Before all the discussion factors came up, when I heard the word “ick” come out of his mouth, my first thought was “he’s trying to make the other wives feel better about the new one.” He thought she was flawless, and couldn’t have cared less about the divorce or children. He wanted to tap fresh game immediately, and this was said to appease the feelings the other wives were having about the changes happening behind the scenes.
Since Kody & Robyn were exposed for having a “sacred covenant “ BEFORE they were married, I believe Kody has been “acting” lying since day one. There was no “ick factor”.
It was all about keeping the secret with Meri. The sister wives are usually the ones who engage in the picking of new wife. He had Meri(head wife) say she picked Robyn. And that at first he wasn’t interested. Not true. But Meri liked that secret with Kody. Made her feel special. All a scam. Then he says he vetted her well.
I remember seeing an episode were Robin said somewhat like " I got all dolled up (pretty) and told my kids let's gonna find you another daddy". and went to the church were Kody was at the altar and Robin was standing out from everyone else, and Kody spotted her . But I can't remember what season 🤔
Kody is an overt narcissist and they tend to be impulsive, Robyn is the covert narcissist and she will filter cause she's 6 steps ahead of her 6th grade acting husband, and covert narcs tend to use emotional manipulatiion!
yes, Kody's ego-intense style is always trying to boost his public image by saying something unflattering about his wives. With Robin it was "the ick factor," He used an order of chili/cheese nachos against Christine. He said Janelle made him feel like "a piece of meat." He had absolutely no mercy on Meri.
@@SeniorPerspectivedo you remember when isobel was about 15 an krusty said he didn't want her to have surgery leaving a scar on her body do you think the scar on dayton's face is a constant reminder for krusty an that's why he can't connect with him.
@@MarieHickson-ro4gl hmm. What a great point. He already seemed to have a hard time due to his Asperger's. But add this to it....I think you're on to something!
@@SeniorPerspective he and sobbin spent 18 months finding the perfect surgeon for dayton but did nothing for isobel and then had the nerve to want her to heal quickly so he could feel better, it's all about his feelings he doesn't care about anyone else
Robyn 🙄 if Kody just says everything in his head then there’s absolutely nothing to be confused about because Kody has flat out said what he really means
I just have to say it - Kody left the'D' off the word ick. I'd bet the rent he was intimate with Robyn from the beginning. No one drives all that way to hold hands all weekend.
I"m with you! Robyn did say "alot of things happened in that car" referring to his impractical 2 door convertible (as a father of 13). I bet a lot happened in the car, in the bedroom, on the couch......
I don’t believe it one bit, I believe Sobin and Kody met before even Meri met Sobin, they put together a plan to have Meri think she was the one that wanted to bring Sobin in the family! And its possible that Sobin and Kody were meeting up with each other when Kody was supposed to be on one of his gun shows? And I think that it was always the plan for Sobin and Kody to really get married and leave the other women in the their dust! They needed the other wives for their money so they tagged them along for the money and finally the other wives realized it except of course Meri🤔
I think the ick was not personal against Robyn OR the kids.... but rather the "ick" of taking on the "stink" of another man's kids. It was about the bio Dad.... the other man in his orbit had to be removed. Remember the comment he made about Christine having to move away to get his "stink" of of her so she could date? Horrifying. But I think Kody is just that repulsive that he is always concerned with elevating his own perceived masculinity. He's so insecure. I think it's part of the reason he had to adopt the kids and get rid of their Dad in their lives. He probably had a conversation with Robyn, like "I'll take on your kids but they have to defer to me as their Dad, be submissive to me, and I have to be the only man that calls himself Dad. We can't have David's stink on them if I support and love these kids!"
Agreed! I think Kody said that about the ick factor as a means to throw off the fact that he was lusting and hot hot hot for her….I still think Robyn had a habit of using her body as a tool in the ‘romance game’ to put politely? I mean, didn’t she steal her first husband away from her sister, got pregnant so then they had to get married? And what about the comment Robyn made about what the other wives should be doing perhaps in the bedroom to keep his attention? I mean that’s a low blow.. pun intended? She made sure the playing field was stacked in her favor from the get-go! She was calculating from the very beginning.. Kody did not ensure fairness within the marriages and therefore and he allowed and helped cause the implosion of this family.. The OG3 didn’t have a chance after that… targeted, manipulated and destroyed.. as far as the marriages go, Meri, Janelle & Christine are not the losers here.. Kody & Robyn are.
Absolutely NO filter…../he says whatever inappropriate thought comes to his mind at the moment! And please Jenny dont use those 2 words ina sentence Thursday noight!!!😂
LIES! I call the "ick factor" statement "clean up on aisle 6". I'm pretty sure he had made this statement about Robyn the season AFTER he had made the "disgusted by Christine and her nachos" remarks. After those remarks, the public really began to turn strongly against Robyn and him . He still actually cared what people thought back in those days, so I think he and Robyn decided that to resurrect their image, he needed to make a similar remark about Robyn to smooth things over with the public. He did this same kind of CYA move when Solomon was born. The public hated him and Robyn for the kissing while Christine was in labor thing. So when Sol was born, Meri came over for some reason while Robyn was in labor, and as Meri was leaving Kody followed her out. He caught Meri on the steps and planted a big kiss on her. Meri seemed very caught off guard because he probably hadn't shown her any affection in years. Then he made some awkward statement about how it's not unusual for a polygamist to kiss one wife while another is in labor. Once again, smoothing things over with the public in an attempt to make what he did with Robyn look like it was a common thing for him to do. There is always an ulterior motive when Robyn or Kody say anything bad about the other.
Amazing that the ick was for her theee kids he had rip from their dad to adopt and not from the massive debt she brought to this financially struggling family with 13 children…. Filter? He needs a muzzle
I’m sorry, but just I think everything that Kody does is to stroke his extreme narcissistic ego… being a polygamist, having all those kids where he is the center of each one their worlds, suits a narcissist to a T!! I really think his ‘religious aspect’ is just a facade anyway, he saw an opportunity that fit his purpose- narcissistically that is.. Kody was never ever man enough for the job… IMO..
i would love someone to ask Robyn, in front of everyone, if she and Kody did it so that then Robyn would offiicially be divorced! Like she said that Christine would have to do to be offically divorced in their church.
Kody is in constant competition with other men. Janelle was divorced too, so that wasn't the ick. It meant that he had won over the other man. Janelle was married and had had sex with Meri's brother, so not being a virgin wasn't the ick. Sadly, it sounds like the physical presence of her having sex with another man (aka children) that was the ick factor for him.
It’s a little of A and B. He was grossed out by Robin and the kids. 1) Robyn: With Robyn he needed her to prove that she was worthy by showing him that she did not leave a “good man” that’s why he kept a on talking about Christine needing to bring him down to get a new partner. I guess Janelle maybe brought down her ex husband because she was attracted to Kody. So Kody didn’t care that Janelle was divorced. Plus that is why Robyn had to embarrass her by giving the purity speech. 2) Kids: Because Kody only sees value in people when he sees them as his possession , he would only accept the kids if he knew that the father would have no say especially because he was a ‘bad man’.
NO DOUBT that Kody and Robyn were physical before their marriage. As far as to if he is lying then or lying now, that's like which came first the chicken or the egg. He lies so much its hard to keep up
Who freaking knows with that man! I remember him (on some episode) saying he had an issue with the idea of dealing with a bio-dad. The ick could've been to save face. It could've been a form of "negging" where you give someone a little insult to trigger insecurities. The man is an absolute tool so I put no thing past him nor any of his idiotic plots.
I think it was lust at first sight with the ick factor of her having three children, this is why Robyn changed her son's name from David to Dayton, combining Da from his name (and dads name) and ton from his last name Preston, the y was added to make it sound right, she had that artist take the old photo of Kody with Christine's first 3 and replace them with her kids images in it, she did the whole purity speech and made her kids block out their real dad. It is all very sick, the lies and manipulation, Robyn has played the whole family including her own children, it's why I can't stand to see her or Kody's face anymore.
I wonder if it’s the fact that Robyn was married much longer than Janell. Was it durning the Mormonism Live interview where he talked about “vetting Robyn hard” to ensure she hadn’t left a “good man”. Robyn had been with Preston longer and had 3 kids for him. Robyn seemed to be trying to explain what Kody meant during the Natalie interview you showed, but she got cut off… I wonder how she would have explained it.
I think he felt ick when he first heard how she was available but she had three kids. But then he heard how all the other polygamist men wanted her ( I heard that on another persons channel) then he wanted her to win the prized cow of the county. Then he just worked on erasing the existence of their father
So he had an ick factor about all his wives. As he was creeped out by one wives eating on a trip. He's complaining about all of them now. Yet he is obsessed about Robyn since they started dating.
Since before the show they were dirt poor, I see nothing wrong with him having an "ick" factor about bringing in a new wife who already had kids.😂. That being said they were definitely bonking long before that marriage ceremony
Her massive debt should have given him more than an icky factor. He should have run away. But we all know why he likes her the best. The mouth herpes speaks for itself.🤣
B,C,D. He was icked out over the kids -- he'd have to make sure she didn't leave a good man, and was simultaneously driven by --loins-- love at first sight, while also having zero filter. That said, having no filter doesn't negate pathological lying aka "acting", so it could be E.
Definitely B, his ick factor was the fact she had 3 kids. I also believe the no-filter thing, says what he wants, if it suits him. I think it may be a tad of an ick since she was divorced as well. Remember that these people view divorce as an extremely sinful thing. I think he had the same ick factor with Janelle being divorced but she had a good job, money and a house that overrode all that!! 😆
Sobbin allowed krusty to play in the back yard and given the rumours of him being gay he thought he'd found heaven if he had an ick factor it was when he had to use the front yard an get her pregnant.
I think the book's right AND the ick factor's the children because he couldn't realistically deny the fact he "wasn't there for everything" despite that ick-factor painting Robyn had done.
I simply love your videos & commentaries! Throughly enjoy your lightheartedness and humor.. I love that you don’t insert constant negative and biased opinions and present them as fact! None of that style of RUclips videos are “Joyful” in the least.. it’s so annoying.. it just perpetuates vitriol and negativity.. but you and your style of presentation…. You are delightful!! I’m also a senior female.. I think age and experience makes us realize and appreciate a lighter, yet truthful take like you have… and how that other style can be so very harmful.. so thank you & please keep up the great work! I’m a forever fan ☮️💜
My gosh, Leslie! You made my day. Thank you! And I feel the same way. There is a way to point out what is wrong and laugh at it rather than to be angry at it. Life is too short!
I agree with everything you said. I have loved Jenny's videos since I first discovered her channel, and I'm now looking forward to Thursday nights. I especially appreciated her kind and thoughtful spirit in discussing Garrison's untimely passing. Forever Fan II.
I've always thought it was to throw off the other wives even way back then that Robyn wasn't his favorite (wink wink) and he wasn't favoring her over the other wives. I think there was already a lot of jealousy and that was just his way of making the OG3 feel better about the situation and himself not look like a jerk (or "cheater" for lack of a better term).
Two thoughts came to mind that weren’t in your choices. Keep in mind that men like Kody are steeped in “purity culture” and that they’re basically taught that women are supposed to come to them as these pure, submissive creatures who are supposed to be their sexual playthings. The first thought I had was-maybe Kody WAS grossed out by her because she not only had been intimate with another man-but his children had literally passed through her body. So maybe it grossed him out that she gave birth to 3 children who were not his. Maybe his thought was, “okay-I know you’ve been intimate with another man-but actually having his children pass through your body-that’s a bridge too far.” The other thought I had was that maybe he was grossed out by the fact that she had been intimate with another man (gasp!) out of wedlock. So maybe in his mind-it wasn’t gross if she’d been married to him-but the fact that she gave in to a physical desire before marriage may have deemed her unworthy by his skewed way of thinking. Janelle had been married before but perhaps she had remained “pure” until married. Ridiculous? Absolutely! I just know men who were brought up in this way have an obsession with women being pure.
The ick was kids and when they were having a difficult time fitting in with the kids. She was worried what Kody was thinking and considered sending them to live with their father.
Hahahaha I love how you pointed out that Kody having no filter is like a toddler! It’s EXACTLY like a toddler and he has the same mentality and like you pointed out, none of the wives nor himself have said he didn’t mean what he said.
Which turned out to be a lie. Meri did not introduce Robyn to him, they just used that to make it seem innocent for the story line. They were actually sneaking around before any of the other wives knew about it.
Oh you are too funny. Love you covering this. I agree,I think Kody often says things that make him look terrible in an effort to look cool. Oh the narcissism never ceases to amaze.
From what I can remember, he and meri kept Robyn a secret from the other two wives at first. My impression was that this made meri feel special, sharing a secret with Kody. It was truly sad, bc it felt like she was just trying to please him by encouraging him to pursue Sobyn, so he’d be more grateful to her, and his esteem of her might increase for giving him “permission” to sneak around a bit behind the others backs. It’s a pattern she seems to fall into, for example, when she divorces Kody so he could adopt sobyn’s kids. She did that for him, and what does he do? He eventually forgets her sacrificial gesture, and verbally and emotionally abuse her. Every time she falls on her sword for him, every time she defends him, like she is now, is just this sick cycle of her putting him first and almost immediately spitting in her face and crushing her heart. She wants his love again, and he’s blanket ly screams in her face to get lost. Leave, never come back, despite what she’s done for him, despite telling Christine to just look at the mountain and keep sweet, as Christine breaks down in front of us. Nothing will EVER bring him back. Yet what does she still do? Defend him. Declares his defense in outrage over people calling his abhorrent behavior out. I no longer feel sorry for her, though. She’s willingly become part of the problem, bending over backwards to enable him and his atrocious actions.
Meri & Kody were together & Meri said Robyn would be Kody's "trophy wife". Really that is such a comment. Meri was pandering to Kody. Sorry Meri did not work. Was she laughing when Robyn got her legal marriage. Not too funny then.
2:39 I took that comment as a defensive move - to protect Robyn, as the new, young wife. At that point, he was worried about the perceived favoritism. There was no “ick” factor. He was already in love with her before the show started. Does anyone think it’s icky that Meri & Kody were going to “parties” to meet young available women, with two wives sitting at home?
I think he did have an ick factor about Robyn, seeing as she was divorced and had 3 kids. But she swept him off his feet with her "treat him as her best customer" approach .
Kody needs full control over all the wives and kids but Robyn’s 3 oldest had a father so he wouldn’t have full control ICK hence the adoption had to happen.
I think he might have, but then he realized how much Robyn was willing to fawn all over him and force her kids to make him the center of their world. I think briefly he couldn’t stand the idea of divided attention and loyalties.
I thought Robyn said the first time she saw Kody he was walking in a town all by himself, no wives with him, maybe she didn't meet him, but she saw him
What I believe is Cody saw her was interested she’s pretty thing of course then he has Mary step in and make arrangements. I understand that. Robin drove 45 hours to go to their church just to meet up with Mary and then she had to be friend her so that he could have at least one sister wife, who was Introducing him because that’s the rules. The sister wives are supposed to do this, but they still kept a secret from the other two women because what they were doing was not right because Cody was not going by the rules I believe at one point he found out about her marriage and three kids and maybe he had a little hesitation because of that but then he was set up with her and that’s when he decided that wasn’t gonna matter cause he wanted her
I think that he says whatever he thinks will fit his image of himself in that moment. Meaning, he has a very isolated image of himself that does not take into account other peoples points of view. So, I think he’s trying to make himself cool in the moment, not having any idea how it will land and not caring about other peoples feelings.
He had “ick” towards taking on someone else’s kids! Not Robyn! He didn’t want to compete with the father and he and Robyn took care of THAT didn’t they! I would love to hear from the father of Robyn’s oldest children and how they did him so dirty and those poor children!
I love this. Totally up my alley. C. Love (or rather lust) at first sight. Yea, Kody has no filter but that’s not to say that he can be taken at his word. I really think he’s a bit neurodivergent. Just because he said it doesn’t mean that’s what he meant. A lot of people have to talk through things to help them actually think more clearly about what they mean. And I TOTALLY think he said there was an “ick” factor with Robyn to make himself look cool, or like the decision to bring Robyn into the family had nothing to do with hedonistic pursuits but rather a well thought out, higher calling for God Almighty Himself. Which we know is total BS. So he has to claim an “ick” factor that he had to force himself to overcome so he could be a good, obedient follower of God not his ha-penis.
Love your channel; you make me laugh! Side note: in a whispering voice... You forgot the c in becoming on your lovely yellow banner for Thursday night readings. Looking forward to seeing you then!
IMO, Robyn wanted nothing to do with Kody since he was poor, etc. Because Robyn wasn't interested in Kody, Kody had to put up an 'uninterested' facade. When the news of the show came to light, Robyn's interest was piqued, so Kody could admit he had an interest in Robyn. It's all about Kody's pride/lust and Robyn's greed.
Definitely B and C. He was lying to cover his immediate attraction and wasn’t happy about taking on another man’s children. Obviously now those kids are his favourites. Seems he quickly got over any “ick factors” in nano seconds.
Janelle was married to Meris brother before Kody. I think that's why they don't talk about Janelles first husband. And why Janelle and Meri had a bad relationship.
*Is it just we or have there been a few stories over the years of how Kody and Robyn met? First it was at a party they were all at. than it was they met and church. than it was at a dance they were at and now it's Meri's cousins house*
I agree. No way is Kody going to drive for 4-5 hrs to see Robyn every weekend (while they were 'courting') and just hold hands. No way.
Rob-em was taking music lessons from Grody. That's how she became an expert at playing the skin flute!.
Before all the discussion factors came up, when I heard the word “ick” come out of his mouth, my first thought was “he’s trying to make the other wives feel better about the new one.” He thought she was flawless, and couldn’t have cared less about the divorce or children. He wanted to tap fresh game immediately, and this was said to appease the feelings the other wives were having about the changes happening behind the scenes.
Since Kody & Robyn were exposed for having a “sacred covenant “ BEFORE they were married, I believe Kody has been “acting” lying since day one. There was no “ick factor”.
good point.
It was all about keeping the secret with Meri. The sister wives are usually the ones who engage in the picking of new wife. He had Meri(head wife) say she picked Robyn. And that at first he wasn’t interested. Not true. But Meri liked that secret with Kody. Made her feel special. All a scam. Then he says he vetted her well.
I remember seeing an episode were Robin said somewhat like " I got all dolled up (pretty) and told my kids let's gonna find you another daddy". and went to the church were Kody was at the altar and Robin was standing out from everyone else, and Kody spotted her . But I can't remember what season 🤔
Woah!! I do not remember that! I'll keep my eyes open as I'm slowly starting to do a rewatch of the show.@@MISSUNIVERSE1830
good point. They love their secrets.@@laneneal3510
Oh yes he and SOBBYN were definitely knocking boots before the wedding
That is PERFECT! Sobbyn...Love it!
Yes, i remember a scene where there were condoms on the nightstand in Robyns bedroom. I bet they used plenty of them before getting married.
He is a liar from wife one and day one and rewriting history is just the beginning. He tossed his other wives and children aside. he is gross
Can't argue with that!
That's true and no arguments from me either. You are spot on. 👌
Repulsive man he gives me the Ick factor
lol. Good point. He gives everyone the ick factor!
Yes!! You nailed it!
Kody is the definition of ICK 😆
Don’t you know Kody thinks he’s allowed to break the rules because he’s Kody Brown for heaven’s sake! Can we say NARCISSIST!?
Kody thinks he’s “all that and some beer and Skittles”.
(Apparently, a dream snack for him.)
LOL. Yes, he does!
It's not skittles the candy. Beer and skittles is a saying that means life isn't all fun and games. Skittles is a game that is like bowling.
The way Kody slings them loins all around compound Brown gives ME the ick
I always thought the "ick factor" had everything to do with her having kids with another man.
Could be!
I’m having an ick factor right now
LOL
Best comment! Probably 1st time in history 100% of commenters could agree!!! 😂😂😂
Kody is an overt narcissist and they tend to be impulsive, Robyn is the covert narcissist and she will filter cause she's 6 steps ahead of her 6th grade acting husband, and covert narcs tend to use emotional manipulatiion!
Great info, Mary!
Oh yeah, I agree 👏🏼 👏🏼
That’s exactly what my ex-husband was like, a covert narcissist.
yes, Kody's ego-intense style is always trying to boost his public image by saying something unflattering about his wives. With Robin it was "the ick factor," He used an order of chili/cheese nachos against Christine. He said Janelle made him feel like "a piece of meat." He had absolutely no mercy on Meri.
Such a good observation, Renne!
He is one JERK.😂
Always wondered why he said that about Janelle. She's very independent, so why would a rack of subprime meat interest her?
Kody + "loins" = actual ICK Factor!
I think he fell for Robyn but had the ick factor because of the kids. The man is just gross 😂
I see that! And he never seemed connected to Dayton
@@SeniorPerspectivedo you remember when isobel was about 15 an krusty said he didn't want her to have surgery leaving a scar on her body do you think the scar on dayton's face is a constant reminder for krusty an that's why he can't connect with him.
@@MarieHickson-ro4gl hmm. What a great point. He already seemed to have a hard time due to his Asperger's. But add this to it....I think you're on to something!
@@SeniorPerspective he and sobbin spent 18 months finding the perfect surgeon for dayton but did nothing for isobel and then had the nerve to want her to heal quickly so he could feel better, it's all about his feelings he doesn't care about anyone else
@@MarieHickson-ro4gl yes, the comparison of those two situations is stunning!
Robyn 🙄 if Kody just says everything in his head then there’s absolutely nothing to be confused about because Kody has flat out said what he really means
So, Kody is a cheater!!! Thought this all along. “B”
His pencil was driving the wheel….. sorry I wrote that but I think we all know already
"driving the wheel." LOL
I just have to say it - Kody left the'D' off the word ick. I'd bet the rent he was intimate with Robyn from the beginning. No one drives all that way to hold hands all weekend.
I"m with you! Robyn did say "alot of things happened in that car" referring to his impractical 2 door convertible (as a father of 13). I bet a lot happened in the car, in the bedroom, on the couch......
Hahaha!!!😂😂😂😂
I'm with you about that...
I don’t believe it one bit, I believe Sobin and Kody met before even Meri met Sobin, they put together a plan to have Meri think she was the one that wanted to bring Sobin in the family! And its possible that Sobin and Kody were meeting up with each other when Kody was supposed to be on one of his gun shows? And I think that it was always the plan for Sobin and Kody to really get married and leave the other women in the their dust! They needed the other wives for their money so they tagged them along for the money and finally the other wives realized it except of course Meri🤔
oh, I LOVE a good conspiracy theory!
I think the ick was not personal against Robyn OR the kids.... but rather the "ick" of taking on the "stink" of another man's kids. It was about the bio Dad.... the other man in his orbit had to be removed. Remember the comment he made about Christine having to move away to get his "stink" of of her so she could date? Horrifying. But I think Kody is just that repulsive that he is always concerned with elevating his own perceived masculinity. He's so insecure. I think it's part of the reason he had to adopt the kids and get rid of their Dad in their lives. He probably had a conversation with Robyn, like "I'll take on your kids but they have to defer to me as their Dad, be submissive to me, and I have to be the only man that calls himself Dad. We can't have David's stink on them if I support and love these kids!"
You have an excellent point! Option E: "ick" of David!
I heard somewhere that Robyn's ex-husband and Christine are first cousins. If true, that certainly complicates things.
Wow I agree but never thought about it that way!
Exactly
Yes, I think that's true @@delannadeladurantaye2934
I am SOOO sick of that Robyn.....I cannot wait until Thursday night! There was no "Ick"..he is a liar liar pants on fire!
Agreed! I think Kody said that about the ick factor as a means to throw off the fact that he was lusting and hot hot hot for her….I still think Robyn had a habit of using her body as a tool in the ‘romance game’ to put politely? I mean, didn’t she steal her first husband away from her sister, got pregnant so then they had to get married? And what about the comment Robyn made about what the other wives should be doing perhaps in the bedroom to keep his attention? I mean that’s a low blow.. pun intended? She made sure the playing field was stacked in her favor from the get-go! She was calculating from the very beginning.. Kody did not ensure fairness within the marriages and therefore and he allowed and helped cause the implosion of this family.. The OG3 didn’t have a chance after that… targeted, manipulated and destroyed.. as far as the marriages go, Meri, Janelle & Christine are not the losers here.. Kody & Robyn are.
@@leslierutledge7196 I agree 100%! I also think Christine has been Robyn's target from the beginning...
thursday will be fun!!!
@@SeniorPerspective absolutely!
Yup! I Forgot about that!@@leslierutledge7196
yeah right... he was definately sexually attracted to her...
Absolutely NO filter…../he says whatever inappropriate thought comes to his mind at the moment! And please Jenny dont use those 2 words ina sentence Thursday noight!!!😂
LOL Merry. You got it!
LIES! I call the "ick factor" statement "clean up on aisle 6". I'm pretty sure he had made this statement about Robyn the season AFTER he had made the "disgusted by Christine and her nachos" remarks. After those remarks, the public really began to turn strongly against Robyn and him . He still actually cared what people thought back in those days, so I think he and Robyn decided that to resurrect their image, he needed to make a similar remark about Robyn to smooth things over with the public. He did this same kind of CYA move when Solomon was born. The public hated him and Robyn for the kissing while Christine was in labor thing. So when Sol was born, Meri came over for some reason while Robyn was in labor, and as Meri was leaving Kody followed her out. He caught Meri on the steps and planted a big kiss on her. Meri seemed very caught off guard because he probably hadn't shown her any affection in years. Then he made some awkward statement about how it's not unusual for a polygamist to kiss one wife while another is in labor. Once again, smoothing things over with the public in an attempt to make what he did with Robyn look like it was a common thing for him to do. There is always an ulterior motive when Robyn or Kody say anything bad about the other.
Bingo. Nailed it!
You got it. It's trying to save face
I’d forgotten about the kiss with Meri, but you are exactly right!
Amazing that the ick was for her theee kids he had rip from their dad to adopt and not from the massive debt she brought to this financially struggling family with 13 children…. Filter? He needs a muzzle
I’m sorry, but just I think everything that Kody does is to stroke his extreme narcissistic ego… being a polygamist, having all those kids where he is the center of each one their worlds, suits a narcissist to a T!! I really think his ‘religious aspect’ is just a facade anyway, he saw an opportunity that fit his purpose- narcissistically that is.. Kody was never ever man enough for the job… IMO..
"Kody was never ever man enough for the job". so true!
Agree 100%
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Aw, that is the sweetest comment ever. Thank you!
i would love someone to ask Robyn, in front of everyone, if she and Kody did it so that then Robyn would offiicially be divorced! Like she said that Christine would have to do to be offically divorced in their church.
I would love to hear her answer!
Absolutely! She told on herself that time!
Yes, but with a lie detector on both !
Kody is in constant competition with other men. Janelle was divorced too, so that wasn't the ick. It meant that he had won over the other man. Janelle was married and had had sex with Meri's brother, so not being a virgin wasn't the ick. Sadly, it sounds like the physical presence of her having sex with another man (aka children) that was the ick factor for him.
It does sound that way, doesn't it, Cathy?
Kody seems to say the opposite of what he really thinks
Well, THAT'S a good point, Katrina!
It’s a little of A and B. He was grossed out by Robin and the kids.
1) Robyn: With Robyn he needed her to prove that she was worthy by showing him that she did not leave a “good man” that’s why he kept a on talking about Christine needing to bring him down to get a new partner. I guess Janelle maybe brought down her ex husband because she was attracted to Kody. So Kody didn’t care that Janelle was divorced. Plus that is why Robyn had to embarrass her by giving the purity speech.
2) Kids: Because Kody only sees value in people when he sees them as his possession , he would only accept the kids if he knew that the father would have no say especially because he was a ‘bad man’.
NO DOUBT that Kody and Robyn were physical before their marriage. As far as to if he is lying then or lying now, that's like which came first the chicken or the egg. He lies so much its hard to keep up
Good point, Carol! In the end, does it matter? It's ALL lies!
I would say that about another person! Kody AND Sobyn have an ick factor!
Love your editing by the way. Very entertaining.
You're so kind. Thank you very much!
Who freaking knows with that man! I remember him (on some episode) saying he had an issue with the idea of dealing with a bio-dad. The ick could've been to save face. It could've been a form of "negging" where you give someone a little insult to trigger insecurities. The man is an absolute tool so I put no thing past him nor any of his idiotic plots.
I so agree!!
"Ick factor " is cuz she was not a virgin.
THAT! He would rather pretend they were immaculate conceptions. 😂
I think it was lust at first sight with the ick factor of her having three children, this is why Robyn changed her son's name from David to Dayton, combining Da from his name (and dads name) and ton from his last name Preston, the y was added to make it sound right, she had that artist take the old photo of Kody with Christine's first 3 and replace them with her kids images in it, she did the whole purity speech and made her kids block out their real dad. It is all very sick, the lies and manipulation, Robyn has played the whole family including her own children, it's why I can't stand to see her or Kody's face anymore.
The Cindy Brady clip is wonderful!
right? flashback!
I wonder if it’s the fact that Robyn was married much longer than Janell. Was it durning the Mormonism Live interview where he talked about “vetting Robyn hard” to ensure she hadn’t left a “good man”. Robyn had been with Preston longer and had 3 kids for him. Robyn seemed to be trying to explain what Kody meant during the Natalie interview you showed, but she got cut off… I wonder how she would have explained it.
She did say it was a marriage and kids that was a lot to handle when he had a lot to handle already. Kind of a non-answer.
He was doing something to her hard, but I don't think it was vetting.
I think he felt ick when he first heard how she was available but she had three kids. But then he heard how all the other polygamist men wanted her ( I heard that on another persons channel) then he wanted her to win the prized cow of the county. Then he just worked on erasing the existence of their father
Kody had the “When the pencil stands up, the brain shuts down” syndrome. Lol..
I doubt Robyn was as desired as that.
There was know men after Robyn, she lied
This is a good point!
Oh old kod most certainly won the prize cow!
It's not love at first sight if he had an ick factor.
So he had an ick factor about all his wives. As he was creeped out by one wives eating on a trip. He's complaining about all of them now. Yet he is obsessed about Robyn since they started dating.
Since before the show they were dirt poor, I see nothing wrong with him having an "ick" factor about bringing in a new wife who already had kids.😂. That being said they were definitely bonking long before that marriage ceremony
Her massive debt should have given him more than an icky factor. He should have run away. But we all know why he likes her the best. The mouth herpes speaks for itself.🤣
Kody probably likes being diapered in the privacy of his bedroom...
B,C,D. He was icked out over the kids -- he'd have to make sure she didn't leave a good man, and was simultaneously driven by --loins-- love at first sight, while also having zero filter. That said, having no filter doesn't negate pathological lying aka "acting", so it could be E.
Excellent analysis. I love it!
Definitely B, his ick factor was the fact she had 3 kids. I also believe the no-filter thing, says what he wants, if it suits him. I think it may be a tad of an ick since she was divorced as well. Remember that these people view divorce as an extremely sinful thing. I think he had the same ick factor with Janelle being divorced but she had a good job, money and a house that overrode all that!! 😆
Good point. Janelle's home ownership and bank account helped him look right passed the divorce!!
Sobbin allowed krusty to play in the back yard and given the rumours of him being gay he thought he'd found heaven if he had an ick factor it was when he had to use the front yard an get her pregnant.
oh my word, Marie....never heard back yard/front yard before!! LOL!
I think the book's right AND the ick factor's the children because he couldn't realistically deny the fact he "wasn't there for everything" despite that ick-factor painting Robyn had done.
the ick factor painting! lol
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Definitely E: lust from his loins 🙈
AAAHHH! The ick factor is his loins! lol
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I've always thought it was to throw off the other wives even way back then that Robyn wasn't his favorite (wink wink) and he wasn't favoring her over the other wives. I think there was already a lot of jealousy and that was just his way of making the OG3 feel better about the situation and himself not look like a jerk (or "cheater" for lack of a better term).
I agree with you! He knew his feelings for Robyn would upset the other wives (understandably). So he tried to fake it.
Two thoughts came to mind that weren’t in your choices. Keep in mind that men like Kody are steeped in “purity culture” and that they’re basically taught that women are supposed to come to them as these pure, submissive creatures who are supposed to be their sexual playthings. The first thought I had was-maybe Kody WAS grossed out by her because she not only had been intimate with another man-but his children had literally passed through her body. So maybe it grossed him out that she gave birth to 3 children who were not his. Maybe his thought was, “okay-I know you’ve been intimate with another man-but actually having his children pass through your body-that’s a bridge too far.” The other thought I had was that maybe he was grossed out by the fact that she had been intimate with another man (gasp!) out of wedlock. So maybe in his mind-it wasn’t gross if she’d been married to him-but the fact that she gave in to a physical desire before marriage may have deemed her unworthy by his skewed way of thinking. Janelle had been married before but perhaps she had remained “pure” until married. Ridiculous? Absolutely! I just know men who were brought up in this way have an obsession with women being pure.
He said it for the reaction. One big center of attention. Robyn’s reaction was like she’s missing a sandwich from her picnic basket!
The ick was kids and when they were having a difficult time fitting in with the kids. She was worried what Kody was thinking and considered sending them to live with their father.
Hahahaha I love how you pointed out that Kody having no filter is like a toddler! It’s EXACTLY like a toddler and he has the same mentality and like you pointed out, none of the wives nor himself have said he didn’t mean what he said.
Which turned out to be a lie. Meri did not introduce Robyn to him, they just used that to make it seem innocent for the story line. They were actually sneaking around before any of the other wives knew about it.
I could believe that.
No “ick” factor. He was trying to play down his physical attraction to her from the beginning, in front of the other wives. He’s a liar.
No excuses….most of use learn self control and manners. He’s a grown up ..figure it out or face the consequences! What a pip!
Oh you are too funny. Love you covering this. I agree,I think Kody often says things that make him look terrible in an effort to look cool. Oh the narcissism never ceases to amaze.
Someone with Tourette’s has a better filter than Kody.
From what I can remember, he and meri kept Robyn a secret from the other two wives at first. My impression was that this made meri feel special, sharing a secret with Kody. It was truly sad, bc it felt like she was just trying to please him by encouraging him to pursue Sobyn, so he’d be more grateful to her, and his esteem of her might increase for giving him “permission” to sneak around a bit behind the others backs. It’s a pattern she seems to fall into, for example, when she divorces Kody so he could adopt sobyn’s kids. She did that for him, and what does he do? He eventually forgets her sacrificial gesture, and verbally and emotionally abuse her. Every time she falls on her sword for him, every time she defends him, like she is now, is just this sick cycle of her putting him first and almost immediately spitting in her face and crushing her heart. She wants his love again, and he’s blanket ly screams in her face to get lost. Leave, never come back, despite what she’s done for him, despite telling Christine to just look at the mountain and keep sweet, as Christine breaks down in front of us. Nothing will EVER bring him back. Yet what does she still do? Defend him. Declares his defense in outrage over people calling his abhorrent behavior out. I no longer feel sorry for her, though. She’s willingly become part of the problem, bending over backwards to enable him and his atrocious actions.
Meri & Kody were together & Meri said Robyn would be Kody's "trophy wife". Really that is such a comment. Meri was pandering to Kody. Sorry Meri did not work. Was she laughing when Robyn got her legal marriage. Not too funny then.
2:39 I took that comment as a defensive move - to protect Robyn, as the new, young wife. At that point, he was worried about the perceived favoritism.
There was no “ick” factor. He was already in love with her before the show started.
Does anyone think it’s icky that Meri & Kody were going to “parties” to meet young available women, with two wives sitting at home?
Well, THAT'S a good point, Becky!
He wasn't looking, ,, Meri wanted her in the family. She wanted a friend. How soon she probably regretted many if her decisions
I had no idea that Robyn had a child out of wedlock. She uses the same “tricks” to get every man she wants, apparently.
I think he did have an ick factor about Robyn, seeing as she was divorced and had 3 kids. But she swept him off his feet with her "treat him as her best customer" approach .
Maybe thats why meri and Janelle has always had trouble between them. Wow yes.
Kody needs full control over all the wives and kids but Robyn’s 3 oldest had a father so he wouldn’t have full control ICK hence the adoption had to happen.
oh, well that's a good point!
I think he might have, but then he realized how much Robyn was willing to fawn all over him and force her kids to make him the center of their world. I think briefly he couldn’t stand the idea of divided attention and loyalties.
I like that answer!
I agree with you, Jenny. Cody is just wrong. Period.
There was no ick. Kody and R had something going on, I think, before Meri ever got involved. Imho
Good conspiracy thought! I'm on board!
I thought Robyn said the first time she saw Kody he was walking in a town all by himself, no wives with him, maybe she didn't meet him, but she saw him
Oh, I never heard THAT story before!
Oh it was “lust lust from his monkey pocket”😮
What I believe is Cody saw her was interested she’s pretty thing of course then he has Mary step in and make arrangements. I understand that. Robin drove 45 hours to go to their church just to meet up with Mary and then she had to be friend her so that he could have at least one sister wife, who was Introducing him because that’s the rules. The sister wives are supposed to do this, but they still kept a secret from the other two women because what they were doing was not right because Cody was not going by the rules I believe at one point he found out about her marriage and three kids and maybe he had a little hesitation because of that but then he was set up with her and that’s when he decided that wasn’t gonna matter cause he wanted her
I believe Kody was downplaying his feeling for Robyn because of his true feeling that were clearly being seen.
Robin laughed, she was told what Kody going to say because they had a lot of secrets
I think that he says whatever he thinks will fit his image of himself in that moment. Meaning, he has a very isolated image of himself that does not take into account other peoples points of view. So, I think he’s trying to make himself cool in the moment, not having any idea how it will land and not caring about other peoples feelings.
I think it is C. This is the first time I’ve seen your show, and I’m hooked. 🌸
Who knows. The man is such a terrible liar. He just likes the sound of his own voice 🤮
I wonder if he said he had an ick factor when he first met Robyn because of that embarrassing nacho story he told about the time he met Christine?
He had “ick” towards taking on someone else’s kids! Not Robyn! He didn’t want to compete with the father and he and Robyn took care of THAT didn’t they! I would love to hear from the father of Robyn’s oldest children and how they did him so dirty and those poor children!
I love this. Totally up my alley.
C. Love (or rather lust) at first sight.
Yea, Kody has no filter but that’s not to say that he can be taken at his word. I really think he’s a bit neurodivergent. Just because he said it doesn’t mean that’s what he meant. A lot of people have to talk through things to help them actually think more clearly about what they mean. And I TOTALLY think he said there was an “ick” factor with Robyn to make himself look cool, or like the decision to bring Robyn into the family had nothing to do with hedonistic pursuits but rather a well thought out, higher calling for God Almighty Himself. Which we know is total BS. So he has to claim an “ick” factor that he had to force himself to overcome so he could be a good, obedient follower of God not his ha-penis.
Well put, Janelle! I'm with you
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For Kody it was love at first sight meeting Robyn, But her children were the"ick factor"...❤
Did you have to say, "stirring" .... Reaching for the bucket, under my Cloak. It has become a necessary accessory 🫢
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I don’t think Cody thinks. Cody lies and lies and lies and lies. That’s what I think.
D. He has no filter. I also think initially he said something about not crazy about a dating a soccer mom.
HE did??? Do you remember when?
Yes, he did, a couple of times. A soccer mom with a mini van, I think is what he said. Wish I knew which season and which episode.
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The ick comment was to throw the other wives off his track and to hide that he was smitten with Robyn.
I was about to comment the same theory as you! I completely agree.
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No ick factor and I believe it was a burning in his pencil ✏️
Kody is the ick.
IMO, Robyn wanted nothing to do with Kody since he was poor, etc. Because Robyn wasn't interested in Kody, Kody had to put up an 'uninterested' facade. When the news of the show came to light, Robyn's interest was piqued, so Kody could admit he had an interest in Robyn. It's all about Kody's pride/lust and Robyn's greed.
Kody mentioning "loins" was ick
Definitely B and C. He was lying to cover his immediate attraction and wasn’t happy about taking on another man’s children. Obviously now those kids are his favourites. Seems he quickly got over any “ick factors” in nano seconds.
Janelle was married to Meris brother before Kody. I think that's why they don't talk about Janelles first husband. And why Janelle and Meri had a bad relationship.
Kody had an affair and he is trying to cover it with Meri made me and I had an ick factor.
Kody must be the original ick factor of most women these days.
Kody is an ICK factor! I actually throw up a bit when I see him. Crybrows Sobyn is a gold digger basically . The OG3 paid off her bills.
*Is it just we or have there been a few stories over the years of how Kody and Robyn met? First it was at a party they were all at. than it was they met and church. than it was at a dance they were at and now it's Meri's cousins house*