Rob Knight: How our microbes make us who we are

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @RussFling
    @RussFling 10 лет назад +62

    I have recently gone back to school for microbiology, and I am amazed how ignorant I was to the microbial world living inside and on me! This is a great Ted Talk shedding light on how microbes help us in countless ways. It seems it is an exciting time to be a microbiologist!

    • @snowflake5204
      @snowflake5204 3 года назад +3

      Hey @Russ! I am curious to know what you are doing right now. :D Indeed it's a great time to be microbiologist or maybe bioinformatician..

  • @emilywillen508
    @emilywillen508 9 лет назад +181

    For anyone interested, Rob Knight also gives a free 6 week class on Coursera called "Gut Check: Exploring Your Microbiome", which you can take at anytime.

    • @MLouah-gp9ef
      @MLouah-gp9ef 7 лет назад +10

      Emily Willen I think I'm starting to have feelings for you

    • @bhawankishore7236
      @bhawankishore7236 6 лет назад

      Emily Willen thank u

    • @Biomeducated
      @Biomeducated 6 лет назад

      Thanks a thousand, Emily! Will definitely check that out. Very relevant for my own research :)

    • @foxiefair123
      @foxiefair123 5 лет назад

      Emily Willen Oh, cool, thanks!😀

    • @xiaolingzhang44
      @xiaolingzhang44 5 лет назад +2

      Your are awesome! do you know anything about oral probiotics?

  • @arthurdent6256
    @arthurdent6256 10 лет назад +42

    These Ted talks are a gold mine for Science Fiction/ Fantasy writers. They explain their fields so well.

  • @alanw505
    @alanw505 10 лет назад +88

    This symbiotic relationship seems so understandable when you consider that the first 80% of earths life cycle were single cell bacteria. 

    • @FuOnY
      @FuOnY 10 лет назад +1

      what about the remaining 20%?

    • @alanw505
      @alanw505 10 лет назад +2

      FuOnY​ Man, that's a long answer. In short life needed to have things like oxygen, an atmosphere in order to begin rapidly evolving past the single cell bacteria stage in and out of the water. Of course none of this was planned nor had an end goal in mind.

    • @piranha031091
      @piranha031091 10 лет назад +6

      FuOnY
      I think that's just a matter of poor wording here.
      What Alan W meant is that life on earth was exclusively single cell bacteria from its beginning until 80% of its current age. Only then did it began evolving past that stage.
      It seemed really weird to me too, I first understood it as "80% of earth's life was bacteria at first", had to reread it a bunch of time.

    • @piranha031091
      @piranha031091 10 лет назад +2

      Also, on a separate note, Pluricellular life is likely much older than that. 600 million years old is the date for the oldest confirmed multicellular fossils. (Those from the Doushanto formation). The Grypania and Francevillian biota are both dated back to 2.1 billion years old. While there is still a debate over their multiicellular nature (especially for Grypania, not so much for the Francevillian biota), odds are quite likely that they actually were multicellular.
      And since the actual oldest multicellular organisms were probably slimy blobs of cells without a defined shape, it is highly unlikely we will ever find fossils of them.
      So, odds are life only stayed exclusively as single cell organism for something around 44% of its current existence on Earth. (probably less : there seems to be less chronological incertitude on the origins of life itself (the earliest possible dates being limited by Earth's habitability) than on the time of its evolution into pluricellular organisms).

    • @alanw505
      @alanw505 10 лет назад

      piranha031091 Cyanobacteria discovered in Australia is dated to nearly 3.5 billon years ago. You are correct about multicellular life recently discover to be at least 2 billion years old.

  • @devilside1
    @devilside1 10 лет назад +7

    This is make human become more complex. I think this study was awesome. The world of microbe inside you define who you are.

  • @2TimeShift
    @2TimeShift 10 лет назад +13

    Thank You Rob. I had heard of fecal transplants years ago but dismissed it as quackery. I can envision your research leading to one day taking a pill full of specific microbes that will cure diseases or perhaps undo some of the damage we humans have unknowingly inflicted on ourselves.

  • @sallysassa
    @sallysassa 6 лет назад +6

    Rob Knight (born 1976 in Dunedin, New Zealand) Thank you - great info.

    • @selenaclarke
      @selenaclarke Год назад

      Theres AMAZING stuff coming from NZ

  • @Kjandreassen89
    @Kjandreassen89 8 лет назад +8

    This is such an exciting field! I can't wait for what the future will bring when it comes to microbial transplants. To this day there is so little we can for patients with digestive disorders

  • @droqueplot
    @droqueplot 2 года назад +1

    This is mind blowing!

  • @r.ridderbusch7303
    @r.ridderbusch7303 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you very much for your input in getting my daughter's paper published!

  • @CoiledDracca
    @CoiledDracca 10 лет назад +1

    A good portion of me is not actually me... and you... Did you know it, I admit, I did, but I love videos that put it forward like this.

  • @janineclaassens9019
    @janineclaassens9019 Год назад +1

    You are doing awesome work. Keep it up

  • @61Marsh
    @61Marsh 10 лет назад +2

    Truly amazing, this could a radical start to many new treatments

  • @scottverbridge7698
    @scottverbridge7698 2 года назад +3

    Great stuff! The 10:1 ratio for bacterial cells to "our" cells estimate has been revised, it's probably closer to 1:1. Otherwise great info!

  • @kevinchen-mv4fm
    @kevinchen-mv4fm 4 года назад +1

    This is truly fascinating

  • @LemonNation
    @LemonNation 9 лет назад +16

    So... when cannibals say they're going to eat someone to steal their powers, that might actually be what happens?

    • @Emiliapocalypse
      @Emiliapocalypse 5 лет назад +10

      LemonNation yep. Wanna come over for dinner? 🍴

  • @vegness
    @vegness 7 лет назад +1

    Absolutely fascinating!!! I am now really keen to learn more in this area!

  • @sammy7424
    @sammy7424 2 года назад +2

    I watched this two and a half years aho and my mind was blown- im now at uni studying microbiology :)

  • @robin0540
    @robin0540 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting. Wish I knew more about this earlier.

  • @williamnguyen2677
    @williamnguyen2677 6 лет назад +2

    I met him at school today, he was so interesting

  • @MrsKik001
    @MrsKik001 10 лет назад +1

    So interesting! Is there a transcript of this TED Talk?

  • @chuckstarwar7890
    @chuckstarwar7890 9 лет назад +1

    Human Genome Project (HGP) was initiated and completed by DOE, NIH is only a later involver.

  • @MonkeyKong21
    @MonkeyKong21 10 лет назад +4

    you can buy yogurt with beneficial microbes but the microbes were selected by the yogurt company so that they have to keep being replenished by eating their yogurt on a regular basis

    • @MonkeyKong21
      @MonkeyKong21 9 лет назад +1

      ***** Yep, it's called Danone Activia and it says everything that I said right on its box

  • @rahn45
    @rahn45 10 лет назад +17

    To elaborate on his point that autism and gut bacteria might have a relation, is that there's some evidence to suggest that when a young child gets sick and is bombarded with antibiotics to combat the illness, their gut bacteria is severely disrupted; and that in certain cases one of the gut bacteria that comes to dominate the gut produces neuro-toxins as a waste product. As a result that child will develop autism due to the neuro-toxin inhibiting the brain's development and function. Another further correlation is that autism rates are higher in first world nations: Countries that have high antibiotic use.

  • @huonglarne
    @huonglarne Год назад +1

    Incredible

  • @modiginternaldisciplines3150
    @modiginternaldisciplines3150 7 лет назад +1

    Very interesting information that answers a lot of questions for me.

  • @paulocavalcante5795
    @paulocavalcante5795 2 года назад +1

    the best TED :)

  • @bluebonbon22
    @bluebonbon22 5 лет назад +1

    Wish he went into more details about antibiotics early in life and obesity.

  • @jkst9864
    @jkst9864 10 лет назад

    Incredibly interesting and insightful for a layman. Thanks.

  • @Cabledog9277
    @Cabledog9277 9 лет назад +2

    The best TED Talk ever done, amazing.

  • @izak-jn3vi
    @izak-jn3vi 8 лет назад +3

    The question that is puzzling me big time : how can you improve your microbiome ? Probiotics and fermented foods are useless since they are aerobic and gut bacteria is anaerobic. increasing fiber helps the ones you have thrive but it doesn't add diversity...
    i know it is all a new thing but would like any info in this regards.

    • @ubu6949
      @ubu6949 6 лет назад +4

      i. zak Why do you say fermented foods are aerobic? I ferment vegetables in anaerobic jars. I don't think probiotics are useless, especially added to fermented foods.

  • @HiAdrian
    @HiAdrian 10 лет назад +1

    Very interesting field of study, I hope further surprising revelations await that can help us.

  • @Daedhart
    @Daedhart 10 лет назад +4

    This is good news. It seems absurd to think about microscopic creatures as having any impact on our lives just as it was absurd that we could detect exoplanets 10 years ago. Its time for the absurd to become reality.

  • @leoerickson980
    @leoerickson980 4 года назад +1

    *frantically modifies a t-shirt cannon to shoot gut bacteria stool sample collection kits*

  • @johnmuller7628
    @johnmuller7628 10 лет назад +23

    Fascinating.I was adopted and it must have been a c-section because I have an overwhelming desire to coat myself in vaginal juices. Lol. Where can I follow up on continued research that you are developing?

  • @TaroutCommodore
    @TaroutCommodore 10 лет назад +11

    Why are so many assholes complaining about his accent?
    People have different accents you know that right?
    Plus, if you're a scientist you get to speak HOWEVER because you're awesome :)

    • @noscabkiss
      @noscabkiss 7 лет назад

      Why are so many assholes complaining about his accent? Because they suffer from Libtardism, and so therefore, it's 'racist' ! Perhaps yelling out 'alla akshit' or whatever like they do will bring us the cultural enrichment that they missed from the above video..? .Eye think knot! Cheers!

  • @1964TP
    @1964TP 6 лет назад +2

    If your oral microbes are important then what does mouth wash, and teeth brushing have to do with it? Does alcohol kill those microbes?

    • @ubu6949
      @ubu6949 6 лет назад +3

      1964TP I know fungus cannot thrive in sodium bicarbonate. As for alcohol, all fermented foods contain it. I think it is beneficial to us in small amounts.

  • @bcjustgreen
    @bcjustgreen 10 лет назад +1

    Is it possible that our genes and microbes are correlated with each other?
    This is a great talk; accent is not supposed to be a major focus.

  • @arod2799
    @arod2799 10 лет назад +1

    I'm abit confuse of how microbes could effect a person being odese or not. To my personal opinion I do believe obesity is cause by the person over eating habits (I have not reseach odesity topices since 10th grade, so my opinion can be easily be change with some good facts) Rob Knight is saying with the right microbes, it could cure illness. I believe that would be in anatomy field of science, and eating habits is in psychology. Could microbes effect both body and mind?

  • @maheshdebata2991
    @maheshdebata2991 5 лет назад

    Very good

  • @sheilalepotakis8441
    @sheilalepotakis8441 7 лет назад

    Very interesting.

  • @jaimebenito620
    @jaimebenito620 10 лет назад +30

    Maybe a different accent would have been more pleasant to my ears, but in any case, I would gladly listen to this guy talking for hours, if the content delivered is as informative and fascinating as this little presentation... regardless of how technical it is. This is really an enthralling glimpse on something I have suspected for a long time, but with key figures whose magnitude I could have never guessed correctly (except by sheer luck). I wonder how many people realise the importance of these findings, even if the results can be improved to the point of resulting in radically different figures. Ineffable is really the only appropriate word that comes to mind when trying to describe this study.

    • @dwaynecoker5040
      @dwaynecoker5040 10 лет назад

      you'll love readying this blog then coolinginflammation.blogspot.co.nz/

    • @Krillep
      @Krillep 9 лет назад

      But what do you have to do to get healthy microbes? Is it some food, or do you need take it as transplanation?

    • @dwaynecoker5040
      @dwaynecoker5040 9 лет назад +1

      Krillep according to the cooling inflammation blog. Fermented foods and/or a fecal transplant will introduce the missing microbes/gut flora.

    • @cookforyourlife787
      @cookforyourlife787 9 лет назад +1

      Krillep Fermented foods are great but you should also be taking probiotics; this will introduce healthy gut flora back in to your system. Other helpful suggestions to promote healthy microbes in your gut would be to avoid/eliminate sugar, refined/processed food, wheat, dairy, food additives and preservatives and focus on whole, natural, good quality foods :).

    • @cookforyourlife787
      @cookforyourlife787 9 лет назад

      Dwayne Coker I happen to really like Genestra's Human Micro Flora (HMF powder). Genestra is very reputable and a well trusted name. Metagenics also produces some really good quality probiotics.

  • @VeganOstomy
    @VeganOstomy 8 лет назад +3

    I live without a colon, the alleged "home" to a vast majority of my microbes, yet I don't experience allergies, ear/eye/throat infections, GI problems, mental health issues, obesity, or any other health-related troubles - what explanation could there be for this?
    I ask because there are millions of us without a colon, yet we seem to experience no ill-effects from it. Do the microbes that would normally be in our colon set up shop somewhere else? Where?

    • @druegnor
      @druegnor 8 лет назад +5

      +Vegan Ostomy you are mistaken. Vast majority of microbes does not live only in colon. They live in the intestinal part of the body. You might lose your colon bacteria, but there are still intestinal bacteria. Look up on Gut-Bacteria.

    • @perets006
      @perets006 8 лет назад

      if would lost your colon before your birth, the consequences were far more serious

  • @jokeasjes
    @jokeasjes 10 лет назад +1

    Hartstikke interessant

  • @milenadeltorto2324
    @milenadeltorto2324 5 лет назад

    Wow!
    So where/how can I get the biome to lose weight? Anyone know?

  • @josephpeters5681
    @josephpeters5681 6 лет назад +4

    Is it possible to attract mirobs with different energy levels? (Electricity)

  • @MythHorse213
    @MythHorse213 4 года назад +1

    not all children get these childhood diseases due to birth by c-section. My daughter has none and was valedictorian of her class, on the deans' list for college. No asthma, No diabetics, No obesity. My family does have a history of Type 2 Diabetic in some members. If you had an emergency C-Section don't feel bad, this doesn't apply to all children. I did breastfeed for a year after birth which helps with immunity.

    • @tiffany5333
      @tiffany5333 Год назад

      nobody fucking said that, that is obvious.

  • @5jjt
    @5jjt 2 года назад

    Hi Hannah!

  •  7 лет назад

    Looking for an educated answer for a question, please no highly speculative wishful thinking.
    If the Microbiota is so important to our immunity, mental health/mood, nutrient absorption, metabolism etc. and the vast majority of the microflora reside in the large intestine, why is it that people who have had their large intestine completely removed are able to live nearly normal lives enjoying many foods, not needing to live in germ free bubbles? Also note that they don't suddenly develope mental disabilities or other disease states attributed to poor gut flora??
    I ask this because I have a personal interest in the topic as my health is at risk.
    Thank you in advance to all.

  • @ROO1998JS
    @ROO1998JS 10 лет назад

    super interesting :D I cant believe they are so important

  • @devbachu7072
    @devbachu7072 5 лет назад

    Agree boss thanks

  • @honeybunny8894
    @honeybunny8894 3 года назад +1

    and it means that "who we are" visually is only 10% of who we are really....🤔

  • @user-sd2yy7vo6x
    @user-sd2yy7vo6x 3 года назад

    Hi Rob .How is the GMO (DNA transcribed into GM) mrna injected into us going to effect( modify) us with this in mind?

  • @davidstar2362
    @davidstar2362 3 года назад

    Detroit Michigan 48221. Thank you very much. I sub, liked and commented : Video paid for.

  • @thomasyamaguchi6434
    @thomasyamaguchi6434 10 лет назад

    This is Cool!!

  • @sbsman4998
    @sbsman4998 9 лет назад

    Could all wiggly critters be merely stages of microbial beings, life forms from amassed single cell entities, even the roaming lights in the sky and crop designs?

  • @emptyskullify
    @emptyskullify 10 лет назад +9

    WHAT ACCENT IS THAT?? Its like an amalgam of the Australian and Irish accent, or an amalgam of an Australian and American accent. I MUST KNOW!!! XD

    • @mhtinla
      @mhtinla 10 лет назад +5

      NZ

    • @tdreamgmail
      @tdreamgmail 10 лет назад

      I thought there was a hint of irish in there too.

    • @TheBigwadey
      @TheBigwadey 10 лет назад

      It's a type of NZ accent from the deep south.

    • @MisterF_1984
      @MisterF_1984 9 лет назад

      ***** you're the worst troll ever.

  • @sweetg3377
    @sweetg3377 7 лет назад +1

    So how do we take care of our gut bacteria?

  • @mixey01
    @mixey01 10 лет назад +1

    There's a saying "Microbes rule the World"

  • @DeoMachina
    @DeoMachina 10 лет назад +2

    Yoo, that's pretty crazy. I wonder just how much of our behaviour might be influenced by microbes?

    • @naturehacker1095
      @naturehacker1095 4 года назад +2

      I'm a microbe and I made my host type this comment. :)

  • @medicalpanorama
    @medicalpanorama 2 года назад

    It is still possible to re-build ones gut habitat later in life.

  • @viermedepamant
    @viermedepamant 5 лет назад +1

    What about the microbiom from the lungs?I read that we have bacteria in the lungs also!

  • @jm01157
    @jm01157 2 месяца назад

    I've never seen a mouse that large

  • @robinbreeds9217
    @robinbreeds9217 6 лет назад

    why o why is no Doctor talking about this in my local surgery

    • @chich1344
      @chich1344 5 лет назад

      Why would they? Its all about the money, the more sick we are the more money they make :D

  • @melissaoosthuizen3467
    @melissaoosthuizen3467 4 года назад +1

    he couldve made this speech 5 minutes long

  • @yasmina_reads
    @yasmina_reads 10 лет назад +3

    How would you physically coat the child in vaginal fluids after birth from via a c-section??

    • @obsideonyx7604
      @obsideonyx7604 10 лет назад

      Drain their mother of vajayjay juice and rub it all over the baby's body?

    • @obsideonyx7604
      @obsideonyx7604 10 лет назад +5

      DahBjorn "Do you take a hundred cotton swabs, dip it in your wife, and then smear it on your child?"
      YES! YES GOD DAMMIT DIDN'T YOU SEE MY COMMENT?!?!

    • @DahBjorn
      @DahBjorn 10 лет назад

      Mhlonishwa Ngcamphalala Yea... "Drain their mother of vajayjay juice" sounds a little more brutal than cotton swabs...and how would you go about draining someone of vagina juice anyway? Regardless, I was commenting on what Mina d said.

    • @embriettehyde8048
      @embriettehyde8048 10 лет назад +14

      It is neither vaginal draining nor the use of swabs, though swabs are closer to the truth. Rather, this is a procedure that uses sterile gauzes, which are folded like tampons and introduced into the mother's birth canal before the c-section takes place. The gauze is then extracted right before the c-section and immediately rubbed over the baby after it is born. This is a procedure that is being utilized in several hospitals, and the effects of this method on the microbiome and how successful it is are being studied extensively by Maria Gloria Dominguez-Bello at NYU: medicine.med.nyu.edu/clinicalpharm/research/dominguez-bello-lab
      There is also a really cool documentary about the entire subject as a whole: microbirth.com/

    • @DahBjorn
      @DahBjorn 10 лет назад +1

      Embriette Hyde Thank you, that was very informative. A quick rub-down with gauze actually sounds far less wierd as well, somehow. Thanks for the links as well :)

  • @zainjafry2658
    @zainjafry2658 6 лет назад +1

    thumbs up if mary making u watch this

  • @mattstofko7797
    @mattstofko7797 8 лет назад +2

    Do dental X rays kill the mouth microbiome?

    • @perets006
      @perets006 8 лет назад

      it is more dangerous for you than for your microbes....they can be recovered more quickly than your cells

  • @Sprossenzuechter
    @Sprossenzuechter 10 лет назад +4

    Now THAT'S why kissing is healthy!

  • @TheDrunkardHu
    @TheDrunkardHu 10 лет назад +2

    awesome! if you need a test subject, i could use some healthy microbes!

  • @dennisboyd1712
    @dennisboyd1712 5 лет назад +1

    WOW How Healthy would we be if we damage our gut microbes with all the Glyphosate we eat each day.

  • @anton-ello
    @anton-ello 5 лет назад

    They can use ecoli and salmonella to eat away at tumors as well.

  • @finlaar11
    @finlaar11 10 лет назад +3

    Great talk but his accent messes with my brain...

  • @Lightningbug122
    @Lightningbug122 5 лет назад

    Eat horseradish with every meal

  • @yogayantra
    @yogayantra 9 лет назад +4

    He is a specialist in his field, but in his field only.
    No animals should be used at all. We, human species do not deserve the torture of even one mouse.
    He addresses a population who lives on the SAD (standard American Diet) and not on raw food, on green leafy vegetables. Change your diet, change your life.

    • @SleepyCity0001
      @SleepyCity0001 7 лет назад

      yogayantra Dominique I agree. But what do you think an alternative is?

    • @johnmarstonlives
      @johnmarstonlives 6 лет назад

      Eating a nice juicy steak right now

    • @CorDeGeleia
      @CorDeGeleia 5 лет назад

      diet has a deep effect on the microbiome of your gut, but microbiome of your gut also has a deep effect on the food you crave. Is a vicious circle

  • @PixelPhobiac
    @PixelPhobiac 10 лет назад

    Bioinformatics, woop woop!

  • @MisterF_1984
    @MisterF_1984 9 лет назад +2

    WHAT IS THIS ACCENT?!!!

    • @MisterF_1984
      @MisterF_1984 9 лет назад +4

      Sounds like someone who lived in New Zealand for their early life, then lived in the USA for quite a while but got a blocked nose just before shooting this video.

  • @corazon5300
    @corazon5300 9 лет назад

    I find the topic very interesting, as well as the possible future medical treatment of obesity and etc. Though I do wish this guy could speak in such a way that would grab my attention because I find his talk rather boring to me that I almost fell a asleep. Over all it was a great video its just, to me, his talks doesn't interest me the most

  • @leighedwards
    @leighedwards 4 года назад

    Microbes 10 to 1 human cell is just plain wrong - more like 1.3 to 1. And it's not 3Ib more like 200g.

  • @whitehole8155
    @whitehole8155 5 лет назад +1

    TRAVAIL D'SVT VOUS ÊTES LÀ

  • @sugboboy
    @sugboboy 5 лет назад

    Microbes are ubiquitous!!!

  • @dharma2025
    @dharma2025 2 года назад

    Do vaccinations have any effect on the microbiome of a person? If so, what?

  • @obsideonyx7604
    @obsideonyx7604 10 лет назад

    *Slow clap*

  • @jimkosglow692
    @jimkosglow692 6 лет назад

    Jim Kosglow: Here's another excellent overview video about the urgency of understanding the brain-gut connection: ruclips.net/video/gh1Spq2JzRI/видео.html

  • @josemanuelarvide2712
    @josemanuelarvide2712 5 лет назад

    It amazing how the technology and science is moving so fast in this arena... today we can find supplements with metabolites with companies like Sanki, for anyone interested in this unique product you can visit sankibalance.com ....

  • @ductuslupus87
    @ductuslupus87 10 лет назад +2

    This guy has the weirdest fucking accent I've ever heard. Interesting Talk, though.

    • @Semibiased
      @Semibiased 10 лет назад +3

      He's from New Zealand

    • @thomastreadwell6426
      @thomastreadwell6426 10 лет назад +3

      Kiwi here. I was also immediately thrown by the accent. He's got a Kiwi twang but there's definitely something really unusual about that accent

    • @dwaynecoker5040
      @dwaynecoker5040 10 лет назад

      Thomas Treadwell
      I'm a Kiwi too. I agree, kiwi accent but mixed with something else. I read on his bio that he has been in the States for a while, so probably Kiwi/American accent

    • @ashramsidali2541
      @ashramsidali2541 8 лет назад

      Dwayne Coker

  • @timmythistle6615
    @timmythistle6615 6 лет назад +1

    This is bulllshit. I'm a C-sections and so is my brother and two other people I know and we're all lean. Also a bit harsh down grading C-section because us C-sections never had a choice in the matter on how we were to be born and can't do anything about it at all.

    • @jasonlee5953
      @jasonlee5953 5 лет назад

      Definitely not offended there tjom 😂

    • @mistatrollge3184
      @mistatrollge3184 2 года назад

      Natural births are better. Regardless.

  • @the_good_citizen
    @the_good_citizen 2 года назад

    His voice is so monotonous. I slept thru all of it🙄

  • @roxxyfakename
    @roxxyfakename 10 лет назад

    Ooooch. Just couldnt deliver on those jokes... Might have been less awkward to watch the first time if he didnt attempt humor. Good talk though, really interesting.