Meatgrinder Continues - Russian Invasion of Ukraine
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Kings and Generals animated historical documentary series on modern warfare continues with another video on the Russian Invasion of Ukraine, as we continue covering Putin's invasion with the events of June of 2024, as we talk how about the stabilization of the front lines as well as the conflicting peace offerings and negotiations as the meatgrinder in Ukraine continues.
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The longer this goes on, the higher the chance of a world wide revolution will happen
IF SOUTH KOREA JOINS THE MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE…
…ITS LIKE THE WW2 ALLIES GETTING A SECOND UNITED KINGDOM AS ALLY
FLASH! This just in: Horus has invaded holy Terra with the traitor forces of the Chaos Legions. The loyal forces of the God-Emperor are gathering and the final battle to determine the fate of the Empire has started. We are currently awaiting an update from our news outlet, Wizards and Warriors, and are awaiting their report on the situation.
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If Putin says 160,000 new recruits have joined the Russian military, it's probably more like 60,000. Or even fewer. You can't trust literally anything the Kremlin says. Also, while 4,500 new Ukrainian troops trained by France may not sound like a lot, think of the quality of the troops. Ukrainian troops are 10x the quality of their Russian counterparts in every way imaginable. Their supplies, training, morale, etc. So really, it's like Ukraine has 45,000 new recruits instead of 4,500. Not to mention they will train others in what they've learned. Numbers can be deceptive.
Lol I got up to grab something out of the microwave when "gained ground towards New York, without context was like what??? XD
:DDD ye, it came to your homes already
BATTLE FOR BURGER TOWN CONFIRMED ! GET HYPE !
@@simonrobillardRamirez, defend Burger Town!
There is a New York at the front line in Ukraine :)
(also written as Niu-York)
I heard some stories that it was founded by some American immigrants in Ukraine, not sure about that rumor though.
The Niu York bit has been over played on RUclips
The thumbnail of Kim and Putin looks like a new netflix buddy comedy...
Solid meme
@@tech.noir83 Coming soon to ABC. Putin and Kim. What whacky hijinks will ensue?
Kim: “Pooty, I asked you to pick up your clothes.”
Putin: “Oh Kim, I don’t want to be Puttin you out!”
(Cue laugh track)
The Interview 2 - World War Boogaloo
@HasbaraBara you're a 2 week old account, simmer down and collect your rubles comrade
they want you to think about them as some funny-characters and not as depraved human beings they're
its so heartbreaking that in war ,people are nothing more than a resource.
i.e " the combat groups receive 1k-2k personal each month to compensate for their losses"
Not only in war
Not only in war. In a capitalist society, everything becomes a traded good. Humans in such system are called Human Ressources for a reason: they're just resources.
@@ttuliorancaoin all societies humans are resources.
@ttuliorancao ever heard of the term tanky and thw soviet union?
Also do we believe that the Russian keep loosing millions of men each month and still have the population?
have you guys considered doing video updates to the Sudanese and Myanmar civil war as well?
As a Myanmar person, I'd like that. But from a practical perspective, the video isn't likely to do well as those wars attracts relatively very little attention from viewers
They are biased and care only about what the people watch!
Media should cover every war and be unbiased!
They are just another western media cashing in on Ukraine war and death of innocents!
They show what gives them money and dont show other wars like Myanmar civil war, how Afghanistan was was taken by Taliban instantly after USA abandoned them, Sudan war, Vietnam war etc.
@kicokyaw1039 I get that, and I understand that a youtube channel is a business at the end of the day but I think it's always better to have more information out there on conflicts in general.
@@kicokyaw1039 i would watch it
Simons Warographics channel does alot about wars that arent covered (or only covered slightly) including Myanmar
In total, Ukraine is likely to have 9 patriot (ish) systems operational by next winter. If Germany sends a 4th system and the U.S 8 Israeli ones, this might double. But 9 is still three times more as last winter.
Also, if South Korea sends military aid - its impact is like the WW2 allies getting a second United Kingdom as ally. And more the North helping Russia.
South Korea will not support Ukraine. Support for Ukraine is violently opposed by leftists like the Democratic Party. They wonder why a small country does not follow the words of a huge country.
The North is like Italy, the South is like the UK.
Uhh, look everyone, we have another classic "If we just double our missiles they'll win!" boomer. Those Patriot systems are nothing but propaganda, they're not assisting in the war at all. Neither will the F-16 jets, because neither of these hold captured ground. Humans hold captured ground, and if the country is running out of fighting aged men then assuming that defensive systems being operated in the capital is going to change the war effort you're totally delusional.
lol you still dont get it? it's lost buddy, go back to sleep.
@@chezkelhui1010 Yeah indeed, the north is way better.
July is going to be a lot more intense
why
@@TheModeler99 theres an offensive brewing
@@ball3677 There's already a Russian offensive going at multiple places
Good viedeo, but at 12:45 some of the south korean flags are displayed as japanese flags
Yeah, I was confused by that
From Japan. In this year mobile AA missile launchers have disappeared one after another from the Kuril, Sakhalin, Nakhodka, etc. I dont know where they went, and I wonder what Putin asked NK to do
@@spartanez22 shut up russ bot
@@spartanez22no where close from being emptied, they are constantly replenished
@@spartanez22you created no discontent or doubt and didn't make anyone unsure of themselves you orc waste of space and skin .
@@VanBrokkostIt's Potemkin everything
Do you guys have the complete number of drones being killed?
Not of the small drones. The larger drones lost seems to be around 200+ on either side.
New york must not fall. hold strong
Surely it should have be called New New York?
About the name origin,
I first guessed that it was one of the Byzantine settlements named by Anglo mercenaries, but apparently it was Menonites (possibly from Jork, Germany) who named it: when Catherine the Great invited them to colonize the area when the Russian Empire conquered it (Wikipedia). History is weird.
@@johnfraire6931you left out the other possibility on the Wikipedia page, that it’s named after New York City.
@@MrKevinbutler11 Honestly don't know how I missed that, ty
"Also, historian Viktor Kovalov does not rule out the possibility of a joke."
@@johnfraire6931 Menonites had other name for their settlement. It's unclear who'd named the town that way; it could've been some foreign entrepreneur who had established a town-forming factory nearby, etc. (such wasn't an uncommon thing when Ukraine was under rule of the Russian Empire).
Sad reading that a lot of Nepali people are getting recruited and more or less sent to the front line with minimal training. This is why targeting their oil is a good think for the long run. That said it won’t surprise me if they don’t pay the PMCs
You need to survive to get paid I'm afraid
I watched a detailed breakdown of foreign volunteers in RAF recently. Only about 200 of them are serving. It doesn't matter
That picture of Kim presenting to Putin a framed portrait of him that looks like a tombstone is hilarious.
Remember when internet got shot down in Russia and Russian bots were gone for few hours? Good times
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@@spartanez22whatever you say ,orc.
@@Brolosolo80 cope, hohol
@@user-lc7mj9lq7n
>user
You make it too fucking easy.
@@KillerSpoon575 >r/NAFO user
You make it too fucking easy
Watching this with audio for the second or third time, I'm once again surprised just how much that changes the tone
For the algorithm.
much better 5-words comment, for algorithm :)
Your videos are always a highlight of my day. Keep it up!
I cant wait for the time when this war will be over and you guys could have all these episodes in one large video together for like 12 hours straight!
In like 2030 at this rate
@@firstpersonwinner7404yeah the war is already 2 and a half years long already time flies lets hope something good comes from those peace negotiations
A shame I can only offer my condolences for what happened to that children's hospital in Kyiv yesterday. Enough of this "escalation management" BS
Yes!
I voted for him but I seriously disagree with how Biden has handled this. The only good thing about all of this is how bad the Russian Army is. If it weren’t for that this would be a much darker chapter in history.
@@dynamicascension981Vote for Trump this time. We can always redeem our home.
@@marny3559 Trump has been simping for Putin since before he was president and called the invasion shrewd and a good move. He also made up excuses to obstruct aid to Ukraine when he was president. Your choice in November is between someone who's ineffective at helping Ukraine and someone who will actively help Putin.
@@marny3559 Vote Trump if you want the USA to be a puppet for Russia.
Does anyone think Kim is going to let anyone escape North Korea to fight against Ukraine?
Nope
Apperently NK will send troups. But who knows if first they will arrive, second if that will even happen, third how many of them will desert right as they are out of NK
NK citizens are even more propaganda-zombies than russians, and they "want to fith The West", as their prop. tells them, so i think there will be not a lot of persons who will try to escape, and i am 100% sure that if troops will be sent , they will clearly understand that families are still in NK , and in case of escaping families will be terorized
North Korea needs practice of the army personnel. This is very valuable for Kim. For their officers to have practice on the ground even considering losses. They would pay Russia to have this opportunity. It is where China is actually having absolutely no experience. So it is something for a boxer to have only gym experience and something else to have real ring fight experience. And this is the problem.... Russia is getting experience...
I've been so desperately waiting for this month's video, and just as expected man this channel never disappoints 10/10 for the excellent coverage 🎉
I thought I was going to head to bed... I guess I'll stay up another 17 minutes and 26 seconds
Slight error in an otherwise impressive video : the mirage 2000-5 we are going to send are purely air defence fighters, and are not capable of lunching storm shaddow/SCALP missils
But how difficult is it to modify them for CAS/SEAD capability
@@TribuneAquila hard to tell, the whole software is optimised for air to air, it should be possible but maybe not worth it considering the F16 is ground attack capable
Mirage 2000 can fire stormshadow they probs got mixed up with that
@@TribuneAquila completely impossible it doesn't have air to ground capability to begin with
@oliviermorlighem7374 That's incorrect. The French Air Force employs them for air-to-air missions with the Rafale fighters tasked with air-to-ground roles but that does not mean the Mirages cannot perform those missions. Indeed the Indian and Greek air forces employ their Mirages (which are very similar to the Dash 5 variant in question) for strike missions.
Please do a video on “the battle of the forest” or also called “the battle before the gates of Nürnberg” year 1502
Fascinating!
Thank you for keeping up with this
I'm just gonna say it. Niu york?
Perhaps a consequence of Ukraine's efforts to derussify place names or something.
@@E5rael American has an Odessa, so why not?
I first guessed that it was one of the Byzantine settlements named by Anglo mercenaries, but apparently it was Menonites (possibly from Jork, Germany) who named it: when Catherine the Great invited them to colonize the area when the Russian Empire conquered it (Wikipedia). History is weird.
Of course it's "New York". Both titles (New York City and Ukrainian New York town) are identical in Ukrainian ("Нью-Йорк")...
Thank you for your work
This reminds me of WW1, same tactics,same 100 meters of ground taken costs a lot of soldiers
Except WW1 didn't have omnipresent battlefield surveillance dozens of kilometers deep and guided ammunition.
Russia is doing the usual war of attrition tactic. Unfortunately for Russia, they can’t replace their losses like they did historically. They’ve been suffering a horrible demographic decline that’s made their population shrink even in peacetime and starved their country of able-bodied workers, to support their giant retired population, losing hundreds of thousands with countless more permanently disabled is going to hurt Russia.
Ukraine has also been suffering terrible demographic crisis, but that just means that any land Russia takes is only going to exacerbate their existing demographic crisis
Im sure this is WW3
@@LEFT4BASS You're brainwashed by western media
@@LEFT4BASSwestern population is in a steep decline. Bringing browns and blacks will only make it worse
at the end of the video, what exactly do the numbers inside the parentheses mean? Are they the losses last month, last 2 weeks, or what?
new losses since the last video, which was released a month ago.
I also wondered about this, thanks for the reply
@@KingsandGenerals Maybe write it in the video as well? I think a lot of people don't know what that means
It would be nice to see two graphs from your videos
Indeed with the loses in the month for Ukraine and Russia
And one either the Foren aid both countries got
So you can see the evolution in the battlefield
@@damac5136
Sorry for asking but what to you mean with not this evolution ?
Did you think I meant evaluation
Appreciate the videos. Most people i know pronounce HIMARS as high-mars, not He-mars.
I am guessing you are US American.
English is afaik the only language that pronounces "i" as "ai". It's because of the Great Vowel Shift 1400-1700, which changed a lot of vowels in English.
Some words still keep the pronunciation that other European languages have, like in "bill".
US English tends to use the "new" pronunciation a bit more often than say British English
@@Spacemongerr I am definitely American. I would not guarantee the US military thought about the shift in vowels in the previous centuries. They instead started using an acronym like a word and it stuck.
Super interesting though, and thanks for dropping knowledge.
This is pure insanity.
Title thumbnail- Fat-man and Robbing
Hey, Kings and Generals! Try the story of the Battle of Marawi in 2017! Thank you for my request!
Krotevych is a chief of staff of the NGU Brigade "Azov", batallion of similar name has long gone before 2022.
On an off-topic,is there a reason it is not possible to set higher resolution for the video on an Android tablet? I keep noticing that some videos have this issue on the platform
Should be in "advanced" tab of quality selection (if you don't see the pixel numbers next to resolution), otherwise I have no idea, video should be Full HD
You mean now they're brigade? They have recently finally pushed US government to remove restrictions of providing them with US-supplied weaponry...
Very interesting
12:40 are the Japanese flags meant to be Korean?
I've been saying for year on this channel to do video on Nui York since it's had fighting since 2016
Finally! much awaited video is here
Bro, where do you get the maps you edit? please help me
Love yall 🎉
Seems like stabilized is the word to describe June. A few marginal gains but no collapse, though the continued offensive in the south east is a concern.
For the glory of the Algorithim
Totally love Kings and Generals!
Question so did ukraine proposal is to give russia the territory it controls to russia except the nuclear plant or is it rerurn of russia controlled Ukraine territory
Ukraine is never giving any territory
8:19 thats because they are terribly expensive and impossible to move around and cost russia millions to replace, upgrade or repair
The biggest problems with the Russian peace proposal, as I understood it, isn't even the demand of territories, but their condition of Ukraine not joining NATO and limiting it's army by a massive degree, leaving them without any security guarantee for the future.
And Russia gaining control of land extremely rich in minerals and fertile land thats huge in grain production. They'll be fighting this war longer than the world wars went on for.
Yep, they have complete disbanding of UAF as a precondition for negotiations. How do you negotiate anything with no army?
Oh boy he has one other whacko in his corner.
Thank you very much for for taking your time to do these videos. I always look forward to them, even though the information is grim, still very useful.
Thank you for continuing to provide coverage of the war. As always, hopefully, the suffering there comes to an end soon.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️
As always another amazing video, thanks for this :) ❤😊
Love these updates and their specific and accurate information! Keep up the excellent work!
Another great and informative video, keep up the great work!
Thank you for doing these videos!
Niu York??
what’s the point of promising all this equipment when these nations aren’t even actually sending even a quarter of all the things they’ve promised. It’s like they’re just trying to appease the masses lol
You keep calling it an unprovoked invasion, but didn't Ukraine provoke it by divorcing Russia 3 decades ago, keeping the house next door, and having the audacity to eventually look at a different guy with a steady job and less of a history of spousal abuse?
Yes, this is sarcasm.
Only had to read that a couple times to notice the satire lol
Well, this won't be good
good content thanks.
Thanks for the video ❤
It was so sad when putin left his best friend kim😢
His boyfriend Kim you say?
By far the best youtuber in this genre!
Do one on house of the Dragon battles!
9:31 How is it perfectly solvable??? You guys just say this so bluntly without any explanation as if isn’t that easy.
Do we know how many people were killed / injured / captured on each side?
I don't think anyone knows that precisely and beyond any doubt
How you mix up Japan 🇯🇵 and South Korea 🇰🇷 flags at minute 12:40..
Russia attacked a child’s hospital this week😔
@@James-9999 I'm sure that will be in the next episode. K&G were clear when they started this series that it will be intentionally a couple weeks behind in order to improve the quality of information.
so did isreal
@@crazyirish209
Look at these 2 flags
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They also did 2 months ago when i was in ukraine. And i can tell u its always the case ive seen so much heartbreaking shit there
no one attacked russia tou silly goose. its russia who is attakcing and murdering children
New?
Are we already living in start of WW3? Things are escalating. Will we look back at history and say the Russian/Ukrainian war was the start of WW3?
Nope
CHILL, there has only been 2 world wars in HUMAN HISTORY (which is thousands of years old) many/multiple wars have happened after ww2, just because stuff is escalating and there are wars going on doesn’t mean this is WW3, many countries still are chilling and aren’t in war, which means this isn’t the start of ww3, why? Because a WORLD war is a WORLD war, just HOW many countries are currently at war when compared to the ones that AREN’T? The WWs had a great impact on history that I admit but just because multiple wars are happening doesn’t necessarily mean that ww3 is about to happen.
So chill out.
(Sorry if I sounded offensive btw
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13th July 2024 - 9:55pm
Hello
Your map has *Kosovo as a separate country which is a direct violation of the UN charter and security council resolution 1244 that confirms Kosovo and Metohia (autonomous province of Serbia) as part of Republic of Serbia. Please correct this violation of the international law.
104 nations would disagree with you since 2008.
Law is law no mater the numbers. But now that you are using the numbers it is less than a 100 today. Also the nations that represent around 70% of world population do not agree with this violation of international law.
@@pedjaimaja National sovereignty is mostly based on international recognition. If most of the world says Kosovo exists, then it does.
You are wrong. Example is Taiwan. There is a super power who is helping Taiwan run as independent country even though it is legally (by international law) a part of China. That same super power is since 1999 and aggression on Serbia supporting the separatists in *kosovo. The same principal is also used by another super power in Ukraine
And again the majority of the world does not recognize *kosovo. But if it was really about the majority than why is *kosovo not a part UN. Because it is about power . The power to do things even outside of the boundaries of the law
Is the UK not giving any aid to Ukraine?
Not sure,maybe the election stoped it?
It was sunak and his parliament that made the decision after all
Might need to vote it through again
Where do you think Storm Shadow missiles come from?
@@Jay-ho9io Storm Shadow. 😉
@@Jay-ho9iohe's talking about this June buddy
@@Jay-ho9ioand people call the French ones by the same name sometimes so not necessarily
A Peace Deal without the one sides from that War makes No Sense. 😂😂😂😂
Was hitler invided to kairo
@@sH-ed5yf Kairo was not to make Peace with the Axis or you will you say that there are making Plans for the World after Putin and his Russia?
Hi
would be nice to show a percentage of the total in matererial losses, these numbers lack context without being shown as a percentage of the whole supply
No one knows that number.
@@KingsandGenerals an estimate would still be better than nothing at all. Covertcabal looked at satelite images and estimated russian tank numbers
@@TheAndrew1987 I have seen that video. The work is good, but even the creator would probably be cautious with using it in this context.
Azov already a brigade.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen...
GUYS! am I late?.
Both italy and dutch are a "far" right government and they are still helping ukraine. good to see
Thank you for another update & to all the Ukrainian people stay strong & focused. I know in my heart you will win.
The fact that Russia is reinforcing almost the exact amount of average expected causalities is interesting. I wonder if they’re doing it on purpose.
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About the “peace summit” I’ve never seen a peace signed with only one of the parts involved in a conflict, except with a total defeat for the other, wich is clearly not the case.
That’s why many of the countries that were invited rejected invitation and some of who has agreed to go even canceled, case of Colombia for example, even it’s allies didn’t took serios the conference, Joe Biden sent his vicepresident, Mexico and Brazil said that their are in favor of peace, and the conference was clearly not calling for that, the countries coloured with light green are not supporting the declarations of the summit, they just asisted to it.
Why should you consider Russia? Russia under Putin is not a rational actor, there is no point in talking to Putin, Putin has fooled everyone, before the massive invasion in 2022, Putin said he would not invade Ukraine, so what now?
Putin is a reflection of Hitler.
Moreover, the countries that refused to attend the conference were not countries that were so important that even ordinary people might forget they existed.
@@lalo4723 Getting a bunch of countries together to talk about what they want from peace can still be important even if the aggressor is absent. It allows for clearer communication going forward.
@@damac5136 he knows a lot more than you
@damac5136 I can't convince you to not be a sheep bud haha. That's on you!
@@scottyd3138 Yeah, i don’t know why I still all try to change something on the comments of a war video that does nothing to call out for peace, glad to see there’s still some people with common sense.
I’m really disappointed of the course this channel took the last year, it was a great military history channel, now it seems like a nato propaganda channel for me, but it’s where the money is allocated, I just keep watching this Rusia invasion series to be updated of the situation on the front, taking nothing seriously the number of deaths and comments of the autor.
Excellent video as always
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I hope the US is not taken out of the list of countries who will be supporting Ukraine in the future. Considering Trump proudly declared he would let and even encourage ruZZia to "do whatever the hell they want" I am genuinely concerned about the US elections this year.
My friend, the whole world is concerned.
He will do whatever he wants with Democracy too, the biggest danger to Democracy and so many can't see it.
dont be . you do you .
The world and 90% of the United States agree.
K&G do you think it possible that developments in terms of russia hitting civilian targets such as the children's hospital in Kiev could swing further support to ukraine from currently neutral countries
Hard to predict. But it would probably increase the support of those who are already helping Ukraine.
Ah yes, a nation allying with a tyrannical autocratic dictatorship is a sure sign that they're the good guys. (sarcasm)
the map of Ukraine is not correct in your video, please change it
Why do you think so?
@@user-xe6sg2or8d Crimea has long been part of Russia
Israel update soon?
What will the update be? More war crimes committed by them?
@@charlesmiv38427october celebrations almost coming to an end 🎉
@charlesmiv3842 please remember that the other side are terrorists. It’s a bad guys vs bad guys war.
@@charlesmiv3842both sides are committing war crimes let’s not be blind.
Palestine update*
14:15 Indian is no longer neutral. They have made their choice.
what's their choice and how do we know?
@@sid6554 so you didn't see the Indian president hugging Putin. It was a couple days ago.
@@shaggycan A hug doesn't mean anything politically...
@sid6554 you can easily google Modi's remarks from his recent trip. As reported by Washington Post for example:
“India and Russia are walking shoulder-and-shoulder and infusing new energy into global prosperity,” Modi said in his speech. “Any mention of Russia reminds every Indian of an ally that has been with us through good times and bad, as a trusted friend of India.”
Russia needs a huge wave of immigration. India has way too many people to support. 2+2 = 4
Slight inaccuracy in the video at 2:53 Russia captured the canal microdistrict (there was a drone video of a flag raising), further proof being that the videos of the region getting shelled have paused. Love you guys a log!
That was after June 30 which is the scope of this video.
Это гойда
Finally the Italian government is getting their ass moving. As an Italian, even one that didn't vote for the current one, I can't be anything but happy.
Italy was sending what equipment we could spare since 2022, but the Italian government was the only one in Europe that wanted to keep it secret.
@@damac5136 Italy is sending weapons that were produced years ago, sometimes duting the Cold War and are no longer in active service. Supporting Ukraine is not costing one cent.
@@damac5136 Value that has already been paid years, if not decades ago. And if we don't send those weapons to Ukraine, then we will have to spend even more money to dismantle them eventually. And you really have no idea how NATO works if you think that membership has to be paid somehow. NATO is a defensive alliance, it means that nations that are attacked will be helped by the others and nations will host allied soldiers, period. At worst you have to build some bases to house the Americans, but even then you have to account that said bases are needed anyway for defending the country, the only difference is that they will be manned by Italian soldiers, and that those bases are actually a source of income for the locals since the Americans stationed there are also clients for local bussinesses.
Talking about "having to pay", Italy and other NATO members had agreed to increase the defense budget to 2% of the GDP many years ago, yet never actually did it. Until 2022 all governments were content to keep the level below 1%. NATO couldn't tell us to spend more money in the military, it was Russia and their invasion that actually convinced the politiciians to really do that.
@@AR-pm6mxThe SAMP/T mentioned in this video was introduced in 2010.
@damac5136 Keeping the battle in Ukraine rather than let the Russians win and invade NATO isn't sending money in the shitter. It's an investement.
14:44 you underestimate how stubborn fools can be
One thing that I find funny is they made a peace summit, but not invited that one country that is NEEDED for peace to be achieved. So what was the purpose of this summit? Just to show people that they are doing something?
Was hitler invided to Kairo when the allies discussed peace?
@@sH-ed5yfthe difference is that the allies were actually winning and Ukraine isn’t winning
@@specter1549 so a russian bot cheering for its armies crimes.
Nice one.
So how do you win by taking 1 km in one mounth and loosing 10.000 troops in the process.
And what do you win. Basicly destroyed and depopulated areas with no economy or citizens.
Putin is truly the King of the ashes
In case you have not noticed Ukraine's strength (and therefor bargaining strength) is very much reliant on it's supporters.
So it's a very good idea to figure out your position and strength with your supporters BEFORE you start negotiating with your opponent.
Also Russia's demands to even start negotiating are absolutely bonkers, so don't get your hopes up for a political solution any time soon :/
@@damac5136 The west position is to support Ukraine and Ukraine's choices for any potential peace. As far as how reasonable those first demands were Russia had lost it's credibility by invading AFTER having negotiated and broken the Minsk 2 accord. So yea can't really blame Ukraine giving up more land for Putin's pinky promise to not take more in the future.