The mcx is incompatible with 556 muzzle devices because .300 blackout bullets have a bigger diameter, not to mention the difference in thread pitches between said devices and the barrel
I feel that the akm now is trash. The other guns improved greatly compared to it. 5.56 feels loads better we have access to a1 after cultists or whatever from peace keeper. It's a great round. All I've been using is the akm for mid wipe and I'm switching over to mdar/adar. It's strange. It appears there's a timeline coming together that makes the 5.56 platform viable in tarkov. M80 and BP changes are another reason I'm falling into 5.56. I can run decent a1 ammo. I can't run anything but ps in 7.62 which is a decent round but I'll take that a1 at this point in the wipe. I really am surprised to see this though. Never thought I'd go 7.62 to 5.56 and most likely back to 7.62 when I get BP in a wipe. It's been 7.62 only for a while for me.
It's definitely not trash at all. BP is arguably the best ammo in the game. The other guns needed major changes to be able to compete with it with their lower damage ammo. This is the most balanced the guns have been in a long time. Multiple calibers actually feel viable as opposed to nothing but 7.62x39 and 7.62x51
@@meandab saddly m80 is too hard to get. I think 5.56 is the strongest ammo in the game an I appreciate they buffed the cool guns that use them. 5.45 is strong because how easy it is to get decent ammo for it. Honestly that 5.56nato ak should be the meta. Ak74 low recoil stats with great ammo. I think they buffed the AKS_74Us its not hard to get them with high ergo and really low recoil currently
@@meandab No BP is meta. Not what I was saying at all. I really haven't played with bp in the akm this wipe so I can't speak to it but if the recoil is not much different from ps than I'll be running bp akm late wipe I was on the ps akm train then the recoil and ammo changes are making me want to run 5.56. What I was saying is that comparing what ammo you can run out of 5.56 mid wipe compared to 7.62 and the recoil changes makes the 5.56 more viable to me. Higher pen and RPM with the A1 compared to PS. I'm not pleased with how the akm feels compared to even an m4 now as well. Other weapons had their recoil improved a lot more than the AKM's. But the MDR is very nice imo. Peacekeeper is my boy apparently.
@@Teajam 5.45 platforms also feels really really good. Significant improvement on the U. Might be my new go to for factory. It is actually worth collecting and using the BP and BT you find. I have like 700 BP (woods) or so I was waiting till I had 1000 to sell but I'll probably burn em.
There's like 5 different comments about this failed caliber already. We get it. 300 blackout is a .308 projectile in a slightly modified 5.56 case, still dumb and useless caliber
Disagree. The Aug still has atrocious horizontal recoil and you WILL die more using it than the scar or mdr because of missed shots you can not compensate for.
AK-101 and 103 have always been my go to when i want to take a good AK into a raid. Also folks don't skip the charging handle + the recoil pad for that cheap extra ergo!
About to comment this! Why would I use a gun that I have to put more effort into maybe getting kills when I can use the 101 with my 42-46 depending on how I build it and have it actually be good out the gate. But if those want to play with the other guns let them have fun. I'm not here to tell anyone how to play the game
it's a shame they nerf the gun so much just because of the .300 AAC round. But if you'd ask me, what they should do is make the m4 handguards interchangeable with the MCX's just like in real world. Just add a different barrel to accommodate this option.
.300blk vs 5.56(.223) is one way compatible. You can shoot 5.56 down a .30 cal suppressor but not the other way round. You can also chamber an AR15 in .300blk and I'm hoping they eventually add multiple barrels and calibers ala the mutant. At least let us put the MCX upper on an AR lower.
Yeahhhhhh now with the 101 having 11 dispersion its going to be ridiculous. Its really unfortunate there's not a high capacity mag available, but that would pretty much make it a no-brainer I suppose. Thanks for the video!
@Gigabeef the reason .300blk isnt compatable with 5.56 is just bullet diameter. Its a 7.62 bullet shoved into a 5.56 case. hence why there is a M62 tracer in the .300blk ammo. Alot of the suppressors in game are multicaliber so they can be used on from anything it max internal diameter or smaller. which most of them in game are .308/7.62mm some are .338/8.6mm or even .45/11.43mm (DT hybrid). But you could shoot anything threw it as long as its smaller than the max internal diameter of the suppressor. Sig is also just an asshole and use a propiratary taper system on their barrels so you have to buy a seperate mount to mount any other suppressor that would fit it. There are other caviaots IRL that come into effect like the amount of pressure the muzzle flash and the volume of gas the rounds has etc that allow a suppressor to do it job properly. You cant put a 9mm ospry can on a .338 lapua jsut because the bullet will fit down it, it would not hold up to the pressure. there is also a difference between rifle rated and magnum rated as well as full auto rated suppressors. Not all suppressors in game are full auto rated so they will start to cause malfunctions to even break/pop from all the extra pressure & heat IRL when shot full auto. While normal rifle rated suppressors wont handle magnum calibers like .338 lapua mag even though they would fit and work perfectly fine bullet size wise. Magnums typically have a much larger powder load or general volume of gunpowder which make higher pressure which causes increased wear and tear on a suppressor. IRL you will get suppressor with a "up too (x)caliber" rating where you can shoot that caliber jsut fine and never have to worry about issues. that "up to caliber" is typically the most commonly/easlily compabile caliber. IRL its normally the typical magnum calibers like .300 win mag/PRC/NORMA mag or .338 win mag/lapua mag/NORMA mag or jsut .50BMG.
oh and btw this video is 3 weeks ago ? and btw up till now there was ak103 ON TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN DOMINATING THE ENTIRE GAME with M4 and HK"s dafq you messing with
I would imagine the reason you can't use most 5.56 suppressors with a .300blk is that they're different diameter bullets, the .300blk is basically a 7.62mm bullet (the actual bullet itself), stuffed into a 5.56 case (look at the neck of the case in game, it barely has one) - it was designed to give good "stopping power" at short to medium ranges and be suppressed, all while being able to use a standard AR-15/M4 lower/magazines and only have to swap the upper. Cool caliber, but AFAIK that's why you can't use dedicated 5.56 suppressors, they're literally not big enough. If I'm correct that's really good attention to detail on the part of BSG... if I'm wrong... well, I'm used to that :)
Yep 300blk is a 7.62nato/.308 bullet in a necked up 5.56nato case. Should take standard AR10(7.62 Nato) muzzle devices. Basically American 7.62x39 Warsaw lol. Nearly identical performances.
I really wish BSG would nerf first shot recoil on a lot of guns. I understand their auto-recoil system is supposed to replicate real life, but any trained shooter knows that the first shot in a string of automatic fire doesn't kick THAT much, especially with intermediate cartridges like 5.56 and 5.45.
My only complaint now about the MCX is that you can't use it loud. Of course if you really wanted to you could, but it is much worse without the suppressor and it is one of the best sounding guns loud. Otherwise, I've been loving the changes BSG has been making.
I think one of the most slept on weapons is the AK-102. With the aggressor handguard, RVG (foregrip), RRD (muzzle break), 6G15U butt-pad you can get something like 60 ergo and 45 recoil. Although sometimes the aggressor is hard to get a hold of, I like how short it is. Works well in tight spaces like factory or inside the resort of shoreline.
Giga does not care much for the 102 vs the 101 but your point is mostly valid. Best in class handguard for the 102 can be had on the flee market which is not the case for the 101 and both are usually cheaper.
Finally, they are tweaking the guns. Mdr still king but for bang for buck, 101 has always been better, easily dropping recoil to the low 40s. Glad to see people use it again
Even mid range m4's feel so good now, that's all I have been running. Mcx is awesome on factory for pmc kills. Scar feels even better than it did last wipe. Hard to use the Aug or the g36 over any of those
to be honest I still rather run a good adar over m4.. yes m4 is easy kill up close but there is something about tapping people instead of spraying. 150k adar ftw
Hey Gigabeef, it is nice and dandy showing of and nerding about stuff. Just a shame no casual player can’t run them. We are forced to use Boltaction in the 30ish mids to get the stupid sniper skill and if not boltaction then it hase to be a ADRA, AKM, AKSU, Shotgun etc. all the stupid dressup tasks. I don’t know, maybe I’m just frustrated. I have decided weeks ago, that this will be my last wipe. I will play until march and help a friend, then I’m leaving and probably not returning. This game is so flawed on so many levels from my casual perspective. This particular wipe shows it best. Even one podcast episode can’t summerise it. My prepared “I’m leaving tarkov” letter has already over 5 pages.
"Five weapons that are way better now... but still horrendous" The AUG's dispersion and horizontal is about as bad as the current UMP nerf. Which is terrible.
Seeing that awesome ak-101 build and keeping the AKMN in mind I wish there was a muzzle break/silencer combo for 5.45 AK’s other than reactor/wafflemaker. Would be awesome to have something middle of the road on the way to the meta silencer build, running silencer on 5.45 AK’s doesn’t feel worth it til then.
300 blackout is nominally 7.62x35 so irl will work with any 7.62 suppressor, and being wider in diameter than 5.56 will not work with any 5.56 specific muzzle device.
The reason the MCX can't take 5.56 suppressors is because 300BLK has a much larger projectile diameter than 5.56. If the suppressor would even fit, then the bullet would destroy the suppressor.
The mcx can’t use regular 5.56 muzzle devices because the bullet is way thicker than 5.56, if you load blackout into a weapon that fires 5.56, you’ll have a good chance of it exploding your barrel.
@@demgainz2216 the projectile is the same diameter across 7.62x51, 54, 39 and 35. It's just the cartridge length that is different ie the bit the bullet sits in filled with gunpowder if that helps.
For the last build I believe there is a keymod foregrip that gives no recoil benefits but adds 10 ergo, might also be a consideration for extra ergo an is pretty cheap if I remember correctly
5.45 just suffers with low damage, that's always the issue. You can get just as good if not better performance from 5.56 so I tend to stick to that once I get M856A1
Sadly AKM still the most efficient with PS ammo I feel. Still can’t afford spraying 40k worth of ammo per mag with a 150k gun. Still using RFB with m61 and 366ap and Sks with BP. Still half cheaper than any mega build atm. Also why is the RPK feel so good? Number is not good, but recoil and spread feel so good even barely modded.
So the 300BLK is 30 caliber in diameter, or in metric 7.62mm in diameter. The 5.56mm diameter is 5.56. The hole/bore for the 5.56 suppressors is too small for the 7.62mm and would cuase a malfunction/ bullet would strike the suppressor if it were fired. However you may use a 7.62 suppressor on any caliber/MM sized bullet that is smaller (with in reason accounting for pressure differences) so like you can use a 7.62 Suppressor for 5.56mm gun. Caliber specific Suppressors typically make the gun quieter and suppress the flash better than a suppressor that's sized up.
At the start of the wipe with old recoil I only played Snipers. Recently found a video that's perfect for me rn by a small RUclipsr. For two guns each under ₽100k to ₽130k. Get a SAG-AK Short with the PWS CQB muzzle from the Flea, get another AK in that realm, like a AK-105, put the PWS onto it and Slightly mod it. The Sag honestly only needs a Surpressor (PBS-4 often the cheapest from AKS-74UB) and Scope (I like the Monstrum 2x). If you know the video/youtuber, comment it under me. I just yesterday snacked two LVL40's as Solo against their UMP and Mosin. They also had a fully modded SV-98. There was also a Air Drop. 50kg, 7k Exp through Scavs. Got 600k in Loot. I love Woods. Never get out of there with less than ₽300k
It's physically impossible for the MCX to be compatible with 5.56 suppressors. The MCX is chambered in .300 blackout. The dimensions of the round are 7.62x35mm, and a 7.62mm projectile will not fit down a 5.56mm bore.
.300 blackout is of course .3 of an inch, while 5.56 is .223 of an inch so if they wanted to add more suppressors to the mcx they would need to use 7.62 suppressors and a muzzle adaptor as 7.62 is .308
love the content! Does anybody know whats wrong with .366 TKM AP-M? Such good stats but people are not dying to it somehow, unless its a headshot. At least for me
Bullpups make zero sense in this game. They should have higher ergo in general to replicate the main reason why they exist in real life - much better mobility as a result of shorter overall length and the weight of the gun being balanced at the center vs on both ends. The draw back should be weight and otherwise it should be in line with recoil for those specific ammo types.
So glad they made these changes. Used the shorty g36 and decked SCAR last wipe and had okay success but they were overall just not that good even though I was enjoying them. Now I can use really cool guns and they will actually compete in price to performance! If you want something with better recoil for the G36 you can run the longer 480mm barrel, the bipod, and the saker ASR which has really solid recoil
Remember the NT-4 supressor! Raiders and Rogues spawn with that one all the time so it's always between 20-30k on the flea, super good, super cheap and better than the mini monster
crazy how they can make the game 100x more fun to play by just changing some values
tweak the scav accuracy through bushes
dont do that
funny how they ruin it them self then revert and tweak it and now everyones happy
Yuuuup if only I wasn’t running into duos and trios EVERY fucking raid bro it’s so annoying being solo
@@gio7264 if you run, obv you run into someone. Walk and people wil *run* into you
The mcx is incompatible with 556 muzzle devices because .300 blackout bullets have a bigger diameter, not to mention the difference in thread pitches between said devices and the barrel
AK's are beams right now so I'm just running them. Been acquiring tons of BS rounds and those things decimate people it's great
yes dude especially the ak 101, the availability of m856a1 is soooo good
gigabeefs gun breakdowns are POG. best in the biz
Ty!
I feel that the akm now is trash. The other guns improved greatly compared to it. 5.56 feels loads better we have access to a1 after cultists or whatever from peace keeper. It's a great round. All I've been using is the akm for mid wipe and I'm switching over to mdar/adar. It's strange. It appears there's a timeline coming together that makes the 5.56 platform viable in tarkov. M80 and BP changes are another reason I'm falling into 5.56. I can run decent a1 ammo. I can't run anything but ps in 7.62 which is a decent round but I'll take that a1 at this point in the wipe. I really am surprised to see this though. Never thought I'd go 7.62 to 5.56 and most likely back to 7.62 when I get BP in a wipe. It's been 7.62 only for a while for me.
It's definitely not trash at all. BP is arguably the best ammo in the game. The other guns needed major changes to be able to compete with it with their lower damage ammo. This is the most balanced the guns have been in a long time. Multiple calibers actually feel viable as opposed to nothing but 7.62x39 and 7.62x51
@@meandab saddly m80 is too hard to get. I think 5.56 is the strongest ammo in the game an I appreciate they buffed the cool guns that use them. 5.45 is strong because how easy it is to get decent ammo for it. Honestly that 5.56nato ak should be the meta. Ak74 low recoil stats with great ammo. I think they buffed the AKS_74Us its not hard to get them with high ergo and really low recoil currently
@@meandab No BP is meta. Not what I was saying at all. I really haven't played with bp in the akm this wipe so I can't speak to it but if the recoil is not much different from ps than I'll be running bp akm late wipe I was on the ps akm train then the recoil and ammo changes are making me want to run 5.56. What I was saying is that comparing what ammo you can run out of 5.56 mid wipe compared to 7.62 and the recoil changes makes the 5.56 more viable to me. Higher pen and RPM with the A1 compared to PS. I'm not pleased with how the akm feels compared to even an m4 now as well. Other weapons had their recoil improved a lot more than the AKM's. But the MDR is very nice imo. Peacekeeper is my boy apparently.
@@Teajam 5.45 platforms also feels really really good. Significant improvement on the U. Might be my new go to for factory. It is actually worth collecting and using the BP and BT you find. I have like 700 BP (woods) or so I was waiting till I had 1000 to sell but I'll probably burn em.
.300 blackout uses the same projectile as 762x51
No it is not
@@cartergerman2860 care to back that up? M62 300blk is a m62 projectile in a 300blk case in game.
There's like 5 different comments about this failed caliber already. We get it. 300 blackout is a .308 projectile in a slightly modified 5.56 case, still dumb and useless caliber
nope its 762x35 where as the bullet itself is 0.05mm less in diameter
@@BloodxSoulZ i have no idea what youre talking about. I can cite the lyman reloading manual if you really want me to but it doesnt matter in the end
If I get on and my beloved AK handgaurd is 30k I'm gonna be rattled
Disagree. The Aug still has atrocious horizontal recoil and you WILL die more using it than the scar or mdr because of missed shots you can not compensate for.
cheeriooooo
I cringed so hard when I saw the recoild of that G36🤢
this gun is still trash
At least you can get some ergo now rather than both recoil AND ergo being bad lol
6 recoil for 14k is a steal btw lol
Makes a huge change for the G36 too honestly
Lmao paying extra money to lose so much ergo
Facts
@@epidemicstudios recoil over ergo anytime
@@bik3r230 meh, I'd rather have the ergo & just tap at range
AK-101 and 103 have always been my go to when i want to take a good AK into a raid. Also folks don't skip the charging handle + the recoil pad for that cheap extra ergo!
About to comment this! Why would I use a gun that I have to put more effort into maybe getting kills when I can use the 101 with my 42-46 depending on how I build it and have it actually be good out the gate. But if those want to play with the other guns let them have fun. I'm not here to tell anyone how to play the game
Getting a free 1 (later 2) ergo for a handful of rubles is awesome
@@a_catfish5180 there’s no +2 ergo charging handle, the CSS is +3
i saw someone testing the g36 The KV adjustable stock 6 recoil may not seem like much but in the shooting range it made a huge difference.
Same here while watching LVNDMARK. Tried it myself as well and yeah it's def a big change.
g36 is god tier budget pvp weapon but hopefully the playerbase never realizes it and it stays dirt cheap
@@Tarrabah psssht delete this comment
Plus you can get a better silencer to help a little more
@@Tarrabah G36 is fucking straight garbage full kit will still go straight to the ceiling
excited to try the MCX some more, one of my favorite looking guns in the game that was almost useless because of its old recoil
still really really garbage mate pls don't bother lol... even with m62 horrible
Not to mention the low ergo… thought the whole point of the gun was supposed to be its easy handling 😂
The ammo is the big issue with it
it's a shame they nerf the gun so much just because of the .300 AAC round.
But if you'd ask me, what they should do is make the m4 handguards interchangeable with the MCX's just like in real world. Just add a different barrel to accommodate this option.
Used it for one raid and sold it. Still ass
since they are fine-tuning when will they make sights equally viable and not just the eotech
.300blk vs 5.56(.223) is one way compatible. You can shoot 5.56 down a .30 cal suppressor but not the other way round. You can also chamber an AR15 in .300blk and I'm hoping they eventually add multiple barrels and calibers ala the mutant. At least let us put the MCX upper on an AR lower.
A man can dream...
Keep up the good work mate! Great content as always and a very pleasant personality as well!! Wish you the best!
Thanks!
Yeahhhhhh now with the 101 having 11 dispersion its going to be ridiculous. Its really unfortunate there's not a high capacity mag available, but that would pretty much make it a no-brainer I suppose. Thanks for the video!
@Gigabeef the reason .300blk isnt compatable with 5.56 is just bullet diameter. Its a 7.62 bullet shoved into a 5.56 case. hence why there is a M62 tracer in the .300blk ammo. Alot of the suppressors in game are multicaliber so they can be used on from anything it max internal diameter or smaller. which most of them in game are .308/7.62mm some are .338/8.6mm or even .45/11.43mm (DT hybrid). But you could shoot anything threw it as long as its smaller than the max internal diameter of the suppressor. Sig is also just an asshole and use a propiratary taper system on their barrels so you have to buy a seperate mount to mount any other suppressor that would fit it.
There are other caviaots IRL that come into effect like the amount of pressure the muzzle flash and the volume of gas the rounds has etc that allow a suppressor to do it job properly. You cant put a 9mm ospry can on a .338 lapua jsut because the bullet will fit down it, it would not hold up to the pressure. there is also a difference between rifle rated and magnum rated as well as full auto rated suppressors. Not all suppressors in game are full auto rated so they will start to cause malfunctions to even break/pop from all the extra pressure & heat IRL when shot full auto. While normal rifle rated suppressors wont handle magnum calibers like .338 lapua mag even though they would fit and work perfectly fine bullet size wise. Magnums typically have a much larger powder load or general volume of gunpowder which make higher pressure which causes increased wear and tear on a suppressor. IRL you will get suppressor with a "up too (x)caliber" rating where you can shoot that caliber jsut fine and never have to worry about issues. that "up to caliber" is typically the most commonly/easlily compabile caliber. IRL its normally the typical magnum calibers like .300 win mag/PRC/NORMA mag or .338 win mag/lapua mag/NORMA mag or jsut .50BMG.
oh and btw this video is 3 weeks ago ?
and btw up till now there was ak103 ON TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN DOMINATING THE ENTIRE GAME with M4 and HK"s
dafq you messing with
AKS-74U is way more controllable too. i've been having a lot of fun slapping a 94rnder mag on that bad boy.
Cracking guide Beef. Liking the informal style of video too! You do informal and informative very well!
Are you Gigas cousin?
@@Ottobon Nope, us being UK Tarkov content creators is all we have in common, oh and appearing on Scav Talk! 🤘
yes 556 suppressors dont work for 300blk. 300blk is a 7.62x51 projectile inside a 556 case.
I would imagine the reason you can't use most 5.56 suppressors with a .300blk is that they're different diameter bullets, the .300blk is basically a 7.62mm bullet (the actual bullet itself), stuffed into a 5.56 case (look at the neck of the case in game, it barely has one) - it was designed to give good "stopping power" at short to medium ranges and be suppressed, all while being able to use a standard AR-15/M4 lower/magazines and only have to swap the upper. Cool caliber, but AFAIK that's why you can't use dedicated 5.56 suppressors, they're literally not big enough. If I'm correct that's really good attention to detail on the part of BSG... if I'm wrong... well, I'm used to that :)
Yep 300blk is a 7.62nato/.308 bullet in a necked up 5.56nato case. Should take standard AR10(7.62 Nato) muzzle devices. Basically American 7.62x39 Warsaw lol. Nearly identical performances.
You would be correct. Can't fire a .30 cal round through a .22 cal hole without causing some problems.
.300 blackout needs 9mm and 7.62 suppressors. The bullet diameter is .308(7.8mm). It's a 7.62x39 but slightly shorter case.
7:25 .300 blk shoots at 7.62 projectile so you need to use 7.62 surpressors.
The .300BO has to use 7.62 suppressors, or it’s supposed to. It is bigger than a 5.56x45 round.
Mcx is .300 bo which is 7.62x35 in millimeters
Which is y only 7.62 barrel attachments are awailable
I really wish BSG would nerf first shot recoil on a lot of guns. I understand their auto-recoil system is supposed to replicate real life, but any trained shooter knows that the first shot in a string of automatic fire doesn't kick THAT much, especially with intermediate cartridges like 5.56 and 5.45.
FFS g36 never had problems with ergo WHAAA
My only complaint now about the MCX is that you can't use it loud. Of course if you really wanted to you could, but it is much worse without the suppressor and it is one of the best sounding guns loud. Otherwise, I've been loving the changes BSG has been making.
that g36 is still terrible
I think one of the most slept on weapons is the AK-102. With the aggressor handguard, RVG (foregrip), RRD (muzzle break), 6G15U butt-pad you can get something like 60 ergo and 45 recoil. Although sometimes the aggressor is hard to get a hold of, I like how short it is. Works well in tight spaces like factory or inside the resort of shoreline.
Giga does not care much for the 102 vs the 101 but your point is mostly valid. Best in class handguard for the 102 can be had on the flee market which is not the case for the 101 and both are usually cheaper.
600 rpm instead of 650 makes the recoil feel even less aswell, makes it pretty shit in close range though compared to anything that fires faster
Finally, they are tweaking the guns. Mdr still king but for bang for buck, 101 has always been better, easily dropping recoil to the low 40s. Glad to see people use it again
I'm glad you show recoil without controlling it too I think that is very important
Even mid range m4's feel so good now, that's all I have been running. Mcx is awesome on factory for pmc kills. Scar feels even better than it did last wipe. Hard to use the Aug or the g36 over any of those
to be honest I still rather run a good adar over m4.. yes m4 is easy kill up close but there is something about tapping people instead of spraying. 150k adar ftw
@Jerba Ancap I'd rather Uninstall then use an ADAR lol.
Hey Gigabeef,
it is nice and dandy showing of and nerding about stuff. Just a shame no casual player can’t run them. We are forced to use Boltaction in the 30ish mids to get the stupid sniper skill and if not boltaction then it hase to be a ADRA, AKM, AKSU, Shotgun etc. all the stupid dressup tasks. I don’t know, maybe I’m just frustrated. I have decided weeks ago, that this will be my last wipe. I will play until march and help a friend, then I’m leaving and probably not returning. This game is so flawed on so many levels from my casual perspective. This particular wipe shows it best. Even one podcast episode can’t summerise it. My prepared “I’m leaving tarkov” letter has already over 5 pages.
"Five weapons that are way better now... but still horrendous" The AUG's dispersion and horizontal is about as bad as the current UMP nerf. Which is terrible.
Seeing that awesome ak-101 build and keeping the AKMN in mind I wish there was a muzzle break/silencer combo for 5.45 AK’s other than reactor/wafflemaker. Would be awesome to have something middle of the road on the way to the meta silencer build, running silencer on 5.45 AK’s doesn’t feel worth it til then.
.300 blackout is a 7.62 bullet in a 5.56x45 case that has the throat opened up. That's why 5.56 attachments do not fit. It needs 7.62 attachments.
Informal but very good! Please do more of these
300 blackout is nominally 7.62x35 so irl will work with any 7.62 suppressor, and being wider in diameter than 5.56 will not work with any 5.56 specific muzzle device.
AK-101, you've sold me on it
The reason the MCX can't take 5.56 suppressors is because 300BLK has a much larger projectile diameter than 5.56. If the suppressor would even fit, then the bullet would destroy the suppressor.
The mcx can’t use regular 5.56 muzzle devices because the bullet is way thicker than 5.56, if you load blackout into a weapon that fires 5.56, you’ll have a good chance of it exploding your barrel.
300 black out and 7.62x51 should use the same suppressors, but if I remember right, Sig has a proprietary muzzle and tread combination.
Hey Gigabeef the 300 blackout is 7.62x35 in metric so that's why the suppressors are different than 5.56
i thought 7.62 was .308 like 7.62x51, unless .300 blackout is .308 for some reason.
@@demgainz2216 the projectile is the same diameter across 7.62x51, 54, 39 and 35. It's just the cartridge length that is different ie the bit the bullet sits in filled with gunpowder if that helps.
@@frugalpeasant3530 I know, but 7.62 is .308 no .300
Thanks for the video, as always very interesting! Looking forward to the AK-101 video in particular!
DUDE there wasnt any problem with sig mcx
two words: content 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For the last build I believe there is a keymod foregrip that gives no recoil benefits but adds 10 ergo, might also be a consideration for extra ergo an is pretty cheap if I remember correctly
The reason .300 BLK barrels are not compatible with 5.56 muzzle devices is because .300 is a bigger caliber than 5.56
300blk uses a 7.62mm bullet instead of 5.55 which is why you can't use those suppressors
This is probably the worst g36 build you can make. Don’t do the g36 such injustice like this
MCX is better but literally no reason to use it. Shit unaccessible ammo, shit recoil.... bummer.
thiiiiss is the content that keeps me coming back, please keep up the good work.
Mcx isn’t 5.56 which is why the 5.56 suppressors aren’t compatible lol
Leave it to Giga to show a bunch of absolute trash builds that only Timmy's will run and die with.
You beautiful man!
u guys really love beef huh, even have a drink made of beef water.. LOL wow, terrible name dude..
I'm impressed you made that g36 build and didn't at any point make cod4 jokes
G36 looks pure trash haha my ak's are straight better in every way ......
Thx professor 😁but we play for fun 😁
Ergo mad overrated
I throw the key mod foregrip on the Krebs because no one takes it. Lol.
Finally something about the Mighty MCX.
i run 101 all the time, things is insane, and 6a1 is good enough
i wish bsg would tweet what the player base is mainly using for guns
like they did in earlier wipes
im honestly disgusted that barrel length doesnt effect pen chance
Always amazing content, Gigabeef! would love to see a video from you on how good 5.45 is this wipe.
5.45 just suffers with low damage, that's always the issue. You can get just as good if not better performance from 5.56 so I tend to stick to that once I get M856A1
8 hours later and the Ak-103 is 50k :D
Sadly AKM still the most efficient with PS ammo I feel. Still can’t afford spraying 40k worth of ammo per mag with a 150k gun. Still using RFB with m61 and 366ap and Sks with BP. Still half cheaper than any mega build atm. Also why is the RPK feel so good? Number is not good, but recoil and spread feel so good even barely modded.
So the 300BLK is 30 caliber in diameter, or in metric 7.62mm in diameter. The 5.56mm diameter is 5.56. The hole/bore for the 5.56 suppressors is too small for the 7.62mm and would cuase a malfunction/ bullet would strike the suppressor if it were fired. However you may use a 7.62 suppressor on any caliber/MM sized bullet that is smaller (with in reason accounting for pressure differences) so like you can use a 7.62 Suppressor for 5.56mm gun. Caliber specific Suppressors typically make the gun quieter and suppress the flash better than a suppressor that's sized up.
At the start of the wipe with old recoil I only played Snipers.
Recently found a video that's perfect for me rn by a small RUclipsr. For two guns each under ₽100k to ₽130k.
Get a SAG-AK Short with the PWS CQB muzzle from the Flea, get another AK in that realm, like a AK-105, put the PWS onto it and Slightly mod it. The Sag honestly only needs a Surpressor (PBS-4 often the cheapest from AKS-74UB) and Scope (I like the Monstrum 2x).
If you know the video/youtuber, comment it under me.
I just yesterday snacked two LVL40's as Solo against their UMP and Mosin. They also had a fully modded SV-98.
There was also a Air Drop. 50kg, 7k Exp through Scavs. Got 600k in Loot. I love Woods. Never get out of there with less than ₽300k
It's physically impossible for the MCX to be compatible with 5.56 suppressors.
The MCX is chambered in .300 blackout. The dimensions of the round are 7.62x35mm, and a 7.62mm projectile will not fit down a 5.56mm bore.
.300 blackout is of course .3 of an inch, while 5.56 is .223 of an inch so if they wanted to add more suppressors to the mcx they would need to use 7.62 suppressors and a muzzle adaptor as 7.62 is .308
I just love your videos.
Cheers!
1 300blk out round would explode a 556 gun
I appreciate the perspective on these guns
love the content! Does anybody know whats wrong with .366 TKM AP-M? Such good stats but people are not dying to it somehow, unless its a headshot. At least for me
Guys pls stop talking about 101.
Can someone explain why AK-101 is better than MDR 5,56? :)
Better recoil in general - lower horizontal, better vertical with mods. Bit more money though
Just so you know, if you had 50 vertical and 150 horizontal recoil two different weapons it would still be different overall values
Bullpups make zero sense in this game. They should have higher ergo in general to replicate the main reason why they exist in real life - much better mobility as a result of shorter overall length and the weight of the gun being balanced at the center vs on both ends. The draw back should be weight and otherwise it should be in line with recoil for those specific ammo types.
So glad they made these changes. Used the shorty g36 and decked SCAR last wipe and had okay success but they were overall just not that good even though I was enjoying them. Now I can use really cool guns and they will actually compete in price to performance!
If you want something with better recoil for the G36 you can run the longer 480mm barrel, the bipod, and the saker ASR which has really solid recoil
the horizontal recoil on the G36C used to be so bad... I CAN PLAY MY BABY 😭😭😭😭
300BC is a 7.62 bullet in a 35mm case (7.62x35) . This is why you can t use 5.56 suppressors
Aug just isnt good even after the changes
Now everyone using my favorite gun since patch 0.12. :D atleast ak101 is still cheap on mechanic
you can get the aug to 50recoil and 138 hor with the new muzzle and its so much better then you dont miss
I always have and always will make the 4 vent. I just flea the shit and don't care about price personally
RPK once again forgotten and abandoned.
what do you mean by "pull down"? Pull the mouse down when shooting?
To control recoil yeah
when you said the vector has horizontal recoil i clicked off the video lol
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it makes me so happy that theres more than 4 meta guns now
mate there are still a few meta guns, meta will always be there. everyone is playing 556 now with a few weapons.
you make great videos! I hope BSG will add some good beef as your item.
Some Gigashonka
Thanks :)
Should use hera arms foregrip on mcx, for the stat it provides its dirt cheap since its picky on what stuff it can be put on to
Remember the NT-4 supressor! Raiders and Rogues spawn with that one all the time so it's always between 20-30k on the flea, super good, super cheap and better than the mini monster
Not better for ergo though, which is why I end up using the mini all the time
Headeyes
How has the recoil changes effected carbines not seen many vids on the after the change and not had chance to find out thanks to quests
Surprised you don’t have firing range leveled up
Ha me too... forgot about it lol