every period while munching down chalk. He spent that day burping a bunch, but also taught us (using that wonderfully memorable demonstration) that antacids and chalk are basically the same thing barring some food colouring and flavouring.
I've had to employ this knowledge 2 or 3 times in my life when I've had terrible heartburn but no access to antacids 😅
Actual common Chinese proverb is and i quote, "If you can cheat then cheat" end quote. Let that sink in!!!
Great story btw i might do that
didn't have any volcanic ash? It was an important part of roman concrete, considered to be the strongest of all concrete
@@lornbaker1083 It is the lime in the roman concrete that makes it so good cause when it gets wet it expands and fills its cracks pretty much self repairing concrete. There was an MIT paper about it about a year ago.
Worked in the steel wire reinforcment industry for 15 years, you know rebar...
We ordered Chinese steel one time just to see why it was so cheap. It was certified high carbon steel by Chinese labs.
And it was hot garbage, those certs were forged. Inconsistent tensile and carbon throughout the rolls. Was so bad it all went in the scrap hopper, our machines couldn't run it without damage.
So yeah, we saw this coming over a decade ago.
It is about putting on the appearance of competence and quality. "Saving face" is paramount, even if it is a lie. It is a cultural mindset over there that comes off very alien in the west. I mean, there's deep seeded cultural reasons why Chinese Dynasties were so cyclic and would become so riddled with corruption and faults the longer they went on. It's just weird that you see the same follies in their industry in the modern era...
News flash: The Chinese don't own China. They're owned by the same syndicate that owns 'Murica. But the sheep don't care. As such, they'll bleat loudly for awhile... And then disappear. Forever.
@@planescapedit goes incredibly deep. I remember a Chinese friend asking me to eat lunch with him. We were at my place when I was living in China. There was just me and him. I said "I'm ok I'm just not hungry, go ahead and eat". And he said "Please eat with me?" I was like "why, I'm really just not hungry right now. I'm feeling bloated." He said "Please, just eat something. Give me face." I didn't understand at all. Only much later did I understand the distress I'd caused because he felt he'd lost face by my not joining him. Even though it was just me and him in the privacy of my apartment! A completely foreign and alien concept to a European like me. And so intense...
This happened with DRYWALL from china decades ago
And their logic is so flawed. You will never get a repeat customer selling that garbage
The ghost cities are still oddly disturbing to me. So much wasted effort on empty, unlivable, space. What a waste.
The more I learn about communism and the like, throughout history, the more I realize that as crazy as Reagan era red scare rhetoric sounded, it was all completely justified on the foundation of this ideology that promises a perfect world, and delivers never ending atrocities
Nice lookn buildings but worthless without folks in em and now they're blowing up hole blocks....oof
I think it'd be scarier if people were living in those tofu dreg cities. Then when a slight breeze collapses them...
@@TheSquigy fair point....god damn tho it is a shame that recreation of Paris is left dead...
Growth for growth's sake is the mantra of cancer.
I cant understand how a country known for earthquakes refuses to put any money into infrastructure strong enough to survive earthquakes
Its easy to survive when people aren’t cared about.
What're the Chinese words for "oppie-doodlie"?
Greed and lost of moral values. Because they dont believe in God.
Because that money is instead pocketed by the people in charge of the projects
Japan is more known for earthquakes and luckily they are putting money for infrasturcture to survive earthquakes
Even years ago people were saying thing were being built w/out the same safety standards we see in the US hence why it was done so fast. But building codes are written in blood. That’s why we have them.
I always thought safety standards they were violating was regarding Workers life. Which they are. but yeah, Turns out until 2022-2023 I had no idea what safety violation really was about.😅
@@elinisguy it is more it takes longer due to bureaucracy and getting your work permits accepted as well as built sufficient electric and water infrastructure
@@GwainSagaFanChannel some people would argue all of that is just red tape meant to make things more expensive for the common person
In case of war we really need better digital electric water infrastructure that is better protected against hacking attempts and also expand this infrastructure to build more housing otherwise you put to much stress on the already existing infrastructure
@@sookendestroy1 I mean have you heard of demand and supply currently there is a higher demand than supply for this sort of things like its easy to say build more housing but you need to provide adequate infrastructure
I'm a construction engineer in Sydney. A few years ago, I was called to inspect a crack on a posh high rise constructed by an Australian developer. Most residents have to be evacuated due to serious structural cracks in the building. The homeowners tried to reach a settlement with the developer and they paid them 15 cents on the dollar. The founder of the company then bought a $20m mansion and continued building houses.
Mascot? Was all over the news, hope it’s resolved.
Hmmm, I guess they don’t have guns Down Under.
I was fortunate enough to be able to travel in China for a month in 2007. I kinda wanted to buy a a beach house on Lantau Island (in Repulse Bay-Hong Kong). The house existed,was finished, but the wife was not nearly as interested/impressed with the house as I was…so I don’t have a Chinese beach house. Probably a good thing.
If someone owes you ¥50,000 they are in debt. If someone owes you ¥5T you are FU*KED!
It was Mascot indeed. The buyers only got back 15% of their money and lost their life savings. @@Rill-sn8nz
Since reading “Poorly Made in China “ I have been on hyper alert against Chinese products. This all checks out.
Not telling you your suspicion is wrong, but it sounds like the quote of « listen what you want to hear » kind of mindset.
@@JustWannaKnowSince2008 partially because even some domestically made products can be shit too, and sometimes you can be overly cautious
There are two channels for Chinese products.
* Stuff sold through Amazon/Ebay
* Stuff sold through well known high street retailers.
The first is totally unregulated, the second is (they have to comply with EU regs).
Famously the factory that makes DJI drones has a separate engineering/quality path for drones headed for the EU compared with those sold locally.
The ones destined for local consumption fail very quickly. The EU ones do not.
I saw a video where someone was taking a hammer to the wall on top of a large, newly constructed road bridge - the wall was literally a concrete skim over a core of cardboard. Not 'special' cardboard of some kind, it was bundles of recycled packaging. At least it wasn’t load bearing.
Not as if their steel rebar is any better. Even a child could bend it.
the columns supporting the same bridge were surely the same.
Wasn't there a bridge façade or was it a building façde dad's from Styrofoam?
I remember seeing a video of workers placing empty glass bottles before pouring out the concrete.
Ironically enough. My great grandfather on my dad's side was kinda crazy? And obsessed with cardboard. So the house that he built literally used it as insulation. My grandpa his son told me he'd insert it into his jackets.
Goodness, the idea of the 3 gorges dam being a tofu drag project sure is alarming. It makes me wonder if the claims of it being resistant to tactical nukes are true or not.
its not resistant to above the normal water amount, so what makes you think its nuke proof XD
I wonder if it is even resistant to tactical nudes.
@@tiii4017 I do remember hearing claims that it would be nuke proof during its construction. I don't remember where I heard them and I thought they were pretty crazy at the time.
@@tiii4017to be fair most dams cant handle morr than the normal amount they hold back
There is very few things that are resistant to tactical nukes
"Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build bridges even when there are no rivers."
-Nikita Khrushchev
Now that is a quote I wish I heard sooner
I think my favorite part is who said it. that’s the Soviet dictator during the Cuban missile crisis right there
@@TheMantisLord50 I wouldn't really call him a dictator. He was relatively the most liberal Soviet leader and was forced to retire when he screwed up the Cuban crisis. Not something a dictator would do.
He was a dictator, imo USSRs best one, but still a dictator by definition @@ixian_technocrat
@tesy21 no, dictator is someone like Hitler, who will murder your entire family if you dare to criticize him, not someone who is forced to step down after other elites in government call him out on his mistakes.
You can say the goverment is a dictatorship but the leader is no dictator. Post Stalinist soviet union is more of an oligarchy. You are at the whims of key supporters, those who are in control of the military, security apparatus, whoever commands the politburo and ect
One of my brothers for years now regularly travels to China on business for his employer. He told me he has never seen the sun there. It's always hazy. My other brother's employer gifted the whole company a trip to Beijing about 10 years ago. He said he didn't really see anything of the city, it was too foggy to see further than a couple of 100 metres.
And why is that? Is it pollution
@@FactsandReelsForall Sure it's pollution. Mostly from unfiltered industry plants
Things have changed so much in the past 10 years. not much pollution at all except in the winter.
@@garylee9668 Utter rubbish!
@@mikethespike7579 i'm pretty sure you've never been China in the past few years.
Also, I once talked with someone who was on a business trip in Wuhan (that one) in 2019, not a friend, but just an acquaintance at a party.
He colourfully described those apartment districts as the most depressing feeling place in the world. For Americans, imagine very closely built projects (or extra huge Khrushchevkas for ex-USSR users), faceless appartment buildings, but not as a block, but blocks upon blocks stretching in all directions for miles, like a bad dream. Like they were driving through that place at a good pace for seemingly an hour and the view did not change at all, same buildings in an unending nightmare forest
I'm reminded of dubais mcmansion suburbs. Where dozens of rows of buildings look identical. I will never understand building that way. Even a difference in exterior color would make all the difference
So there are places in china that are basically back rooms but outdoors?
Doesn't strike me with disbelief tbh...
Just look at the hundreds of thousands of homeless in New York, SFO , LA, Houstons , Dallas, Seattle....etc...etc.... and not to mention the gettos in these cities......YOU SHOULD BE ASHAME OF USA INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT CHINA.....😂😂😂
its the same in my country SIngapore....93% of the housing and architecture here look like dystopian pruitt igoe utilitarian cookie cutter concrete hells.......and worse these so called public housing units goes for an average price of $500k SGD on the secondary market for the entry level apartments ......but i have never heard of nothing but praise from the world about SIngapore for some reason....
if u look at the documentary chernoblyat that came out a few years back, the scene where they showed the town of pripyat back in the 80s just before the incident happened and the town was permanently abandoned.....before it was overrun by forest growth....it would look exactly like SIngapore housing.
of course, there are newer and bigger apartments constantly build in the country but if u go to the older parts, and the older flats.....it would look exactly the same as soviet era public housing.
its like the same as housing in hong kong.
although i agree China is worse, considering the size of their population...iv seen videos of it, one neighbourhood is literally like one giant concrete concourse where the rows of shops on the ground floor are and the blocks of flats goes on and on for as far as the eye can see, u literally cant see where the concrete starts or ends,because its nothing but concrete,there are stairs and overhead bridges winding around the concrete metropolis sure but the concrete literally covers everything......there was nothing to intersperse the monotony.....like a small park or a river or lake or a field or natural features as u walk down the center of the blocks of "apartments"....its just one giant concrete foyer or center walkway and block after block after block of tall apartment buildings right next to each other for at least half a km.... like the center of a city in another country but 20 times bigger.....gigantic monolithic megalithic.....
i think most westerners dont understand exactly how lucky they are......to live in countries with large spaces and low population density.
@@jont2576 but but everyone simps for Singapore's housing policy why are you spreading lies and falsehoods
I love the way the hired professional cleaner in the hazmat suit cleaned the toilet rim first before moving on to the parts where human hands touch, like the handle to flush the toilet. all the while continuing to use the same sponge. Then over to another area where we touch with our bare hands all with fresh toilet germs. Can't unsee that.
Stuck out to me so bad. What the fuck, stock footage companies.
It was making my eye twitch
Using a reusable sponge was weird to start with; do people use sponges on toilets? I’m grossed out by the image of where that sponge is used next.
If they're using the sort of chemicals I used back when I worked janitorial in college, it's not the germs you should worry about. That stuff was super caustic.
Been there. There are few public standard toilets and they are not cleaned as it's beneath the worker to do so it seems. Slit at ground level toilets were more common and ripped up paper is toilet paper.
Private homes were ok.
There was a massive mall built and one toy maker moved in. A reporter kept checking on him. He would maybe sell one toy a week and had no revenue to help his family. There were no other stores anywhere in the massive mall. Just him and stores that came and went, but the place was eerily quiet.
In china a 2 year old is run over by a truck in a busy market. The kid's mom is nowhere to be found. And shoppers step over the twitching dying child on their way to buy food cooked in gutter oil.
There is no concern for human life there. So. Safety standards are just a nuisance that lowers profits.
@@michaela.754 proof or just demonising. In America 11 children were shot in school. The police didn’t attend for one hour. Well known fact
If I remember correctly. I believe I heard if you try and help a person, you can be held financially liable after.
I believe i also heard that if you hit a pedestrian its better to have killed them than only injured them. It's supposedly why you see people after an accident running the person over again intentionally. I dont know if it's true but I've seen footage showing accidents where this is done that appears to be China.
China doesn’t have “good samaritan” laws
Attempting to help someone in need of medical aid can open you up to… financial issues
Sea sand also contains a lot of silica cement doesn't bond well. Silica doesn't absorb water that's why it's used in water filtration. I worked for a swimming pool filtration company and someone stole bags of silica sand and built a wall he came back to us and said his wall fell down then tried to blame us. Another company used building sand in some filters and they clogged up the pressure went so high it damaged some pipes. Moral of the story don't use materials unsuitable for the job.
This guy who stole the silica is really dumb
I thought that's why the romans used volcanic ash in their concrete. Because the water would continue to actually make it more Resistant. And despite their use of lead pipes They use silica sand and charcoal for filtration
Got to love the nerve of the filter sand thief trying to blame you for his wall falling over! Was his name trump? 😅
Sounds like his sort of behaviour! 😮
The rounded smooth silica or sea sand does'nt develope a good grip on portland cement. It's ok for indoor plaster, not structural concrete.
Silica is literally used in dehumidifying packets. You find them in all manner of food and clothing packaging. E.g. jerky, purses, shoes, glasses, etc.
Silica is an EXCELLENT absorber of water, the problem is that it absorbs and dries super fast, unlike other rocks. Water evaporating quickly leaves tiny holes, thus leaving a swiss cheese concrete.
Also, it's smooth, not sharp edged.
I work for a concrete company and it's honestly impressive they cut so many corners and yet their buildings last as long as they do
Any good contractor in the US does slump tests on every load of concrete, and takes random rodded-cylinders for compression and quality testing. If the concrete passes these tests, it is near certainty it meets structural code requirements.
@@billderinbaja3883does a slump test test the quality of concrete or the amount of water for workability?
@@hodr1000 It tests the amount of water in the mix... this is a critical factor in mix design, determining the final compressive strength of placed concrete.
A lot of their buildings don't get much use, so they aren't enduring even the extremely limited wear and tear that would collapse them.
@karlwithak. While some things might be over-engineered, the US has never had any issues with its buildings collapsing, so long as those rules that you are criticizing are being followed. When a building does collapse in the US, it's fairly big news. In China it is just a daily occurrence now.
Here in Argentina, sea-sand is commonly used in construction of homes....one can even see small seashells within the "concrete" structure. The salt content corrodes the rebar within, & as the rebar rusts the rebar expands fracturing the structure. BTW, don't be using those high pressure sprayers as they will cut thru this material like a hot knife thru butter.
That's crazy . I'm guessing these house have to constantly be rebuilt or added on to ?
@@Unknownvillian___As in our case, our two-story Duplex while being in an upscale part of town...it was built in the eighties and since then, both the in-wall gas-lines and the water-lines have sprung leaks...upon ripping into walls, both lines were severely corroded & have been replaced. In thinner wall structures (200mm?)the corroded pipes have wrecked, split the walls requiring complete replacement of the wall itself.
@@AndieBlack13 that's shocking
In the seventies they added a chemical(salt-like) to concrete to make it set
quicker...now the first prefab floors in homes are starting to split open..(Netherlands)
@@patverum9051chloride damage, they added calcium chloride to the concrete to make it dry faster. Baaaad idea.
Someone told me: "look, the Chinese are building solar power, windmills. They care about the environment." I replied: they have their backs against the wall, they will build ALL types of power, they have no choice, a GDP that grows 8% a year demands power that also grows 8% a year." Boy was I right. A quick google showed they were building 53 (FIFTY-THREE) Nuclear Power Plants in 20 years, plus coal plants, a large Dam (Three Gorges) and shoving windmills and solar panels where they can't put anything else. Tofu dregs buildings are no surprise.
Them having that many tofu nuclear power plants is kinda scary.
i thought you typed 'solar powered windmills' and thought.. How very "Elon Musk of you" xD
Lets just hope they did not tofu dreg a nuclear power plant....
@@dag1704 Why? It cheaper. Cheaper to replace too, accident only collateral.
This has been FASCINATING!!! One of my sons is a Concrete Tester, as in he goes to construction sites to test the concrete before it is poured - as in he sometimes has to tell construction foremen that the truck that just arrived needs to be turned away. There are some companies that dread seeing him coming but he takes his job very seriously. In our area the biggest building growth are condo/apartment buildings and schools. (There was a massive influx to our area in 2020.) I am sure that there are some people with his job that are dissuaded from saying "Nope, not pouring that", but that job is just one in a line of people that triple check adhering to building codes. Our state is VERY strict on that and fines have put large construction companies out of business - here it's more profitable in the long run to stick to codes.
Same in the U.K.
Yet still non Brits in flip flops are attaching Roman columns to their semidetached two up two down.
😊❤
you should be proud of your son. he's keeping people's lives safe
i lived in Thailand for 20 years. Wow they build fast. and you see buildings that are 7 years old falling apart. interior ceilings, stairs, rails, electricy and the list goes on and on. many of the companies building in thailand,are chinese. try to complain. you wil be tied up in court forever. my wife and i bought a house that was built about 15 years before when building standards still mattered. moral of the story, maybe best not to buy
@@Threemore650 Plenty of Brits doing that too mate. I've got one down the road with a lion-topped single car gate 🤣
Today, stabilizers on cameras are so good, that even if you're witnessing an earthquake, in the video everything looks still and ppl just look like they're super drunk.
They got that chicken head stability
As a requirement in one of my college world humanities classes, we had to watch two Ai Wei Wei documentaries. They both covered the earthquake in great detail and the sense of hopelessness the locals had trying to get the government to even recognize the tragedy for what it was.
I'm so intrigued to find out what's been happening about the tofu construction issues since then.
This is why China can never be allowed to rule the world
Nothing has changed, I’m afraid. Watch The China Show.
Obviously you did not attend the college where Brandon stored in a CCP-owned building thousands of classified documents he stole from the White House and National Archives.
Its impossible to tell what's changed, from the inside or outside, which means its probably just the same or worse (b/c you can't hope to stop this kind of thing without transparency).
Their whole society is gonna deal with these kinds of problems for a long time still I imagine, even after Xitler dies.
I watch The China Show!!
I SO appreciate Serpentza and Laowhy86!
I still remember a house I visited when I was studying civil engineering design in the early 2000s. The owners were immigrants working their asses off abroad, building their dream house. The construction company used the fact that they weren’t able to oversee the construction to build the entire house of bricks. Foundations, beams, pillars who should be made of reinforced concrete were made of hollow bricks. When the owners came home, they soon discovered the house was sinking into the ground, because the company didn’t even do a geological survey and didn’t realize the building was placed half way on solid ground and the other half on soft clay, and soon after, the house literally cracked in two.
After finishing my studies, I then worked for company that consistently used sub-standard concrete. Luckily I refused to sign any technical documentation and soon left the company. All of this happened in Portugal.
I was in Beijing in 2007 visiting a friend who was an exchange student there and got to talk to some of the local students as well. They were mostly one who wanted to leave China so there may have been some bias, but one of them told me of a series of traditional chinese stories about a "mr. almost" which was a satirical take on the results of out of control confuscianism. Stories like him renting out a boat, the client getting in, setting off only realize there was no sail or oars, yelling back and asking why there were none and what he should do, and getting the answer "well, you didn't ask to rent oar or a sail and what you should do is not my problem".
Far from the only country in the world to have acted this way; we have the term Potenmkin village after all, China is singularly obsessed with the appearance of success. Cutting corners, cheating, lying and such is not really looked down on, only that deception being revealed. A very successful cheater is held in higher regard than a moderately successful honest man. Not uniquely chinese, I know, but you find it in all level of society.
Everyone I know who has seriously studied the country has told me the same thing: whenever the chinese present positive numbers, you halve them to get close to the truth. Whenever they present bad numbers, double them. This goes for everyone from a lowly construction worker to Xi Xingping himself, and all his predecessors. In a rush to appear more powerful than they are, they built the country on poor foundations and that way of doing things always comes around to bite you in the end.
As someone living in a country not that long ago occupied by russia, the last part about halfing/multiplying the numbers is very familiar. But I guess this is what communism does to a nation. The real state of things is not relevant, presentation is more important and if it somewhat resembles the reality then even better, you can get the numbers even higher. And if someone finds out, what are they gonna do? Call the police? You belong to the party, they won't do anything and if they're too ambitious a little bribe will do.
This sort of thinking was present on all levels of life. Until the communism collapsed and free market verified that imaginary products in fact cannot sustain you.
@@Lama-dr4om It goes for any dictatorship really.
@@Lama-dr4om I lived in Taiwan for four years. It has never been communist, nor was it ravaged by the Cultural Revolution under Mao.
There is a problem with traditional Chinese culture, with several factors that contribute.
One is that it is fundamental for all Chinese people to save face and avoid embarrassing others. This even applies to young children. Chinese people would rather lie than lose face or cause another to do so. There are supposed to be limits to this, but I never figured them out.
The next problem is that business rules are often imposed arbitrarily and it is routine to pay police to look the other way. Whenever an employer was proposing something dodgy and I would point out that it was illegal, they would say, "I think it will be okay." They actually mean, "I think no one will find out, and if they do, I will hand them a red envelope."
Another problem is that young Chinese people are not expected to know how to do anything but study. My students did not even know how to make tea.
It was common for women to learn to cook only after they were married, and they would generally learn from their grandmother.
The next problem is with their approach to education. The children are overworked with not much time to review the things they have learned. There is a huge emphasis on rote memorization and testing is never very challenging, because all students are expected to score over 90 percent in everything. The school where I worked expected me to call students at home and practice the exam with them word for word, two weeks before they would take it.
There was a huge earthquake in 1999, with well over 2000 people killed. Most were killed in the mountains closer to the epicentre with unavoidable mudslides crushing houses.
My county was pretty safe, but about two hundred people died when two buildings sheared off at the base and just rolled over. The word was that they were structurally unsound because the contractor who built it had the workers replace the rebar with plastic conduit filled with concrete.
Now all that being said, Taiwan has much less of this going on than the PRC, mostly because they have embraced a regulatory framework similar to the West. It just makes sense and no one is stopping them. Most of the professionals I met were educated at places like Harvard and Johns Hopkins.
Yes, I was an exchange student as well in 2003.. but I went to Japan instead. I am glad I did, I have never had an interest in China because of how backwards their way of thinking is. The complete opposite when I visited Japan and went to school there, everything is about honor and loyalty and truth, though Japan has its own set of issues, it just feels like a totally different world when the entire country is so clean and people are friendly and you don't have to worry about your things being stolen. Things are on such a good honor system they have beer and cigarettes in vending machines back then that didn't require age verification to buy. We were in HS.. we bought a lot of Beer.
China is always just that - appearance. They can't even be a police state correctly.
Got to love when RUclips demonetizes a video because you point out how horrible Chinese construction is. Surprising how much RUclips protects China even though RUclips is not even allowed in China
Advertisers do though
Clearly this person has not taken the time to watch chinese youtubers youtubing from china and these youtubers get awards for it from organizations in china.
@@Grace-ms7un the only people allowed to post on RUclips in China like that are people that are directed to by the CCP.
@Grace-ms7un who tf watches pure ccp propaganda? Those aren't normal people they're party members playing a role
@@Grace-ms7unclearly you’ve never been to China, I had to use several different VPNs to even access RUclips in China
the problem the soviets had from what i read is they built things to last, then never preformed maintenence because they assumed the sturdy construction would last 100 or more years, when in reality it only extended its shelf life by a decade or two
Chinas the exact inverse, they built things to crumble and have to do constant maintenence because they dont build it right the first time
then you got east germany, we built things so sturdily that attempting to remove them is a huge financial risk.
for example i know of a construction company that went out of business because a building that the boss estimated would take a couple weeks to demolish, ended up taking several months because they ran into what we in germany call "blue" concrete, which came into existence when sand was not delivered to a construction site on time or in insufficient quantities, thus other (or sometimes no)aggregates were used, which often results in a mix that is much harder than regular concrete, taking more time to remove and causing more wear on equipment, as well as posing a danger to workers because some of those "blue" mixtures can break into shards that have sharp edges, which fly off at high velocities.
60% of Russians still live in the apartment blocks built by the Soviets.
@@windhelmguard5295 Blue concrete also only gets stronger with time because it takes forever to cure. I've heard from a friend of mine in germany that his town tried to remove a bunch of WW2 era anti-tank traps to build new housing, the traps were so stubborn and so well built that they just blew gaps in the line for the roads, now the neighborhood just has tank traps running through it. I'll have to ask him where it is.
There are different cases for soviet construction. A lot of stuff was built ultra-sturdy, but also with very shitty planning. Some things were built well.
But something that fits the bill are so called Khrushchevkas - panel apartment buildings that were mass built to give people homes in the cities. They have a lot of issues by modern standards, but the biggest one is that they probably were bot intended to be very long term. They twist and slide and warp their geometry and if you live in one, you live in a constant state of repairing your apartment, you can never be done because it never stops falling apart.
Also, things built by soviets abroad aren't good examples. "Showing off" was always the top priority, so those projects had blank budgets and top shelf materials. Working on something like this was always a ticket for a good life, because there was a lot of cool stuff to "skim" for your personal budget
@@MUJUNKY They should use that town for WWII movie scenes, no need for props.
The most major tofu dregs are actually public infrastructures, as corruptions on government projects are rampant. Sinkholes, bridge and tunnel collapses , gaps on highways are frequently reported.
sinkholes, err i think that's a natural condition
It's honestly kinda hilarious in a really dark way. I feel bad for the people but my god the Chinese government gives off three stooges vibes. It's so comically stupid and evil that it's hard for me to even understand it to be a monumentally serious problem.
The example of living in a cardboard house
Governments are rarely smart.
Yeahhhhh. If anyone tells you that "China has a plan! They are 300 years ahead! China stronk!" remember this story, and remember that this is just the corruption and incompetence we can SEE.
They dont have a plan. They knee jerk from reaction to reaction as things happen, and no one tells Pooh Bear anything because they dont want to be exiled. They are not 300 years ahead, they are 30 years behind (at least). China is in collapse, and there is no one in charge that has any ability to stop it.
@@GwainSagaFanChannelLike you see in most American cities. They are everywhere.
@@kamsunleong6648, at least we acknowledge we have homeless.
During my osha 10 course we watch a lot horrifying videos from china to emphasize safety standards
Propaganda makes for good slaves.
Were they those gruesome animated shorts I see sometimes?
@@_Jay_Maker_ there's these weird animated shorts I've seen going around of workplace accidents that are pretty gruesome, they're apparently supposed to be based on actual accidents
My heavy machiney course I completed had us watching just endless reams of chinese lack of safety videos. We had worldwide coverage of accident videos, but the widest variety of accidents and the most total were chinese. I have to wonder how many people have to die before something changes or every city becomes a ghost city.
@@DoveAlexa unfortunately it’s not “how many will die”, it’s “when will someone important enough to the government”. Especially in China (but it’s pretty consistent amounts most countries). Rules and regulations don’t change because 1,000 people were killed by something, but because 1 person in a suit was; it’s the same reason that murderers don’t get caught in black and poor neighborhoods in the US, but as soon as they touch a hair on the head of a politicians son, mountains will be moved to get a conviction.
A million faceless “people” are nothing in most governments’ eyes, but a single one with a name is justification for all out war
A friend I have who works in civil engineering calls Chinese construction “corncobs and prayer”
No regulation on materials, so they use the cheapest stuff on the inside and then cover it up with what looks to be good materials on the outside, and then when it collapses nothing much happens because the companies that do the work are owned partially by the state, so they get minimal fines and maybe jail some people but nothing ever happens with regulations
The YT video didn't emphasize it, but all the private sector has CCP involvement or govt. support. Therefore, the Ch. govt suppresses all the collapse and disasters. Suppresses the magnitude of the economic impact to common people. You can't turn to the courts, nor the govt for amelioration.
They go hard on Chinese that cut corners IF it affects Chinese people. The stuff that gets exported is like you say minimal penalty.
He should see usa construction
Is prayers and wishful thinking
@@Redmenace96source ,m proof ?
When visiting Beijing and Shanghai in 2010 my impression of everything was that it was built for surface, not for durability.
It's crazy how in many of these videos you can literally see the sand flying out of the buildings as they collapse and creating clouds before anything even hits the ground.
They can be in the Guinness book of world records for the biggest sandcastles ever built
An update on Evergrande, it has been forced to liquidate all of its assets. Another thing you didn't mention concerning Evergrande concerns their Wealth Products; employees were told to invest a certain amount of money in Evergrande Wealth products, and that if they failed to do so, their performance pay and bonuses were docked. So the collapse of Evergrande is going to impact the employees just as badly as other investors, as the employees were forced to invest.
Sounds like somewhat of a Ponzi scheme...
I did work as a network guy at a uS university in China. New construction. The roofs leaked in the biggest buildings. We requested LC fiber termination and got ST. There was water in pkaces that’s were supposed to be dry on the grounds. It was clear corners were being cut.
Wonder if it's negligence or because of it being an American building
@@Neer-yy5nm America is many things, but building codes definitely not going to be one of those problems. Mainly because the government can tax people in the area even more. That is literally the main reason. A side PR reason is safety, but that is less on the scale except for those that are honest about safety inspection.
i worked at a high school in Deyang next to an elementary school. the children would greet me on the school bus in the morning. I still cry
My wife and I stayed in one of eight new apartment blocks, eight floors with eight apartments each floor. We were guests of the Taiwanese construction company contracted to build and maintain them and so many others in Zhengzhou. Only two apartments were occupied , ours and the shared apartment of the President and VP of the company. The people in the old part of the city refused to move as there was no compelling reason to move where nobody lived and so far away from services (the train station remained in the old town centre).
Chicken and egg.. if you build it they will come.
If they were smart they would give 1/4 the apartments for free to hot girls for 5 years
Interesting, but Taiwan isn’t Chinese.
@@mambisa2690 Zhengzhou is in China though. I imagine they just wanted to illustrate the point that nobody wanted to move there.
Though you're right, makes no sense that a taiwanese firm would be contracted to build - not even because it's Taiwan in particular
i think you might mean taiwanese company designed,not built.
@@mambisa2690 except it is
A personal anecdote but one that corroborates this is that I bought a knock-off gaming chair from a Chinese seller on Amazon. Within a year, just from sitting in it, the back support ripped off. I've never seen a piece of steel over an inch thick tear apart before. Bend for sure. But a piece of steel ripping in half like that is mind boggling. And if that is any indication for the quality of the steel in use in China, I'd be terrified.
Have you heard about the cheap chairs that have been exploding? People just take a seat and its like a bomb went off. Literally, even the room theyre in looks torn up. Some have gotten a rod blasted....inside...delicate places. 😬
@@lynnkayee1015 sounds like the pneumatic cylinder for height adjustment is very sensitive... that's horrifying to think about.
If you get used to working with steel imported from China and then go to work on steel from Korea or Australia you will find that things take longer as the other steels are tougher than the Chinese stuff. 😅
You get what you pay for! 😅😅
@@l0rf yeah people have been killed in China having the pneumatic rod propelled up their rears... apparently Western chairs all have a protective metal plate stopping this from happening but the Chinese thought it would be good to save a dollar per chair and got rid of it...
@@mikesully110 I'd like to actually see any evidence of this happening.
My uncle works in the Danish windmill industry, China would order Danish windmills, and after some time they would call and ask for help to assemble them again, after they took them apart.
China likes to look good, and as being so superior in building things. They are not.
Thank you for the video Sakuyi!
I hope you charged them
They didn't want your windmills..... They bought to copy them...
@@pholdway5801 There's something ironic about somebody copying the design of something when they aren't even able to assemble the original.
@@ugh.idontwanna They took it apart but forgot how to re assemble it and needed help. The original was just too intricate possibly,.the purchase of a small number for copying only is not an unknown practice
@@pholdway5801 well, if you don’t have the innovation gene, copycat is the best you can manage.
But to do it extra shoddily is A shame.
Frankly - if I was constructing something important I’d want the ethnically Dutch, Germans or British engineers please.
It's funny. I came here from watching videos on Kowloon. Anarchic city run by gangs and people just doing things on their own prerogative manages to stay standing long enough to be torn down on purpose, but these mega construction projects can't stay up even 40 years. It's wild.I don't know how much longer Kowloon could've remained on its own if it hadn't been torn down, but the fact it had a longer shelf-life is just mind-boggling.
At the outset of the Covid pandemic in China in January 2020, the Chinese government made a big show of rapidly constructing [a schedule of 10 days] a large building (645,000 square feet) that they termed a 1000 bed hospital with intensive care units and sections for diagnosis and infection control to treat the sickened in the Wuhan area. In meetings at the construction management oversight firm at which I worked, with a great amount of experience in mega projects, including hospitals, our engineers expressed doubt on the project's quality and really being a true hospital since hospitals are some of most complex of projects and lengthy to build given their stringent requirements and how initial building designs can become obsolete during construction that require change orders because of the quickly evolving medical technologies that go into them. Our most senior engineer, with about 45 years experience pointed out, shortly after the hospital was operational that it was likely that the building was already torqueing under the load since the concrete would not have had time to sufficiently cure given how they had rushed the schedule. There's an old saying that if you want it so badly as to rush the schedule, then bad's the way you are going to get it.
Context and facts dont seem to matter.
It was a 57 story building that was constructed in "19" days. A skyscraper can have as few as 4 floors.
"Broad Sustainable Building spent four and a half months fabricating the building’s 2,736 modules before construction began. The first 20 floors were completed last year, and the remaining 37 were built from 31 January to 17 February this year, Xiao said."
For comparison, "Bamboo and prefab is a match made in heaven. Just ask Bamboo Living Homes, a company that prefabricates gorgeous bamboo homes and ships the disassembled products to anywhere in the world for reassembly on-site. One of their fastest bamboo building crews put together two houses in only two days in Hawaii."
In other words the amount of time it takes to build something depends on how you define build. If its anything that happens at the place the building is going to be located then you can build a large house in 3 days if you have most of it put together off side (even if thats 5 ft away). If build includes assembling things offsite then it took 5+ months to build a 57 story building.
None of that time includes time needed to get permission, etc.
And "Intended to be the world's first 100+ story building, construction of the Empire State Building began on March 17, 1930. Construction was completed in a record-breaking 1 year and 45 days."
The empire state building is 102 stories tall. 1 yr 45 days is the same as 410 days. They built the empire state building doing about 1 floor every 4 days. The "19 days" building was 57 floors and built in 4+ months (4 months + 19 days = 139 days). That means they built 1 floor every 2.5 days. Thats not that much faster than the empire state building. Context.
Someone on quora mentioned "Even then, the listed time wasn’t for the completion of the building, just for the assembly. It also didn’t include a nearly year-long gap between the beginning of the assembly and the end of the assembly. There was still electrical, plumbing, insulation, sheetrock, flooring, etc to be done following the assembly before the building was actually complete."
Another "We once “built” a 3 storey school in a day.
(It was prefab units, sat on pads and “bolted together”)
But, it took a month to prepare the site/drainage/services etc and several weeks after to finish the work, but if we wanted, we could claim we built a 3 storey school in a day, some idiots would accept that claim."
@@namename9998 The empire state is a steel frame building.
You can quickly assemble those much more effectively than a concrete structure.
Concrete is the most dangerous form of multi-story construction to build in a hurry, I would imagine
@@matthewmosier8439 I wasnt arguing about steel vs concrete though. I was arguing about how Stakuyi assumed that the building that was built in "57 days" (it was 57 floors. How many days it was built in depends on how you define build but 57 days is less than 4 months so he was wrong about 57 days) was unsafe just because it was built quickly.
As for concrete in a hurry thats more because it takes time for it to cure. It probably takes the same amount of time for a bad concrete mix to cure as a good mix. Bad mixes are probably cheaper. And like with the 57 days building how are you defining hurry because theres such a thing as precast concrete. If you used precast concrete you could probably assemble everything quickly even though it took more time than people assume.
I think bad buildings is a cultural (not just Chinese, but cheap vs proud) thing. In many countries buildings need to be inspected while construction is going on. A good inspector wont let bad buildings be made, bad inspectors will sweep problems under the rug. Another problem is education but being China I would expect their construction companies to understand construction compared to people in developing countries where people couldnt get degrees in engineering. If these buildings were made 100 yrs ago then I would expect people to be more sympathetic to stuff like the roof collapsing because of perlite (absorbed water) because people couldnt have know what would happen if it never happened before. There isnt an excuse anymore for cheap materials in multistory buildings (people have been using cheap materials for thousands of years).
There’s a saying: “Fast, good, cheap-pick two.”
Great story makes me think.
Actual common Chinese proverb is and i quote, "If you can cheat then cheat" end quote. Let that sink in!!!
This is something that no one is mentioning:
Whenever a person in the States buys something that has a "Made in China" label on it there is a safe assumption that, if it DOES work, it won't work for long.
That country went through and built massive amounts of roads and buildings over the last 20 years with virtually -0- inspections, ignored codes & lots of bribes.
Why then would that assumption not apply to all of this development ?? Tofu Dregs is a sign that they do not understand how to mix concrete and all of their
roads & buildings are made with a significant amount of this concrete.
There will be many, many deaths & injuries as these projects start collapsing.
They know how to mix concrete lmfao. You took away that they just couldn’t figure out how to mix concrete?
No, they purposefully used poorly mixed concrete to save money. And this applies to a lot of private development projects and smaller local infrastructure projects. Major state and central gov projects don’t suffer from it at nearly the same scale.
Three Gorges Dam 😬😬😬
I think the thing that still gives me some trust, if disgust also, is that there is typically an American or European QC who actually does care that the materials and products produced work for a servicably long period of time, or will supplement a shoddy workforce with machines. My comuters, monitors, and phone have lasted for a long time. I use a kinda year-0 timescale though, so discount as you will. I should discount it too, I suppose.
@@Tounguepunchfartbox It's not just China. I live in the third world. This is common. Getting a proper concrete mix is hardly rocket science. Some people act as if it's a western secret. When my parents bought their house 40 years ago, they extended the kitchen before moving in. Most people did this. Now, the floor and walls are cracked. The parts of the original house though is fine.
Chinese management absolutely knows the specifics of their jobs like the formula for concrete or how to make knockoff Nerf darts or how to make baby formula. The problem is that management doesn't care about quality production. Rather than accept a few production delays, they will substitute inferior/incorrect materials, even when the outcome will be catastrophic to their reputation. To this day, Chinese don't buy Chinese dairy products for that reason.
I forgot their names but there were 2 expat RUclipsrs who lived in China for years and married Chinese and had to run due to the gov because they were calling out all of this stuff many years ago. They would tour the ghost cities and show them falling apart before they were even inhabited.
Serpentza and laowry. May be spelled a little off
laowhy86.@@waltermh111
They are idiots. To be honest so is the guy running this channel.
of course they would fall apart if not in use, any building would in any country. The cities are the governments fault, it's the companies trying to go too big
watched them for years till they got all political @@waltermh111
throwing up a high rise that fast is fucking insane. 1 month per level is about as fast as you can safely go. Maybe a little quicker but the concrete needs 28days to cure before you can make it bare the wait of another pour.
Pre-poured and manufactured concrete sections can be used to build mid-rise buildings very quickly. Looking at 6-7 months for a 13 story building. You are limited to a certain height and footprint.
14:09 blue car is literally a hero for stopping traffic while the building was breaking apart
um... no they saw the building start collapsing, and just stopped because it was the obvious thing to do
So obvious that the cars in opposite lane thought it was a good idea to still go.
@@Mgl1206
yeah...some of it was self preservation though I reckon he had just enough time to punch acceleration ...so ended up being noble
Had to scroll past around 140 posts to find you, the person mentioning that part.
Both beach sand and river sand are unacceptable for construction because the grains are spherical - low surface area. Manufactured sand (crushed rock) has angular jagged grains - high surface area for adhering to the cement.
Indeed, nobody in the west would use such cement. It would fail on the first control laboratory examination. And we have such control measurements after every layer we build on major infrastructure projects. I wonder how many control samples were taken on the 57 day skyscraper construction...
Apparently the standards in China are very different however. For them, it would be nice just to use materials that won't actively corrode themselves.
@@MegaBlueShit They absolutely do, for the same reason they use river gravel which is also oval - it's not damaging to the concrete pumps unlike crushed gravel and crushed sand which are ideal for purpose but really tough on the pumping equipment.
I used to work in Leighton Buzzard. Not far from the town was a sandpit, with glacial "sharp" sand. They exported thousands of tons of this to Saudi Arabia for concrete to build an airport runway.
Sharp Sand is simply a washed course grade of natural sand that is more angular, not angular. As can be easily seen under a microscope compared to Manufactured Sand. It is not acceptable for concrete. Salespersons and inspectors stating that it can be used used for concrete are guilty of fraud and manslaughter.
The world is running out of sharp sand, or at least easily mined sharp sand. Concrete will become more expensive and the incentive to use lower quality desert/river/beach sand will increase.
I spend one summer working for a refrigeration company, now this company uses parts and materials that are from Korea, Japan, and the US which are 2x more expensive than stuff that they can buy from China, I soon learn that the reason they did this is because refrigeration units that are built using Chinese materials will require constant maintanance and will inevitably break down due to the quality of the materials
Price so nice that you'll have to buy it twice
I work for a top 8 grocery chain in the united states and can assure you that the equipment made here in the USA fails all the time. We are seeing compressors fail left and right, fittings go bad, constant leaks and other quality control related issues. We do not source from China, and we use union labor with quarterly equipment PM's. ALL equipment is engineered with limited duration of run time built in until it breaks and you need to buy new, not just Chinese. While Chinese culture clearer dictates shortcuts, don't fall for the nonsense that because its MADE IN THE USA that it is of quality.
@@cowmath77 I just find it really weeds out the genuine people from the racists who realise that 'planned obsolescence' is the cause of crappy products
@@hughmungus2760 race isnt involved in the judging of cheap chinese crap products, the quality of the crappy products that have consistently come out of china is the reason people talk bad about chinese products and their lifespans
@@justanotherguy6359 you know the only reason why china produces bad products is because of market demand right? If people didn't keep buying it. they wouldn't make it.
The fact that this video is 43 minutes long and more then 75% of the screen time was buildings falling apart... thats incredible
5:03 that growth was actually a negative years ago. The Chinese government was giving false counts. More recent data suggests that they haven’t been growing in population and India actually passed them as the most populous nation years ago.
I lived in a community in Beijing for over 20 years that was well built and attractively designed. The apartment I bought was mostly problem free and well maintained by the management company. I sold the apartment at a profit when I left China.
@@peterreston6478 in Beijing. The capital city. Not some distant ghost town in a poor province. Right under the scrutiny of the CCP and all the foreign powers. Even North Korea looks pretty in its capital.
@peterreston6478 sure you did
@@peterreston6478Yeaaaah... In capital. Even in Russia, capital city is pretty. But go to, for example, Chelyabinsk, Perm or Kazan and you will see how shitty their cities are.
@@peterreston6478Ah I'm sure your personal anecdote overrides all other evidence. This guy says it's fine! What more do we need.
Chinese guy: Hey my child died in a sketchy school building collapse.
Chinese gov: here's 5k
Chinese guy: yea but could you do something about the issue?
Chinese gov: sounds like someone needs to go to a camp.... to concentrate.
So true.
In China you either shut up or someone will shut your mouth for you!
accurate
@@Jonathan-jp4zz I mean, if we're talking about who knows the most, I think the Jews would probably have something to say on the matter
@@RenoReborn Johnny's attempt at whataboutism was fun to watch, tho.
@@RenoReborn nice whataboutism
a quick correction on Evergrand the company is Chinas second largest property developer the largest is Country Garden who is now experiencing financial problems.
Evergrand sounds like Buy N Large Superstore from Wall-E.
it's easy to build big and fast when you're doing it with cardboard and sand.
Perhaps not very tall
Perhaps not for long
You forgot cardboard!
I would like to teach you a little Chinese. 差不多 (Cha Bu Duo) means "close enough". In interpersonal matters, that's a good thing. You did what you needed to, now don't worry about it. In big scale projects like in buildings and logistics, it's a bad thing, saying that you half-assed something. The CCP is unfortunately appropriating the former towards the latter, and this screws over everyone.
Much ado has been made of '差不多' ever since a couple of youtubers sensationalized it, but this is just the Pareto principle that is common practice around the world. Granted, certain regulations are non-negotiable and modern China has had a history of lax regulatory standards, especially in the 90s and early 2000s, but there is an ongoing trend of much higher regulatory enforcement in China.
That is synonymous with "mediocre" quality.
@@unifieddynastyTheir problem isn't regulatory. Regs can immobilize an economy. It is the "good enough" idea when applied to safety on a grand scale.
@@matthewmosier8439 Is there a point to debating the semantics of 'safety' versus the enforcement of safety regulations? Like I said, China has had a history of lax enforcement of 'safety' standards, especially in the 90s and early 2000s, but there is an ongoing trend of much higher 'safety' enforcement in China.
"there is an ongoing trend of much higher regulatory enforcement in China's wealthiest cities and financial centers" *
There, I fixed it.
It's still the early 2000's everywhere else.@@unifieddynasty
When there are no incentives to 'do things the right way', then the right things simply don't get done.
Can’t believe I just found your channel! Found all this fascinating! I had heard of issues in China’s real estate industry but to hear all of this is surprising. I feel terrible for all the families over there just trying to buy a home or live in properties that can and do fall apart all the time. Gives me a whole new appreciation for the construction and code safeties we have here in the US. Sure it’s not perfect…but it’s a heck of a lot better than over there.
Looking forward to checking out the rest of your channel!
I work in industry in the States. I occasionally have to deal with Chinese manufacturing. We have the term "chinesium" for extremely poor quality metals or other materials come out of China
They can make some decently high quality stuff. When you're willing to pay for it and have the shop do the proper quality control.
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg aka you get what you pay for. It's always true.
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg
Or you might pay top dollar and still get ripped off 😂
@@chrism3790 Its all about having the proper quality control. If you want to be certain of the quality, you would outsource that task to a 3rd party contractor.
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimgBut at that point, it's probably better to just try and seek a more reliable supplier.
*Sand*
Sea sand is round like a ball bearing and you can't stack ball bearings on a hard surface !
River sand has not been rolled and tumbled in the surf for millions of years and is still rough and anglular, it
will lock together and stack-up, plus it has no salt crystals in it to shatter from very little pressure being applied to it.
So what's gonna happen with that tallest building in Shenzhen if it was built, at least in part, using sea sand?
@@samdog_1 ???? Who knows ? It's not as strong as it could be !
@@samdog_1we'll know in near future.
Interesting extra bit of info: There has been a significant political source of aggrivation coming from china stemming from them building all those artifical islands for military bases in ocean waters they claim. It was seen as an agressive act and all those things.
Recently read that the majority of those islands are falling apart and sinking back into the sea/ocean/w/e because of the utterly crap concrete they used in their construction.
the islands were a temporary measure until china builds up its bluewater fleet. Once china has a couple of aircraft carriers, some runways on sandbars wouldn't be nessesary.
shouldve hired the dutch
@@hughmungus2760 the islands would still be necessary to claim territory in oceans. see: portugal.
@@hughmungus2760 Not overly worried about that....ruclips.net/video/eSs_KFhEv4M/видео.html
Don't believe everything you read kid.
I think it’s pretty common knowledge that most stuff from china you buy is cheap junk. Which sucks cause like on Amazon now, all you can buy in a lot of cases is random name junk from china. Things like phone chargers or cables….break super quick. People always looking for the cheapest option possible have made this so prevalent.
I owned a manufacturing company. Most equipment is made in China of stainless steel. I had to throw a magnet on literally everything that came in to make sure it was stainless because they lie their asses off about what's in their steel products. This is a huge problem, since so much of the wesrern industry's equipment is made there now. I think the food supply is at risk from it, quite honestly. I mean, I can't see how it isnt. I have heard so many stories about rust on stainless food production equipment.
Some years back they found melamine in baby formula from China. Melamine is what they make unbreakable dishes from. They used melamine because it tricked the diagnostic equipment that is used to test baby formula's protein content. There also was a lot of poisonous pet food imported from China that was killing people's dogs. They also found lead-based paint on children's toys imported from China. The list goes on and on. I would suggest reading labels and not buying anything from China, especially food.
Have you seen videos on chinas counterfeit foods? They have fakes for everything. I’m talk eggs, beef, lamb, noodles, tea leaves and tofu. This is a country that killed thousands of their babies with fake formula. How do you trust buying anything from people that would kill babies for profit?
My dad had a small machine shop. He was a Tool & Die Engineer. Back then it was Japanese steel he worried about. Japanese products were cheaper and not usually well made. We joked about their cars having lawn mower engines. But they improved quickly. Not so with Chinese brand products. Lots of people have been falling for the cheap prices of a Chinese online company. I assumed many would be near worthless and also highly toxic. Because they are a Chinese company you can not even sue them. That is another problem. Well, they are finding toxic crap in even children’s stuff. Again.
@@conniead5206 indeed. And the Chinese couldn't care less.
@@bluestudio67 Of course they don't care. What baffles me is knowing the US doesn't care, either. They just keep buying Chinese garbage.
Super frustrating. I was in the Navy from 2003 to 2010. I remember how much fake construction was going on even then. Especially towards 2007, a lot of shady stuff was underway.
Any exmamples that you would share?
@@gow1044Epstein islands, the shady Chinese were building those apparently
@@kaboonali5466Epstein’s Island is in the USVI and is a natural island. It was not made by the Chinese.
They are building islands in the South China Sea.
No that's a cool story bro But if I was you I would go to Costco and get those sandwich things from party planners.@@duaneaikins4621
We have chinese companies here in Australia doing the same thing not following building code etc. There was a big story about it recently in Sydney. A complex of 900 appartments basically ready to collapse at any time.
Its the big one on epping road near delhi road.
Building code is where the problem begins when it comes to issues with apartments and highrise in Australia. While a developer needs to be certified to build residential buildings, they don't need to be when building multi level buildings 🤔 so the developers bring in builders that can get it done fast and cheap so they can sell for a multi million paycheck. All perfectly legal. It's a more common problem than you know. A couple places reported on the news are Opal towers in Homebush bay and also an apartment block that was evacuated and condemned in mosman just can't remember where exactly. I'm a tradesman myself and I've seen some shody work over the years, but I wouldn't be able to say that any nationality is worse than the rest, there is a rotten egg in every bunch.
@giancarloviglianti3457 ... Hence, BUILDING CODES!!
@@giancarloviglianti3457 Builders really need to be regulated better because there is so much you can hide behind plaster and paint that can't be checked by the buyer and there should be regular checks carried out that hold both the builder and the assessor liable for any shoddy workmanship that is later discovered. For every very new build and extension there should be an obligation on the builder to have an insurance policy in place that covers the repairs for a period of at least 10 years due to defective workmanship. This would weed out cowboy builders and although it would add to the cost of a new build it would protect the buyer. Cowboy builders exist everywhere and Ireland has it's fair share also, over here up to the Financial crash in '08 builders here could self certify which was a disaster but the party in gov at the time were very close to the developers and they were very fond of their political donations.
Why is a Chinese company even allowed to build anything in Australia? Why didn't the inspectors catch them in the act?
I'm only halfway through this video but I had to pause and say that you did an outstanding job on it. Like, actually brilliant journalism and planning to be so concise for such a long period of time. Your ability to step through each topic or concept while relating them together seamlessly is a talent that not many people have. When I first saw the 42:00 duration I thought there's no way I'd be watching the whole thing but you've managed to capture my attention and curiosity.
as someone with a few skyscraper constructions under my belt (just a labourer but still had to understand everything) nobody was wondering how they were building quickly, we all knew it was gonna start crashing down
Seems pretty exciting to work on big buildings. Where do laborers stay during constructions outside of where they live?
Hell I've only worked at highest a three story building and that still takes a good while if you want it done right. Demanding everything be done quickly and parts made fast means its going to be trash on top of a massive incentive for corruption that causes.
"Just a labourer"
My man, I would invite you a few drinks if I could. Massive respect.
@@SL420- depends, one company paid for a hotel room, another i was working with a friend so i just crashed with him. the hotel room was actually super convenient cause it was downtown and literally 2 blocks from the job site, like 10 min walk at most
To be honest the fact that the real estate industry in China is moving towards housing for living rather than speculation is absolutely a good thing (for the chinese people) even if in the short term it would lead to massive shrinkage in the market and having to demolish these ghost cities and will probably lead to higher quality housing meant for living and not just as an asset, the idea that chinese construction has getting worse over the years is copium. The downside is that so as long as other countries continue to use housing as an asset and fail to control foreign real estate investment, rich chinese money is going to flow into foreign markets and continue to make housing expensive in other countries, exactly what Australia and Canada has been experiencing.
I was working for air compressor company many years ago, and I was sent to Hong Kong to inspect our new electric motor division there. I was told by some engineers under no circumstances, should I stay in any skyscraper, or even a building over three stories high. Now I understand why.😂
Didn't know it was a problem in Hong Kong too
That is a big lied, Hong Kong never have that problem not even close, please don’t spread untruth things about Hong Kong .😡😡
@yinlanyeates2190 Ever since the handover and the CCP breaking the agreement, what makes you think Hong Kong is immune to this? It's not special anymore, just another city ruined by the Mainland
The real estate issue here in China is complex. In reality here, a 'private' firm (which is usually tied to the government), buys the land from the government with a lease term of 50-80 years. The government always holds the land, but you are allowed to have an apartment on it for at least the term of the 'lease'. Previously, once a construction company started working, they would get a loan against the pre-built apartments from the bank, and then continue to finance through the sale of these pre-built apartments. For small cities, this created an incentive for companies to pre-sell a whole community, and run off with the money leaving all investors with an empty field. Sometimes they would build one building, sometimes they would almost get completed, and then the company would fold, and you would be SOL. If you did get lucky enough that they built your community, you understood that the materials they used were almost always of the cheapest quality to maintain low costs until they recouped the loans. If your construction company goes out of business before they pay the bank off, you can't get the property certificate. Even if you can live in the apartment, and have paid your loan to the bank or to the developer, you can not get the property certificate if the developer themselves hasn't paid off their portion of the loan holding your apartment as collateral. If that happens, no one will help you, and you will have lost your savings, lost your security, and are back at 0.
(slaps building ) this bad boy right here (heavy shaking starts)
I remember watching ADV China on their motorbike tour of China driving through newly built ghost cities, it was absolutely insane the scope of construction going on.
Adv china . 2 white guys being jealous of china
@@jacksmith-mu3eewhen they were filming their adventures in China they were happy to learn the different cultures and loved the friendliness of rural Chinese people. it wasn't jealousy that forced them to leave. China has a lot of potential and I'm sure they will happily tour again when your regime is ousted.
@@Peter_Potato
1. I am an american
2. Chinese ccp is their govt and they choice.
3. U are talking like a cia bot .
@@Peter_Potato u do know that calling for tegine change in other nations is terrorism right ..
@@jacksmith-mu3ee weak bait...but to entertain the idea, why the fuck would anyone be jealous of that shit hole? 😂
Cure time.. 28 days for a 4 inch thick slab. Tower built in 50 some odd days is just.... sigh
It is amazing if that concreate even cured properly as adding stuff to concreate mixture may prevent it from cureing( good example is sugar, as adding sugar will ruing entire batch, which historically was used by saboteurs). Like Salt? NaCl? AND Chloride ions on itself? With acidic nature of concrette itself? It creates a chemical buffor which may go on preventing normal chemical reactions in the mixture.
Exactllyyyy, even here in America I see freshly poured slabs start getting framed within a week and when I’d demo flooring like travertine wood tile etc, the newer homes foundation slabs would get ate up by our grinders so much we had to be extra careful vs a home built in the 40s it was solid and our grinders wouldn’t make a dent in the concrete, so if it’s like that here in PHX AZ I can only imagine how bad the buildings are in China and that’s scary
The engineering marvel that went into the Hoover damn considered the same curing times for concrete. They had to design it differently so it would cure properly and in a reasonable amount of time.
An apartment building collapses in the US and it’s nationwide news for a month. An apartment building collapses in China and it’s Tuesday 🙁
@@karlwithak.100% communist propaganda. But poor quality propaganda .
@@karlwithak. China's GDP per capita is a mere fraction of the the US. I don't know where you're getting your info from, but it's clearly wrong (by an order of magnitude).
@@karlwithak. ‘I told you facts’
The delusion is strong.
@@karlwithak. So that's why the death count for China's population is increasing dramatically per year with some deaths unknown since the government there hides anything and everything. Sounds like a REALLY healthy and wealthy lifestyle.
@@karlwithak. Provide sources.
Very high quality report, focusing on actual events, from someone who obviously cares for the normal people caught up in this situation.
For the concrete factor, river sand also is more coarse than beach sand which is more round (think of putting a rock into a rock tumbler). The sand helps to hold the cement portion together for the concrete, so having smoother sand is a problem over the other chemicals that also may contribute to it.
To my knowledge, concrete aggregate and sand in the US are often ground up mechanically from suitable rock. Digging up river banks is very destructive, and finding good deposits which are not in river banks is difficult.
This reminds me of the tainted sheet rock from China that was sold in the US around 2008-2010. A coworker's brother built a new home around that time that contained the tainted sheet rock and he ended up getting very very sick from the fumes coming from the sheet rock.
There's 100s of millions if not billions of square feet of toxic flooring laid all through the country too. Thanks china!!
How is that even possible. Isn't sheet rock meant to be like a solid sheet of rock that has been sliced off of a base. I don't understand how sheet rock is made but also I don't understand how could possibly be made badly. Let alone in a way that would release fumes. Please I beg of you explain this to me I need to know
@@lornbaker1083 those fumes smell absolutely horrible too.
@@lornbaker1083 Sheet rock is better described as gypsum board. It consists of a gypsum slurry between 2 sheets of heavy paper, then baked in a kiln.. The gypsum slurry in the Chinese sheet rock was full of all kinds of toxic contaminants that off gassed into the interior of the homes where it was used. The gases are highly corrosive to metals and poisonous to humans and pets. Check out "Chinese drywall" on Wikipedia for a full rundown of the stuff. There's no way that the Chinese manufacturers didn't know that the crap they were selling wasn't actually toxic waste.
My husband use to work for an architecture firm and 20+ years ago they knew China was robbing peter to pay Paul for their construction projects. The firms were just happy to take the money.
Reminds me of mainland Chinese infrastructure projects in the Global South I am concerned how long they will last Italy dodged a bullet by leaving belt and road initiative
that happened everywhere, military, trains, planes, infrastructure, and even in the food sector, fake food or using sewer oil is normal! 80% of groundwater it poisoned!
@@GwainSagaFanChannel Italy has functional aqueducts that are twenty centuries old. Doesn't sound like the sort of country that would make for a good BTI fit.
I grew up with a kid who is now an architect that got caught in the same scheme around 2005.
But they are nese that was what willing did to Ughur Tbet Twan
Saying it Their its Their from long long time ago Its Theirs, Want to Help?
In Germany, (east Germany, at least ) we call concrete damaged by salty sand / gravel Betonkrebs, in the GDR it was mostly common in railroad ties which were manufactured with Baltic-sea sand & gravel
My meemaw lives in rural bf nowhere China in a village. I remember after the earthquake I had a rare chance to call her (since communication between china and the US is weird when it comes to villages) cause I was really worried. She's HELLA old. Like, she makes titanic look spry. But I could hear her tapping the walls of her home on the phone with her cane and she was so proud of it. Loosely translated: "We build with our hands and for our hearts out here. It takes 20 years to make home but it will take more than nature or time to knock it down."
Most of the homes in the villages had minor damage. I think it was the farms that sustained the worst from what I remember. Been a while. A few barns. The government properties were messy though. Homes that had been there for fifty years though? Roof tiles and windows at the worst lol. She said it was fixed within a week.
Most of the village has left for greener pastures of the city; or at least they had by that point. Recently kids that had left have started moving back after getting educated. Most would rather do physical labor and require questionable self-sufficience than be restricted and scared. Crazy how that works.
All of this suppression, covering up, and rework following construction disasters has got to be so much more expensive than just doing it right the first time. I just can't understand chasing short-term profits so aggressively that this sort of thing keeps happening.
It starts to make more sense when you understand how decisions get made at the top. It's just some people in an office looking at data and they often makes decisions completely divorced from any notion of practicality. They don't know (or care) how things actually get done.
Because the people who made those decisions took the money and ran, leaving everyone else to fit the bill
@@trustmeits610pm2 Seeing the kinds of ignorant decision making happening at the top of my
well you on the top.. geeting golden handshakes and such. only thing you need to worrie about is making the companie look good all way up too the end were it all collaps.. you are now rich and can walk away from it laffing you ass off.. will you geet hired as top dog in a bank or so.. or simply live off you money too you die of old age on you private island.. see they dont care about workers on ground lossing ther home. becus they got money too move away from the peasants
Because often the fallout doesn't occur until after the men who made the profit have left and they might not be held accountable tho often when things go very very wrong they do punish the cheaters who get caught
"China will grow larger."
-ancient RTS saying
"It will look real nice when its done!" :)
The only difference is those buildings ACTUALLY accomplished something. Battlemaster rush ftw
They'll make a killing making zombie and Godzilla movies ...
ahhh... C&C Generals... great game
They are just building the biggest movie set for post apocalyptic movies.
I'm from Brazil and when you mentioned about sea sand being used on the construction this made me remind of the Palace 2 building collapse that happened on Rio De Janeiro in 1998. This was a condo building that was built with poor quality materials including sea sand and it was up to this day one of the most tragic collapses in my country.
13:30 (hearing about steel being stretched until it goes from a diameter of 10 mm to 8.5 mm)
Normal person: “I mean yeah it’s weaker but it can’t be THAT bad”
An engineer who understands stress-strain: “you fucking WHAT”
I remember being in a modern high rise office building in Dongguan, China and noticed there was no fire escapes or exits 😱
There were videos of people filming inside their apartment where the apartment wasn't level. balls rolling to one side of the room, the doors and cabinets swinging open and things like that. Imagine that living in a real life tower of pisa. Just horrifying.
Here in the Netherlands we build our houses very solid, on support beams and with reinforced concrete.
Still, you can do the same things here with balls rolling and closets swinging open. Even reinforced concrete can bend over time and furniture presses down into the floor insulation. We fix that by putting wood or plastics chips under furniture to level it.
Try it in your own house. Unless it was built less than a few years ago, the balls will roll.
This is no indication of bad build quality.
@@TheSuperappelflap What no, unless you live over a sinkhole or on the grachten van Amsterdam every house I've been in in the Netherlands is solid and flat. No tower of pisa constructions as far as I've ever seen. Even the houses in Groningen with the cracks won't lean as far to one side as those pisa appartments in China.
Like you do realise that sometimes those buildings in China literally collapse right? That does not happen here, it's not comparable what are you even thinking what? You live in the Netherlands, our building codes are not ever going to allow such shoddy work. I miss the Netherlands
@@basbekjenl Yeah, no, most houses arent level. Try the experiment with the ball in the Netherlands. Most houses it will either roll to one side or to the center of the room.
We build concrete houses in a swamp. Even with proper foundations, that just makes sure they dont sink into the swamp completely, it doesnt mean they stay perfectly level over decades.
If you go into a 300 year old house in Amsterdam the tilt is noticeable with the naked eye.
This doesnt mean those houses arent safe to live in. I just meant to say, a house not being perfectly level isnt necessarily proof of bad construction. Bad construction is bad construction.
@@TheSuperappelflap you just said 300 year old. were talking about houses pushing 5 years here.
I once visited an Ai Weiwei exhibition, they had piles of salvaged sub-diameter rebar from buildings after the Sichuan earthquake, along with interviews with affected families. One of the most heartbreaking experiences of my life.
And even with countless examples of why it doesn't work, people will call themselves Communists and vehemently defend it.
In Mumbai, when they made the first metro line in 2013, the government had contracted a Chinese company for the locomotive units. First week on launch, the roof of one train started leaking heavily under the brutal monsoons of Mumbai. Chinesium at its finest. Since then, local companies have stepped up and the government almost never contracts Chinese companies for metro rails.
china i s way more advanced then mumbai buddy.
@@letsinvestigateit apparently not.
@@letsinvestigateit not relevant here “buddy”
Probably the indian labor didn’t know how to weld, or read. Let’s be honest here, China made is a lot better than indian made.
India best achievements so far
India's Hunger index
2013: 63rd rank
2022: 107th rank
India's Happiness index.
2013: 111th rank
2022: 136th rank
India's press freedom rank
2013:79th
2022: 150the the fourth pillar of worlds largest
democracy is no more
India's unemployment rate
2013:4.9%
2023:7.5%
Unemployment rate never increase in growing
economy.. india is growing only on paper and by
loan
India's Debt
before 2014: ₹55 lakh crore
2023: ₹155 lakh crore
India's GDP from 2004 to 2014:
$709 billion to 2.04 trilion (almost triple)
India's GDP from 2014to 2024:
$2.04 trillion to 3.6 trilion (expected)...not even
double
I work in construction and I used to be one of those complainers about building codes, I just wanted to get on to the next project. Now I appreciate the redundancy that goes into projects especially where large crowds will be using the facilities. That being said there are abuses where there is no obvious need for a building permit at that point it becomes easy revenue for cites and municipalities.
I was a tour guide on one of the Yangtze River cruises in China when the 3 Gorges Dam was under construction. It was huge! Massive, Enormous, Gigantic don't even begin to describe the scale of that thing. We sailed past it twice every 10 days, once on the upstream voyage, then again on the downstream. What was most amazing was sailing over a hundred miles upstream and realizing this was still going to be underwater when it was complete. Entire towns and cities that would be underwater, and the government building cities further up the hill and forcibly moving all those displaced people into them. It was amazing to see.
If that dam ever fails, the results would be absolutely catastrophic. There are so many cities and towns and millions of people downstream of that dam. It would be devastating.
How can it fall ? Kindly tell us
@ith-mu3ee There are satalight photos that show it is bending out of shape. Also picture by tourists showing cracks in the dam in the ship locks area.
It will fail.
Also there was a report from an old Chinese civil engineer who did work on the possibility of building the dam in the 1950's and he said they could not do it because the underlying ground structure was not stable enough.
@@paintedblue1791 source ? Proof ?
Yeah, the book End of an Era describes this. It also mentions some really great feats of engineering. Both are obviously possible in China but the current climate is concerning.
@@abbyabroad who told u that