Hey guys! How is the audio coming out on your end? I walked past eriks computer and the green screen audio was awful, but it sounds fine on my phone and my editing program. What are you watching on, and how did it sound? Thanks!
Hay Suz. hope you and yours are doing okay. Audio seems fine. I watch on my PC w/headphones so I can adjust. Kinda crazy weather here in the Mitten. Always seems to rain on the weekends when I have stuff to do outside!
Looks like you guys would be good candidates for an accumulator behind the baler. That would expedite loading with the grapple. I used a New Holland Stack Wagon, but I could set up a whole stack in my hay shed.
You and I touched on this a bit, evidently the accumulator was too expensive?, it seems like it would definitely save Erik the collecting time, but I'm sure they're not cheap, the rest of the problems will pop up as soon as you start using the equipment, there's obviously no way to adjust ahead of time, didn't appear to go too bad, and Erik had many bundles accumulated, I'll be eagerly anticipating the next chapter, thanks for sharing Suzanne
Yeah we did find a used set-up for $8,000 which was a great buy, but still a bit more than we'd like to spend unless we expand our hay operation. And without a new barn, that's pretty tough! You are right, it is hard to exactly configure unless someone is out there collecting exactly as I start baling. What I perceive to be "tight enough" isn't always tight enough for the grapple. And I think the orange twine is stretchier than the blue which we prefer to use. I might switch over for second cut :)
Yeah that sounds pricy, maybe it isn't, been a while since I bought such things, I didn't realize there was such a difference in twine, that could be big, thanks Suzanne, hope everything works out!
Viewed 6-16-22 from Illinois Hey Sue, you are correct they are called HAY DOGS , holds the hay in the chamber while plunger move back for more hay. Make sure the dogs are free to move and the springs are NOT BROKE. On the pick up wheel.......spacer goes next to the wheel bearing race followed with a nut (make it tight) now put another nut on and LOCK the two nuts tight. Regarding raking: When your hay patch is THIN, while raking if you notice , you are leaving 2 mini windrows rows. Suggest you set the rake a little closer to leave one windrow. Any baler pickup will not pick clean small light windrows where as one heavier windrows it pick cleaner leaving LESS lost material on the ground or money left in the field. Bye :))))
Thankyou! The rake picks up 2.5 rows. I had originally set that day aside to adjust the rake, but the rain forced me to toss those plans aside and use it as it was :( That field I actually DID double rake, but you'll see that in the next video ;)
I bought a Scosche phone holder which had a suction cup base and I removed the suction cup mechanism and put a 3” wide magnet on the bottom. I’ve used it for several recent videos. I recorded over an hour on my Toro 5xi garden tractor but the vibration of the tractor made a flutter in the picture making the video not usable.
Years ago when we had cattle, Dad bought a hay conditioner that crushed the grass stalks with a couple of rollers to make it dry faster. If your mower doesn't have one incorporated in it, you might consider getting one.
your stop for the knotter clutch is a1/4 turn off, thats why it catchs. the bar on the pickup been cobbed up ,its should be longer with several holes and a bolt to set depth. your pickup wheel mount should be a shaft with a cotter pin to hold the wheel on. look them up on messicks, good luck
The reason why a push baler directly onto the wagon was better because there was some sense of organizing the stacks from the back of the wagon moving forward (if you had a good coworker) but the kick baler just made this big pile on the wagon, counting on the tractor driver to guess when to stop based on his estimation at to when he thought the back and side rails made of wood were close to breaking... and they did, causing more loss of time.
I read your response today. Your one of the few woman I have known that asks for a critique and accepts it for the content. The video was excellent and i should have said that. Could have also wrote we have something in common. One of my first jobs was bailing hay at age 13. I grew up on a 57 acre farm. We didn't grow crops. We leased the land to other farmers, boarded horses and raised beef cattle. Anyhow, hay was bailed then with kick baler and yes, that sucked. I would try to get work on a push baler wagon. Also, avoiding being inside the barn stacking the bails that came off the conveyor. It was also the first time I drank a beer. if you were thirsty, thats what the old timers had so if you wanted something to drink that was it.
Watching on my phone can hear just fine. I don't know how you find the time to make the videos. But I'm glad you do! Pumpkins just went in a couple of weeks ago here and I have trouble finding a few minutes just to watch! Good luck with the hay hope you got it in.
Great video Suzanne. Good job even with a couple of hiccups. That's just a part of farming. Take care and have a blessed day and I'll see you on your next video or on Facebook 😂😂
I don't know if you tried it yet ??? But sprinkling trace mineral over each layer of hay when you put it in the barn will cure it so it won't mold !!!!!!! 😊🌎👍🌞
jealous of Eric's hay trailer looks like it is working well.....bale curling is a function of your pressure setting it was obviously too low in this session but yes a chute helps with loose bales and grapples really hate loose bales....if you really get in a bind on weather and drying teddering will help get the clover out of your hay as it will fall down between the stubble and be lost obviously you lose overall volume ....our first year in over 10 where we havent had rain pressure here ....good luck the struggle is real
Suzzy----- The knotter clutch has no relation to the string tension coming out the twine box...The thing that determines bale length is the Star Wheel which is moved by the bale.. when in climbs the arm to the notch it.. the arm moves forward unlocks the clutch,,, for 1 revolution.... chances are the spring that pulls the arm back for it to drop down pulls up the stop on the bottom of the clutch that disengages the knotter drive ..... ever baler ever made operates on the same basic principle.... Now the Big bale balers tie 2 knots..... one as the needles go up and 1 as they return to home on the same stroke.....
You've gotten to know your way around the baler like it was a stroll through your woods. It's too bad you two have to do the work by yourselves, there is something to say about just depending on yourselves though, these days it's hard to get anyone to do anything. I have been stood up so many times just trying to get people to work on my house now that I can't do a whole lot anymore. I've been stood-up at least 6 times trying to get my soffets fixed and the one guy that did show up wanted to charge me an arm, a leg, and my next 3 grandkids. That did look like some nice hay though Waiting impatiently for the next video! Take care and hope you're staying cool!
Some years it does feel like I stroll through my baler more than the woods, hahaha! And yes, I understand on the house repair thing! Seems like no one cares to work anymore :(
I feel your pain with trying to get help. I do everything here by myself ,I use a Kuhn's AF 10 , drop10 bales at a time then use the grapple to load on the wagons I have 8 flat racks and a 28 ft gooseneck trailer, so can do around 1200 bales before I unload. I'm am fortunate to have a 14 high ,60ft x120 ft building to stack them in
I think I heard you say that the dew comes out of the ground. It comes from the air. You’ve done such a great job with the baler. That thing will live forever ♾
Yesthe dew comes from the air, but bales sitting on the ground will get plenty damp on the bottom from sitting on the ground , seems like they pull moisture from the ground Mine are wetter underneath then from the dew. When stacked on the wagon the next morning they dry out from the bales underneath
Loading hay or what ever is a whole lot easier now. When I was a kid in the middle 50's we used a hay hook and took the bundles off of the machine manually, one at a time and loaded the wagons and then did the same thing to get the bales into the hay loft. A lot of sweat, great food for lunch and a great nights sleep only to start it again after a fantastic breakfast in the morning. Mike
Oh for sure! I would imagine a pole barn to be a bit hotter than a wooden barn though, since wooden barns were built to be drafty for air flow ;D That was our biggest complaint about buying vacant land . . . no buildings built the old way :(
Yep I grew up with my grandpa running the farmall c stacking wagons. When he got too old I would run the tractor and jump on and off collecting bales/stacking on trailer. I still have the farmall out front of the house.
Beginning of June in Pennsylvania wouldn't stop raining, now it's so dry the fields are crunchy. Do you still like your 574? I just bought one yesterday and baked with it today I love second TYM now
Oh jeez! I hope your fields are staying strong enough for grazing at least! We just hit a drought too this summer, second cutting is due in one-two weeks but only 8" tall right now :(
The first hay is always rough with spring showers what ever happen with the accumlator you guys tested I think they would work hand in had with the grapple to help speed things up
We used to have a John Deere Square Bailer. It always worked pretty good. I think We tried to get about 40 pound bails with it, because We are not very strong, plus I had some back trouble.
Haven't even been able to start hay season here. Have you considered a hay preservative system for your baler? We have one, and it will allow you to bale sooner if rain is coming and your hay isn't quite dry.
Lots of people tried cutting after we cut, and the pop in rain no doubt wreaked havoc on them. We had talked back and forth about a treatment system, but after lots of online research, many horse customers won't buy preserved hay, and sometimes others have horses that refuse to eat it. So it's not a risk I'd like to take . . . if it was cows, now that'd be a different story ;D
You could cut some time by not handling bales twice. There is no reason to put the 10 bale group on the ground around the empty wagon. Put those bale groups directly on the wagon when you end the FIRST and Only lift of them. This way they will already be mobile when you are forced by the rain to gather what you can and run for the barn.
We tried it like that but when your using a accumagrapple it leaves alot of spaces inbetween the bales and stacking on the trailer doesnt work well and even harder to get them off. So what we found works best gather all the bales take off the dividers so you can push the bundles tight and then stack on the trailer.
@@ruralridez6165 we tried both ways .....normally now i stack direct from the field with the dividers in but we can be pretty precise stacking with a skid steer (5 high on wagon) ......we have enough room to pull wagons in barn if weather is bad or its late........the next morning when i unload them with the dividers out i will sit the pack on the ground and tighten it up before stacking in the barn...since you cant shed your wagon and wait a day there seems to be no reason not to do the changeover on the grapple in the field
Can't believe you only got 300 bales from 10 acres...did I hear that right? I just finished a 7 acre piece and got 750 bales. Every time I see that grapple I think it's crazy to push your bales all over the field but that's just me. How much are you getting for this horse hay this year?
Last year we only got 300 from all 18 acres first cutting. I think we got about 400 the 10 acre field this year. It's 2 years overdue for replanting, but between locating a seeder and seed out of stock it's been a disaster. We sold hay last year for 8.50, this years 1st cut is 7.50...
I look at today's technology, and sometimes wonder how we managed in the 70's. We had a bailer but collecting and stacking was manual, it was kind of co-op+, the families of different farms would help each other out in kind of a quid pro quo arrangement (best, unless you are the 12 to17 year old part of the quo), hire people from the state employment office/want adds (very unpredictable), or hire the from roaming groups of farm hands who would always tell you the last farmer/market price was a million billion dollars to collect a crop your size and they would defecate in the fields (huge mistake).
You know, when we first bought our property, we were happy to make enough to feed our own animals. But as we upgraded equipment, it became obvious that expanding our fields would benefit to justify that equipment, lol! Now we have the problem that we are out of expansion space, and the cost to build more storage would outweigh the benefits of more land. We would love to be able to put up 2,000 bales per cut. But that's why we switched into Christmas trees . . . there was a market opening and they require next to nothing for equipment ;D Good luck with your hay season this year :D
Easy fix for the black iron fall out of it's mount. Drill a small hole in the top of it probably a 5/16 diameter hole would be plenty big enough a put a bolt through it with a nut on the end of it tighten it up and presto rod can't go all the way through the mounting bracket and the problem is solved.
I finally got some hay done too in between all the rain. But, one square baler broke and a tractor keeps overheating lol. Puts me down to one tractor, it takes forever ha
2009 353 bought it new too. Believe it or not I've cut and baled literally about 10,000 squares with it and do all kinds of jobs with it. Some of it is on my channel
At 4:40 only one of those Stops on the side are opening. Is that how it should work? Dew does 'not come up out of the ground'. Perhaps I missed it, but when the grapple is full, why not put it directly on the trailer? Hook up problem? Get a chute made if dropping the bale is causing a problem. Too much tension? 60 lb + bales?
I'm not sure what's going on with the "stops", and that's why I took video. I will ahve to look more up online. I did notice on the top one had some work done on it, so it has been an issue prevously for the last guy ;) So, with the grapple, erik found it worked better to collect them on the ground. The guards come off and allow you to "tighten" the group for tight stacking. He used to stack right onto the trailer, but the stacks ended up falling over while driving, or proving tricky to grab back off and load into the barn. It does take a bit longer, but give much tighter stacks, and less falling ;D
@@This1LifeWeLive I was referring to the 2 small stops/doors on the SIDE of the bale box. Only 1 was opening. I am not sure what they do other than keep packed hay/straw back in their place after the plunger retreats. Thanks for explaining the Grapple stuff. Great trailer for you purposes.
Just started watching your videos after watching the trailer repar ones, Do yall have a Tedder? If not it would speed up your dry times alot! Also with the price of fertilizer and diesel I would not drop the price on bales at all, even down here in TX were raising prices this year to accommodate, we sure could use some of yalls rain though, we're coming up on time for 2nd cutting to be ready and the fields are terrible.
We are in the same boat now, lol. NO RAIN. My second cut should be in 2 weeks but grass is only 7-8" tall! Yes, we do have a tedder, but trying to save on fuel, lol!
Looked like I was going to get 3-4 days without rain, Saturday rolled around and got out cutting. Forecast changed and got rain the next night, before it had a chance to dry. Tedded the next day, was just about ready to rake, .2" rain that night. By the time it got dry enough to bale is was all brown. My NH273 needed new chains, so put a full set on, reel chain jumped the sprocket twice, then discovered I missed a washer behind a pulley, problem solved. 14 bales later, dead stop, broke shear bolt. Replaced it, seemed to be turning OK, started up, broke another shear bolt. Turned out the middle teeth on the feeder had missing springs, which caused on tooth to get stuck and hit by the ram, so replaced them out in the field. Issue free after that. At least I didn't break the PTO shaft on the first turn like I did with my 1209. Thats what I get for leaving the jack on and forgetting to move the drawbar out 14" like it was supposed to be. OOPS. Good thing I can weld.
ohhhhhhh maaaaannnnnn! Totally sucks! Our 273 was probably well on it's way to doing that same thing! The bale chamber was shot and the bearings totally ripping out (the knotters missing was just the start). This was before I began diving into equipment repair, but even now had all that stuff gone wrong I think Erik would probably light the baler on fire before he'd agree to let me fix it ;D And I've drug the jack stand MAAAAAAANY times, lol! Usually always the baler too!
@@This1LifeWeLive After looking everything over, it appears the knife didn't hit the tooth this time. The shear bolt that was installed was grade 2, and not an actual shear bolt, threads were too long. Heavy hay caused the bolt to shear. The tooth with the knife marks may have fallen off in the past by the previous owner and stuck back on. That was a relief. I did replace all chains before baling, missed a washer and had the reel chain jump twice before I figured it out, but the knotter worked perfectly every time and the baler ran smooth as silk once I put the correct shear bolt on the flywheel.
@@This1LifeWeLive Chains are the easiest part, just make sure nothing moves after the chain is off, and make sure to mark everything, and dont do like I did and not pay attention to the chain on pulley centers. . Take pictures of the pulleys and sprockets before taking it apart, and use the number of links per the parts manual. The timing chain will need links added as well as the flywheel side reel chain. 3 10' A2040 chain packs is all you need.
Got some advice if you want it sell your hay in the wintertime hay is hay top dollar for anything out there your customers always want spring hay right out of the field so you normally sell I promise you you will double your money works for me for 30 years now
We did that the first cutting a year ago, and found them to topple over. This is a collection AND grapple, but had spacers that need to be removed for bale pickup because it pulls them in tighter. We had two tall stacks fall over in the barn. Once we switched to collecting, then grabbing with the guards off, we were able to group them tighter and stack tighter :)
@@This1LifeWeLive Thank you for the reply. Do you think you could load the bales on the trailer with the guards on and then take them off when you unload the hay off the trailer and into the barn for tighter stacking? I know how much work it is to cut, rake, bale, haul and stack hay with only 2 people. Even in perfect conditions it should be outlawed. lol. Anyway, just trying to find a way to eliminate a step if possible without creating a new set of problems. You guys are definitely cut from the rock of Ol school. My highest respect to your entire family.
@@dustchip8060 yes you definitely can, but its a bit tougher getting them tight on the trailer, and depending on how far you gotta drive they might wiggle off. Honestly it's whatever you find easier 😉
Hey babe I just wanted to say there's no easy way to do hay . My dad custom baled from the fifty's into seventy's and I had hay truck and you couldn't find help back then . I've wore out three square balers ,four round balers ,and myself ! I'm just about 70 time will get you ! Just wanted to say hi I love you , and wish I could be there to help you out good luck sweetie Walt
Do you have Rim Guard in the rear tires of the TYM tractor and how are you liking the TYM I've been considering buying a TYM been watching the Stoney Ridge Farmer and seeing him use his TYM tractors they look like a good tractor and have a fair price I just worry about service after the sale the closest dealer is about 100 miles from my house.
Serivce is an issue with any tractor. Both my New Holland shops are 45 minutes away. I once rove my bailer out to them for repair . . . that was a terrible idea. Since then I learned how to repair it my self. The nice thing is if you have the Kukje motor you can make any repairs yourself, or have a local mechanic do it. It's old school build, none of the BS computer crap all the new ones use. I have the rear tires loaded, don't remember what it was but I did a video on it a while back :)
It's a New Holland T.5 115 . So far it's been good. The PTO live switch can be quirky and refuse to work at times, and the transmission seems to be slipping a bit, but I ahven't had to take her in to the mechanic yet ;D
now if they just had a kicker/wagon that would unload and stack them in the barn.....like a silly accumulator does with one man...silly thang will also unload the barn on to a customers trailer too.....
Here in mid Michigan, we also have humidity to contend with. If that bit of clover isn't perfectly dry, it WILL cause bales to mold later. I don't have to produce thousands of bales of hay to discover this. Only takes a handful ;) And customers who feed that hay to horses end up with coughing horses, and won't come back again. And the drier it is, hopefully the more it will shatter and end up on the field and NOT in my bales. That "little bit of clover" shot my hay sugar readings from 5% up to 9%.
I left it extra long on purpose and after talking to our local feed mill guy who also does hay. He said he finds it survives summer temps better when first cut is taller. Plus the lower to the ground is where the sugar is at in the grass. This is the tallest I ever did 1st cut, so we will see!
I'm in Central Ohio. I took a job in Grand Rapids 95-97. Loved it up there. I was offered a position to come back home to Ohio. I almost said no to the transfer, but happy I did. Good sound quality especially because you had little wind noise: however, Ladies listen up. The voice crackle in the middle of a sentence pronouncing words has been becoming common. It is not cute, it is not sexy and it is annoying to most men. Very annoying. I was on a blind date a couple months ago and EVERY word she spoke was with that voice crackle. I could only handle about 45 minutes of that and ended the date.
You'll have to give me a timestamp on the video . . . I'm not sure I know what you mean. If I'm outside, then it's 100% allergies and I'm fighting my vocal cords (I clear my throat every 5 minutes) and trying to talk loud enough for the mic to pick me up (I naturally talk quietly), if it's inside, I am still trying to talk loud enough for the mic to pick me up, but also more slowly, and clearly. Honestly I try to eliminate any crackles, not add them. I didn't speak a word for the first 12 years of my life because anytime I did, people would ask what's wrong with my voice.
Perfect advice! When all the old farmers die off there will be no one left to farm for no one should certainly set out to try to learn or be taught . . . While we are at it, lets close down trade school and colleges. heck, ban public schooling entirely. Learning is over-rated.
Hey guys! How is the audio coming out on your end? I walked past eriks computer and the green screen audio was awful, but it sounds fine on my phone and my editing program. What are you watching on, and how did it sound?
Thanks!
Hay Suz. hope you and yours are doing okay. Audio seems fine. I watch on my PC w/headphones so I can adjust. Kinda crazy weather here in the Mitten. Always seems to rain on the weekends when I have stuff to do outside!
I watched the first part on my phone before streaming it to my TV. I could hear it fine on both devices.
Sound was fine. Phone.
@@grosseileracingteam been crazy for sure!
Sounds good on my iPhone
My pop use to say, “Keep on keeping on till grandma starts crying.” You see, granny was in heaven and the rain was her tears. Y’all got this!
That's a very unique expression!
Good luck baling your hay Suzanne
I admire you ‘re determination and hubby’s . 👍👍👍
Great job picking bales Erik
I could listen to that voice all day long!
Oh my goodness your getting fancy now! You were just like a weather girl!
Hahaha! And I was even predicting the weather!
What about putting a thrower/ kicker on the baler? Get a couple wagons to pull behind. Would need 2 people to stack the hay in the shed
Our bale carts function like that. They ride behind the baler and the hay slides up a chute and down into them.
Looks like you guys would be good candidates for an accumulator behind the baler. That would expedite loading with the grapple. I used a New Holland Stack Wagon, but I could set up a whole stack in my hay shed.
We had seen a stack wagon for sale at a very reasonable price last year. But again, I don't know that our barn would accomodate such a creature :(
If You can get some Chicken Manure, it would perk it up really good.
I hope the weather helps you out and you can get done with the hay.
Prayers for good harvest
Thankyou!
You and I touched on this a bit, evidently the accumulator was too expensive?, it seems like it would definitely save Erik the collecting time, but I'm sure they're not cheap, the rest of the problems will pop up as soon as you start using the equipment, there's obviously no way to adjust ahead of time, didn't appear to go too bad, and Erik had many bundles accumulated, I'll be eagerly anticipating the next chapter, thanks for sharing Suzanne
Yeah we did find a used set-up for $8,000 which was a great buy, but still a bit more than we'd like to spend unless we expand our hay operation. And without a new barn, that's pretty tough!
You are right, it is hard to exactly configure unless someone is out there collecting exactly as I start baling. What I perceive to be "tight enough" isn't always tight enough for the grapple. And I think the orange twine is stretchier than the blue which we prefer to use. I might switch over for second cut :)
Yeah that sounds pricy, maybe it isn't, been a while since I bought such things, I didn't realize there was such a difference in twine, that could be big, thanks Suzanne, hope everything works out!
I miss snow ❄️
Sounds great Suzanne
Erik has gotten pretty good at using the grapple! Nice job!
Such an incredible amount of work, but the two of you persevere. Thanks for taking us along on your journey. I pray for your continued success!
Thankyou!
Viewed 6-16-22 from Illinois Hey Sue, you are correct they are called HAY DOGS , holds the hay in the chamber while plunger move back for more hay. Make sure the dogs are free to move and the springs are NOT BROKE. On the pick up wheel.......spacer goes next to the wheel bearing race followed with a nut (make it tight) now put another nut on and LOCK the two nuts tight.
Regarding raking: When your hay patch is THIN, while raking if you notice , you are leaving 2 mini windrows rows. Suggest you set the rake a little closer to leave one windrow. Any baler pickup
will not pick clean small light windrows where as one heavier windrows it pick cleaner leaving LESS lost material on the ground or money left in the field. Bye :))))
Thankyou! The rake picks up 2.5 rows. I had originally set that day aside to adjust the rake, but the rain forced me to toss those plans aside and use it as it was :( That field I actually DID double rake, but you'll see that in the next video ;)
@@This1LifeWeLive OK, just didn't want you to be loosing hay in the field !!!
Another great vid! Have fun and stay safe
I bought a Scosche phone holder which had a suction cup base and I removed the suction cup mechanism and put a 3” wide magnet on the bottom. I’ve used it for several recent videos. I recorded over an hour on my Toro 5xi garden tractor but the vibration of the tractor made a flutter in the picture making the video not usable.
The gopro does surprisingly well with flutter or vibration, but it's started slightly rocking back and forth, and that it does not handle well, lol!
Years ago when we had cattle, Dad bought a hay conditioner that crushed the grass stalks with a couple of rollers to make it dry faster. If your mower doesn't have one incorporated in it, you might consider getting one.
yes it has the rubber rollers but for grass hay I think the cutters with the metal beaters work better for drying.
A good way to test for moisture in alfalfa and clover is to scrape the stems with your fingernail. If the green isn't dry it's not ready.
Great video Suzanne
Thankyou!
your stop for the knotter clutch is a1/4 turn off, thats why it catchs. the bar on the pickup been cobbed up ,its should be longer with several holes and a bolt to set depth. your pickup wheel mount should be a shaft with a cotter pin to hold the wheel on. look them up on messicks, good luck
I'll double check the clutch system! As for the wheel and pickup bar, our old baler has parts that might fit, so I will give those a shot 😁
The reason why a push baler directly onto the wagon was better because there was some sense of organizing the stacks from the back of the wagon moving forward (if you had a good coworker) but the kick baler just made this big pile on the wagon, counting on the tractor driver to guess when to stop based on his estimation at to when he thought the back and side rails made of wood were close to breaking... and they did, causing more loss of time.
Everything worked out well on this video. You got a like 👍 from me. Thanks for sharing. Happy subscribers 😀.
Thanks Chrs!
I read your response today. Your one of the few woman I have known that asks for a critique and accepts it for the content. The video was excellent and i should have said that. Could have also wrote we have something in common. One of my first jobs was bailing hay at age 13. I grew up on a 57 acre farm. We didn't grow crops. We leased the land to other farmers, boarded horses and raised beef cattle. Anyhow, hay was bailed then with kick baler and yes, that sucked. I would try to get work on a push baler wagon. Also, avoiding being inside the barn stacking the bails that came off the conveyor. It was also the first time I drank a beer. if you were thirsty, thats what the old timers had so if you wanted something to drink that was it.
Sometimes advice isn't the best, but other times it is. Either way, you never get those golden nuggets unless you sift through the rocks first ;D
Watching on my phone can hear just fine. I don't know how you find the time to make the videos. But I'm glad you do! Pumpkins just went in a couple of weeks ago here and I have trouble finding a few minutes just to watch! Good luck with the hay hope you got it in.
I think my neighbor got his in too! It is tough, thats why I'm lucky to get 1 video out a week 😉
Great job Suzanne and Erik, thats real nice looking hay👌👍🙂
Thankyou!
Excellent
Wow, what a nerve-wracking time you have bailing your hay! I really hope all works out for you! You 2 are such hard workers! Blessings to you both.
ya its stressful when you know the rain is coming and your going as fast as you can and time keeps slipping away.
It was, but in the end you know it WILL get rained on, just trying to get most of it off and fingers crossed 🤞
Most of those square bailers have an adjustment to make the bail lighter if You want them lighter.
theirs no right and wrong when farming just get it done however u can!!
waiting on apples!!😂
lol
Out of 3 apple trees I only managed 3 apples, and all one one tree! I hope you fare better than me!
@@This1LifeWeLive no apples are hard to grow it takes a lot of patients!! As anything does!!
Hay up here souther VT ne ny.7.00 a bale off wagon.great hay year so far.45lb bale.unlike last year never stopped raining
Great video Suzanne. Good job even with a couple of hiccups. That's just a part of farming. Take care and have a blessed day and I'll see you on your next video or on Facebook 😂😂
Thankyou Billy!
Very nice video!
great video lovely lady .I hope all works out
Thank you!
It's pretty much a guarantee that it will rain when You cut Hay Here in North Carolina near Asheboro.
Ya we watch the weather very close it was suposed to be a 7 day stretch of no rain then out of the blue they change the forecast.
Great edits overlays angles! looks like you are continuing to grow as a creator!!!
I would do more, but it takes soooo much time, and I gotta get farmin ;D
Good job
I don't know if you tried it yet ???
But sprinkling trace mineral over each layer of hay when you put it in the barn will cure it so it won't mold !!!!!!! 😊🌎👍🌞
Actually, I need to grab some rock salt for second cut just on case! I ahve not tried it, but I think having it on hand would be a great asset!
@@This1LifeWeLive lose salt or lose trace minerals!!!
Yeah it's been pretty wet here in Michigan this year. This time last year we couldn't get a drop!
Oh I know, I'm trying not to complain ;D
My cousin in Ia. Raises hay at her farm besides pigs. I try to help her out when I can
I sometimes think you still have a child’s voice you’re so cute
Nice looking hay. Great job!
Thankyou!
Make yourself a 10 bale sled for the back of the baler out of one of the wages leave the bales in group of 10
jealous of Eric's hay trailer looks like it is working well.....bale curling is a function of your pressure setting it was obviously too low in this session but yes a chute helps with loose bales and grapples really hate loose bales....if you really get in a bind on weather and drying teddering will help get the clover out of your hay as it will fall down between the stubble and be lost obviously you lose overall volume ....our first year in over 10 where we havent had rain pressure here ....good luck the struggle is real
ya its been working great I think I have $900 into it wish we had another one.
Suzzy----- The knotter clutch has no relation to the string tension coming out the twine box...The thing that determines bale length is the Star Wheel which is moved by the bale.. when in climbs the arm to the notch it.. the arm moves forward unlocks the clutch,,, for 1 revolution.... chances are the spring that pulls the arm back for it to drop down pulls up the stop on the bottom of the clutch that disengages the knotter drive ..... ever baler ever made operates on the same basic principle.... Now the Big bale balers tie 2 knots..... one as the needles go up and 1 as they return to home on the same stroke.....
I will double check :)
You've gotten to know your way around the baler like it was a stroll through your woods. It's too bad you two have to do the work by yourselves, there is something to say about just depending on yourselves though, these days it's hard to get anyone to do anything. I have been stood up so many times just trying to get people to work on my house now that I can't do a whole lot anymore. I've been stood-up at least 6 times trying to get my soffets fixed and the one guy that did show up wanted to charge me an arm, a leg, and my next 3 grandkids.
That did look like some nice hay though
Waiting impatiently for the next video!
Take care and hope you're staying cool!
Some years it does feel like I stroll through my baler more than the woods, hahaha! And yes, I understand on the house repair thing! Seems like no one cares to work anymore :(
Ya minimum wage for part time high school kids is like $15/hr. I guess with the gas prices that is a fair wage. $6/gallon diesel is crazy.
I feel your pain with trying to get help. I do everything here by myself ,I use a Kuhn's AF 10 , drop10 bales at a time then use the grapple to load on the wagons I have 8 flat racks and a 28 ft gooseneck trailer, so can do around 1200 bales before I unload. I'm am fortunate to have a 14 high ,60ft x120 ft building to stack them in
Heck yeah, that definitely is the way to go 😄
I think I heard you say that the dew comes out of the ground. It comes from the air. You’ve done such a great job with the baler. That thing will live forever ♾
Yesthe dew comes from the air, but bales sitting on the ground will get plenty damp on the bottom from sitting on the ground , seems like they pull moisture from the ground
Mine are wetter underneath then from the dew.
When stacked on the wagon the next morning they dry out from the bales underneath
Yes, out of the air. Old habits of speech die hard ;D
Loading hay or what ever is a whole lot easier now. When I was a kid in the middle 50's we used a hay hook and took the bundles off of the machine manually, one at a time and loaded the wagons and then did the same thing to get the bales into the hay loft. A lot of sweat, great food for lunch and a great nights sleep only to start it again after a fantastic breakfast in the morning. Mike
Oh for sure! I would imagine a pole barn to be a bit hotter than a wooden barn though, since wooden barns were built to be drafty for air flow ;D That was our biggest complaint about buying vacant land . . . no buildings built the old way :(
Yep I grew up with my grandpa running the farmall c stacking wagons. When he got too old I would run the tractor and jump on and off collecting bales/stacking on trailer. I still have the farmall out front of the house.
you would have it done with more then yourself doing all the work with that itty bitty tractor 🤷♂️👍
Keep plugging along :D
Fantastic thumbnail! Guys love the vids....it's been so dry here in NC we're gonna have a hay shortage!! Thanks for the vids ...love them!
Beginning of June in Pennsylvania wouldn't stop raining, now it's so dry the fields are crunchy. Do you still like your 574? I just bought one yesterday and baked with it today I love second TYM now
Oh jeez! I hope your fields are staying strong enough for grazing at least! We just hit a drought too this summer, second cutting is due in one-two weeks but only 8" tall right now :(
The first hay is always rough with spring showers what ever happen with the accumlator you guys tested I think they would work hand in had with the grapple to help speed things up
We used to have a John Deere Square Bailer. It always worked pretty good. I think We tried to get about 40 pound bails with it, because We are not very strong, plus I had some back trouble.
Some people shoot for 90 lb bales, I cannot even imagine! I like 55lbs myself ;D
your bale chamber was a little rusty, that's bound to make a few heavy bales! I grew up with a NH compact 69 from 1969, your's is new compared!
Haven't even been able to start hay season here. Have you considered a hay preservative system for your baler? We have one, and it will allow you to bale sooner if rain is coming and your hay isn't quite dry.
Lots of people tried cutting after we cut, and the pop in rain no doubt wreaked havoc on them. We had talked back and forth about a treatment system, but after lots of online research, many horse customers won't buy preserved hay, and sometimes others have horses that refuse to eat it. So it's not a risk I'd like to take . . . if it was cows, now that'd be a different story ;D
You could cut some time by not handling bales twice. There is no reason to put the 10 bale group on the ground around the empty wagon. Put those bale groups directly on the wagon when you end the FIRST and Only lift of them. This way they will already be mobile when you are forced by the rain to gather what you can and run for the barn.
We tried it like that but when your using a accumagrapple it leaves alot of spaces inbetween the bales and stacking on the trailer doesnt work well and even harder to get them off. So what we found works best gather all the bales take off the dividers so you can push the bundles tight and then stack on the trailer.
@@ruralridez6165 we tried both ways .....normally now i stack direct from the field with the dividers in but we can be pretty precise stacking with a skid steer (5 high on wagon) ......we have enough room to pull wagons in barn if weather is bad or its late........the next morning when i unload them with the dividers out i will sit the pack on the ground and tighten it up before stacking in the barn...since you cant shed your wagon and wait a day there seems to be no reason not to do the changeover on the grapple in the field
Can't believe you only got 300 bales from 10 acres...did I hear that right? I just finished a 7 acre piece and got 750 bales. Every time I see that grapple I think it's crazy to push your bales all over the field but that's just me. How much are you getting for this horse hay this year?
Last year we only got 300 from all 18 acres first cutting. I think we got about 400 the 10 acre field this year. It's 2 years overdue for replanting, but between locating a seeder and seed out of stock it's been a disaster. We sold hay last year for 8.50, this years 1st cut is 7.50...
Commenting early,,,just noticed,,you finally hit 70k...congratulations,,,,never give up...🤓💯🇺🇲🤘
Thankyou! yes I did :D
god ,i love you bless ya.
I look at today's technology, and sometimes wonder how we managed in the 70's. We had a bailer but collecting and stacking was manual, it was kind of co-op+, the families of different farms would help each other out in kind of a quid pro quo arrangement (best, unless you are the 12 to17 year old part of the quo), hire people from the state employment office/want adds (very unpredictable), or hire the from roaming groups of farm hands who would always tell you the last farmer/market price was a million billion dollars to collect a crop your size and they would defecate in the fields (huge mistake).
Jeez, isn't it crazy these days :(
Way to get it done and that is great looking grass. We have baled over 1600 squares already and going strong. check us out.
You know, when we first bought our property, we were happy to make enough to feed our own animals. But as we upgraded equipment, it became obvious that expanding our fields would benefit to justify that equipment, lol! Now we have the problem that we are out of expansion space, and the cost to build more storage would outweigh the benefits of more land. We would love to be able to put up 2,000 bales per cut. But that's why we switched into Christmas trees . . . there was a market opening and they require next to nothing for equipment ;D Good luck with your hay season this year :D
Watching u tube on tv.sound good. 6/19/22
Easy fix for the black iron fall out of it's mount. Drill a small hole in the top of it probably a 5/16 diameter hole would be plenty big enough a put a bolt through it with a nut on the end of it tighten it up and presto rod can't go all the way through the mounting bracket and the problem is solved.
Exactly. I guess the original bar DID have something like that. So I ahve a second baler, I will put that off my extra baler and put it to use ;D
@@This1LifeWeLive still interested in buying whats left of your other baler.
I finally got some hay done too in between all the rain. But, one square baler broke and a tractor keeps overheating lol. Puts me down to one tractor, it takes forever ha
Man, always something, isn't it?
Yeah I just went an bought a new 574 yesterday and used it today square and round baling. Wow I should've bought it along time ago. It's my second TYM
@@chickenman298 which one was your first TYM?
2009 353 bought it new too. Believe it or not I've cut and baled literally about 10,000 squares with it and do all kinds of jobs with it. Some of it is on my channel
At 4:40 only one of those Stops on the side are opening. Is that how it should work? Dew does 'not come up out of the ground'. Perhaps I missed it, but when the grapple is full, why not put it directly on the trailer? Hook up problem? Get a chute made if dropping the bale is causing a problem. Too much tension? 60 lb + bales?
I'm not sure what's going on with the "stops", and that's why I took video. I will ahve to look more up online. I did notice on the top one had some work done on it, so it has been an issue prevously for the last guy ;)
So, with the grapple, erik found it worked better to collect them on the ground. The guards come off and allow you to "tighten" the group for tight stacking. He used to stack right onto the trailer, but the stacks ended up falling over while driving, or proving tricky to grab back off and load into the barn.
It does take a bit longer, but give much tighter stacks, and less falling ;D
@@This1LifeWeLive I was referring to the 2 small stops/doors on the SIDE of the bale box. Only 1 was opening. I am not sure what they do other than keep packed hay/straw back in their place after the plunger retreats.
Thanks for explaining the Grapple stuff. Great trailer for you purposes.
Just started watching your videos after watching the trailer repar ones, Do yall have a Tedder? If not it would speed up your dry times alot! Also with the price of fertilizer and diesel I would not drop the price on bales at all, even down here in TX were raising prices this year to accommodate, we sure could use some of yalls rain though, we're coming up on time for 2nd cutting to be ready and the fields are terrible.
We are in the same boat now, lol. NO RAIN. My second cut should be in 2 weeks but grass is only 7-8" tall! Yes, we do have a tedder, but trying to save on fuel, lol!
When do you put your fertilizer on. We fertilize on spring green up and after first cut.
Usually that. Unless we are running a drought . .
Looked like I was going to get 3-4 days without rain, Saturday rolled around and got out cutting. Forecast changed and got rain the next night, before it had a chance to dry. Tedded the next day, was just about ready to rake, .2" rain that night. By the time it got dry enough to bale is was all brown. My NH273 needed new chains, so put a full set on, reel chain jumped the sprocket twice, then discovered I missed a washer behind a pulley, problem solved. 14 bales later, dead stop, broke shear bolt. Replaced it, seemed to be turning OK, started up, broke another shear bolt. Turned out the middle teeth on the feeder had missing springs, which caused on tooth to get stuck and hit by the ram, so replaced them out in the field. Issue free after that.
At least I didn't break the PTO shaft on the first turn like I did with my 1209. Thats what I get for leaving the jack on and forgetting to move the drawbar out 14" like it was supposed to be. OOPS. Good thing I can weld.
ohhhhhhh maaaaannnnnn! Totally sucks! Our 273 was probably well on it's way to doing that same thing! The bale chamber was shot and the bearings totally ripping out (the knotters missing was just the start). This was before I began diving into equipment repair, but even now had all that stuff gone wrong I think Erik would probably light the baler on fire before he'd agree to let me fix it ;D
And I've drug the jack stand MAAAAAAANY times, lol! Usually always the baler too!
@@This1LifeWeLive After looking everything over, it appears the knife didn't hit the tooth this time. The shear bolt that was installed was grade 2, and not an actual shear bolt, threads were too long. Heavy hay caused the bolt to shear. The tooth with the knife marks may have fallen off in the past by the previous owner and stuck back on. That was a relief.
I did replace all chains before baling, missed a washer and had the reel chain jump twice before I figured it out, but the knotter worked perfectly every time and the baler ran smooth as silk once I put the correct shear bolt on the flywheel.
@@acdii and this is why I'm petrified to touch any chains 😆😶
@@This1LifeWeLive Chains are the easiest part, just make sure nothing moves after the chain is off, and make sure to mark everything, and dont do like I did and not pay attention to the chain on pulley centers. . Take pictures of the pulleys and sprockets before taking it apart, and use the number of links per the parts manual. The timing chain will need links added as well as the flywheel side reel chain. 3 10' A2040 chain packs is all you need.
Got some advice if you want it sell your hay in the wintertime hay is hay top dollar for anything out there your customers always want spring hay right out of the field so you normally sell I promise you you will double your money works for me for 30 years now
We had done that for a few years. We jut don't have much space to store though as we like to move some of our equipment into the barn over winter ;)
My Sister and Her Husband have Goats. The do Round Bails now. I can't walk very good now, so I can't help them anymore.
I enjoy your videos. Why wouldn't you load the bales on the trailer right away when you first picked them up?
We did that the first cutting a year ago, and found them to topple over. This is a collection AND grapple, but had spacers that need to be removed for bale pickup because it pulls them in tighter. We had two tall stacks fall over in the barn. Once we switched to collecting, then grabbing with the guards off, we were able to group them tighter and stack tighter :)
@@This1LifeWeLive Thank you for the reply. Do you think you could load the bales on the trailer with the guards on and then take them off when you unload the hay off the trailer and into the barn for tighter stacking? I know how much work it is to cut, rake, bale, haul and stack hay with only 2 people. Even in perfect conditions it should be outlawed. lol. Anyway, just trying to find a way to eliminate a step if possible without creating a new set of problems. You guys are definitely cut from the rock of Ol school. My highest respect to your entire family.
@@dustchip8060 yes you definitely can, but its a bit tougher getting them tight on the trailer, and depending on how far you gotta drive they might wiggle off. Honestly it's whatever you find easier 😉
The first cutting in always the hardest to beat the rain and the repairs dont help at all
Hey babe I just wanted to say there's no easy way to do hay . My dad custom baled from the fifty's into seventy's and I had hay truck and you couldn't find help back then . I've wore out three square balers ,four round balers ,and myself ! I'm just about 70 time will get you ! Just wanted to say hi I love you , and wish I could be there to help you out good luck sweetie
Walt
Thanks Walt!
@@This1LifeWeLive your welcome babe
Do you have Rim Guard in the rear tires of the TYM tractor and how are you liking the TYM I've been considering buying a TYM been watching the Stoney Ridge Farmer and seeing him use his TYM tractors they look like a good tractor and have a fair price I just worry about service after the sale the closest dealer is about 100 miles from my house.
Serivce is an issue with any tractor. Both my New Holland shops are 45 minutes away. I once rove my bailer out to them for repair . . . that was a terrible idea. Since then I learned how to repair it my self. The nice thing is if you have the Kukje motor you can make any repairs yourself, or have a local mechanic do it. It's old school build, none of the BS computer crap all the new ones use. I have the rear tires loaded, don't remember what it was but I did a video on it a while back :)
First from North Dakota
Hey there Dixie!
Hey boo-boo Been a while
I've been here making videos :) I try to get them out once a week but sometimes it hits every 10 days ;D
I wish I was could help but being an estimated 1000 miles away not much help huh. All I can do is give moral support.
go kat kenndy
What model is your blue tractor? Is it reliable ?
It's a New Holland T.5 115 . So far it's been good. The PTO live switch can be quirky and refuse to work at times, and the transmission seems to be slipping a bit, but I ahven't had to take her in to the mechanic yet ;D
Thanks For your answer.cheers from Argentina!!
That accumulate thing is silly a kicker and wagons is so much easier
now if they just had a kicker/wagon that would unload and stack them in the barn.....like a silly accumulator does with one man...silly thang will also unload the barn on to a customers trailer too.....
Are you near Dr. Pole
he is up north of me maybe an hour
That’s an accumulator, not a grapple?
It's both actually, lol
You know by now weathermen are only accurate as far as the horizon that you can see
Can't make hay by starting and stoping and talking! from Chuck
DARLIN, I HAVE MADE MORE HAY THAN YOU HAVE SEEN DAYLIGHT. IF YOU WAIT FOR THAT LITTLE IT OF CLOVER TO BE PERFECTLY DRY YOU ARE MAKING MISTAKE
Here in mid Michigan, we also have humidity to contend with. If that bit of clover isn't perfectly dry, it WILL cause bales to mold later. I don't have to produce thousands of bales of hay to discover this. Only takes a handful ;) And customers who feed that hay to horses end up with coughing horses, and won't come back again. And the drier it is, hopefully the more it will shatter and end up on the field and NOT in my bales. That "little bit of clover" shot my hay sugar readings from 5% up to 9%.
Your haybine is not cutting the grass very close to the ground. You are losing a lot of bales by leaving those long stems standing.
Agree--it looked way too long to me. It does encourage growth for second cut though.
I left it extra long on purpose and after talking to our local feed mill guy who also does hay. He said he finds it survives summer temps better when first cut is taller. Plus the lower to the ground is where the sugar is at in the grass. This is the tallest I ever did 1st cut, so we will see!
I'm in Central Ohio. I took a job in Grand Rapids 95-97. Loved it up there. I was offered a position to come back home to Ohio. I almost said no to the transfer, but happy I did. Good sound quality especially because you had little wind noise: however, Ladies listen up. The voice crackle in the middle of a sentence pronouncing words has been becoming common. It is not cute, it is not sexy and it is annoying to most men. Very annoying. I was on a blind date a couple months ago and EVERY word she spoke was with that voice crackle. I could only handle about 45 minutes of that and ended the date.
You'll have to give me a timestamp on the video . . . I'm not sure I know what you mean. If I'm outside, then it's 100% allergies and I'm fighting my vocal cords (I clear my throat every 5 minutes) and trying to talk loud enough for the mic to pick me up (I naturally talk quietly), if it's inside, I am still trying to talk loud enough for the mic to pick me up, but also more slowly, and clearly.
Honestly I try to eliminate any crackles, not add them. I didn't speak a word for the first 12 years of my life because anytime I did, people would ask what's wrong with my voice.
i just love watching hobby farmers trying to farm, if you dont know how to operate a baler properly, let someone else do it before you get hurt...
Perfect advice! When all the old farmers die off there will be no one left to farm for no one should certainly set out to try to learn or be taught . . . While we are at it, lets close down trade school and colleges. heck, ban public schooling entirely. Learning is over-rated.