@@ElectricExperimentsRobert33 Did you try to spray the bearings with cleaner and lubricant every once in a while? I have a Cylinder spray (pink color) by Nortek and is called Clean and Lube - I use it all times for my electric and electronic works - it is great for all electric works similar to this.
@@fifaham not sure how well thus would work. In essence the motor works by heating up the bearings at the point of contact by a few microns. It’s not a lot in the grand scheme of things but with the tolerances seen on bearings it’s a lot. Mix any kind of lubricant into it and it could possibly cool the bearings to a point that their efficiency is dramatically reduced or even cause it to stop working.
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There are magnetic fields. This can not be argued for there is a current of moving electric charge. However, you could argue (wrongly I believe) that the motion of this motor is not due to electromagnetism but to thermal expansion of the ball bearings in the race.
This motor is based on magnetostriction. The ball bearings undergo a shape change as the electric current is passed through them. Since the ball bearings are in point contact with both inner and outer race of the ball bearing itself. The motor, once started by hand will allow this alternating shape-change to force the rotor to rotate. Eventually the steel balls hard and polished surfaces will degrade due electro-erosion and the point contacts will be reduced thereby resulting in slowing down and eventually coming to a stop. It’s a laboratory curiosity and has no use in the real world.
why not insulate the bearing from the shaft and induce the same current to the shaft itself using a contact the field would be the same and the bearings would not overheat due to the current passing thru the bearing assembly. but still it will have the same pos or neg potential. and it may eliminate the heat problem.
I should add a few points: First, I like it. It's a great demonstration of induction motors. Second, if you replaced the heavy copper mountings on either side of the rotor with two coils and passed a current through them instead, you would have something very similar to a regular 2-pole induction motor. No need to make the current go through the rotor spindle. Adding some shorted coils next to the main coils would produce the "shaded pole" effect and the motor would self start. I'll try it and post the video. Or you could do that yourself....
The bearings heat up. Because the connection is better on the bottom because of the weight of the rotor the heating/expansion is uneven which gives the rotation.
Good and beautiful, but it would be preferable if you wrote some explanation for us, measuring the bearing, for example, how many amperes did it consume to rotate, and what were you doing with the switch, were you just disconnecting the electricity? And then you get it? . The video is very important, thanks
It is not the balls heating up and changing into an elliptical shape that causes rotation,as the balls being that shape would exert the same force in either direction that would cancel out any unidirectional force that caused rotation. The rotation is caused by the two magnetic fields produced around the inner and outer bearing races,and the opposite field being created in the balls. Depending on which way you spin it,determonds which half of the magnetic field in the ball is closest to the opposite field that is created in the rings of the bearing's. Grab yourself a compass,and place it near the bearings when the device is running.
+TinManPower from your explanation, do you think the size of the bearing would effect the rotational speed or torque. I mean would a larger bearing have more speed and torque??? weslingm
Its part of the infamous homopolar generator, however, you are only using the "motor" part of the principle. Tesla's version had both the generator and the motor functioning as one unit. Long story short, you would spin one disk with the magnetic field oriented in one direction, this would spin the electrons out from the center toward the periphery, the electrons were conducted via a conducting belt to the other disk, spinning the same direction, but the magnetic field was oriented in the opposite direction, causing the electrons to flow from the periphery toward the center, thus "motoring" the second disk, there you have a self exciting or self running dynamo electric generator.
Flywheels are very useful. I found a few at the dump, so I will be experimenting with different sizes on my 40W homemade crank generator with supercapacitor bank.
It's a single phase a.c. induction motor. The current in the rotor shaft and in the rotor itself is unimportant. The current on each side, going up from the connector to the bearing and down from the other bearing to the other connector creates a horizontal magnetic field tangential to the rotor. Eddy currents induced in the rotor cause the rotation. It will run either way.
Incorrect. This motor can also run off of DC. This motor works off of the thermal expansion of the balls in the bearing. www.physics.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/motor.pdf
Interesting! I think this design has a very low torque output. There will be a magnetic field, but it is very weak since there is no coil, so you need to start it spinning, and a finger can slow it down.
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That's a beautiful motor. It appears that eddy currents are more useful than we think. Isn't that how the old electric wattmeter or energy meter (measuring kWh) works - a rotating disc of aluminium driven by a current-carrying coil? The drawback in this case is that the whole of the motor is electrified - hence the gloves, I would imagine. The amperage is also very high, and if the motor stalled for any reason then excessive heat would be generated. I would think that is the reason the low a.c. value of 6V is needed. It would be nice to measure the efficiency of the motor (i.e. mechanical power versus the input electrical power). It might be very low, frictional losses notwithstanding.
Mike oliver no, it's the magnetic fields produced that drive the motor. I don't fully understand it myself, but it's certainly not the balls. That would generate an equal force in both directions, thus producing no power.
Rýán Túçk oh bullshit wise ass, you are so full of crap, i got this statment from a book i own that was written by electrcal and mechanical engineers on exotic batteries and motors and how the fuck do you get off telling me the distortion is tangential to rotation? also com·ple·men·ta·ry ˌkämpləˈment(ə)rē/Submit adjective 1. combining in such a way as to enhance or emphasize the qualities of each other or another. so there you have it wise ass also not all bearings do this witch eliminates the magnetic field theory
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The main advantage of graphite is it can be a dry lubrication and does not drag as much on the bearings, having tried silicon grease and seen heat dry it out it can set like glue. WD40 for example increases in viscosity as it dries out and becomes like glue and can cause a lot of drag as it dries out. But Graphite behaves in a different way as it can be both wet or dry lubrication. Provided the graphite is not suspended in a silicone based liquid that is. I would suggest experimenting with various types of lubrication as I have tried many on my large house fan as it was prone to seize up or squeal at me due to heat from the motor.
as mentioned the contact patch on the balls expands as it heats up from current. No preload needed just the weight of the assembly on the balls is sufficient.
In my opinion, the flywheel is axially magnetized. Current can be either direct or alternating. When current flows through the two bearings supporting the shaft, the balls become conductive rods in the magnetic field and the balls are pushed in the same direction, so the shaft rotates. The direction of shaft rotation, with AC depends on the direction of the axial magnetic field of the flywheel, with DC depends on the direction of the current and the direction of the axial magnetic field of the flywheel.
This is very interesting. I get the feeling that the current going through the bearings may be where the rotation force is created, the ball bearings being charged, and reacting to the bearing races? With that in mind., I would like to try this without the center flywheel to see if it still rotates the shaft. All in all, it is pretty amazing.
You came the closest to what I think is happening. Heat is the effect, magnetism is the cause. I was watching the mayan engine. It showed a magnet cut on a 45* angle on the N and S ends. Inbetween two parallel South sided facing magnets. The 45* angle magnet slid off rapidly to the side. If the 45* angle magnet was the ballbearing and the race and outer ring were the S facing magnets then, this is why the motor rotates. Not heat which would slow the motor down until it seizes. Car engines have starters, we used to crank cars over by hand.
If I recall a conductor handing current has a rotating magnetic field around it: Right hand rule/Left hand rule could this possibly be the effect of that rule of current flow thru a conductor?
Cool. Have you measured the current? RPM? You left the power on for only a few seconds at a time. If powered for a while longer, will it continue to accelerate or does it stabilize at about the RPM shown in the video?
I love a kinetic flywheel! ive researched them a lot, Williams racing has a 16 minute that tells why and how they are so monumental! never seen a "ball bearing motor" before, also interesting! I will have something of this nature aboard my EV's later than sooner, but im making progress! great clip, look forward to more, thanks for posting!
Have you tried this with roller bearings? The greater surface area could make the bearings last longer(or get hotter), if they're as thick as the ball bearings. Unless the many angles of the ball is needed to create this magnetic effect, The one angle of the roller bearing should be enough. It's not a heat engine. It's magnetic energy produced by the high amps. If there's current, there's magnetic fields. 230v to 6v, 20a/6v=0.3r, 0.3r/230v=0.0013a The flywheel works just like a flywheel, torque is stored in it. Hear the bearings squeal while torquing up the flywheel?
because high current is technically simply passing through a conductor, there must be a magnetic field present. You pass current through a straight wire and the field will rotate at 90 degrees of course. the question is what makes the rotor spin lol. what is the created magnetic field in the shaft interacting with.. I have to assume lorentz force is working here and somehow either each bearing and each end of the shaft, or something else is creating a field as well.
This is nothing more than a Thermokinetic Motor. They were invented many years ago. They are not really Electric or Electromagentic motors at all. The AC or DC currrent is a convenient way to heat up the bearings to produce torque.
It's kind of hard to explain, if you have a basic understanding of electrical and thermal physics then you should be able to understand it. Look up a study paper or an article explaining how it works if you want to, they will probably go into more detail.
Electric Experiments Roobert33 hmm, too bad :< doesn't something like "conductive oil" or another conductive lubricant (with little resistance) exist yet?
I really dig this machine a lot. I've watched this presentation many times. I see great potential in using the stored energy within the system, which can be syphoned off that flywheel (which could be made much heavier... instead of 5 pounds, try 50 pounds) to make lots of electricity, some of which will power the device and keep it running... dare I say it, endlessly. Try creating a vertical axis version, which will reduce the stress/wear on the ball bearings... and add an airing to the base of the shaft. An "airing" is a pair of magnets facing off to create an air cushion, i.e. no friction from metal to metal contact.
is it a form of tesla iron lag motor, its very basic and similar to this design, iron slightly magnetizes and holds a field till another pulse comes along and causes a force of rotation.
any time you short a electrical field you create a scalar torsion, maxwell /heavyside on Lorentz transormations see col tom bearden, you can think in terms that this is the oppisit of a tesla coil you can watch welding cable "Jump" from these forces I knew about homopolar motors but this is more like where the earths magnetic field is charged by the sun (not iron core thats just silly)
+Bill Russell why do people keep endorsing bearden? it's not hard to look refutations of his mathemathical rantings on google and find what appear to be solid refutations of his apparent nonsense talk. he's a true weirdo
scalar fields are a fact apart from bearden you need to up your game, scalar shorting is exactly how a tesla coil works, we would not have high voltage spark plugs were it not for scalar sum shorting, same thing for magneto's were the magnetic moment is shorted as inductive field and it is what propels a rail gun. dead short of capacitive potential
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Imaging this on a bike or 1 man vehicle. Pump up the RPMs in one direction, then use a lever to change the flywheels direction quick (like putting your car in gear) and ZOOM! Then you can charge it up every time you stop, or have some low amperage unit keeping it spinning as your go. I think it's so practical and could easily be implemented in a gas combustion system as to not disturb the powers that be.
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The flywheel is likely made of "soft iron" (easily magnetized and demagnetized). The alternating current magnetizes the iron, which then interacts with the field from the circuit. This also applies to your other video with the washing machine motor.
Landotter1 Actually alternating current does magnetize. This is how the principle of induction works. The difference between an AC magnetic field and a DC magnetic field is that the AC magnetic field's poles are oscillating at the frequency of the signal, whereas the DC magnetic field's poles do not oscillate at all.
if only we could get half the fat kids off the couch to even try this mundane and obvious physics, life would be a thousand times better. besides, I don't think baking brownies is that much more magical, still doesn't stop me from making them. ^^
To be clear the contact at the bearing is still engaged to the input current from the source you just add the field to the shaft too while the insulator on the bearing ID prevents the arcing.
Correct me if I am wrong, high current (little to no resistance) draws a whole lot of current to the motor, especially if it is metal. Also the efficiency would matter as well because that determines how much heat (aka swelling) occurs to the bearings. There is a RUclips video explaining this principle. If you start it without it spinning, it will still swell but damage the bearing whereas you have to spin It for it to swell and push it to rotate.
+RyuDarragh I'm no expert but I agree. for the thermal explanation to work the bearing would need to be preloaded. the rollers are so small even if the localized heat was absurdly higher than then rest of the bearing but under the melting point and the rest of the ball fell back to room temperature instantaneously as it was rolling you'd still be measuring the expansion in microns. these motors are still running as the bearings are failing. I could imagine a motor that did run on heat like this but it would need to be larger with either tapered roller bearings and an anti backlash device or bearings that are interference fit.
I don't think it has anything to do with heat. It is either the torque on the electrostatic dipoles of the balls in the field between the two charged outer rings (when the balls spin their dipole moment is slightly offset from the radial direction due to the charges requiring some finite amount of time to rearrange) or it is because of the magnetic forces between the currents through the balls and that through the outer ring. All of the theories can be proven easily by changing some parameters and doing some measurements on the system.
if the current is only used to heat the ball bearings, could another heat source be utilized? Say, a focused solar beam for example?
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#Roobert33 ....Is that an On - Off Switch or an A - B Switch? Why does it spin when the switch is in the Off position?? Is it because you have the wires hooked up in a short circuit or a loop? Thanks for your reply in advance. Please reply.
@@ElectricExperimentsRobert33 Yes, I did read the video description but it doesn't tell us if it's an On-Off switch or an A-B switch. In the video, it looks like you're switching from 6V to 230V back and forth....but I wasn't sure...that's why I asked. Thanks.
Bah - hit enter early - did you happen to record what it's top rpm was? Did you play with frequency at all of the voltage to see what effect it may have? I want to build one now. :)
Sam Johnson I have not used the conductive grease, it rotates dry. The speed is not performed by a rheostat, but it is the rotation of the motor that accelerates more and more, up to burn the bearings.
Hi. I noticed in this vid you kept switching the device on-and-off......on-and-off.....on-and-off. What would happen to it if you just kept the power on? Would it spin up so fast that it would fly apart or melt the bearings or something like that? Nice little demo though. :-) Thanxx for showing, -BoomBoxDeluxe.
"Electric Experiments" Roobert33 At first I thought it was a battery-powered, perpetual, self-sustaining system which simply needed to be "jump started" with a turn of the wheel. I thought that after the wheel started turning, it charged the battery that was supplying it with power. I was quite amazed.
"Electric Experiments" Roobert33 Would applying graphite as a lubricant help with bearing life?..I could well imagine the flywheel inertia being large enough to drive a small dc generator to try and reach a overunity state....Have you tried?
how long before the bearings are completely destroyed?
They last only a few minutes.
@@ElectricExperimentsRobert33 hahahaha I wonder how much heat that have generated.
@@ElectricExperimentsRobert33 Did you try to spray the bearings with cleaner and lubricant every once in a while? I have a Cylinder spray (pink color) by Nortek and is called Clean and Lube - I use it all times for my electric and electronic works - it is great for all electric works similar to this.
@@fifaham not sure how well thus would work. In essence the motor works by heating up the bearings at the point of contact by a few microns. It’s not a lot in the grand scheme of things but with the tolerances seen on bearings it’s a lot. Mix any kind of lubricant into it and it could possibly cool the bearings to a point that their efficiency is dramatically reduced or even cause it to stop working.
@@adampolson6938 Thank you - I see that cooling the bearings will oppose the purpose of movement.
I will also add that there is no such thing as a homopolar motor, or indeed a homopolar anything. Magnetic field lines are always closed loops.
Electromagnetism is where I felt in love with physics and now in Science in general. this is art to me!
Me as well!
Shit, home slice. Electrostatics will get you to fall in love with magic. Electromagnetism is so basic in comparison
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There are magnetic fields. This can not be argued for there is a current of moving electric charge. However, you could argue (wrongly I believe) that the motion of this motor is not due to electromagnetism but to thermal expansion of the ball bearings in the race.
This motor is based on magnetostriction. The ball bearings undergo a shape change as the electric current is passed through them. Since the ball bearings are in point contact with both inner and outer race of the ball bearing itself. The motor, once started by hand will allow this alternating shape-change to force the rotor to rotate. Eventually the steel balls hard and polished surfaces will degrade due electro-erosion and the point contacts will be reduced thereby resulting in slowing down and eventually coming to a stop. It’s a laboratory curiosity and has no use in the real world.
why not insulate the bearing from the shaft and induce the same current to the shaft itself using a contact the field would be the same and the bearings would not overheat due to the current passing thru the bearing assembly. but still it will have the same pos or neg potential. and it may eliminate the heat problem.
I should add a few points: First, I like it. It's a great demonstration of induction motors. Second, if you replaced the heavy copper mountings on either side of the rotor with two coils and passed a current through them instead, you would have something very similar to a regular 2-pole induction motor. No need to make the current go through the rotor spindle. Adding some shorted coils next to the main coils would produce the "shaded pole" effect and the motor would self start. I'll try it and post the video. Or you could do that yourself....
The bearings heat up. Because the connection is better on the bottom because of the weight of the rotor the heating/expansion is uneven which gives the rotation.
+Richard Harris Nope!
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The rotation is created by means of thermal expansion of the bearings as I said - more or less.
+Richard Harris more or less as well as I have said many times ;)
Sorry yes this is a well known mechanical effect.
Seems to be an induction motor. The current running through the bearings will most likely ruin them due to arcing between the race and balls.
what if you used journey bearings?
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Good and beautiful, but it would be preferable if you wrote some explanation for us, measuring the bearing, for example, how many amperes did it consume to rotate, and what were you doing with the switch, were you just disconnecting the electricity? And then you get it? . The video is very important, thanks
It is not the balls heating up and changing into an elliptical shape that causes rotation,as the balls being that shape would exert the same force in either direction that would cancel out any unidirectional force that caused rotation. The rotation is caused by the two magnetic fields produced around the inner and outer bearing races,and the opposite field being created in the balls. Depending on which way you spin it,determonds which half of the magnetic field in the ball is closest to the opposite field that is created in the rings of the bearing's. Grab yourself a compass,and place it near the bearings when the device is running.
+TinManPower Look into Faraday's Disc. I think you'll find it, and this video, very interesting.
+TinManPower from your explanation, do you think the size of the bearing would effect the rotational speed or torque. I mean would a larger bearing have more speed and torque???
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Its part of the infamous homopolar generator, however, you are only using the "motor" part of the principle. Tesla's version had both the generator and the motor functioning as one unit. Long story short, you would spin one disk with the magnetic field oriented in one direction, this would spin the electrons out from the center toward the periphery, the electrons were conducted via a conducting belt to the other disk, spinning the same direction, but the magnetic field was oriented in the opposite direction, causing the electrons to flow from the periphery toward the center, thus "motoring" the second disk, there you have a self exciting or self running dynamo electric generator.
Excellent video. Amazing how long that flywheel keeps the shaft spinning when power is disconnected.
electronicsNmore Many minutes.
Flywheels are very useful. I found a few at the dump, so I will be experimenting with different sizes on my 40W homemade crank generator with supercapacitor bank.
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I like it, I really like it. Since you're not using any magnet's you're no longer bound to their properties at high speeds. Now I want one, too
The spinning disc itself is a strong magnet
Good it rotates without any magnetic/electric field.what is the torque and speed it can generate?
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Very interesting. Does this motor produce a good amount of torque?
Enough to make it run for many minutes.
It's a single phase a.c. induction motor. The current in the rotor shaft and in the rotor itself is unimportant. The current on each side, going up from the connector to the bearing and down from the other bearing to the other connector creates a horizontal magnetic field tangential to the rotor. Eddy currents induced in the rotor cause the rotation. It will run either way.
Thank you for a good explanation.
Incorrect. This motor can also run off of DC. This motor works off of the thermal expansion of the balls in the bearing. www.physics.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/motor.pdf
Try making it work with a flame, like a welding torch, to heat the bearings. It won't.
OK Then where are the coils?
I'm sorry? did you even read the article you linked?
it works based on a minute magnetic force from two contacting conductors.
is there a reason why you dont let it ,ax out its rpm ? its frustrating to watch
Brilliant video. Never thought that this was possible
Its works on Induction motor Principle
@@shivaprabhu3204 This is not an induction motor.
I built one of these motors with a 1000 lb pull magnet and when I put power to it it does not move. I am stumped?
You have to spin the disc, to start
Interesting! I think this design has a very low torque output. There will be a magnetic field, but it is very weak since there is no coil, so you need to start it spinning, and a finger can slow it down.
Paul Sutter Yes ;)
+pds tech add gears for torque
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That's a beautiful motor. It appears that eddy currents are more useful than we think. Isn't that how the old electric wattmeter or energy meter (measuring kWh) works - a rotating disc of aluminium driven by a current-carrying coil? The drawback in this case is that the whole of the motor is electrified - hence the gloves, I would imagine. The amperage is also very high, and if the motor stalled for any reason then excessive heat would be generated. I would think that is the reason the low a.c. value of 6V is needed. It would be nice to measure the efficiency of the motor (i.e. mechanical power versus the input electrical power). It might be very low, frictional losses notwithstanding.
Electro this motor uses thermal expansion of the balls in the baring to run, it is extremely inefficient, but cool.
Mike oliver no, it's the magnetic fields produced that drive the motor. I don't fully understand it myself, but it's certainly not the balls. That would generate an equal force in both directions, thus producing no power.
Is the sound the bearings grinding? Did you take out lube from bearings for conductivity issues? Sounds like bearings are grinding to me...
This is the best motor/rotor I have ever seen!!
the rotation is caused by the bearings , the arc makes them grow , this distortion is complementary to the rotation
The distortion is tangential to the rotation. Complimentary described acute angles that add up to 90° which doesn't make sense.
Rýán Túçk oh bullshit wise ass, you are so full of crap, i got this statment from a book i own that was written by electrcal and mechanical engineers on exotic batteries and motors and how the fuck do you get off telling me the distortion is tangential to rotation? also com·ple·men·ta·ry
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combining in such a way as to enhance or emphasize the qualities of each other or another. so there you have it wise ass
also not all bearings do this witch eliminates the magnetic field theory
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Sounds like the bearings need some graphite lubrication on them.
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The main advantage of graphite is it can be a dry lubrication and does not drag as much on the bearings, having tried silicon grease and seen heat dry it out it can set like glue. WD40 for example increases in viscosity as it dries out and becomes like glue and can cause a lot of drag as it dries out. But Graphite behaves in a different way as it can be both wet or dry lubrication. Provided the graphite is not suspended in a silicone based liquid that is. I would suggest experimenting with various types of lubrication as I have tried many on my large house fan as it was prone to seize up or squeal at me due to heat from the motor.
Put an airline on each bearing this will keep the bearings cool, and use a graphite, copper Grease.
+Paul Trace You can mix up the semantics all you want, but what we have here in this video demonstration takes place on the macroscopic level
+Jeffrey314159 whatever that meant
@@anonymousknight2881 This a 'thermokinetic motors', nothing more.
I wanna see what happens when a bearing seizes with that mass turning at that RPM.
That would be fun. ;-)
lots of glowing metal, smoke, and sparks :D
as mentioned the contact patch on the balls expands as it heats up from current. No preload needed just the weight of the assembly on the balls is sufficient.
you video is beautiful, love the simple and clean idea you have .
6 Volt AC/DC? At 6 Volt What is Amp taken and what is the speed?
basically, moving charges produces magnetic field!!!
In my opinion, the flywheel is axially magnetized. Current can be either direct or alternating. When current flows through the two bearings supporting the shaft, the balls become conductive rods in the magnetic field and the balls are pushed in the same direction, so the shaft rotates. The direction of shaft rotation, with AC depends on the direction of the axial magnetic field of the flywheel, with DC depends on the direction of the current and the direction of the axial magnetic field of the flywheel.
This is very interesting. I get the feeling that the current going through the bearings may be where the rotation force is created, the ball bearings being charged, and reacting to the bearing races? With that in mind., I would like to try this without the center flywheel to see if it still rotates the shaft. All in all, it is pretty amazing.
Without flywheel it takes little couple ..
You came the closest to what I think is happening. Heat is the effect, magnetism is the cause. I was watching the mayan engine. It showed a magnet cut on a 45* angle on the N and S ends. Inbetween two parallel South sided facing magnets. The 45* angle magnet slid off rapidly to the side. If the 45* angle magnet was the ballbearing and the race and outer ring were the S facing magnets then, this is why the motor rotates. Not heat which would slow the motor down until it seizes. Car engines have starters, we used to crank cars over by hand.
If I recall a conductor handing current has a rotating magnetic field around it: Right hand rule/Left hand rule could this possibly be the effect of that rule of current flow thru a conductor?
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Cool. Have you measured the current? RPM? You left the power on for only a few seconds at a time. If powered for a while longer, will it continue to accelerate or does it stabilize at about the RPM shown in the video?
Philippe Jacquot Yes, makes sense.
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Whats up with the different layers in the wheel? Why the hole in the side of the wheel? Is that 6 volts DC you are putting in to it?
dont focus to the metal disk. its about ball bearing.
Hello And of what made the flywheel, he just planted on the shaft? I am referring to the solid shaft? And yet, it energizes you?
I love a kinetic flywheel! ive researched them a lot, Williams racing has a 16 minute that tells why and how they are so monumental! never seen a "ball bearing motor" before, also interesting! I will have something of this nature aboard my EV's later than sooner, but im making progress! great clip, look forward to more, thanks for posting!
Have you tried this with roller bearings? The greater surface area could make the bearings last longer(or get hotter), if they're as thick as the ball bearings. Unless the many angles of the ball is needed to create this magnetic effect, The one angle of the roller bearing should be enough. It's not a heat engine. It's magnetic energy produced by the high amps. If there's current, there's magnetic fields. 230v to 6v, 20a/6v=0.3r, 0.3r/230v=0.0013a The flywheel works just like a flywheel, torque is stored in it. Hear the bearings squeal while torquing up the flywheel?
I doubt it's bearing expansion.
yes, the heat creates the ball expansion in the bearings
because high current is technically simply passing through a conductor, there must be a magnetic field present. You pass current through a straight wire and the field will rotate at 90 degrees of course. the question is what makes the rotor spin lol. what is the created magnetic field in the shaft interacting with.. I have to assume lorentz force is working here and somehow either each bearing and each end of the shaft, or something else is creating a field as well.
Very nice build.
Bill
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What is that small shiny rectangular surface on the right inner side bearing support near the bottom?
Could that be a magnet/electromagnet?
This is nothing more than a Thermokinetic Motor. They were invented many years ago. They are not really Electric or Electromagentic motors at all. The AC or DC currrent is a convenient way to heat up the bearings to produce torque.
+Jeffrey314159 Yes ;)
Does it mean, that such a motor with smaller bearings should rotate faster?
More or less..
+Electric Experiments Roobert33 are they more powerful than dc or ac motors?
+SMOKER I think they are too unreliable...
This is an Induction motor Robert sir, the high voltage choke is inducing eddy current in the metal rotor 🙂.
I don't know how it's works
It's kind of hard to explain, if you have a basic understanding of electrical and thermal physics then you should be able to understand it. Look up a study paper or an article explaining how it works if you want to, they will probably go into more detail.
It's a homopolar motor
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Very nice, an interesting conversion from electrical to mechanical energy!
curious as to whether or not armature generates any power while spinning.
Put a motorcycle stator and charging system on one end of the shaft.
I doubt those bearing will hold very long with them running dry like that.
Jacobus Hough In fact, they only last a few minutes :)
Electric Experiments Roobert33 so why don't you apply some drops of oil to them?
RadimentriX Right question; the oil is an insulator and impedes the flow of current, therefore it rotates very little.
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hmm, too bad :< doesn't something like "conductive oil" or another conductive lubricant (with little resistance) exist yet?
RadimentriX Maybe the fat graphite is a conductor can be good, but I have not tried it
What does the right position of the switch do? And what is that noise?
I really dig this machine a lot. I've watched this presentation many times. I see great potential in using the stored energy within the system, which can be syphoned off that flywheel (which could be made much heavier... instead of 5 pounds, try 50 pounds) to make lots of electricity, some of which will power the device and keep it running... dare I say it, endlessly.
Try creating a vertical axis version, which will reduce the stress/wear on the ball bearings... and add an airing to the base of the shaft. An "airing" is a pair of magnets facing off to create an air cushion, i.e. no friction from metal to metal contact.
is it a form of tesla iron lag motor, its very basic and similar to this design, iron slightly magnetizes and holds a field till another pulse comes along and causes a force of rotation.
any time you short a electrical field you create a scalar torsion, maxwell /heavyside on Lorentz transormations
see col tom bearden, you can think in terms that this is the oppisit of a tesla coil
you can watch welding cable "Jump" from these forces
I knew about homopolar motors but this is more like where the earths magnetic field is
charged by the sun (not iron core thats just silly)
+Bill Russell why do people keep endorsing bearden? it's not hard to look refutations of his mathemathical rantings on google and find what appear to be solid refutations of his apparent nonsense talk. he's a true weirdo
scalar fields are a fact apart from bearden
you need to up your game, scalar shorting is exactly how a tesla coil works, we would not have high voltage spark plugs were it not for scalar sum shorting, same thing for magneto's were the magnetic moment is shorted as inductive field
and it is what propels a rail gun. dead short
of capacitive potential
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With switch vertical is the motor running down or stable? Ie is it pulling Amps from power supply all the time or is vertical off? Thanks again
With the wheel turning it creates its own electric field so keeps spinning .
Some electromagnetic circuit can be placed in base plate
Imaging this on a bike or 1 man vehicle. Pump up the RPMs in one direction, then use a lever to change the flywheels direction quick (like putting your car in gear) and ZOOM! Then you can charge it up every time you stop, or have some low amperage unit keeping it spinning as your go. I think it's so practical and could easily be implemented in a gas combustion system as to not disturb the powers that be.
How much electric current this consume? Wouldn't that damage the power supply? Or are you using a power resistor in series with the power source?
Very cool video. It's sad that some who have knowledge try to deter those who are seeking. Not every one can go to college or wrap they heads around formula and equation, but I tell you many who invent and improve the quality of life were not scholars at first but just curious minds. Anyone with a brain can understand that in a "breeze" bro!
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Is this AC or DC current? Does it matte which end is the positie and which end is the negative charge?
***** You do not need the rectifier, it also rotates without.
It is AC.
The flywheel is likely made of "soft iron" (easily magnetized and demagnetized). The alternating current magnetizes the iron, which then interacts with the field from the circuit. This also applies to your other video with the washing machine motor.
Alternating current does not magnetize... Direct current magnetizes...
Landotter1 Actually alternating current does magnetize. This is how the principle of induction works. The difference between an AC magnetic field and a DC magnetic field is that the AC magnetic field's poles are oscillating at the frequency of the signal, whereas the DC magnetic field's poles do not oscillate at all.
Landotter1
Explain how a an AC solenoid works then?
AC can magnetize.
your explanation doesnt explain why this wotor works with DC currents.
AC DEMAGNRTIZES not magnetizes. DC magnetizes iron
Of what material are the flywheel and conductor axis made?
Sigh. If only people could *see* electric and magnetic fields these things would be mundane and obvious. No magic, just physics.
Certainly that is physical.
if only we could get half the fat kids off the couch to even try this mundane and obvious physics, life would be a thousand times better.
besides, I don't think baking brownies is that much more magical, still doesn't stop me from making them. ^^
To be clear the contact at the bearing is still engaged to the input current from the source you just add the field to the shaft too while the insulator on the bearing ID prevents the arcing.
The Motorless Motor!
Anything that generates kinetic activity can be called a motor
What about it, Kyle?
Not exactly, Jeff. Our muscles do that but they're not motors. The wind does that but it's not a motor. Gravity, a lot of things.
without bearings or brushes with the axes of the tips, it's works?
ball bearing motor, swells the ball bearings to push the rotor through high current.
+Gareth Compton Nope!
Correct me if I am wrong, high current (little to no resistance) draws a whole lot of current to the motor, especially if it is metal. Also the efficiency would matter as well because that determines how much heat (aka swelling) occurs to the bearings. There is a RUclips video explaining this principle. If you start it without it spinning, it will still swell but damage the bearing whereas you have to spin It for it to swell and push it to rotate.
+RyuDarragh I'm no expert but I agree. for the thermal explanation to work the bearing would need to be preloaded. the rollers are so small even if the localized heat was absurdly higher than then rest of the bearing but under the melting point and the rest of the ball fell back to room temperature instantaneously as it was rolling you'd still be measuring the expansion in microns. these motors are still running as the bearings are failing. I could imagine a motor that did run on heat like this but it would need to be larger with either tapered roller bearings and an anti backlash device or bearings that are interference fit.
your explanation made my balls swell too. NO HOMOpolar motor
no wonder i feel anally raped paying my bills
Do you think it uses the earths magnetic field in any way, like rotate the device does it speed or slow?
Bearing torture!
Dead short on the power supply.
What about them?
De que está hecho el disco? Magnetico?
Called a homopolar motor.
i wonder if this would work with fresh shielded bearings
probably too much friction?
Bello! Il motore a corto circuito
I don't think it has anything to do with heat. It is either the torque on the electrostatic dipoles of the balls in the field between the two charged outer rings (when the balls spin their dipole moment is slightly offset from the radial direction due to the charges requiring some finite amount of time to rearrange) or it is because of the magnetic forces between the currents through the balls and that through the outer ring. All of the theories can be proven easily by changing some parameters and doing some measurements on the system.
Hi very interested to know how its made , is there an armature , magnet within the wheel??
No, not magnet inside :)
Any info on how this motor works? Or how a motor of this tyype is called so I can read up on it?
Faraday disk?
Does this also mean that if heat conducted properly from the bearings during the inception of the motion then the motor shouldn't work?
if the current is only used to heat the ball bearings, could another heat source be utilized? Say, a focused solar beam for example?
#Roobert33 ....Is that an On - Off Switch or an A - B Switch? Why does it spin when the switch is in the Off position?? Is it because you have the wires hooked up in a short circuit or a loop? Thanks for your reply in advance. Please reply.
did you read the video description?
@@ElectricExperimentsRobert33 Yes, I did read the video description but it doesn't tell us if it's an On-Off switch or an A-B switch. In the video, it looks like you're switching from 6V to 230V back and forth....but I wasn't sure...that's why I asked. Thanks.
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So the bearing beads heat up due to the high current and that causes the rotation?
Bah - hit enter early - did you happen to record what it's top rpm was? Did you play with frequency at all of the voltage to see what effect it may have? I want to build one now. :)
Did you use conductive grease in the bearing? Not bad for 6vdc output. Is that a rheostat or potentiometer, speed control? Thanks, nice build.
Sam Johnson I have not used the conductive grease, it rotates dry. The speed is not performed by a rheostat, but it is the rotation of the motor that accelerates more and more, up to burn the bearings.
Thanks.
Could you give out the materials are involve in this project
Hi. I noticed in this vid you kept switching the device on-and-off......on-and-off.....on-and-off.
What would happen to it if you just kept the power on?
Would it spin up so fast that it would fly apart or melt the bearings or something like that?
Nice little demo though. :-)
Thanxx for showing,
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How fast will that go if you just left the switch on?
👍🏼what is the current at 6volt?
If Magnetic or air bearing.. May the can charge current carry
Connect continue circuit or is cut ?
No, it is not possible with this experiment.
have u tried to work with faraday's homopolar generator all u would need is two disc magnets and different contacts
did you glue those bearings t the shaft
Ok nice. what the materials you used?
What is powering the motor? What would be a typical application for this type of motor?
It is powered by 6 volts AC. This type of experiment has no application in the electric field.
"Electric Experiments" Roobert33 At first I thought it was a battery-powered, perpetual, self-sustaining system which simply needed to be "jump started" with a turn of the wheel. I thought that after the wheel started turning, it charged the battery that was supplying it with power. I was quite amazed.
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Would applying graphite as a lubricant help with bearing life?..I could well imagine the flywheel inertia being large enough to drive a small dc generator to try and reach a overunity state....Have you tried?
Jeffrey Harris light duty fan.
Can this motor work with ball bearings cover or should I remove the cover of ball bearings before making it?