@@Scoobydoo12147 Sounds very smart, especially coming from a person who doesn't know the difference between the possessive adjective 'your' and the contraction, 'you're'. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mirandahotspring4019 to tell someone that they aren't respecting themselves is being disrespectful, then you need to take some time to reflect deeply on how you come to terms with being okay with yourself.
@@Cloudking1 A real God has no hatred. Sad. Abrahamic religions are based off fear of going to Hellfire and Judgement Day. That if you reject God, then you'll go to Hell. It's always "Fear God" but never "Love God". Your entire religion is copied from previous traditions such as Egyptian, Greek, and Roman mythology. Wish people would open their eyes and realize this religion was not directly from God. Proud that I left Christianity.
It is possible to pay money and not obtain any value while you believe said value existed. Arrogance/attitude you contain before the transaction has the ability to block you from receiving said benefit. 🐻⬇
@@zepeda201 it has always been... it has power in rhetoric. This is not a new thing. People murdered in public execution Socrates because they didnt like his arguments, many powerful men debated him and felt humiliated so they executed him and crowd cheered and were in favor of execution.
@@BridgeTROLL777 Socrates was charged with impiety because he openly rejected the gods and inspired disrespect of his youthful followers to authority. Even if I might disagree he broke the laws of the time. Big difference between a young adult whose feelings are hurt because of the wrong pronouns being used & getting someone fired for it!!
@@Sapphire979 There was alot in the socrates case and its exactly the same.... People got offended because he logically made his case based on his philosophy. Powerful saw him as a threat and used convenient excuse. Not using pronouns is also against the rules in many institutions, not that i personally think it warrants people getting fired thats draconian. But if you bow down to rules and hierarchies blindly you should respect that. If I remember correctly during the trial of Socrates public got super offended when socrates compared himself to olympian athletes and told them he deserved the same treatment as olympuc athlete winners since he taught people to think, as a consequence public demanded harsh punishment...
Yes sincere ignorance is not a desirable state to be in and it can be cured through education. Now it’s conscientious stupidity that there is no cure for because that’s based on persistent lying.
@@wafflegod6661it seems to me like you haven’t read the gospels saying you aren’t much of a “reader”. I strongly recommend reading all of the scriptures and then making a logical argument on why these teachings are wrong. Peace to you mane 🤟🏼🤟🏼
Honestly its not that hard to accept jesus is the only way , i never believed for 30+ years met my wife at 28 who was a christian , never bothered me that she believed in god , each to thier own was my attitude but after listening to her speak about it like cliffe does in these vids , it opened my mind , made a lot of sense more sense than anythjing else in this world , then when she asked me to church , the feelings i had i cant even explain , but from that day ive been a born again christian , got baptised few months ago , jesus is king AMEN . Open your mind and your hearts and read the bible go to church it will change your life , i promise ❤❤❤
The first section, made my head hurt. They don’t understand the true concept of love. Love is to, be there for the person and to support them despite what they’ve done. Loving someone is to help them correct their mistakes.
The students are young therefore they have a narrow view of life because they haven’t lived. They are setting themselves up as more righteous. Self righteousness is a sin.
This section made my heart hurt when those people lacked compassion. If you don't agree with someone you isolate them and don't help them? That will literally make them continue on the path they are on.
Jesus Christ is the Way, Truth, and Life, turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. Jesus Christ will receive you, He will help you, He will deliver you, but you must let Him. Jesucristo es el Camino, la Verdad y la Vida, apártate de tus malas acciones antes de que sea demasiado tarde. Jesucristo te recibirá, Él te ayudará, Él te liberará, pero tú debes dejarlo.
Cliff said " The only way you can have a free will is if there is more to you then a chemical reaction. If your just a chemical reaction your not free. " brilliant ! After i gave it some thought I loved it.
@@Andrew-pv8oz natural science denies existence of free will with the same certainty as gravity existing. If universe is deterministic there is no free will, if its not deterministic.but there is some quantum random process there is no free will either. Absent of "magic" there is no free will. Your habbits are series of "decissions", which are not choises at all since free will doesnt exist. You habe the same anount of free will as piece of rock or tornado. But paradoxically belief in free will and agency in your daily life is super benefiscial even though its a delusion. Thats why i believe in it in my daily life but when i analyze world i toss out such fantastical notions.
@@Jesus_IsGood-Christ it does at the most fundamental level. Brain is just chemistry, cause and effect. Every "decissions" is just a sum of causes and effects (lawd of physics) Doesnt matter if universe is deterministic or not (that is, is quantum physics governed by laws or is it random?) as long as there is no "magic" free will is impossible. You have either determinism or some underlying randomnes that tosses you around the universe. We have as much free will as tornadoes, volcanoes or rocks.
God had cliffe there to save that young man with the long hair! Everyone there but You can see when someone is slowly changing their minds about not following god. These videos are so beautiful
Jesus Christ is the Way, Truth, and Life, turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. Jesus Christ will receive you, He will help you, He will deliver you, but you must let Him. Jesucristo es el Camino, la Verdad y la Vida, apártate de tus malas acciones antes de que sea demasiado tarde. Jesucristo te recibirá, Él te ayudará, Él te liberará, pero tú debes dejarlo.
" Do not say that you’re afraid to trust your mind because you know so little. Are you safer in surrendering to mystics and discarding the little that you know? Live and act within the limit of your knowledge and keep expanding it to the limit of your life." -Anonymous- from an Objectivist forum
The second clip is soo beautiful because of the respect both cliffe and the atheist produce towards eachother. This is how every kind of interaction between a theist and an atheist should be. 17:12
As a 19 year old “man”, it’s interesting to see how people my age have conversations with people. The rational mind is not there, as they are only focused themselves through their consciousness and emotions. They appear that they aren’t seeing life through another perspective. They justify how they feel with their emotions. But emotions are causes for such actions and mindset. I hope they all grow and continue to have dialogue with people they agree and disagree with and we can all learn from each other
The problem is they are trying to argue about something they know nothing about instead of listening. They not listening because they are afraid it will make sense and they have to admit two things God is right and I need to get right.
What. Lol. The only one moving on emotions in this video is Cliffe. I guess after having his beliefs professionally, methodically and meticulously stripped and dissected in adult debates such as those with the likes of people like Matt Dillahunty, he’s decided to drop the bar and let some kids kick him while hes down😂😂🎉
I just want to say I feel like people forget Cliffe is still a human lol I completely understand why Cliffe gets so upset sometimes because people literally just continue to not listen or understand what he’s saying.
They have a right not to listen. What if they don't want to listen to his religious babblings? What if they just want to live their lives without being preached to when they're out in public, unsolicited?
@@wafflegod6661Well, if they don’t want to listen to his “religious babbling” they can also just walk away. I mean, you did say they have a right to not listen. Ok then, then just walk away.
@@wafflegod6661You said that they have a right to not listen. Cool. So then just avoid it and walk past it. It’s really that simple. They have the right to not listen just as much as Cliffe has the right to be there to speak the truth. I mean, atheists will always tell Christians that if they don’t like something, then don’t listen to it or just walk away. Can we not say the same to atheists?
Yes correct!! and thats why it's the only logical answer. God is eternal otherwise you will be going into who created God, who created this etc etc and that would be also eternal also if peoples theory is that something has to come from something.😂 whereas God is eternal, always existed and had no beginning.
@@danshady09 God created the universe and in order to do that He has to be the power outside of the universe, outside of time , eternal. Man is inside looking at time which is linear for us we only know the past and don’t know the future but God being outside of time knows both. God is infinite knowledge and we are finite and infinitesimal in comparison. It’s almost laughable to see us go up against God and think we are a match for Him. It’s laughable until you realize all of that rebellion will cost you eternal separation from Him.
The universe could not have started from nothing because nothing doesn't exist. Those same people also claim there is nothing after we die. So if there was nothing before life and there's supposedly nothing after life, what would be the point in having life should there be no God to give life?
Honest astronomers and cosmologists don't claim the universe came from "nothing." They are continuing to analyze evidence to determine what the origins of the universe are. Perhaps matter and energy existed in some sort of overlapping state in the distant past, or some other exotic explanation. Who knows, but that is what they are working toward. Just because they don't have the answer yet doesn't mean God or the divine or supernatural forces are the default explanation.
You should know that the started from nothing is a made up strawman to promote religion and not based on science facts. It's also rather strange to make up a logical argument to try and prove that logic is wrong while magic is right.
@znail4675 I've heard several atheists claim that the universe started from nothing, and then the Big Bang happened. God being real is absolutely logical.
@@znail4675 We aren’t created by magic. Magic is what man does. God does creation. Now if you want to persist in the universe magically appeared by sleight of hand and it’s an illusion, we need to find you a good doctor. God is a creator and designer way beyond our comprehension because our comprehension is finite. We are infinitesimal in God’s universe but yet we are the objects of His affection. Now that ought to humble a person who isn’t a lover of themselves, who isn’t self serving and selfish.
@@gingercake0907 You got most things backwards. It's the Christian position that God created the world out of nothing. If you want to call this "Creation" instead of magic doesn't make it any less supernatural. Science doesn't support this so I am safe, but you do need a good doctor by your own account.
If something created time it cannot be in time and therefore cannot have a beginning or an end. Therefore if it created time and is not in time it therfore has to be ETERNAL because only time can end something. To have a beginning or an end means you have to be in time. If you took a person or a piece of fish out of time it would never change or grow old in any way, it would just be and always be the same. it would just always be. HENCE - "THE I AM " GOD
How does something exist outside of time? And what evidence is there that time was created? What's more, how do you go from saying that something created time and jump to the conclusion it was an all powerful thinking entity? You are making some sizeable assumptions about how the universe works now and how it worked before it existed.
@michaeldelaney1058 Look IT UP ! The universe is expanding, meaning time has a beginning. And science has already proven that there are many dimensions outside of time. Look it up. NOW CHECK THIS OUT ! TIME SPACE and MATTER have to come into existence at the same time. Reason shows that this is obvious. listen ! If you have MATTER without SPACE, where would you put it ? And if you have MATTER in SPACE, when was that matter in space ? Get it ? It's obvious that time space and matter must come into existence at the same time because u cant have matter without space or time.. The BIBLE ANSWERS this in the FIRST SENTENCE.. "In the beginning (TIME), GOD created the heavens ( SPACE) and the EARTH (matter). " 🤯.
@@wafflegod6661you don’t even know the first thing about an NFL offense and how that works….yet you KNOW there’s no god or sin? Surely you jest ….. The reproductive system in all mammals all over the globe male and female “evolved’ at precisely the same time in a 4.5 billion year old window….man I don’t have that much faith….
@@wafflegod6661Atheism definitely did you right by making you an internet troll hellbent on breaking solidity. Intellectual properties in humans have seriously declined.
I had a pastor once that said, 'if we're not friends with these folks (sinners, no matter severity, who will? It's our responsibility). What better place than hearing the gospel would suit the worst of the worst?'.
That's true. Even though 1+1=2 doesn't mean you will have 2 dollars. You need to put into work the math you know to make 2 dollars. Even if Math is eternal, you need a mind to create the math into something.
Iam happy to see so many youngsters ready to ask questions, and have the patience to hear about God and willing to debate and also to learn the truth, will it also happen in india, were we can interact with people about God and people have the patience to learn about the truth
Cliffe had the second atheist cornered, but missed the opportunity when discussing murder between tribes. To the response “no, the gangs are in the same city so the same tribe”. Following this logic, cliffe can rebutt: “say different cities! Different states! Different continents! Jesus Christ says that the tribe is humanity, we all need saving, and saving does not occur at the level of the individual, IE survival of the fittest.” This is one of my favorite tongue in cheek comments to make with seculars, because their own logic is inherently searching for moral absolutism, which they vehemently deny exists.
@gowdsake7103 really? I saw several of them unable to understand simple concepts then walk away in frustration. Some of us has weird definitions of "winning" I guess.
@@supercool32 He is not smarter. If he was, he wouldn't believe absurdity he spews. He is just prepared to debate, while they aren't. He literally started crying when Mat Dillahunty ripped him to shreds in proper debate.
5:12 Spark notes. “I don’t understand how you can preach for people to find their way, and then also be friends with them and push for turn to find their way”
Why would a body that was created from nothing,need to rest,eat and sleep lol..A body made that evolved from nothing wouldnt have needed to sleep,eat or rest lol…Let alone have feelings and a guilty conscience 🤭
That's one of the most ignorant things i have ever heard of course it would need to eat seeing as energy is burned by any task that is done, being that humans are social animals it makes perfect sense as to why we would have feelings or feel guilty
@asmodeus5326 so if that is the case then if life evolved from simple life forms, how did these life forms survive. Did these simple life forms go around eating and drinking. I could be wrong but is scientists assuming these simple life forms stayed alive for billions of years slowly evolving. If a human changes in size in just 21 yrs from baby to adult, that's a pretty significant change. So why assume that life would need billions of years to change. The problem is time. If the average human lives to around 70 plus yrs and dies , then how could these simple life forms stay alive for millions of yrs.
@@morelions4014 Yea I mean if we take you or I, any human, lion whatever it may be right we are active we have fat, muscle and everything that our body does. All that cause us to burn a lot of energy so we have to consume a certain amount to regain strength back. Now if you take these microorganisms they wouldn't burn energy like us so they wouldn't have to eat I doubt drinking as a thing for them but any case they would require a lot, they would have no preditors. Also if you take into account of the environment in which they began it was extremely harsh. Not sure why you are trying to base life length of those organisms then and billions of years would be needed evolution doesn't happen over night it also has no plan so if a mutation had mutated different at some point we wouldn't even be here now. I wish people would really take the time to learn this stuff because it is so fascinating and you can have your faith and believe evolution plenty of scientists do
Kids need better education. Without moral values based on Judea-Christian values education seems empty. I remember when we were kids, we had moral education as a paper in every classes.
@@wafflegod6661 if there's literally proof of the truth, how is it a waste of time? I think you are just scared of your world view behind turned upside down....because that's what happens when we deprogram the propaganda we've been fed from birth.
It's pretty real. It's one thing to have a debate with "knowledgeable" people, than to have a convo with general people. I like that he can do both. Nice
@@mirandahotspring4019 Personal insults aren't "campaigning for ignorance". May I suggest you refrain from personal attacks so ppl will treat your following takes as being rational and not emotional. In that way, ppl will take your answers more seriously 👍🏾.
@@w4bm892 You are free to suggest anything you like and I am free to ignore or accept suggestions and post whatever I like. People are free to take my posts however they like and I am free to not care less for however they take them. This is a RUclips comments section and no one (other than RUclips moderators) has the right to dictate what anyone else posts. If you feelings are hurt you have every right to feel that way, and I have every right to not care less. Your sense of hurt and any sort of feeling of entitlement coming from that doesn't give you the right to impose your will over others!
6 minutes in. Cliff, in this moment I think it’s crucial to remind the new generation that friendship doesnt mean only agreeing with one another. We are taught today that you have to fit into a group and if you don’t agree you can’t be friends.
At 13:18 it really opened my eyes to understanding everything that I've read about God being the beginning, end and everything in between. His life is never ending, and Cliffe took the blindfold off of my eyes. Legit sat in my chair for a solid couple minutes and thought about how dumb I was to ever question God's beginning. All these years of me just kind off fluffing it off and saying "yeah, I get it" I never truly understood the gravity of that statement until now. God bless you all!
While I was in college, I knew a guy that rationalized that he was an atheist. However, in reality he was confused. His question was which religion was right and he was trying to decide if it was Christianity or Judaism. Fast-forward 6 or 7 years later, I worked with a guy that called himself an atheist but in reality he got mad at a youth pastor and walked away from the church. My point is that there are those who call theirselves atheists when in reality they actually believe in the existence of God.
7:20 that is exactly the kind of reaction that's going to make things worse. You don't say, "Hey man, I think you're on the edge of becoming a really bad person, Imma let you work it out." That'll leave them alone in their darkest moments and might even help that reality come to fruition.
Imagine every sin being a water balloon filled with red paint. And everyone was wearing white shirts. At the end no one has a clean shirt We are all sinners
Give me one effective valid reason they gave. Don’t say science because God didn’t use science to create the universe. He didn’t explore and find processes that cause the universe to run smoothly, He created the processes and told Adam and Eve to name things. It’s Adam and Eve that need the scientific method to do that. Mankind will never debunk God, they may continue not to exercise faith in Him but that is not debunking God that’s just being a fool. “ The fool has said in His heart, there is no God.” Psalms 53:1. “ For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” 1 Corinthians 1:18.
wow the righteous indignation of the girls @9:35 is insane... @50:21 Atheist's do not listen to themselves, it's like an NPC trying to dialog itself...
So glad I am not in high school nor college now. When I was in COLLEGE I was not waisting my time with being a student of ANALOGY or all knowing (from the internet). HAHAHA I WAS EXPERIENCING LIFE. Choosing on my OWN instead of a Collective what I agree with or not agree with🤪
I feel sad for these kids! The lack of teachings of our Lord! But, seeing this big crowd! How they are respectful and are listening, provoking thought in them!❤
The commercial on the radio said, "children under 5 get in free ". So,when I tell them that I identify as a 4 year old child ? They had best better let me in for free !
How can you say you're into seeking truth if you don't have a reason when you say sex and gender aren't different" What's the difference? "Sex is your reproductive organs and gender is a social construct" Social construct is subjective. Truth is objective. You can't base truth on a subjective matter. Done.
19:30 completely different circumstances. They didnt grab kids directly out of college, put a rifle in their hands and have them in the war zones in under 24 hrs. They put them through training and helped make them able to withstand combat. Remember the same generation that went to war freaked out about people with a darker skin tone drank from the same water fountain or sat at the same counter as them.
Multiverse simply moves the first cause problem back. All the same issues for the first cause of a single universe continue. You still cannot have an effect (eg, in the beginning of the multiverse) without a cause. First, that cause would still have to be in effect. Second, if there is no multiverse yet, there's no space and no time in which the cause can occur. Whatever the first cause was, it violated causality. So you can choose a personal supernatural first cause such as God or you can choose an impersonal supernatural widget.
If someone throws out "something from nothing" and shrouds it with heavy science, consider this: It is a blind man who feels the Sun of his face, and says that warmth comes from nothing, once a day for 12 hours at a time.
@@AlCapwnd-tb5ow Maybe you wanted me to elaborate on my personal belief of how he made everything into the form we see today. I too am an evolutionist Christian. Although, I'll admit that I believe it is equally likely that he created everything in such a way that objects were created with a history despite not having actually happened, similar to the concept that we could have been made in a lab yesterday and preprogrammed with our memories (I do not believe this), but instead, God could have made all with a preprogrammed history that now plays out in real time. I say this because the passage of all of time before the existence of mankind is essentially useless information except for its use toward the scientific method and our intellectual growth.
Great vid. I'm a devout athiest but i was taught Jesus as others were taught Muhammad, i wonder what was there before. We was, that much i know. Was there writing on the walls?. Were we forgotten before these books were wrote?..
It is impossible for anyone to feel anything they’re not. I’m short. I can put on 8 inch platform shoes and see the world from a different perspective than the one I’m used to, but not a tall person’s perspective. I’d still be seeing it from my perspective, a short person with tall shoes. I’d only know how it feels to be a short person with tall shoes, not a tall person. And simply by saying “I’m a tall person” doesn’t change the reality of my situation.
So, even if a multi-verse exists, that doesn’t get rid of the evidence of God. It would still need to have a creator. Because it would not have come out of nothing either. Nothing cannot create something.
The problem with Cliffe is that he never speaks about spiritual warfare which will truly help his listeners understand why they think the way they think etc etc. etc.
I was an atheist when I started watching this video and I remain an atheist after finishing the video. Nothing Cliffe said convinced me that his position is correct.
@@michaeldelaney1058 I appreciate your honesty in sharing your perspective. However, as a christian, I firmly believe that faith in God and Jesus Christ is essential for salvation and a fulfilling life. While it's evident that the video didn't change your beliefs, consider this analogy: writing a book. A book requires an author who meticulously crafts the story and brings it to life. Similarly, the existence of our universe and the intricacies of life point to a divine Creator, rather than mere nothingness. I encourage you to continue seeking the truth and remain open to the possibility of a higher power. Remember, even the most ardent skeptics have found their way to faith through personal experiences and encounters with God's love. I pray that one day, you too, may come to know the joy and peace that comes from accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
I must say as an agnostic I truly enjoyed Cliffe Knechtle arguments and I think he is trying to show his view in a respectful way instead of in hate. But I still personally remain an agnostic because to me there are still a few questions to which I am convinced humans do not have one solid answer. One of them that I found myself asking and I would have asked to Cliffe at the 28:14 point in this video where Cliffe states " You never get nothing from something." I simply ask all of you and Cliffe himself if this statement is true where does God himself come from?
Well, we would say that God is the self existent One. God is eternal. God did not create Himself. This is probably a silly and ridiculous analogy, but does a baking sheet of cookies have an origin? Who made and created the cookies? Well, the simple answer is a baker. I do understand your question, and it’s a good one. However, the answer is much more simpler than you think. God is eternal. No one can fully understand His ways. This might not fully satisfy your question, but not everything has to be so complicated.
When he is talking about his friends that are sinners i feel that growth for the human species comes from understanding it's not about us it's about breaking cycles for future generations. Without understanding and if we just lay hate on each other for sin's it can condemn the sinner to repeat the same sin. We all desire to be good deep down but when we are condemned it can feel like that's all we ever will be so the sin is more likely to repeat itself and the cycle will continue on to others more.
Cliffe is explaining the definition of respect. The cancel culture does not understand what respect is, and that is the problem with my generation.
The label "cancel culture" he's putting on them shows he has little or no respect for them! Why should they show him any?
@@mirandahotspring4019oh get real bro your the problem
@@Scoobydoo12147 Sounds very smart, especially coming from a person who doesn't know the difference between the possessive adjective 'your' and the contraction, 'you're'. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well aren't you wiser than yours years.☝️Seems to be the latest stupid trend. "Cancel Culture"= "I am God." ☝️um! No. You are not. 👎😎
@mirandahotspring4019 to tell someone that they aren't respecting themselves is being disrespectful, then you need to take some time to reflect deeply on how you come to terms with being okay with yourself.
Love the sinner hate the Sin
Nah. Dont hate at all son
Where in the Bible said God hates sin and love sinners. The Bible said the God is angry with sinners everyday and he not even hears their prayers.
Sinners love sin, and not God.
@@Cloudking1 A real God has no hatred.
Sad. Abrahamic religions are based off fear of going to Hellfire and Judgement Day. That if you reject God, then you'll go to Hell. It's always "Fear God" but never "Love God". Your entire religion is copied from previous traditions such as Egyptian, Greek, and Roman mythology. Wish people would open their eyes and realize this religion was not directly from God.
Proud that I left Christianity.
@@NewCreationInChrist896are you love god
How is it possible to pay 100 grand for an education and NOT learn how to listen and actually understand what people say?
When you think it will magically bring you more money and happiness.
It's not about education, it's about indoctrination.
Evidence says it is not only possible , but evident
It is possible to pay money and not obtain any value while you believe said value existed. Arrogance/attitude you contain before the transaction has the ability to block you from receiving said benefit. 🐻⬇
Being offended is very popular in the present time
@@zepeda201 it has always been... it has power in rhetoric. This is not a new thing.
People murdered in public execution Socrates because they didnt like his arguments, many powerful men debated him and felt humiliated so they executed him and crowd cheered and were in favor of execution.
@@BridgeTROLL777 wow, that's sad
@@zepeda201 such is human ego... And yes I agree it is sad.
@@BridgeTROLL777
Socrates was charged with impiety because he openly rejected the gods and inspired disrespect of his youthful followers to authority. Even if I might disagree he broke the laws of the time. Big difference between a young adult whose feelings are hurt because of the wrong pronouns being used & getting someone fired for it!!
@@Sapphire979 There was alot in the socrates case and its exactly the same....
People got offended because he logically made his case based on his philosophy. Powerful saw him as a threat and used convenient excuse.
Not using pronouns is also against the rules in many institutions, not that i personally think it warrants people getting fired thats draconian. But if you bow down to rules and hierarchies blindly you should respect that.
If I remember correctly during the trial of Socrates public got super offended when socrates compared himself to olympian athletes and told them he deserved the same treatment as olympuc athlete winners since he taught people to think, as a consequence public demanded harsh punishment...
Ignorance is the worst disease ever
This preacher proves it by himself
Yes sincere ignorance is not a desirable state to be in and it can be cured through education. Now it’s conscientious stupidity that there is no cure for because that’s based on persistent lying.
Read : The Closing of The American Mind by Allan Bloom. Really good.
@@gatica72 I'm not much of a reader, but a quick skim through the basics, and I feel mixed
@@wafflegod6661it seems to me like you haven’t read the gospels saying you aren’t much of a “reader”. I strongly recommend reading all of the scriptures and then making a logical argument on why these teachings are wrong. Peace to you mane 🤟🏼🤟🏼
Honestly its not that hard to accept jesus is the only way , i never believed for 30+ years met my wife at 28 who was a christian , never bothered me that she believed in god , each to thier own was my attitude but after listening to her speak about it like cliffe does in these vids , it opened my mind , made a lot of sense more sense than anythjing else in this world , then when she asked me to church , the feelings i had i cant even explain , but from that day ive been a born again christian , got baptised few months ago , jesus is king AMEN . Open your mind and your hearts and read the bible go to church it will change your life , i promise ❤❤❤
Beautiful, brother. She was praying for you big time.
Praise to The Lord of Hosts!! Welcome brother 🙏
It's hard if you actually think about it
@wafflegod6661 yeah it is when your being dismissive , like I said open your mind and heart read the bible and go to church , then come back to me
@@treborrennob1290I know the Bible, I've been to church. I was Christian. But now I see
The first section, made my head hurt. They don’t understand the true concept of love. Love is to, be there for the person and to support them despite what they’ve done. Loving someone is to help them correct their mistakes.
The students are young therefore they have a narrow view of life because they haven’t lived. They are setting themselves up as more righteous. Self righteousness is a sin.
This section made my heart hurt when those people lacked compassion. If you don't agree with someone you isolate them and don't help them? That will literally make them continue on the path they are on.
Nah that's just what you define loves love is an emotion like sad angry happy and so on
@@Bubbamcray no hate like Christian love
@@addictedtomints9433couldn’t agree more
You can tell these people just WANT to mock and misunderstand.
Yeah its a bit sad. Im an atheist but that kind of discourse is toxic and revealing of peoples insecurities and hurt.
Jesus Christ is the Way, Truth, and Life, turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. Jesus Christ will receive you, He will help you, He will deliver you, but you must let Him. Jesucristo es el Camino, la Verdad y la Vida, apártate de tus malas acciones antes de que sea demasiado tarde. Jesucristo te recibirá, Él te ayudará, Él te liberará, pero tú debes dejarlo.
@@GodtrulylovesyouallAmen
@@Godtrulylovesyoualllol no
Amen
Cliff said " The only way you can have a free will is if there is more to you then a chemical reaction. If your just a chemical reaction your not free. " brilliant ! After i gave it some thought I loved it.
Except the science shows 90% of the time you’re operating on subconscious programming and habits.free will is kind of debatable
What about animals ?
@@Andrew-pv8oz natural science denies existence of free will with the same certainty as gravity existing.
If universe is deterministic there is no free will, if its not deterministic.but there is some quantum random process there is no free will either.
Absent of "magic" there is no free will.
Your habbits are series of "decissions", which are not choises at all since free will doesnt exist. You habe the same anount of free will as piece of rock or tornado.
But paradoxically belief in free will and agency in your daily life is super benefiscial even though its a delusion. Thats why i believe in it in my daily life but when i analyze world i toss out such fantastical notions.
Im pretty sure operating in your brain isnt contradicting free will?
@@Jesus_IsGood-Christ it does at the most fundamental level.
Brain is just chemistry, cause and effect. Every "decissions" is just a sum of causes and effects (lawd of physics)
Doesnt matter if universe is deterministic or not (that is, is quantum physics governed by laws or is it random?) as long as there is no "magic" free will is impossible.
You have either determinism or some underlying randomnes that tosses you around the universe. We have as much free will as tornadoes, volcanoes or rocks.
God had cliffe there to save that young man with the long hair! Everyone there but You can see when someone is slowly changing their minds about not following god. These videos are so beautiful
Jesus Christ is the Way, Truth, and Life, turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. Jesus Christ will receive you, He will help you, He will deliver you, but you must let Him. Jesucristo es el Camino, la Verdad y la Vida, apártate de tus malas acciones antes de que sea demasiado tarde. Jesucristo te recibirá, Él te ayudará, Él te liberará, pero tú debes dejarlo.
Lol no
" Do not say that you’re afraid to trust your mind because you know so little. Are you safer in surrendering to mystics and discarding the little that you know? Live and act within the limit of your knowledge and keep expanding it to the limit of your life."
-Anonymous- from an Objectivist forum
The second clip is soo beautiful because of the respect both cliffe and the atheist produce towards eachother. This is how every kind of interaction between a theist and an atheist should be. 17:12
Cliff is one of my favorites on debates
As a 19 year old “man”, it’s interesting to see how people my age have conversations with people. The rational mind is not there, as they are only focused themselves through their consciousness and emotions. They appear that they aren’t seeing life through another perspective. They justify how they feel with their emotions. But emotions are causes for such actions and mindset. I hope they all grow and continue to have dialogue with people they agree and disagree with and we can all learn from each other
The problem is they are trying to argue about something they know nothing about instead of listening. They not listening because they are afraid it will make sense and they have to admit two things God is right and I need to get right.
What. Lol. The only one moving on emotions in this video is Cliffe. I guess after having his beliefs professionally, methodically and meticulously stripped and dissected in adult debates such as those with the likes of people like Matt Dillahunty, he’s decided to drop the bar and let some kids kick him while hes down😂😂🎉
yeah dude theyre like npcs in a video game, programming is real. thats where they go to campus
I just want to say I feel like people forget Cliffe is still a human lol I completely understand why Cliffe gets so upset sometimes because people literally just continue to not listen or understand what he’s saying.
They have a right not to listen. What if they don't want to listen to his religious babblings? What if they just want to live their lives without being preached to when they're out in public, unsolicited?
@@wafflegod6661Well, if they don’t want to listen to his “religious babbling” they can also just walk away. I mean, you did say they have a right to not listen. Ok then, then just walk away.
@@katierucker2870 they shouldn't have to avoid those places just because he feels like preaching to strangers in public
@@wafflegod6661You said that they have a right to not listen. Cool. So then just avoid it and walk past it. It’s really that simple. They have the right to not listen just as much as Cliffe has the right to be there to speak the truth. I mean, atheists will always tell Christians that if they don’t like something, then don’t listen to it or just walk away. Can we not say the same to atheists?
@wafflegod6661 omg cry harder that someone is trying to spread what they believe is the best example of love and care that exists
"BMW from explosion in a junkyard"...perfect.
😂😂😂
Would've made a good episode in Sanford and Son.
If something has a beginning, then it also has an ending. So in that case God is eternal.😊
Yes correct!! and thats why it's the only logical answer. God is eternal otherwise you will be going into who created God, who created this etc etc and that would be also eternal also if peoples theory is that something has to come from something.😂 whereas God is eternal, always existed and had no beginning.
@@Unknown-j7d6kI don't know how you deem that to be the only logical answer but okay.
@@danshady09 God created the universe and in order to do that He has to be the power outside of the universe, outside of time , eternal. Man is inside looking at time which is linear for us we only know the past and don’t know the future but God being outside of time knows both. God is infinite knowledge and we are finite and infinitesimal in comparison. It’s almost laughable to see us go up against God and think we are a match for Him. It’s laughable until you realize all of that rebellion will cost you eternal separation from Him.
@@gingercake0907 I believe in one less god than you. Your rebellion against other religions might cost you eternal separation from their gods.
They always run away when faced with the facts
No, they just get bored when confronted with nonsense!
@@mirandahotspring4019 Then why are they there then wasting their time on nonsense? What’s the point?
@@BJtheMountaineerguy To earn a living on RUclips. Because they believe their own nonsense.
@@mirandahotspring4019 I’m talking about the atheists, why are they there wasting their time if they believe it’s nonsense? Make it make sense
@@BJtheMountaineerguy Combatting ignorance!
Keep teaching and preaching brother
The universe could not have started from nothing because nothing doesn't exist. Those same people also claim there is nothing after we die. So if there was nothing before life and there's supposedly nothing after life, what would be the point in having life should there be no God to give life?
Honest astronomers and cosmologists don't claim the universe came from "nothing." They are continuing to analyze evidence to determine what the origins of the universe are. Perhaps matter and energy existed in some sort of overlapping state in the distant past, or some other exotic explanation. Who knows, but that is what they are working toward. Just because they don't have the answer yet doesn't mean God or the divine or supernatural forces are the default explanation.
You should know that the started from nothing is a made up strawman to promote religion and not based on science facts.
It's also rather strange to make up a logical argument to try and prove that logic is wrong while magic is right.
@znail4675 I've heard several atheists claim that the universe started from nothing, and then the Big Bang happened. God being real is absolutely logical.
@@znail4675 We aren’t created by magic. Magic is what man does. God does creation. Now if you want to persist in the universe magically appeared by sleight of hand and it’s an illusion, we need to find you a good doctor. God is a creator and designer way beyond our comprehension because our comprehension is finite. We are infinitesimal in God’s universe but yet we are the objects of His affection. Now that ought to humble a person who isn’t a lover of themselves, who isn’t self serving and selfish.
@@gingercake0907 You got most things backwards. It's the Christian position that God created the world out of nothing. If you want to call this "Creation" instead of magic doesn't make it any less supernatural. Science doesn't support this so I am safe, but you do need a good doctor by your own account.
If something created time it cannot be in time and therefore cannot have a beginning or an end. Therefore if it created time and is not in time it therfore has to be ETERNAL because only time can end something. To have a beginning or an end means you have to be in time. If you took a person or a piece of fish out of time it would never change or grow old in any way, it would just be and always be the same. it would just always be. HENCE - "THE I AM " GOD
Well put brother. Amen
How does something exist outside of time? And what evidence is there that time was created? What's more, how do you go from saying that something created time and jump to the conclusion it was an all powerful thinking entity? You are making some sizeable assumptions about how the universe works now and how it worked before it existed.
@michaeldelaney1058
Look IT UP ! The universe is expanding, meaning time has a beginning. And science has already proven that there are many dimensions outside of time. Look it up. NOW CHECK THIS OUT !
TIME SPACE and MATTER have to come into existence at the same time. Reason shows that this is obvious. listen !
If you have MATTER without SPACE, where would you put it ? And if you have MATTER in SPACE, when was that matter in space ? Get it ? It's obvious that time space and matter must come into existence at the same time because u cant have matter without space or time.. The BIBLE ANSWERS this in the FIRST SENTENCE..
"In the beginning (TIME), GOD created the heavens ( SPACE) and the EARTH (matter). " 🤯.
Time exist in relation to a physical mechanical world /cosmos ,electrons stop ,time stops.-a new dimension happens.
The South African guy's argument is the perfect example of why South Africa's pass rate should not be 30% 😅
Please more videos like this! Best complication I’ve seen
gender and sex aren’t the same but trans people change their sex on their ID/ Drivers license to match what gender they identify as
Right!
Make it make sense!
Oops they can’t.
SMDH
First girl wanted to believe that her sin wasn’t as bad as others. Too bad God doesn’t grade on a curve.
Too bad neither sin nor god are real
@@wafflegod6661you don’t even know the first thing about an NFL offense and how that works….yet you KNOW there’s no god or sin? Surely you jest …..
The reproductive system in all mammals all over the globe male and female “evolved’ at precisely the same time in a 4.5 billion year old window….man I don’t have that much faith….
@@wafflegod6661😂😂😂
@@wafflegod6661Atheism definitely did you right by making you an internet troll hellbent on breaking solidity. Intellectual properties in humans have seriously declined.
As Jesus was tortured and nailed to the cross he said forgive them father for they know not what they do.
"And I hope you find him also"... What a comeback!
36:50 shoutout to my fellow sunbro wearing the dark souls shirt (although he is yet to embrace the real sun in our lives Jesus Christ!)
Thanks for the video.
Great teacher cliff may the LORD continuing giving you wisdom and understand in to do HIS work !
I had a pastor once that said, 'if we're not friends with these folks (sinners, no matter severity, who will? It's our responsibility). What better place than hearing the gospel would suit the worst of the worst?'.
Cliffe is the man!!!
When he talked about loving your enemies, I imagined the Pharisees having that same reaction when Christ spoke in the Sermon on the Mount
That's true. Even though 1+1=2 doesn't mean you will have 2 dollars. You need to put into work the math you know to make 2 dollars.
Even if Math is eternal, you need a mind to create the math into something.
He got there! "I do not know" must be the wisest statement ever uttered by man.
May Lord guide us all with his almighty power and live our life for our saviour JESUS CHRIST in our whole life❤❤
New sub, need long videos, 5 hours or more lol
Iam happy to see so many youngsters ready to ask questions, and have the patience to hear about God and willing to debate and also to learn the truth, will it also happen in india, were we can interact with people about God and people have the patience to learn about the truth
Cliffe had the second atheist cornered, but missed the opportunity when discussing murder between tribes. To the response “no, the gangs are in the same city so the same tribe”.
Following this logic, cliffe can rebutt: “say different cities! Different states! Different continents! Jesus Christ says that the tribe is humanity, we all need saving, and saving does not occur at the level of the individual, IE survival of the fittest.”
This is one of my favorite tongue in cheek comments to make with seculars, because their own logic is inherently searching for moral absolutism, which they vehemently deny exists.
Kids.. those girls were ridiculous. 🙏 for them.
What I appreciate most about cliff is he can strengthen your affirmation of belief through understandable resoning.
Title should be "Cliffe debates unprepared kids".
The kids are debating. Cliffe is having conversations.
Kids win tho
@gowdsake7103 really? I saw several of them unable to understand simple concepts then walk away in frustration. Some of us has weird definitions of "winning" I guess.
kids that wanted to debate with him... it's not his fault he's smarter than them
@@supercool32 He is not smarter. If he was, he wouldn't believe absurdity he spews. He is just prepared to debate, while they aren't.
He literally started crying when Mat Dillahunty ripped him to shreds in proper debate.
Jesus Christ really will come back as so many souls do not believe there is God...Lord Jesus enlightened the atheists.
Why is it so hard for them to understand Cliffe's explanations? 😅😅
fr he even says it multiple times. they just want things to fit THEIR image and not the reality that is God's. we didn't choose Him. He chose us
5:12 Spark notes. “I don’t understand how you can preach for people to find their way, and then also be friends with them and push for turn to find their way”
Why would a body that was created from nothing,need to rest,eat and sleep lol..A body made that evolved from nothing wouldnt have needed to sleep,eat or rest lol…Let alone have feelings and a guilty conscience 🤭
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@@Johnamerson That’s not what this person is saying, he is not affirming evolution or something comes from nothing.
That's one of the most ignorant things i have ever heard of course it would need to eat seeing as energy is burned by any task that is done, being that humans are social animals it makes perfect sense as to why we would have feelings or feel guilty
@asmodeus5326 so if that is the case then if life evolved from simple life forms, how did these life forms survive. Did these simple life forms go around eating and drinking. I could be wrong but is scientists assuming these simple life forms stayed alive for billions of years slowly evolving.
If a human changes in size in just 21 yrs from baby to adult, that's a pretty significant change. So why assume that life would need billions of years to change. The problem is time. If the average human lives to around 70 plus yrs and dies , then how could these simple life forms stay alive for millions of yrs.
@@morelions4014 Yea I mean if we take you or I, any human, lion whatever it may be right we are active we have fat, muscle and everything that our body does. All that cause us to burn a lot of energy so we have to consume a certain amount to regain strength back. Now if you take these microorganisms they wouldn't burn energy like us so they wouldn't have to eat I doubt drinking as a thing for them but any case they would require a lot, they would have no preditors. Also if you take into account of the environment in which they began it was extremely harsh. Not sure why you are trying to base life length of those organisms then and billions of years would be needed evolution doesn't happen over night it also has no plan so if a mutation had mutated different at some point we wouldn't even be here now. I wish people would really take the time to learn this stuff because it is so fascinating and you can have your faith and believe evolution plenty of scientists do
Kids need better education. Without moral values based on Judea-Christian values education seems empty. I remember when we were kids, we had moral education as a paper in every classes.
More like 58:18 min of Cliffe…
This man is bringing me closer to faith
Preach the Cross.😊❤
Thank you Jesus ..he opened my eyes..He changed my life..love. From India ❤❤❤Amen..Everyone read the Bible..
Who taught this younger generation that man can be woman and vice versa?
Well, it wasn't an old book written by weirdos, so that's a start atleast
I think you'll find answers to that and many more questions in the documentary: In The Name of Zion.
@@camlong89 if you think I'm ganna waste 6 hours 22 minutes of my life watching something that has no effect on or answers for me, you're wrong
@@wafflegod6661 if there's literally proof of the truth, how is it a waste of time? I think you are just scared of your world view behind turned upside down....because that's what happens when we deprogram the propaganda we've been fed from birth.
It's pretty real. It's one thing to have a debate with "knowledgeable" people, than to have a convo with general people. I like that he can do both. Nice
Christians would greatly benefit from the research of Bible scholars/theologians with PhD’s…not clergy. There’s a huge difference. ❤️☀️
This was so good! I especially liked his explanation regarding the proof of God. I love listening to his explanations. What a wonderful man!
You re soo great talking with locos people ❤❤❤
And Cliffe is certainly loco!
@@mirandahotspring4019 You're replying to everyone for some reason. Are you sure you're okay 🥺😢?
@@w4bm892 I'm fine, I'm a campaigner against ignorance.
@@mirandahotspring4019 Personal insults aren't "campaigning for ignorance". May I suggest you refrain from personal attacks so ppl will treat your following takes as being rational and not emotional. In that way, ppl will take your answers more seriously 👍🏾.
@@w4bm892 You are free to suggest anything you like and I am free to ignore or accept suggestions and post whatever I like. People are free to take my posts however they like and I am free to not care less for however they take them.
This is a RUclips comments section and no one (other than RUclips moderators) has the right to dictate what anyone else posts. If you feelings are hurt you have every right to feel that way, and I have every right to not care less. Your sense of hurt and any sort of feeling of entitlement coming from that doesn't give you the right to impose your will over others!
6 minutes in. Cliff, in this moment I think it’s crucial to remind the new generation that friendship doesnt mean only agreeing with one another. We are taught today that you have to fit into a group and if you don’t agree you can’t be friends.
Jesus is king an God bless trump
Trump’s going to need God and I hope he repents and asks for forgiveness.
AMEN!!!
Yikes dude
@@gingercake0907 I hope you do to
At 13:18 it really opened my eyes to understanding everything that I've read about God being the beginning, end and everything in between. His life is never ending, and Cliffe took the blindfold off of my eyes. Legit sat in my chair for a solid couple minutes and thought about how dumb I was to ever question God's beginning. All these years of me just kind off fluffing it off and saying "yeah, I get it" I never truly understood the gravity of that statement until now. God bless you all!
While I was in college, I knew a guy that rationalized that he was an atheist. However, in reality he was confused. His question was which religion was right and he was trying to decide if it was Christianity or Judaism.
Fast-forward 6 or 7 years later, I worked with a guy that called himself an atheist but in reality he got mad at a youth pastor and walked away from the church.
My point is that there are those who call theirselves atheists when in reality they actually believe in the existence of God.
Does anyone no the original date of the video with the bilogagist with the long hair and chill attitude
7:20 that is exactly the kind of reaction that's going to make things worse. You don't say, "Hey man, I think you're on the edge of becoming a really bad person, Imma let you work it out." That'll leave them alone in their darkest moments and might even help that reality come to fruition.
Imagine every sin being a water balloon filled with red paint.
And everyone was wearing white shirts.
At the end no one has a clean shirt
We are all sinners
I love how careful they are with their words, backing up their points with valid and effective reasons.
Give me one effective valid reason they gave. Don’t say science because God didn’t use science to create the universe. He didn’t explore and find processes that cause the universe to run smoothly, He created the processes and told Adam and Eve to name things. It’s Adam and Eve that need the scientific method to do that. Mankind will never debunk God, they may continue not to exercise faith in Him but that is not debunking God that’s just being a fool. “ The fool has said in His heart, there is no God.” Psalms 53:1. “ For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” 1 Corinthians 1:18.
I love the first group. Very kind
Goodnight brothers 🙏🏼
A mind is changed through compassion alone.
I love you cliffe ❤ keep it up 👍
wow the righteous indignation of the girls @9:35 is insane... @50:21 Atheist's do not listen to themselves, it's like an NPC trying to dialog itself...
If she "feels" like she is A, while I "feel" like she is B, while neither of us believe that both can be true, then, at least, one of us is wrong.
And if there are a lot of people who think she's B and only she thinks she's A, than the chance increases that she is actually B.
So glad I am not in high school nor college now. When I was in COLLEGE I was not waisting my time with being a student of ANALOGY or all knowing (from the internet). HAHAHA
I WAS EXPERIENCING LIFE. Choosing on my OWN instead of a Collective what I agree with or not agree with🤪
I feel sad for these kids! The lack of teachings of our Lord! But, seeing this big crowd! How they are respectful and are listening, provoking thought in them!❤
God came near in Jesus Christ.😊❤
We as humans are bound to be blinded by our egos.
If you know, You know.
The commercial on the radio said, "children under 5 get in free ".
So,when I tell them that I identify as a 4 year old child ? They had best better let me in for free !
I feel so bad for these kids. They are incapable of critical thought. They have been trained to refuse to measure the world around them.
dang was that the compete video of the “a bigger reality” pls give me title to full vid that was a good one
How can you say you're into seeking truth if you don't have a reason when you say sex and gender aren't different" What's the difference? "Sex is your reproductive organs and gender is a social construct" Social construct is subjective. Truth is objective. You can't base truth on a subjective matter. Done.
Miracles and healings in history.
19:30 completely different circumstances. They didnt grab kids directly out of college, put a rifle in their hands and have them in the war zones in under 24 hrs. They put them through training and helped make them able to withstand combat. Remember the same generation that went to war freaked out about people with a darker skin tone drank from the same water fountain or sat at the same counter as them.
Great point friend
The biology student was so respectful
At one time, Scientists used to believe Time & Space & Matter was eternal!!
I Definitely hit the subscribe button
Multiverse simply moves the first cause problem back. All the same issues for the first cause of a single universe continue. You still cannot have an effect (eg, in the beginning of the multiverse) without a cause. First, that cause would still have to be in effect. Second, if there is no multiverse yet, there's no space and no time in which the cause can occur.
Whatever the first cause was, it violated causality. So you can choose a personal supernatural first cause such as God or you can choose an impersonal supernatural widget.
That guy don't really care about the animals.. he just doesn't want to believe .. that is ignorance and pride
He might not play basketball like he used to, but Cliffe still dunks.
God has no beginning.
God is THE beginning!
If someone throws out "something from nothing" and shrouds it with heavy science, consider this:
It is a blind man who feels the Sun of his face, and says that warmth comes from nothing, once a day for 12 hours at a time.
@@AlCapwnd-tb5ow by speaking.
"Let there be light"
And there was light.
@@AlCapwnd-tb5ow Maybe you wanted me to elaborate on my personal belief of how he made everything into the form we see today.
I too am an evolutionist Christian.
Although, I'll admit that I believe it is equally likely that he created everything in such a way that objects were created with a history despite not having actually happened, similar to the concept that we could have been made in a lab yesterday and preprogrammed with our memories (I do not believe this), but instead, God could have made all with a preprogrammed history that now plays out in real time.
I say this because the passage of all of time before the existence of mankind is essentially useless information except for its use toward the scientific method and our intellectual growth.
@@AlCapwnd-tb5ow Say what you will, but existence is a paradox my friend.
In response to the question at 50:11 Baby, don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more! ♫
exactly
Great vid. I'm a devout athiest but i was taught Jesus as others were taught Muhammad, i wonder what was there before. We was, that much i know. Was there writing on the walls?. Were we forgotten before these books were wrote?..
It is impossible for anyone to feel anything they’re not. I’m short. I can put on 8 inch platform shoes and see the world from a different perspective than the one I’m used to, but not a tall person’s perspective. I’d still be seeing it from my perspective, a short person with tall shoes. I’d only know how it feels to be a short person with tall shoes, not a tall person. And simply by saying “I’m a tall person” doesn’t change the reality of my situation.
Yes! Everything is not chill anymore. Is time to get up and say no to that besetting sins through the help of Jesus by believing in Him.
This generation is so lost. I can’t even watch anymore.
I was disappointed you ended the video right there
So, even if a multi-verse exists, that doesn’t get rid of the evidence of God. It would still need to have a creator. Because it would not have come out of nothing either. Nothing cannot create something.
Jesus loves you, He wants to receive you, but if you deny Him, He will deny you.
The problem with Cliffe is that he never speaks about spiritual warfare which will truly help his listeners understand why they think the way they think etc etc. etc.
Maybe that's your gift, go and teach others what the Lord has given you.and put in into practice so you have the testimony to back your words up.
Today is the part that says 'good times make weak people'.
I wonder whoever is atheist is non-atheist after watching his video, that would be a shocker for anyone
I was an atheist when I started watching this video and I remain an atheist after finishing the video. Nothing Cliffe said convinced me that his position is correct.
@@michaeldelaney1058 I appreciate your honesty in sharing your perspective.
However, as a christian, I firmly believe that faith in God and Jesus Christ is essential for salvation and a fulfilling life.
While it's evident that the video didn't change your beliefs, consider this analogy:
writing a book. A book requires an author who meticulously crafts the story and brings it to life.
Similarly, the existence of our universe and the intricacies of life point to a divine Creator, rather than mere nothingness.
I encourage you to continue seeking the truth and remain open to the possibility of a higher power.
Remember, even the most ardent skeptics have found their way to faith through personal experiences and encounters with God's love.
I pray that one day, you too, may come to know the joy and peace that comes from accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
He also cannot be superman, because superman is an extra terrestrial and one of the last of his kind.
I must say as an agnostic I truly enjoyed Cliffe Knechtle arguments and I think he is trying to show his view in a respectful way instead of in hate. But I still personally remain an agnostic because to me there are still a few questions to which I am convinced humans do not have one solid answer. One of them that I found myself asking and I would have asked to Cliffe at the 28:14 point in this video where Cliffe states " You never get nothing from something." I simply ask all of you and Cliffe himself if this statement is true where does God himself come from?
Well, we would say that God is the self existent One. God is eternal. God did not create Himself. This is probably a silly and ridiculous analogy, but does a baking sheet of cookies have an origin? Who made and created the cookies? Well, the simple answer is a baker. I do understand your question, and it’s a good one. However, the answer is much more simpler than you think. God is eternal. No one can fully understand His ways. This might not fully satisfy your question, but not everything has to be so complicated.
he gives his answer to this question in the video
When he is talking about his friends that are sinners i feel that growth for the human species comes from understanding it's not about us it's about breaking cycles for future generations. Without understanding and if we just lay hate on each other for sin's it can condemn the sinner to repeat the same sin. We all desire to be good deep down but when we are condemned it can feel like that's all we ever will be so the sin is more likely to repeat itself and the cycle will continue on to others more.
Debating is very difficult work. It requires a lot of patience.