DEBATE: Where Did It Go Wrong For England? | EURO 2024 Final
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In this episode, we roundup the Euro's 2024 final that just took place between Spain & England in which Spain ran out 2-1 victors!
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The irony in not playing Trent over Walker because of his defensive ability, and then Walker being at fault for both goals whilst contributing nothing going forward. Gareth Bin Southgate. justice for TAA
Facts. Walker is cooked
Literally what I’ve been saying, Walker defenceively has been horrific this whole tournament whilst also contributing nothing in attack, you might as well play Trent who will at least offer something offensively.
he’s played walker because he fits in the formation he’s not going to play trent as a centre back is he. the only player that trent would be able to replace is saka on the right and with how good he played against netherlands southgate had no reason to drop him.
Justice for Trent and palmer
@@rbridg3nRight Back in a back 4 like he does for Liverpool?! "but but he cant defend" did you watch Walker in the final? lmaoooo Marc Cucurella was told he was a liability only to get the assist in the final.
Crazy how they have a “Luis Fonte” shirt in the studio and they get beat by Luis De la Fuente 😂😂😂😂🙂↔️
Only Ogs remember how Luis Fonte came up
@@abdikanilaaska7445 facts
@@abdikanilaaska7445how did it come up?
England created less xG over the entire tournament than Croatia who went out in the group stages, just keep that in mind.
That's crazy
That’s Mad 😂😂
Most of their xG came from Trent who barely played aswell
what is xG
@@Global_Dawah1 expected goals
Just deep it, fuad on his 47 years on earth has never seen his club or country win a major trophy 😭😭
47?
@@Deathmare235 black dont crack
Netherlands in 1988 euros
Neither has any English fans loooool
Nah where is Fuizzy?! He needs to come outside after all that Southgate talk last episode
That’s when I knew England would lose. Tht fraud was too loudddd😂😂😂😂😂
I swrrr guys were talking tooo much last episode
guy has no clue what he’s talking about, definition of a clown
Can’t talk bad about Saka in a England shirt, he’s been Englands most consistent performer last 3 tournaments taking over from Sterling
Football often divides opinion - but everyone is united to hail Spain's Euro 2024 success as fully deserved! And they did it the hard way, beating every other European nation who have ever won a World Cup - Italy, Germany, France and England, plus beaten 2018 finalists Croatia - on the way to glory in Berlin.
1. Starting Foden over Gordon.
2. Starting Walker/Trippier over Trent.
Simple.
The cucurella assist was brazy
Sharky said it last episode “maybe England just aren’t as good of a footballing nation as we all think” 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
That is Sharky`s best take of all time.
The one time he played Jude next to Rice, Jude looked his best and he got an assist. Shame we only saw it in the last 30 mins of the tournament.
Watching Nico and Yamal was just special man, Madrid can get whoever they want but if Barca reunite those 2 then they’ll always have a chance.
This. People talk about Jude playing as the 10 at Madrid but the system was built around him to succeed there. England doesn’t have the system to support him as the 10. He can use his defensive abilities better playing deeper next to Rice. Let someone more creative and technical play the 10 like Palmer or Foden.
@@oyunboldboldbaatar5519He did not play as a 10 for Madrid, he was the focal point of the attack, the two Brazilians were on either side of him. If you want to call it a position it was a false 9 type role. Funny thing is Southgate thought he played in a 10 as well, he should have done some research and should have known there was no striker in front of him
Early morning SDS wow. What a time to be alive
You lot said Southgate was a genius. I hope you see how useless of a manager he is.
Real shiii
2 finals m8
@@itsamejcand 0 trophies 🤡
The entire players aren’t good enough. English players are t technically good enough. Specifically in midfield. They were properly outplayed by the Spanish. Zubimendi who plays for “small club” Real Sociedad and was subbed in for Rodri, walked 100 million pound Declan rice all over the 2nd half.
@@cl312how?? Especially the ones that play under pep they need to be tactically sound or he will sell them lol.
Never thought I would see a united and spurs fan defending an arsenal player from an arsenal fan 😂
It’s an arsenal fan, they have so much hate they end up hating their own
@@Deathmare235 that fool does not represent my club
Not starting Palmer how about that
That guy is not appreciated enough esp in sds…he has the most creativity in that squad
Palmer is quite good. I actually think he could maybe go down as the best of the 3 (him, Foden, Saka), maybe not Foden but definitely Saka. He’s the best passer/play maker of the 3 and he’s got the shooting ability. I actually think he’s a better player than Saka ability wise but he’s only done it for one season so I won’t get too crazy. If he keeps it up he’s gonna be an all-time great
@@victorkpomalefe244 yeah they’re mainly arsenal fans so I guess that’s why they don’t appreciate him
Not giving Gordon a proper chance I think is also just as bad
@@MM-jc7uv after that euros palmer can be over Foden because Foden never had a moment all tournament, and if palmer can do it whose an ex city player. Foden has no excuse I’m sorry. Foden in the final was so bad. Palmer showed up semis and final. We can go there (palmer>Foden)
Why am I not hearing enough on Foden? Mans ghosted majority of the tournament and was getting shown the most favor and leniency. Everytime he’s off the pitch England look way more scary.
You know you're waffling when even Fuad is defending Saka. Saka is the modern day Sterling, consistently delivering performances in all tournaments whilst other superstars drops stinkers but they get scapegoated because they aren't "Flashy" or have "X-factor".
He was the worse player today tbf. one of the worse
@@Nahanoo The conversation wasn't just about today's game. Even if it was, Saka has easily been one of the better players in the entire campaign which has been the case since he was first called up.
And he still created our only goal@cole8957
@@why_so_sirius yes because the rest are pants and everyone is pants because of the manager. He’s a 4/10 in a team of 3s and below but that doesn’t make him good tie tourney. He was bad, like the rest but not the worst
@@LiamPowelluuu2 palmer created that goal. That Saka pre assist doesn’t create a long shot moment of genius
the silence when the video started!🤣
Now they decide to look at negatives, last episode was pissing me off lowkey
Ofc the difference is that they lost what did u expect
@@therealhb1763 I wanted to England to win tbf but doesn’t excuse how mid they’ve been
@@therealhb1763Every comment you left under this video has been more idiotic than the last ones
Funniest thing is Morata scored the first of the 15 goals Spain scored this entire tournament
Top episode!
I hate the narrative that pragmatic teams win trophies, sure Portugal did it. Every other major trophy winning team I can remember in recent history has played good football.
1. France when they won a trophy (not in the recent finals) had high scoring games 4-2 Croatia, 4-3 Argentina.
2. Italy in Euro went 40 something games unbeaten.
3. Argentina played some amount of sexy football.
4. Spain speak for themselves.
Unless you want to go back to old Italy teams, I don't know where the fuck this idea came from and why we(Gareth) cling to it so hard. Just play the goddamn game
Facts people speak on italys last euros like they were playing bad… the only game they genuinely struggled was Spain
Pragmatic and playing bad aint the same.France and Italy played pragmatic but they still won they just played defensively which is very awful to watch.
@@primevanchis France have had their history rewritten somehow, about how they are a defensive team. But when they actually won the world cup, they had pogba, greizmann and mbappe playing and combining to play very well. Only after Pogba dropped out, have they been defensive, and haven't won anything since.
Italy were stingy in the final, but their midfield at the time and wingers controlled the game and just didn't fall back. So while I agree with your words, there aren't enough examples of it working in the modern times.
Man said Argentina and sexy and I'm french and I want Delchamp out not good enough
Unbeaten run doesn’t min you’re not pragmatic and France were very pragmatic. They just had better players
Not starting palmer after the season he had and the way with the rest of attackers were playing is disgraceful
“it will come home” that’s crazy to believe that. after this euros performance 😭
With this squad, as soon as Garrett leaves they will run over Europe I reckon. They have too much talent
@@Nahanoo😂😂😂😂😂
@@trvpkho1046 oh damn lol. When?
@@trvpkho1046 That's three days ago after this performance I'm not so sure
That much talent to run over Europe yet the guy stood on the touchline held them back? Lol the level of talent you thknk they have, me or uou could manage them and theyd win. @cole8957
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Sharkys tapped one day doesn’t care about England one day cares about England
This euros i realized how well protected Foden is. Nowhere near the level of scrutiny that other players get, that too for playing better than him (i.e Saka, Bellingham etc)
How he started over Palmer for the last two games is hilarious.
The English didn't expect spain to be this good because the media has tricked you into thinking England are favorites again. I can guarantee you majority of english media hasn't watched a minute of Nico before this tourney. Stop being naive and ignorant into thinking football revolves around England then maybe you won't be shocked when you lose or that other teams are better
Now just being stupid everyone knew spain brilliant and prefromaces
@@therealhb1763ah wsh frérot
you are making it disgusting how much u praising premier league players and ignoring Madrids n Barcelone.. why u forgetting what vini n Jude do all the season while judging on one tournament that no one enjoy
Another great show. You guys make it fun and informative to watch. Helps me through the day. Love it.
good content guys, I like how nobody is screaming over each other but just talking straight ball. your channel is doing it right!
Sorry, but Jude was England's best player last night how are we still blaming him
7:20 Abz voice
18:10 COLD
28:35 Hmmmm
43:50-45:35 Saka segment
46:54 AYOO VIOLATION
You should do this “best moments of the vid” with every vid
Brilliant 😂
@@chrisjuinor4148 i appriciate it, I've done it in previous vids
Rin's opinion on Saka makes me feel sick, how can you be an Arsenal fan and dislike him? I don't think he should be back on the pod until he finds some sense!
Singleling out Jude to my is brazy. He’s been your best player the whole tournament. Sure you could say Palmer was very good in the minutes he played, but he was an impact sub so I don’t count that as much. How Foden keeps getting out of these debates baffles my mind.
The way yall overhyped your squad. Arsenal fans said Saka is world class, said Mainoo is Seedorf, but when he ghosts in the final he is inexperienced 😂, That Jude guy is a moments player and his PR are pushing him for the Ballon Dor. Cucurella Locked up Saka😂. Palmer came in Clutch when others went hiding but he dont start. Kane is a fraud. Up tha Chels
Exactly. England don't have those kind of players. There is a reason not many English players win the ballondor. Stop over hyping your players so much. You might have the best league,but the best of the best players are not there. There in other leagues.
Who took two defenders out of the game for the Palmer goal? But yeah Saka was locked up 😂
Palmer has played 4 finals and scored 3 goals and this goals where the only goals for his team in 3 of those finals and the most mindblowing fact is that he didn’t start in each of those finals and played few minutes…he is underrated esp in sds just cos he is not Arsenal player and he is a Chelsea player…he can’t even start for England yet he has the highest G/A in epl last season…he is the only creative player in the squad…if he has started Kane and the rest would have had more chances…England would have won
Abz was cooking this episode hit dat bih on da head
28:26 morata literally scored spain’s first goal of the tournament lol
20:19 I did 😌. To be honest they were good throughout 2023 but what moved me was the last few games before the tournament. Also, there is an art to squad selection that people don't talk about cos like having a squad where there isn't a big drop off in many positions is an underrated advantage. They had that advantage in the whole defence (plus goalie), midfield bar rodri and in CF. Italy had that too in 2021. If you really focused on them it was clear they would do well.
Yeah I agree with you. It was clear even before the tournament that Spain had the best fluidity and quality with the way they balled.
Also, one of the biggest problems that PL fans had, is that they heavily underestimated the Spanish squad. Well now they’ve etched themselves as one of the big favourites for the upcoming world cup.
Yall should be ashamed of yourselves… one of the first names yall slander is Bellingham when he continuously left everything on the pitch and bailed England out time and time again… meanwhile yall are real quite about Foden’s inability to show any sort of footballing ability….disgusting
Objectively, Bellingham got them through the group, and then kept them alive in the knockouts, should be the last player to get slandered but that's somehow become Foden, who offered absolutely nothing the entire tournament
Bellinham played poorly the entire tournament, what are you talking about.
He deserves slander for playing so poorly.
@@thetruth4654 this clearly tells me that you either had your eyes closed the entire time or you get your football information from social media… every idiot saying this is looking for a scapegoat that is not one of their beloved EPL players/ex players. Bellingham was the only one making things happen and if it wasn’t for him England wouldn’t have made it past the group stage.. honestly just put down your phone and go play fifa
The Jude narrative is CRAZZZYYYYY. Man are so blinded by other narratives. He’s been the most attacking threat, wants to attack, wants to drive, comes deep to collect from a gappy negative set up, covered for foden coming inside.
Most attacks, goals came from a play either Jude assisted/scored/started.
This England got this far BECAUSE of Jude. Yes his arrogance is crazy but rightly so. The same Rooney narrative when all he wanted to do was play attacking football. Jude identified our biggest issue, sat so deep, massive gaps from def mid att.
Greatest manager ever who hasn't won anything? nahhh man that stinks!
Well he is
@@therealhb1763he isn’t
@@therealhb1763statements like these are why England fails. He’s objectively not the greatest because he hasn’t won and even if he was he’s still not in the top 50 managers of the last 2 decades
Buzzing as a Scotland fan but it’s 100% on Southgate that u have not won anything with the abundance of talent u have. He has brought morale together but it’s not won you a trophy. U need an attack minded manager that will take risks and will make the big decisions.
Morata scored Spains opening goal v Croatia
We now need a top 10 Ballon D’Or Video/Top 10 players of 23/24. I’m curious about who you all think should win it. After that bring on Mastermind
morata got a goal against croatia btw
RIN needs more appearances he’s too funny man
Great episode from Abbz today
Great take from sharkz
Not playing Gordon on the left as carvajal was nowhere near tested for his pace. Foden being forced in which pushes Bellingham out of position, ruins the effectiveness of the team. Also Kane should not have stayed on as long as he did. As soon as he came off for Watkins, you can see the immediate panic as the CB’s have to watch for the in behind passes.
Carvajal has 15 years career winning everything, starting for Madrid for years, has 300-400+ games and played against the best players of the world including Mbappe and Neymar but yeah he’s « nowhere near testes for his pace » shut up man 😭😭 stick to the prem and save us
@@Nahanooeverytime he plays against a prem team they same the same thing. Not everything is a pace battle, the guys football iq and ability clears all English fbs
@@NahanooI hear it, people said the same for walker though. How he has much more experience than Nico & Lamine & that he’s played against better opposition which he has (mbappe/vinicius). Then proceeded to get the worst cooking of his career for 90 minutes by teenagers, it’s the unpredictability & rawness of youth
@@LTanthony-that’s because he aged much worse than Carvajal. He’s been a defensive liability all tournament tbh
@@gmae5342 he has aged worse & has been shit but it’s interesting because he won the treble just last season
That tennis comparison 🔝
The biggest problem of england is the same as france for this tournament, the coach…having to adjust and bringing other players in and take the players out who were not functioning like foden and kane
Y’all need to have the round table with everyone like last euro
Respect from Spain, great podcast.
The saka bit shows why England don't win nothing, if he's your most important player, dang, it's looking bleak in england, he's good but he ain't winning much as arsenal or England's starboy , kind of reminds me of Kane, great stats but doesn't have the x factor to win trophies, and that's England for you
20:24 howler Sharky. Spain definitely was high up on ppl brackets that ppl who actually rate systems, not names like Foden Kane etc
Chelsea won football today 💙💙😂😂
Nope barca did
I agree Chelsea did. Our players that they dont rate Enzo, Cucurella showed that our system is the issue at Chelsea not the quality of the players🙌
@@lorenzomunisami6083Madrid have 3 players in Spain squad.
Rene is actually right. England need a superstar! Ego!🌠
Coming into the tournament England had that in Bellingham, foden and kane based on there great season. But they underperformed this tournament. Most people who watch alot of spanish football knew spain have young talent like Yamal and nico but none of spains Forwards have had a season like those 3 English players I listed. So you can't say they don't have superstars. Spains talents are superstars and now it's there time to take over 😂
@@gino.d1204 But they didn't deliver. So did they really have it? The reason we rate legends is because they took centre stage, whoever England had didn't do that.
Switzerland and Austria looked great this tournament because they had a set system that played to their strengths. The Swiss probably would've been in this final if not for saka pulling that goal out of nowhere.
Please don’t have Ren on the podcast
Slandering Saka as an "Arsenal fan" given everything he's been through and everything he's done for us, hell aint big enough for you brother.
Let's blame Jude when foden imbalanced the whole team and was supposedly the best player in then prem ....abz talks kaka
English player's are more technically gifted yeah. However they lack creativity. That little dink pass that olmo played that led to the 2nd goal for Spain is a prime example of creativity and technical ability that sets them apart
Doesn't matter what England player plays you wouldn't win just overhype players.
The better team won. Simple.
Southgate is Englands greatest manager by circumstance of having the greatest English squad at his disposal. With the bracket and group stage luck that they’ve had, any decent manager would have won a trophy for England by now.
You don' t have a good Squad and You show It time after time WAKE UP😂
@@jalejandromartin7642 I’m Italian, the last thing I want to do is compliment England lmao
Be honest you knew this was coming if England lost
I just want everybody on here to watch the previous episode and come back.
18:10 - he is the point
I was expecting an 8-man line up again😅. I am disappointed Sharky😢
This kinda feels like an all timer episode more i deep it.. Proper lads great performance
Saka is not that guy man please. He’s a good player. A tier 2 player. Not a tier 1 one player. He’s the best Englishman cuz the rest are dread 😂
Jude Bellingham isn't a playmaker. Southgate played him out of position all tournament. That being said he didn't perform
I can’t fault Jude for how he played in the final or parts of the tournament. He’s a second striker/no. 10 being played in the left wing. It’s all in the coach and his system.
Obviously they’re not gonna talk on fodens performances, most protected player I’ve ever seen
saying kane shouldn’t be an automatic starter is so stupid. he’s a top 2 striker in the world who just came back from an amazing season scoring 44 goals shouldn’t be an automatic starter? the truth is southgate’s “system” was destined to fail. you can’t be building the team around players like foden when you have all timers such as saka, kane, jude, and trent.
i completely agree that harry kane has been horrible this tournament but this man is the best striker itw in my opinion, broke records for bayern this season, the way southgate sets up does not bring out his strengths or the rest of the teams strengths, i believe that kane can definitely be revitalised in a team where southgate isn’t the manager
Arsenal fan giving Saka shade. Is he tapped in the head?
Kane is a curse. Until he leaves England will never win anything! 😂
Honestly even if they hadn't made the mistakes they did, they'd have lost. Spain were just better by a long long way. This wasn't like the 2021 final.
Saka "best attacker"😂😂😂 palmer did more of the bench
That's wrong and saka has been the best
Foden 😂😂😂
Yall overhype your players you forget other players in other countries have legs. You don't have those kind of players. Accept that. There is a reason English players don't win the ballondor, jude ain't taking it with the performance he displayed in euros. You just have to accept and play to your strength. Your guys are not hims.
The RM PR team will make him win it
True, france 2018 world cup team was unstoppable.
I think that England didn’t play properly well against Spain in Euro 2024 , my reflection is that England should put Ollie Watkins from the start
PART TWOOO BABYYY
the moment english people stop overhyping everyone , they will win trophies. 1st step , sack your coach .
Needed a niko and chunkz appearance like last time 😂😂😂
Can England and their fans just retire the "Its coming home" slogan. Aint shit coming home but the players lol
Why are they not talking about how bad Foden is for England😭 He can’t play if Pep doesn’t hold his hand
Is there a video in the works following Enzo’s live?
This is wonderful 🤣🤣
My favourite BBC podcast
The issue with England going into these tournaments trying to play nice football instead of Southgate’s conservative approach is that when it comes down to it they will always be outclassed by certain teams that can play expansive football better. England would have had no chance against Germany in the final, same thing with Spain because the players on those teams are more technical, better coached, and more intelligent because they have been brought up in better football cultures and educations. It’s a systemic and cultural issue with England - passion and graft are valued higher than technicality and intelligence
Bellingham and Palmer were sick in that moment at least
Best team won, by a mile.
Heart wanted England to win but Spain far superior to us both on the night and throughout the whole month. Football won, said that if it wasn’t us I wanted Spain to win it weeks ago.
What went wrong was Southgate becoming our manager 8 years ago.
It’s crazy how people thought Rice is better than Rodri
It’s like trying to support Millwall. Isn’t the one.