You keep saying this car lags behind the German competitors. For what it's worth, this is a great car and I will be getting one by the end of this year. What you fail to mention is after 10 years, the Lexus won't end up in the junkyard like it's "competitors".
Ammar Anwar every word i said is very true, and comes from experience. at the price point of the lexus you might as well get something that performs and breaks down than this uninspired slow turd of a car. if the german cars break down fuckin fix them, the jag breaks down i fuckin fix it, you cant afford to fix them then you shouldnt be buying cars in this price range. ill take performance and fun over reliability any fucking day, thats truth. lexus is reliable cause they limit what their cars can do, its not well built, they just stop you from having fun in them so theres less chance of breaking them. i hit 7k rpms on the way to the mail box, not a soul in sight, just for fun... when was the last time you red lined your lexus. do you even own a fuckin lexus or you just regurgitating someone elses opinions... cause thats pretty fuckin ignorant.
you want point a to point b in a comfortable manner buy a fuckin prius. these premium luxury cars are meant for performance as well as luxury. Lexus gives nothing to the performance, they dont even try. you want luxury take a look at the interior and ride of a svr, or an e class or 5 series, lexus' competitors all have the same or better luxury for the same price, BUT you also get the performance. what happens trueg404 that 1% of the time when you want to be dickhead, and you got nothin? atleast that option is there with lexus' competitors and if you only want to get to point a to b in a comfortable manner than you aint no TrueG, you are a true old lady.
Lexus GS is still a solid choice especially if you planning on keeping it for more than 4 years. I had a BMW X5 .... never again!!!!! You learn fast reliability should be at the top of factors when choosing your new car.
nykshtukasfishtank just traded in my empty money pit 2013 BMW X5 for a 2013 Lexus ES350, 1 owner with only 30k miles. Couldn’t be any more happier !! After 8 months of ownership of the X5 and nearly $1k it was time to get rid off it !!
My X5 gas needle stop working and odometer led screen completely went out after a rainstorm and never came back on. I now have a Ls430 with no problems.
So much hate on BMW but a lot of factors to determine. All you claiming BMW was unreliable what was the vehicle history ? How many owners? Was proper maintenance done? My friend purchased a used Lexus GS 350 2014 and it was a disaster. I've owned a few BMW in the past and never had major issues. I'm not a BMW fan boy had several brands in my life time just calling out the ignorance here
Thats what I'm looking for. When I test drive all these new cars, I can feel the computer doing the majority of the work. That "old school" feel is what I want.
Love love my '13 GS 350, will replace it eventually with a lightly use GS- F with the V8. Drove one hard and I am in Love, especially in Atomic silver with the circuit red interior.
Lol these comments r funny😂 but tbh..I got rid of my BMW 7 for a Lexus...I sure as hell miss the performance and handling in the Beamer..but the repair bills just kept coming..but not a single problem with my L..Guess u can say I value reliability over performance any day..
Kingdrosive 3 It's highly doubtful you owned both. If you want reliability with no performance, you should buy a Corolla/Camry. Otherwise, it makes no sense.
Анатолий Герман I’ve owned both..currently own a 2011 is350 Lexus and used to own a 2007 BMW 750..my old 750 had a lot of Cooling System Problems..the Beamer definitely doesn’t like to be driven daily..and my Lexus IS is pretty sporty oh and FYI it’s not hard to get a 7series..the real trick is being able to keep it...and seriously a corrola..I’m not rich but sure as hell can afford something a bit more expensive..get out more👍
I've got the same thing, just AWD. Completely agree, a lot of these people say Lexus can't make a car that handles well, but they have never driven one
how funny i had an is250 f sport back in 2015 as a lease and they gave me a gs as a loaner, i was shockedddddd itg hjandled so much better than the IS.
The mouse in my 2015 isn't so bad once you get used to it, and once you know how to use it you really don't need to use the mouse a whole lot. You have radio presents you can toggle through on the wheel and you can use the voice button to change stations - so most of the time you don't need the mouse.
Because german cars are on top of the list idiots, to who you want to compare lexus?? To Subaru? Honda? Infinity? Fking joke, next time see german cars inside in real and test drive them and you'see why they cost so much
I'm still more of an Audi guy myself, even though they're nowhere near as reliable. But I can't lie, I've legit had dreams of cruising in a luxury Lex all business suited up. That's just road faring paradise!
True story! Someone traded a 2013 gs350 for a 2019 gs350 f sport. If you drove both car you couldnt tell which one was newer because they are built rock solid. The suspension, engine and all sounded like he just unwrapped the car. He has been the owner of the 2013 gs350 since new. I assure you that you cant say the same about any german car on the road right now.
I totally agree! I bought a white on red 2016 GS350 F-Sport a couple years ago with 41k miles for $28k before taxes (original MSRP $58k) & it's been the best car ever! I seriously can't ask for a better car!
I’m gonna buy one of these, maybe a ‘15 model. Have an ‘09 Passat and love the way it drives. Bought it for cheap with only 109k miles but in the four months I’ve had it it’s been a German nightmare. Never another German car for me. Sure German cars have killer performance but they also kill you with repair bills and keep you poor. Lexus is luxury, sportiness and reliability. It’s not too much to ask for all three. Go with Lexus
So many haters, I would take this over any of it's competitors. Looks refreshingly great compared to the entire fleet of run of the mill BMW and E Classes.
That engine and 6 speed auto will last you years so thank you Lexus for thinking about that reliability aspect that its competitors don’t focus on as much. And that interior is still beautiful.
I completely disagree about the gauges!! Please keep simple non-LCD gauges. I don't want a damn computer screen just to tell me my speed and revs. It's useless complexity and causes excess glare at night.
@@MegaNOObxX I though I was the only one nauseated by these LCD gauges that will probably cost a small fortune to fix in 5-10 years. In addition they look fake, are laggy, and childish.
My Father has owned two Mercedes. Parts and maintenance are insane, not for me. Audi? Love the style my favorite German brand based in looks, scary reliability. And if I had a nickel for everyone who's told me they'll never buy a BMW again, I'd be retired. Lexus is luxury that just makes sense. You get reliability, luxury, value and resale.
I really want to like this car. But the competition is just so much better. I don't understand what's so hard to just tweak small things like the Germans do every year. How hard is it to offer an optional Pano moon roof? How hard is it update your graphics? To offer Apple/Android CarPlay, to offer cooled rear seats, to add 4g lte wifi, to redo the instrument cluster, to add AWD to the 200t models, to bump up the horsepower. The car doesn't need a redesign, just keep the updates consistent and feeling fresh. I'm a Lexus fanboy, but after seeing virtual cockpit to whatever this "Enformed" system is, I can't even recommend a Lexus over the competition. The G80 is even more advanced than this car, and that's just a refreshed Genesis.
@@SD61904 For $500 you can buy a factory integration unit and have a full android computer. I have it on my 11, it was actually an accessory in some markets. These are some of the best cars ever made, especially if you want to keep it long term. AWD too. I guess some people want planned obsolescence, unreliable german shit
@@SD61904 Yup, they are extremely underrated cars. And those 3.5L V6s? They are some of the most powerful NATURALLY ASPIRATED v6 engines on the planet. AND RELIABLE! And I get 23 MPG if I drive easy. BMW isn't even competition (I mean, I am also talking about keeping the car past its warranty period, even being reliable IN WARRANTY). My neighbor had a BMW and he only drives Lexus now. BMW also treats their customers like shit, and he had 5 cars from them. Hyundai is better to deal with. I tried BMW too and it is a wash which one is actually better.
pedro fernandez if a car is coming towards an officer or maybe hits someone or is following someone, that person can get their license plate number. If the police are looking for a vehicle in a crime and get the front on video, they have more than just the make and model of the car to go off of. It's actually really useful
pedro fernandez you literally did not comprehend my comment. I'm not talking about pulling people over. I'm talking about other situations in which you don't see the back of the car. Please re read my comment
OpticObsidiaN you need to do some research! Front plates are used so that police have a second object to shoot lazer or radar at to get your speed (second to headlights) both are reflective surfaces. Also, prisoners would loose half of their revenue if they would require using one plate. And lastly, most law enforcement departments can read your plate from any angle regardless even if you dont have a front plate. (Hence why many states dont require you have a front plate) I come from a small town with a small budget for their police department, and after they upgraded from crown vics to suburbans a few years ago, they gained that technology. So if my small town with a small budget has that advantage, that means many many more already have it.
You mention Lexus has two cars for the midsize segment, that used to be the case until the current model came out about two years ago. The ES is now in the Full size segment, same as the Toyota Avalon.
My coworker has a 2010 GS 350 and is thinking of upgrading, but he says he doesn't like the new styling of this one... Can't seem to find a good deal on a used pre-refresh one in the area either. I like the styling, personally, but it is obvious even the loyalists are capable of disliking it. Note, this is the guy who kinda helped steer me in the direction of Lexus - refusing to buy a new one. Nonetheless hopefully I will get to sample one of these at some point - I hear great stuff about the handling.
I’m very surprised you don’t like the auto in this car, my family has a 2017 GS350 AWD Premium and I think the Trans is one of the best features of it. The car shifts so fast and the paddles are almost instant even when driving the car 9/10. It handles amazingly and accelerates very good for its class. The ride is alright though and the non luxury seats are terrible. Other than that it’s a great car and I highly recommend it over its competitors because it’s a great value. Ours was $50k OTD and was decently loaded (58k MSRP.) Has everything except read seat controls, wood steering wheel, and 18 way seats. Way cheaper features for price than almost everything in class.
Tyler Beeson the transmission is just fine but once you experience the 8,9, and now 10 speed autos in the competition, you'll quickly notice the limitations of this older 6-speed in this car. It just shifts a lot slower and the gearing can knock the engine out of the meat of its power band.
Ok, I see what you mean. I have an 07' S550 with the old 7G-Tronic transmission and it can be a dog. Shifting at awkward times and slow shifts, so the Lexus' 6 Speed feels lightning fast for me. The 7G is good for full throttle though, it's very quick and tight, but half throttle and quick on and off confuses it. Tech has really advanced a lot in the drivetrain of cars in the past 10 years.
John Grabowski It used to be Camry based until the current generation. Although technically the Avalon, ES, and previous generation of Camry are all built on the Toyota K platform so they're all related.
No, it's not. ES is a Camry but obviously more luxurious. Both are FWD. Look at the 2018 ES and 2018 Camry SE/XSE, they are VERY SIMILAR. GS is RWD and stands as the mid size sedan between the IS and LS. Please know your cars before making a statement like that, which turns out to be inaccurate.
Good review. I think the slow sales can partially be attributed to this car's polarizing design. Lexus has stated that all their vehicles will employ love it or hate it styling. The problem with that approach is that once the pool of "love it" buyers is exhausted, no one else is going to buy the car. After my car got totaled a few months ago, I was in the market for a new one. It came down to the Lexus GS or Infiniti Q50S. I ended up getting the Q50 because I hated the look of the GS.
I just think that the competition moved too fast too quickly leaving a lot of Lexus cars uncompetitive. If it weren't for Lexus' reputation, I'd never even consider a Lexus at all. The A4 is just technologically light years ahead. Virtual Cockpit, 4G Lte, Heads up display, rear usbs, Pano moon roof, Apple CarPlay/Android Auto, superior navigation, HD radio, cooled rear seats. Also, Lexus offering their 200 models as RWD only really hurt sales. Not just that they are so underpowered, but I want a twin turbo, but live in bad weather conditions. The 300/350 doesn't make sense to me. After seeing Audi's virtual cockpit LCD cluster, seeing Infiniti's and Lexus' makes me cringe, which is a shame because they used to have the better interiors. I actually think the styling is the only thing Lexus is doing right.
Should of gotten the Genesis G80 311 horsepower and 293 Torque , goood power and value for your money ,, I really don't like that bland tailights , could of made it LED type ..
Miko The Genesis vehicles are nice and are a good value but the interior materials are so much cheaper than the competition. You can really tell where they've cut corners to make their "value". I'm not saying that they are bad or cheap cars because they're not but you get what you pay for. I'm interested to see how the Genesis turbo engines hold up once they start getting into higher mileage.
You are complaining that the gauge cluster is not a full LED display? You know that many people who want to keep a car long term hate those displays right? I strongly prefer the simplicity of analog gauges.
Redline Reviews This is the Sofyan I miss. Slow speaking, and able to enunciate precisely. Today's Sofyan speak as if it was his last breath, with a few mistakes in between. I am sure others have noticed.
I feel like Lexus needs to have a better HP with the 3.5L V6. The IS has 306 HP from 2006-2017. Tbh, the Infiniti Q50 Red Sport does better gas miles than the Lexus, with 400 HP. Lexus should remodel its vehicle, especially from 2012-2017 IS, they've had the same looking car for 4 years.
MJ Wild you hit the nail on the head. they can have better performance, higher torque and hp, the engine is very capable of it. this is lexus' single biggest fault. they limit what their cars can do to save on warranty repairs and to try and promote their "reliability" mystique. they know if they mapped and tuned that engine to produce 400 hp it would break down more, if they through a super charger in it it would be amazing, but that leads to more warranty repairs just like the german cars and the infiniti, they cop out on performance cause they think reliability is more important. its working for them they are numbert 2 behind mercedes right now so i dont want to shit on them too much, but if you are a performace guy, and want to be a boss on the road, dont buy a lexus, every single car in its respective class will out perform it.
Jaguar F-type I agree, but I'm just stating. I like Lexus cars, but having the same engine and body style for 4 years, kinda got repetitive. It would be nice to see a remodel of the car just a little. I noice the IS/GS was changed slightly for 2017, it looks nice and everything, but some things should have something new for every year. Maybe a new trip level.. maybe.
Most have actually not gotten the GS with AWD. Most are RWD. What is rare is rear wheel steering, which mine has. A GS with luxury package and AWD will most definitely not feel the sportiest. However, if you were to get the 8 speed RWD model with F sport package, this would've been a different video. The GS as far as interior tech may be behind its competitors because its essentially Lexus's first vehicle in the new era of spindle grill and it definetly shows its age. However, its is one of the better driving vehicles in the class, the most reliable, and yes the most polarizing as far as looks. If they do redesign the GS and I hope to God they do and not just give up on it, I'm pretty confident that it will receive the new twin turbo motor from the new LS, its interior and exterior will be upgraded and it will again be at the top of its class like it once was.
I have a 2015 GS350 w/ the 3.5L V6, 8 speed transmission (not 6), AWD, fully loaded.....and it freakin' flies. I absolutely love it. Have to agree with you about the damned mouse; a royal pain. Never try to use it while driving......ever.
test drove the new E class avantgarde.its noisy,vibrates alot and jerky with the 9 speed g-tronic.sorry benz but i will be keeping my problem-free 6 yr old GS.
@@Oneofakind91 Agreed! I have a 2016 & they really stand out especially when the car is white like mine. Plus they have LED turn signals where the 13-15's are incandescent.
Yes we own the Lexus Gs 350 2013 AWD. And its nice simple but elegant at the same time. The 2018 however. I feel like nothing much changed. It was a lazy design. I love lexus but now i feel like they are not even trying
pedro fernandez what if the Lexus cars are actually damn good? Stop being a troll. Wait until he drives the new twin turbo LS500 gonna love Lexus even more.
They are damn good, but he has always thought of Lexus as being soft cars attracting older drivers, the LC and the F variant models are changing that stigma
pedro fernandez the LFA change the stigma. If you think about it Lexus the brand is honestly working harder then any other brand. They have built a super car and has built a entire high performance brand in only a few years. Companies like Infiniti, Acura Volvo a bunch of other don't compare to what Lexus is offering. Lexus has made lots of stride for being such a young brand.
in 1989, Toyota sent the Germans into a fit with the introduction of the LS400, better in just about every way and for a lot less money, now history repeats itself with the LC and upcoming LS
Did you get one yet? I have a white on red 2016 GS350 F-Sport that I bought about a year ago & I still love it! These are easily one of the best used cars you can buy right now in the $25k-$30k price range IMO. I paid $28k with 41k miles (Original MSRP $58k). Has been a near perfect car for me & planning on keeping it for a very long time.
I just watched a review for the 2018 LS and it makes this car's interior look a decade old by comparison. I am not a fan of the exterior styling from any angle. Not a bad car, just better options on the market if you ask me.
I don’t understand why the people who review the vehicle have to give their input on what they PERSONALLY like; just give the Vehicle’s amenities, and keep your thoughts (your personal likes, and dislikes) to yourself...
I'm sure this car drives great, but it is a rolling butterface. It looks like a capybara with melting-hourglass-shaped baleen. I shall name it . . . Bane. Okay, my shrooms are kicking in.
Manual rear side shades are part of the $6,000 luxury package which is the only way you can get those along with the rear controls, rear passenger heated seats, fully-adjustable passenger seat, and front passenger memory programming.
9:10 It depends on people. I like it better than touch screen. I can use it easily while driving and Have NO need to reach my body forward to touch the screen. As you mention that you always scroll over or too much. Do you know you can adjust it in OPTIONS? If you doing car review I would suggest take a little more time into knowing the car bore 10:00 saying it is annoying car LMAO. Overall it is a great video and thanks for sharing it!!
I have to say, power tailgates/trunk lids aggravate me. I'm an impatient person. If I want a luxury car, I shouldn't be forced to be slow. That feature is ALWAYS rolled into something that seems like a no-brainer for the interior.
At 13:29, the truck capacity of Lexus GS 350 AWD is measured at 18.4 cubit feet, not 14.2 cubic feet. www.lexus.com/models/GS/specifications/gs-350-awd#engine
Joshua R Any chance of it getting the 8 speed DirectShift for the AWD version? And what about the turbo V6 in the LS? At least replace this 2GR-FSE with a detuned turbo V6, Lexus!!
ewt415 Just bought a 2013 luxury awd with 55k miles on it for $24k. Its in perfect condition. I know the previous owner and he keeps his cars in like new condition. He has a GX and a RC F and needed to make room in his garage for an LC. SUV and truck prices are so high right now it's driving the price of sedans down. That means savings for sedan lovers. The time to buy is now before gas starts to go up again.
I bought a white on red 2016 GS350 F-Sport eight months ago with 41k miles for $28k (original MSRP $58k). Overall an excellent used car & a huge improvement over my 2017 IS200t F-Sport that it replaced.
Koji sato said GS will discontinue for the moment, this is last generation GS you can buy, GS350 f-sport RWD is good a good car, but 6AT AWD or 2.0T? NO!
Hey Sofyan, just wanted to say that you finally got to review the IS350 AWD F-SPORT that I asked about a year ago, lol. I just hope the 4th gen IS will put that TTV6 in...I mean, the IS350 isn't a slow car by any means, but it just isn't as powerful as the competition.
It actually has it as you press the lock button three times & hold it down the third time. It's free the first year then you pay after that with a subscription.
There's something weird about the proportions from the b pillar on. It looks squashed and squared like a previous gen Corolla. The interior still looks beautiful though.
I just bought a 2013 Lexus GS 350 all wheel drive dark blue with 68,000 miles on it one owner just a remarkable car love it will never get rid of it drives fantastic really quiet but gets up and moves when you wanted to especially in the S Plus mode
I have still have an old 2011 GS 350 AWD and it's plenty fast to me. I actually had 2 tickets in 2 weeks because I of how fast I'm used to driving. That's just a car with just over 300 horsepower. Most comfortable I have ever driven. I rented a Mercedes GLA once. One of the roughest, most uncomfortable car I will never drive again. Embarrassing to even call a Benz.
What State was this review in, because I tried to find a used gs350 sports luxury and no where to be found in the US. Also , I took a test drive on a 2019 gs350 f sport and I didn't here the growl like on your review here. What did I do wrong? Is there a button to turn on the sound, or does it only growl in sports+? To be fair, it was a quick test drive, and I was by myself and knew nothing about the car.
It is called the Toyota K platform (TNGA) and used in Front-wheel drive and front-wheel-based 4WD used by Toyota from 1999 to 2022 It is an automotive platform for mid-size to semi-large cars Very strong and light with high crush safety.
Does anyone know if they sell the F sport package with some wood trim? I’m thinking of getting one soon but i don’t like the silver aluminum lookin trim through out the car’s dash and doors. I just think the leather with the wood looks so much better
You keep saying this car lags behind the German competitors. For what it's worth, this is a great car and I will be getting one by the end of this year. What you fail to mention is after 10 years, the Lexus won't end up in the junkyard like it's "competitors".
Jaguar F-type man you sound ignorant...
Ammar Anwar every word i said is very true, and comes from experience. at the price point of the lexus you might as well get something that performs and breaks down than this uninspired slow turd of a car. if the german cars break down fuckin fix them, the jag breaks down i fuckin fix it, you cant afford to fix them then you shouldnt be buying cars in this price range. ill take performance and fun over reliability any fucking day, thats truth. lexus is reliable cause they limit what their cars can do, its not well built, they just stop you from having fun in them so theres less chance of breaking them. i hit 7k rpms on the way to the mail box, not a soul in sight, just for fun... when was the last time you red lined your lexus. do you even own a fuckin lexus or you just regurgitating someone elses opinions... cause thats pretty fuckin ignorant.
Bo Han 6 speed trans, and this Lexus styling is terrible.
Jaguar F-type wow that's the talk of a sheep😂😂
you want point a to point b in a comfortable manner buy a fuckin prius. these premium luxury cars are meant for performance as well as luxury. Lexus gives nothing to the performance, they dont even try. you want luxury take a look at the interior and ride of a svr, or an e class or 5 series, lexus' competitors all have the same or better luxury for the same price, BUT you also get the performance. what happens trueg404 that 1% of the time when you want to be dickhead, and you got nothin? atleast that option is there with lexus' competitors and if you only want to get to point a to b in a comfortable manner than you aint no TrueG, you are a true old lady.
Scotty Kilmer brought me here. I also own a 94' Celica with over 340,000 miles on it. Great review! Cheers!
Lexus GS is still a solid choice especially if you planning on keeping it for more than 4 years. I had a BMW X5 .... never again!!!!! You learn fast reliability should be at the top of factors when choosing your new car.
nykshtukasfishtank just traded in my empty money pit 2013 BMW X5 for a 2013 Lexus ES350, 1 owner with only 30k miles. Couldn’t be any more happier !!
After 8 months of ownership of the X5 and nearly $1k it was time to get rid off it !!
I've owned both X5 and GS300..; let's just say, I still own the GS and the X5 has been trashed!
My X5 gas needle stop working and odometer led screen completely went out after a rainstorm and never came back on. I now have a Ls430 with no problems.
@@chomar97 don't worry nowadays toyota supra is a bmw z4 so they work together, hopefully bmw becomes more reliable now
So much hate on BMW but a lot of factors to determine. All you claiming BMW was unreliable what was the vehicle history ? How many owners? Was proper maintenance done? My friend purchased a used Lexus GS 350 2014 and it was a disaster. I've owned a few BMW in the past and never had major issues. I'm not a BMW fan boy had several brands in my life time just calling out the ignorance here
Thats what I'm looking for. When I test drive all these new cars, I can feel the computer doing the majority of the work. That "old school" feel is what I want.
As long as you do Lexus reviews, I'm gonna keep LIKEing them 👍🏻
Love love my '13 GS 350, will replace it eventually with a lightly use GS- F with the V8. Drove one hard and I am in Love, especially
in Atomic silver with the circuit red interior.
I want a GS too! I want the RWD with the 8speed👌
There is no such thing as a lightly used lexus F car
@@calebf612 😆 true
This is your fourth or fifth time driving a Lexus with that turn signal stalk, it is not confusing it takes 30 seconds to learn how to use.
right? like i've not had those issues, maybe the one that keeps getting it stuck should not be driving one.....lol
Yeah, but Asian driver soooooo,...
i drove my friends GS and it took me 5 seconds to get used to. it does cancel unlike BMWs and alfa romeo’s
@@thisismagacountry1318 relevant username lol
@@firstnamelastname6699 Just waiting for the trial. I'm using it since he won't admit his lie.
Lol these comments r funny😂 but tbh..I got rid of my BMW 7 for a Lexus...I sure as hell miss the performance and handling in the Beamer..but the repair bills just kept coming..but not a single problem with my L..Guess u can say I value reliability over performance any day..
Kingdrosive 3 It's highly doubtful you owned both. If you want reliability with no performance, you should buy a Corolla/Camry. Otherwise, it makes no sense.
Анатолий Герман I’ve owned both..currently own a 2011 is350 Lexus and used to own a 2007 BMW 750..my old 750 had a lot of Cooling System Problems..the Beamer definitely doesn’t like to be driven daily..and my Lexus IS is pretty sporty oh and FYI it’s not hard to get a 7series..the real trick is being able to keep it...and seriously a corrola..I’m not rich but sure as hell can afford something a bit more expensive..get out more👍
Kingdrosive 3 If you count every penny, you should't buy Germans, especially USED. This complex tech, fun and performance aren't cheap.
Анатолий Герман Cant argue with that..but leasing is a different story..take it easy
Likewise currently shopping for a used GS.
I own a 14 F-SPORT GS 350 RWD and it's a completely different animal. Back road monster and is the best handling car I've ever owned.
I've got the same thing, just AWD. Completely agree, a lot of these people say Lexus can't make a car that handles well, but they have never driven one
how funny i had an is250 f sport back in 2015 as a lease and they gave me a gs as a loaner, i was shockedddddd itg hjandled so much better than the IS.
The mouse in my 2015 isn't so bad once you get used to it, and once you know how to use it you really don't need to use the mouse a whole lot. You have radio presents you can toggle through on the wheel and you can use the voice button to change stations - so most of the time you don't need the mouse.
When this first came out, Motor Trend called it Best in Class, compared to the A6, 5-Series and E-Class
Woke AF squishy muffinz
Motor trend is prepaid show
It's still a great car Lexus just abandoned it
@@WesLey-yv8vi yep they sure did
All this guy does is complain and compare everything against German cars.
saltylures yeah German cars will break down in a few years
he’s biased to german cars
Yep, noticed that as well.
Because german cars are on top of the list idiots, to who you want to compare lexus?? To Subaru? Honda? Infinity? Fking joke, next time see german cars inside in real and test drive them and you'see why they cost so much
And people dont buy german cars to last them long lol
Over the last 8 years I had 06 and 13 GS. A part for the AC went bad in the 06. No other issues other than standard preventive maintenance.
I'm still more of an Audi guy myself, even though they're nowhere near as reliable. But I can't lie, I've legit had dreams of cruising in a luxury Lex all business suited up. That's just road faring paradise!
True story! Someone traded a 2013 gs350 for a 2019 gs350 f sport. If you drove both car you couldnt tell which one was newer because they are built rock solid. The suspension, engine and all sounded like he just unwrapped the car. He has been the owner of the 2013 gs350 since new. I assure you that you cant say the same about any german car on the road right now.
Cool story bro and pretty redundant. If one just keeps up with the maintenance and don't abuse the car then a BMW can be as reliable as a Lexus
@@titusrome2863 while spending an arm and a leg considering I worked at BMW they are great lease vehicle but horrible to own
@@titusrome2863 keep trying to convince everybody 😂 you’re only convincing yourself
@@titusrome2863 i’m gonna need some of what your smoking little guy😂
A great car to drive every day, all day. You can put a price on performance, but you can't put a price on reliability.
Toyota and Lexus cars are just reliable tanks ~~
I have a Lexus GS 350 2016 and I love it....great car in my opinion.
kester same I love my awd 2016 I dunno wtf this guy talking about it being laggy or slow.... too many criticisms
I totally agree! I bought a white on red 2016 GS350 F-Sport a couple years ago with 41k miles for $28k before taxes (original MSRP $58k) & it's been the best car ever! I seriously can't ask for a better car!
I’m gonna buy one of these, maybe a ‘15 model. Have an ‘09 Passat and love the way it drives. Bought it for cheap with only 109k miles but in the four months I’ve had it it’s been a German nightmare. Never another German car for me. Sure German cars have killer performance but they also kill you with repair bills and keep you poor. Lexus is luxury, sportiness and reliability. It’s not too much to ask for all three. Go with Lexus
You ever get the 2015? I got mine this February and been living it since! Such a smooth riding car and has some nice power.
Seriously considering the car but can’t get over how the rear end of this car looks. If the GS looked like the ES it’d be an instant buy.
s50201 i have a 2013 it’s super solid I love it, weird but I like the newer rear end but not the front and vice versa
So many haters, I would take this over any of it's competitors. Looks refreshingly great compared to the entire fleet of run of the mill BMW and E Classes.
This car with some after market parts, add a supercharger and you got a whole different beast 💯
What's the DougScore?
Ronak Patel lmao
bruh
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That engine and 6 speed auto will last you years so thank you Lexus for thinking about that reliability aspect that its competitors don’t focus on as much. And that interior is still beautiful.
I completely disagree about the gauges!! Please keep simple non-LCD gauges. I don't want a damn computer screen just to tell me my speed and revs. It's useless complexity and causes excess glare at night.
sjwang40 I agree. Those big lcds get laggy and glitchy in extreme temperatures.
Agreed and LCD screens are expensive and a headache to fix.
@@MegaNOObxX I though I was the only one nauseated by these LCD gauges that will probably cost a small fortune to fix in 5-10 years. In addition they look fake, are laggy, and childish.
Pffft. I'll take an Audi screen any day.
@@chooseymomschoose only if I'm leasing it cause after it starts to glitch ur gonna hate how much money goes into fixing it
Everytime he smacks his lips while talking, you take a shot lol. You'll be drunk by the test drive.
ok huell
Drank!
Yessss... this intro was especially lip-smacky. He must really want a Lexus.
You'd be in the hospital by the end of the video.
Yes you know *** part of the alphabet community
I love the front end .
I hate it. Looks like a Latino cheap grill. Only thing it’s missing is a spoiler
Totally agree! I own a white on red 2016 GS350 F-Sport & can't stop staring at it! Such beautiful underrated cars!
My Father has owned two Mercedes. Parts and maintenance are insane, not for me. Audi? Love the style my favorite German brand based in looks, scary reliability. And if I had a nickel for everyone who's told me they'll never buy a BMW again, I'd be retired. Lexus is luxury that just makes sense. You get reliability, luxury, value and resale.
I really want to like this car. But the competition is just so much better. I don't understand what's so hard to just tweak small things like the Germans do every year. How hard is it to offer an optional Pano moon roof? How hard is it update your graphics? To offer Apple/Android CarPlay, to offer cooled rear seats, to add 4g lte wifi, to redo the instrument cluster, to add AWD to the 200t models, to bump up the horsepower. The car doesn't need a redesign, just keep the updates consistent and feeling fresh. I'm a Lexus fanboy, but after seeing virtual cockpit to whatever this "Enformed" system is, I can't even recommend a Lexus over the competition. The G80 is even more advanced than this car, and that's just a refreshed Genesis.
Shutup you dont know anything lol
@@SD61904 For $500 you can buy a factory integration unit and have a full android computer. I have it on my 11, it was actually an accessory in some markets.
These are some of the best cars ever made, especially if you want to keep it long term. AWD too. I guess some people want planned obsolescence, unreliable german shit
@@alb12345672 yeah I own a 2015 f sport, best car ive ever driven
@@SD61904 Yup, they are extremely underrated cars. And those 3.5L V6s? They are some of the most powerful NATURALLY ASPIRATED v6 engines on the planet. AND RELIABLE! And I get 23 MPG if I drive easy. BMW isn't even competition (I mean, I am also talking about keeping the car past its warranty period, even being reliable IN WARRANTY). My neighbor had a BMW and he only drives Lexus now. BMW also treats their customers like shit, and he had 5 cars from them. Hyundai is better to deal with. I tried BMW too and it is a wash which one is actually better.
Thank you for the video, great review! Looking to get one of these bad boys soon.
Come on NJ legislators, get rid of that useless front tag already,what's the point of having that in the front?
pedro fernandez Connecticut does them too 😩
pedro fernandez if a car is coming towards an officer or maybe hits someone or is following someone, that person can get their license plate number. If the police are looking for a vehicle in a crime and get the front on video, they have more than just the make and model of the car to go off of. It's actually really useful
It ruins the fascia on many new vehicles, police pull over cars by the rear plate, not the front.
pedro fernandez you literally did not comprehend my comment. I'm not talking about pulling people over. I'm talking about other situations in which you don't see the back of the car. Please re read my comment
OpticObsidiaN you need to do some research! Front plates are used so that police have a second object to shoot lazer or radar at to get your speed (second to headlights) both are reflective surfaces. Also, prisoners would loose half of their revenue if they would require using one plate. And lastly, most law enforcement departments can read your plate from any angle regardless even if you dont have a front plate. (Hence why many states dont require you have a front plate) I come from a small town with a small budget for their police department, and after they upgraded from crown vics to suburbans a few years ago, they gained that technology. So if my small town with a small budget has that advantage, that means many many more already have it.
This package is very hard to find
So far my favorite vehicle from Lexus, hoping they don't ditch this model in next iteration.
Lets be honest, this car has its unique group of fanboys and you have to drive one, and once you will you immediately fall in love
You mention Lexus has two cars for the midsize segment, that used to be the case until the current model came out about two years ago. The ES is now in the Full size segment, same as the Toyota Avalon.
My coworker has a 2010 GS 350 and is thinking of upgrading, but he says he doesn't like the new styling of this one... Can't seem to find a good deal on a used pre-refresh one in the area either. I like the styling, personally, but it is obvious even the loyalists are capable of disliking it. Note, this is the guy who kinda helped steer me in the direction of Lexus - refusing to buy a new one. Nonetheless hopefully I will get to sample one of these at some point - I hear great stuff about the handling.
ARentz07 you should tell him to look at genesis g80 or g70 just depends on his taste.
Hey Sofyan! What'd you think of the G70 reveal??
I’m very surprised you don’t like the auto in this car, my family has a 2017 GS350 AWD Premium and I think the Trans is one of the best features of it. The car shifts so fast and the paddles are almost instant even when driving the car 9/10. It handles amazingly and accelerates very good for its class. The ride is alright though and the non luxury seats are terrible. Other than that it’s a great car and I highly recommend it over its competitors because it’s a great value. Ours was $50k OTD and was decently loaded (58k MSRP.) Has everything except read seat controls, wood steering wheel, and 18 way seats. Way cheaper features for price than almost everything in class.
Tyler Beeson the transmission is just fine but once you experience the 8,9, and now 10 speed autos in the competition, you'll quickly notice the limitations of this older 6-speed in this car. It just shifts a lot slower and the gearing can knock the engine out of the meat of its power band.
Ok, I see what you mean. I have an 07' S550 with the old 7G-Tronic transmission and it can be a dog. Shifting at awkward times and slow shifts, so the Lexus' 6 Speed feels lightning fast for me. The 7G is good for full throttle though, it's very quick and tight, but half throttle and quick on and off confuses it. Tech has really advanced a lot in the drivetrain of cars in the past 10 years.
ES is not a Camry-based sedan, it is Avalon-based.
John Grabowski It used to be Camry based until the current generation. Although technically the Avalon, ES, and previous generation of Camry are all built on the Toyota K platform so they're all related.
Avalon is the Stretched Version of the ES/Camry...
No, it's not. ES is a Camry but obviously more luxurious. Both are FWD. Look at the 2018 ES and 2018 Camry SE/XSE, they are VERY SIMILAR. GS is RWD and stands as the mid size sedan between the IS and LS. Please know your cars before making a statement like that, which turns out to be inaccurate.
@@crxracer805 GS IS IS AVAILABLE IS AWD AND RWD
@@luxuryelegance7319 Yeah I know that. Same with the LS and IS.
Your reviews look clean and explain everything about car that is very nice.
The ES is based on the Avalon not the Camry
The Avalon is based on the old Camry.
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The rims on that particular GS are 19 not 18
Redline Reviews Speaking of, you don't have any Avalon reviews? What's up with that?! Lol!
+Heyu Yoma Avalon is not based off of Camry, Avalon is the flagship model for toyota
But it is based on the Camry. It uses a lengthened version of the Camry platform and has for some time.
Good Review, I really enjoyed this very thorough review, It's now almost 2019, did they cover your suggestions?
That naturally aspirated V6 is probably the last iteration of 2GR. That will be missed
Good review. I think the slow sales can partially be attributed to this car's polarizing design. Lexus has stated that all their vehicles will employ love it or hate it styling. The problem with that approach is that once the pool of "love it" buyers is exhausted, no one else is going to buy the car. After my car got totaled a few months ago, I was in the market for a new one. It came down to the Lexus GS or Infiniti Q50S. I ended up getting the Q50 because I hated the look of the GS.
I just think that the competition moved too fast too quickly leaving a lot of Lexus cars uncompetitive. If it weren't for Lexus' reputation, I'd never even consider a Lexus at all. The A4 is just technologically light years ahead. Virtual Cockpit, 4G Lte, Heads up display, rear usbs, Pano moon roof, Apple CarPlay/Android Auto, superior navigation, HD radio, cooled rear seats.
Also, Lexus offering their 200 models as RWD only really hurt sales. Not just that they are so underpowered, but I want a twin turbo, but live in bad weather conditions. The 300/350 doesn't make sense to me.
After seeing Audi's virtual cockpit LCD cluster, seeing Infiniti's and Lexus' makes me cringe, which is a shame because they used to have the better interiors.
I actually think the styling is the only thing Lexus is doing right.
Nicholas Mazzi Good luck with that Nissan / Infiniti build quality and reliability~
I see a lot of this model GS here in NYC as well as the previous gen model.
Should of gotten the Genesis G80 311 horsepower and 293 Torque , goood power and value for your money ,, I really don't like that bland tailights , could of made it LED type ..
Miko The Genesis vehicles are nice and are a good value but the interior materials are so much cheaper than the competition. You can really tell where they've cut corners to make their "value". I'm not saying that they are bad or cheap cars because they're not but you get what you pay for. I'm interested to see how the Genesis turbo engines hold up once they start getting into higher mileage.
You are complaining that the gauge cluster is not a full LED display? You know that many people who want to keep a car long term hate those displays right? I strongly prefer the simplicity of analog gauges.
Naturally Aspirated. Great term!
Redline Reviews This is the Sofyan I miss. Slow speaking, and able to enunciate precisely. Today's Sofyan speak as if it was his last breath, with a few mistakes in between. I am sure others have noticed.
I feel like Lexus needs to have a better HP with the 3.5L V6. The IS has 306 HP from 2006-2017. Tbh, the Infiniti Q50 Red Sport does better gas miles than the Lexus, with 400 HP. Lexus should remodel its vehicle, especially from 2012-2017 IS, they've had the same looking car for 4 years.
MJ Wild you hit the nail on the head. they can have better performance, higher torque and hp, the engine is very capable of it. this is lexus' single biggest fault. they limit what their cars can do to save on warranty repairs and to try and promote their "reliability" mystique. they know if they mapped and tuned that engine to produce 400 hp it would break down more, if they through a super charger in it it would be amazing, but that leads to more warranty repairs just like the german cars and the infiniti, they cop out on performance cause they think reliability is more important. its working for them they are numbert 2 behind mercedes right now so i dont want to shit on them too much, but if you are a performace guy, and want to be a boss on the road, dont buy a lexus, every single car in its respective class will out perform it.
why more hp? its not sport oriented like the Infiniti its more luxury based. but it could use a mpg increase
MJ Wild if you want more power go for the GSF with the V8
The infinity has turbo, this car is Naturally aspirated. The max HP range for a N/A 3.5L engine is in the low 300s
Jaguar F-type I agree, but I'm just stating. I like Lexus cars, but having the same engine and body style for 4 years, kinda got repetitive. It would be nice to see a remodel of the car just a little. I noice the IS/GS was changed slightly for 2017, it looks nice and everything, but some things should have something new for every year. Maybe a new trip level.. maybe.
The GS was once the beast of the Lexus lineup.
I'm not a fan of this generation GS. I still love the previous generation.
William Allen right right
Finally that AWD YOU ASKED FOR
Sofyan really needs a sponsorship from porsche.... would love to hear his opinions on their cars...
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Most have actually not gotten the GS with AWD. Most are RWD. What is rare is rear wheel steering, which mine has. A GS with luxury package and AWD will most definitely not feel the sportiest. However, if you were to get the 8 speed RWD model with F sport package, this would've been a different video. The GS as far as interior tech may be behind its competitors because its essentially Lexus's first vehicle in the new era of spindle grill and it definetly shows its age. However, its is one of the better driving vehicles in the class, the most reliable, and yes the most polarizing as far as looks. If they do redesign the GS and I hope to God they do and not just give up on it, I'm pretty confident that it will receive the new twin turbo motor from the new LS, its interior and exterior will be upgraded and it will again be at the top of its class like it once was.
I have a 2015 GS350 w/ the 3.5L V6, 8 speed transmission (not 6), AWD, fully loaded.....and it freakin' flies. I absolutely love it. Have to agree with you about the damned mouse; a royal pain. Never try to use it while driving......ever.
Stuart Alexander you don’t know what you have. The awd gs only comes with the 6at. 8at is for rwd models only.
test drove the new E class avantgarde.its noisy,vibrates alot and jerky with the 9 speed g-tronic.sorry benz but i will be keeping my problem-free 6 yr old GS.
Imagine wasting money on a benz/bmw
mercedes and bmw are way better than lexus
@@kristians2704 I’ve owned all 3... I’d prefer a lexus😭
@DasherDk what are you on about?
Great review's men I watch all your videos love to see a video for the new Kia stinger that's coming out
You should do a Q&A
Everyone is going to hate on this car. I personally like the car.
Likewise. It is very good and solid vehicle.
The es is not based on the Camry. It’s now based on the Avalon since 2013.
I like the 13-16 taillights better than the refresh ones
Agreed. As much as I look at the last iteration's lights...I just pause and always say, 'nah'.
@@osmile01right .. definitely not the best looking tail lights
New ones are better imo, clear housing with intricate red on the insides makes it unique
@@Oneofakind91 Agreed! I have a 2016 & they really stand out especially when the car is white like mine. Plus they have LED turn signals where the 13-15's are incandescent.
After the Lexus LC 500's debut, it's very hard for me to enjoy any other Lexus out there like this one :(
I liked it better before the grill change. Somewhere around 2012 - 13.
Yes we own the Lexus Gs 350 2013 AWD. And its nice simple but elegant at the same time. The 2018 however. I feel like nothing much changed. It was a lazy design. I love lexus but now i feel like they are not even trying
The LC500 has made Soyfan a Lexus fanboy!
pedro fernandez what if the Lexus cars are actually damn good? Stop being a troll. Wait until he drives the new twin turbo LS500 gonna love Lexus even more.
They are damn good, but he has always thought of Lexus as being soft cars attracting older drivers, the LC and the F variant models are changing that stigma
pedro fernandez the LFA change the stigma. If you think about it Lexus the brand is honestly working harder then any other brand. They have built a super car and has built a entire high performance brand in only a few years. Companies like Infiniti, Acura Volvo a bunch of other don't compare to what Lexus is offering. Lexus has made lots of stride for being such a young brand.
in 1989, Toyota sent the Germans into a fit with the introduction of the LS400, better in just about every way and for a lot less money, now history repeats itself with the LC and upcoming LS
Toyota4Life well Acura is slowly doing that based on what your saying
thinking of buying this car in 2021. Good idea ?
Did you get one yet? I have a white on red 2016 GS350 F-Sport that I bought about a year ago & I still love it! These are easily one of the best used cars you can buy right now in the $25k-$30k price range IMO. I paid $28k with 41k miles (Original MSRP $58k). Has been a near perfect car for me & planning on keeping it for a very long time.
I just watched a review for the 2018 LS and it makes this car's interior look a decade old by comparison. I am not a fan of the exterior styling from any angle. Not a bad car, just better options on the market if you ask me.
Wow when I heard 2017 GS350, my hair stood on end. I love them
I don’t understand why the people who review the vehicle have to give their input on what they PERSONALLY like; just give the Vehicle’s amenities, and keep your thoughts (your personal likes, and dislikes) to yourself...
I'm sure this car drives great, but it is a rolling butterface. It looks like a capybara with melting-hourglass-shaped baleen. I shall name it . . . Bane. Okay, my shrooms are kicking in.
@Will Kelley - well damn, that was harsh 😖
This latest gen ES350 now shares Avalon's chassis.
Never seen one with LED lights and side sun shades
Manual rear side shades are part of the $6,000 luxury package which is the only way you can get those along with the rear controls, rear passenger heated seats, fully-adjustable passenger seat, and front passenger memory programming.
Hate what they did to the front end and taillights in this refresh, the 2013-2015 GS looked so much better.
Agreed. Loved the 2013-15 GS. Looked perfect for me but the facelift looks so ugly.
Lukas
Yeah is if they intentionally made it to look worse
Sales dropped off big time after the refresh as well. Hopefully they don't discontinue it
I had a 2014 F Sport. I agree. The refresh mucked up a once beautiful car.
had a 14 f sport. do not like front of base version. do not tail light of current model either.
This body debuted in europe in 2012 lol and it had wayyy more loaded interior
9:10 It depends on people. I like it better than touch screen. I can use it easily while driving and Have NO need to reach my body forward to touch the screen. As you mention that you always scroll over or too much. Do you know you can adjust it in OPTIONS? If you doing car review I would suggest take a little more time into knowing the car bore 10:00 saying it is annoying car LMAO. Overall it is a great video and thanks for sharing it!!
This is gonna be a good review. Can't wait to watch it.
I can’t afford to be stupid so I got a GS, I can’t believe what it cost to be a German fanboy with their endless money pit
if you lease them then there’s no problem
Nice review. I wish Lexus would keep this car updated. It actually looks nice if the interior wasn't so 2007.
I have to say, power tailgates/trunk lids aggravate me. I'm an impatient person. If I want a luxury car, I shouldn't be forced to be slow. That feature is ALWAYS rolled into something that seems like a no-brainer for the interior.
At 13:29, the truck capacity of Lexus GS 350 AWD is measured at 18.4 cubit feet, not 14.2 cubic feet. www.lexus.com/models/GS/specifications/gs-350-awd#engine
I test drove a 2016 today rwd 8spd and it's the same as this, it was hunting for the gears when it was down shifting
Please keep an eye out for people on Electric Scooters. Share the road...
I have the exact car, 2016......and I love it
FYI the GS is being redesigned for 2019. It has been discussed on Club Lexus. I saw the design code.
Joshua R What about the IS? When will it get redesigned on the TNGA-L platform?
+elusivellama More than likely the IS will be redesigned in 2019 as a 2020 model.
Joshua R it seems like Toyota/Lexus is revamping their lineup in 2020
Joshua R Any chance of it getting the 8 speed DirectShift for the AWD version? And what about the turbo V6 in the LS? At least replace this 2GR-FSE with a detuned turbo V6, Lexus!!
+elusivellama More than likely all models will get the 8 or 10 speed transmission.
You can get a 2014 GS350 F Sport for about $33,000 with as many miles. Fucking bargain of the century
ewt415 Just bought a 2013 luxury awd with 55k miles on it for $24k. Its in perfect condition. I know the previous owner and he keeps his cars in like new condition. He has a GX and a RC F and needed to make room in his garage for an LC. SUV and truck prices are so high right now it's driving the price of sedans down. That means savings for sedan lovers. The time to buy is now before gas starts to go up again.
I bought a white on red 2016 GS350 F-Sport eight months ago with 41k miles for $28k (original MSRP $58k). Overall an excellent used car & a huge improvement over my 2017 IS200t F-Sport that it replaced.
Koji sato said GS will discontinue for the moment, this is last generation GS you can buy, GS350 f-sport RWD is good a good car, but 6AT AWD or 2.0T? NO!
Are the gauges digital they look really nice still they dont look analog
My dream car!
Any idea if you'll get an IS350 AWD F-Sport for review? Been looking for one on your channel for the later model years.
elusivellama Hopefully soon. Lexus did loan us an IS300 F-Sport which we'll be uploading the review later this month.
Hey Sofyan, just wanted to say that you finally got to review the IS350 AWD F-SPORT that I asked about a year ago, lol. I just hope the 4th gen IS will put that TTV6 in...I mean, the IS350 isn't a slow car by any means, but it just isn't as powerful as the competition.
Those wheels on your Luxury test car are 19"' not 18". On F Sport you get different design staggered 19" rims.
pretty in blue and the car is nice too !
Tryna choose between f sport Lexus or g80 sport
For that price, it still annoys me that we don’t get remote start with car
It actually has it as you press the lock button three times & hold it down the third time. It's free the first year then you pay after that with a subscription.
There's something weird about the proportions from the b pillar on. It looks squashed and squared like a previous gen Corolla. The interior still looks beautiful though.
Splendid car + in my favourite color dark blue great viva lexus 💕💕💕💕😎😎😎😎
I just bought a 2013 Lexus GS 350 all wheel drive dark blue with 68,000 miles on it one owner just a remarkable car love it will never get rid of it drives fantastic really quiet but gets up and moves when you wanted to especially in the S Plus mode
@@jackwyatt4184 grreat happy for ypu in europe just hybrid engine available not the V6 grettings from belgium
I have still have an old 2011 GS 350 AWD and it's plenty fast to me. I actually had 2 tickets in 2 weeks because I of how fast I'm used to driving. That's just a car with just over 300 horsepower. Most comfortable I have ever driven. I rented a Mercedes GLA once. One of the roughest, most uncomfortable car I will never drive again. Embarrassing to even call a Benz.
What State was this review in, because I tried to find a used gs350 sports luxury and no where to be found in the US. Also , I took a test drive on a 2019 gs350 f sport and I didn't here the growl like on your review here. What did I do wrong? Is there a button to turn on the sound, or does it only growl in sports+? To be fair, it was a quick test drive, and I was by myself and knew nothing about the car.
Es is Avalon based, god damnit!!
And thank god they haven’t updated to turbos
The ES is based on the Toyota Avalon, not Camry.
It is called the Toyota K platform (TNGA) and used in Front-wheel drive and front-wheel-based 4WD used by Toyota from 1999 to 2022 It is an automotive platform for mid-size to semi-large cars Very strong and light with high crush safety.
How about a review on the jeep grand Cherokee?
Does anyone know if they sell the F sport package with some wood trim? I’m thinking of getting one soon but i don’t like the silver aluminum lookin trim through out the car’s dash and doors. I just think the leather with the wood looks so much better
nOPE