Hi Mike. This is your WEC neighbor with Fleetwood Expedition. Great video and agree we need to pay more attention to our RV insurance. By the way, I finally did fix my door entry handle…. what a job. Nice talking to both you and Leanne (hope I got the spelling correct). Safe travels.
Never run down the road with your propane on or your coach powered up. This eliminates most of the fire risk. Your propane fridge will stay cold 6 to 8 hours turned off if you're not going in it. Think safety. Run with everything turned off.
My insurance company told me they wanted all electric when i was building out my Prevost. NO propane. I heard propane fridges are a common cause for RV fires.
@@josephalberta1145Absolutely… As the previous owner of an old class a RV I spent much of my low budget RV shopping days looking at auction RVs. During that time I realized MOST RV fires happen exactly where the propane tank is. Not shocked by this realization, but moreso surprised that I did not initially think of this, which, in hindsight, is the obvious.
I have found loads of sharp construction debris settled into the bottom of the hood and some of the undercarriage compartments of a 2022 Thor Aria. Far too careless disregard for safety around electrical systems there. Also the number of things that didn’t work on delivery was amazing. The dealer fully expected out warranty and extended warranty to cover it with all the attendant loss of use etc to be completely acceptable to them.
We've had 4 incidents including 2 small fires and 2 smoking wires which would have turned into a fire in the past 11 years on our previous Newmar and current Tiffin motorhome. Thank the Almighty, we and the rigs survived before any lasting damage resulted. Some basic preparedness goes a long way. Had to use an entire fire extinguisher on one so it's advisable to have more than one of those accessible and full. We have one for the kitchen, another inside and another outside which is accessible near the engine compartment. Also its a good idea to have chassis and house battery bank cut off switches and know where all breakers are. Some newer high end coaches have fire mitigation/automatic extinguishers, but it may be a good idea for those that don't to have remote smoke alarms that can also alert your phone such as through wifi so we don't have to rely on someone outside noticing before we can pull off the road. Sorry it happened to him and safe travels
@HappyQuailsLC sure. One of the smoking wires was from a TV monitor. It came from inside and we didn't open it up to investigate further but we cut the power to it and removed it completely. Another time it was actually a starter that stuck and kept trying to crank the diesel engine and we had to quickly disconnect the starting batteries. It's more likely to happen if the battery voltage is low as the starter will be slow to crank the engine and could short out before it does causing a runaway starter. So it's important have tools 🔧 ready to do that. Another time on a recently serviced oil bathed hub, one of the seals failed and leaked out oil and what oil was left overheated and started burning and we immediately pulled over when we saw smoke outside and used a fire extinguisher to put it out before it spread. That required a roadside repair also before it could be safely driven. There are many potential causes of fires in a motorhome but the key is to be prepared as much as possible.
I'm like you have a whole house hold in my RV ,I'm going to Myrtle beach next week ,went out to the motor home and found my swim trunks. Sorry for your loss, I'm calling my insurance company and ask what my coverage is.
Sorry to see this happened. However, after hearing about the insurance coverage issue, it prompted me to check my own policies. Glad everyone was safe and thanks for sharing.
Wow, that surely saddens me to see such loss. At the same time it infuriates me that the insurance company did that. Is there any chance that you would publish the name of that insurance company? I sure don’t want to use them. But a huge thank you for reminding us all to read our policies with a magnifying glass, per se’ to prevent such a tragedy happening to us. Again, my sincere condolences for your loss.
Really the issue is that these things go up sooo fast! Really If you don't catch something quickly enough that an extinguisher is sufficient, water from the tank applied manually isn't going to be much of a help either. These are hot burning and extremely aggressive fires.
The cause is that it was a motorhome. When you live near any Southern coast, west or east, for a lot of years, this seems to be a far too frequent sight, no matter the brand, etc. I think I see about one towable go up for every 10 or 15 motorhomes that do, maybe even more than that.
Sorry for your loss. It seems these RVs are money pits, maintenance and deappreciation. There is limited regulation for this. They sre worse than boats and airplanes.
Around here when the causes of a fire can’t be determined they blame it on squirrels in the attic chewing on the electrical wires. Maybe a squirrel found a way in and had lunch 😉.
Wouldn't it be less expensive to travel by car or plane and stay in high end hotels? We gave up RV'ing quite a few years ago and reduced stress and expense by doing so. You can too.
It’s hard to explain, but it becomes an addiction, travelling to places and using your van. We’ve done loads of hotels and flying to destinations but nothing feels as good travelling with your own RV or like us in the UK our caravan. We have toured the continent to Spain France Switzerland Belgium, Germany Italy, any place you can think of we have travelled with our own camper. We lust love it, and it’s an expensive hobby, far more expensive than Flying and Staying in a hotel. We are in our 80 tys now, we no longer tow, we have our caravan down in Devon overlooking the sea and go for 2 to 3 weeks of each month. In the winter we fly to the Canary Islands for a warm holiday, but it’s not the same as having our own rig with us.😂
I wonder if these RVs should have mandatory factory installed sprinkler systems- a separate water pump for sprinkler rigged to the freshwater tank. Even if you had to DIY it could save a life or two, even your home on wheels.
These Class A's do not even have basis safety features included such as air bags or crumple zones. Imagine if a vehicle manufacturer suddenly decided not to include air bags.
@@recordingmastering Wow that’s horrible - I guess the inspection process of safety is unregulated. That 100-500k could just be a rolling time boom. Sad
What good would it have done for him to have paid more attention to his insurance.? I figure they lowered his insurance from 250,000 to 150,000, because they knew it had depreciated to at least that level. As he said they’d appreciate it everything when he had a settlement, so I don’t see how he would’ve come out any better head is still had 250,000.
Thanks for your comment. You are absolutely correct. Everyone's foremost concern was personal injury. Fortunately there were no injuries. We can and did rejoice about that. Sadly the property damage and financial loss memories still exist.
That’s a giant question indeed! Because there’s a few miles of wires sprawled out everywhere in a unit the search to check may be impossible. Thousands of wires are encased in harnesses.
@@froglobster oh I know.. it looks like an airplane inside these walls .. it’s like we don’t have a chance to defend off an electric fire.. one MH burned when the occupants here a pop from outside and by time they went outside fire was already coming out of the electric bay! They did get their dog out though..
@@Thatcntrygirl1 Nice… I worked for an RV joint for 7 years. I recall a couple techs doing wiring in the service department and the manager telling them don’t run the wires so tight because of movement and flex while travelling. Causes wire rub. You me or insurance companies will never know how loose or tight wiring is in any harness. Quality and thought has gone down the drain.
Could've been mice ? They chew on wiring possibly exposing a live wire. They luv'ed our Sprinter engine compartment insulation until I covered as much as I could with a foil backed insulation.
@@recordingmastering Interesting. Foil. My high school bud had a 67 Chevelle no garage. Uncovered in spring his wires were mouse or rat chewed so bad he couldn’t even start it up
To bad you didn't see Andrew Steele's video regarding insurance on these RVs and how many agents 'screw' you with confusing policies. He lost his RV to fire also. ruclips.net/video/UI7gSOYxygc/видео.html Andrew has some more videos about his fire also along with great content Sorry for your loss but glad everyone is OK
Well, where does one start. 😡 European trucks are weaker, is that's what been towed 😂 It's the longest that the truck has been driven even though it's backwards 😂 More dials and gauges than an aircraft😂 Probably something to do with the drivers 😂 ????????? Then, the neck to ask for a LIKE Where is the UN-subscribe button😢 All jokes aside, Johnno, another great video lad .what a countryside . Do you ever sit back and take it in. Those gents you work for seem to be sound out, taking care of the truck instead of "no no, keep going " When you work for a company like that, the title of "a job" doesn't mean as much. Hope it's not too serious and you're back on the road again soon. Can't wait for the next one. Have a good easter weekend and all the best from Ireland 🇮🇪 👍
I would say a brake hung up and overheated or the wheel bearing. Or maybe an oil leak occurred while you were in transit. If it was fuel leak you would have felt it surge or completely die out.
Hi Mike. This is your WEC neighbor with Fleetwood Expedition. Great video and agree we need to pay more attention to our RV insurance. By the way, I finally did fix my door entry handle…. what a job. Nice talking to both you and Leanne (hope I got the spelling correct). Safe travels.
Never run down the road with your propane on or your coach powered up. This eliminates most of the fire risk. Your propane fridge will stay cold 6 to 8 hours turned off if you're not going in it.
Think safety. Run with everything turned off.
My insurance company told me they wanted all electric when i was building out my Prevost. NO propane. I heard propane fridges are a common cause for RV fires.
@@josephalberta1145Absolutely… As the previous owner of an old class a RV I spent much of my low budget RV shopping days looking at auction RVs. During that time I realized MOST RV fires happen exactly where the propane tank is. Not shocked by this realization, but moreso surprised that I did not initially think of this, which, in hindsight, is the obvious.
I have found loads of sharp construction debris settled into the bottom of the hood and some of the undercarriage compartments of a 2022 Thor Aria. Far too careless disregard for safety around electrical systems there. Also the number of things that didn’t work on delivery was amazing. The dealer fully expected out warranty and extended warranty to cover it with all the attendant loss of use etc to be completely acceptable to them.
Glad nobody was hurt, expensive loss! Scary they didn't figure out why, but hope the repairs solved that.
We've had 4 incidents including 2 small fires and 2 smoking wires which would have turned into a fire in the past 11 years on our previous Newmar and current Tiffin motorhome. Thank the Almighty, we and the rigs survived before any lasting damage resulted. Some basic preparedness goes a long way. Had to use an entire fire extinguisher on one so it's advisable to have more than one of those accessible and full. We have one for the kitchen, another inside and another outside which is accessible near the engine compartment. Also its a good idea to have chassis and house battery bank cut off switches and know where all breakers are. Some newer high end coaches have fire mitigation/automatic extinguishers, but it may be a good idea for those that don't to have remote smoke alarms that can also alert your phone such as through wifi so we don't have to rely on someone outside noticing before we can pull off the road. Sorry it happened to him and safe travels
Great comment with meaningful suggestions. Happy you were able to manage your fire
Can you give us any insights that you learned from the causes of your fires that could help newbies be a little less vulnerable to the unknown?
@HappyQuailsLC sure. One of the smoking wires was from a TV monitor. It came from inside and we didn't open it up to investigate further but we cut the power to it and removed it completely. Another time it was actually a starter that stuck and kept trying to crank the diesel engine and we had to quickly disconnect the starting batteries. It's more likely to happen if the battery voltage is low as the starter will be slow to crank the engine and could short out before it does causing a runaway starter. So it's important have tools 🔧 ready to do that. Another time on a recently serviced oil bathed hub, one of the seals failed and leaked out oil and what oil was left overheated and started burning and we immediately pulled over when we saw smoke outside and used a fire extinguisher to put it out before it spread. That required a roadside repair also before it could be safely driven. There are many potential causes of fires in a motorhome but the key is to be prepared as much as possible.
Good stuff, good stuff. Nice Video.
Glad you enjoyed it
I'm like you have a whole house hold in my RV ,I'm going to Myrtle beach next week ,went out to the motor home and found my swim trunks. Sorry for your loss, I'm calling my insurance company and ask what my coverage is.
Thanks for the comment Jeff. Encouraging viewers to follow up on their insurance coverage was one reason to make the video.
Love the Video
Hope you get well soon, I pray so much that this doesn't happen to me.
Insurance companies screw ya every time.
Me too. Thanks for comment.
I am sooooooo very sorry!
Thanks Gale
Sorry to see this happened. However, after hearing about the insurance coverage issue, it prompted me to check my own policies. Glad everyone was safe and thanks for sharing.
That is the reason my brother agreed to do the video. If it helps one family it is worth it. Really appreciate your kindness
Wow, that surely saddens me to see such loss. At the same time it infuriates me that the insurance company did that. Is there any chance that you would publish the name of that insurance company? I sure don’t want to use them. But a huge thank you for reminding us all to read our policies with a magnifying glass, per se’ to prevent such a tragedy happening to us.
Again, my sincere condolences for your loss.
Thanks
So sorry. The Allegro is a beautiful motorhome and liked by many for quality..
We agree
They should make some kind of attachment to the water tank in the rv so you can use it in case of fire
🤔 SMART!🙏
Really the issue is that these things go up sooo fast! Really If you don't catch something quickly enough that an extinguisher is sufficient, water from the tank applied manually isn't going to be much of a help either. These are hot burning and extremely aggressive fires.
The cause is that it was a motorhome. When you live near any Southern coast, west or east, for a lot of years, this seems to be a far too frequent sight, no matter the brand, etc. I think I see about one towable go up for every 10 or 15 motorhomes that do, maybe even more than that.
So sorry, sir.
Thanks
How do you have 6-7 thousand dollars worth of clothing in a RV?? Where do you shop??
I don't know the answer to your question. thank for watching.
Sorry for your loss. It seems these RVs are money pits, maintenance and deappreciation. There is limited regulation for this. They sre worse than boats and airplanes.
Boat means Bring On Another Thousand. Applies to RVs too.
Around here when the causes of a fire can’t be determined they blame it on squirrels in the attic chewing on the electrical wires. Maybe a squirrel found a way in and had lunch 😉.
Maybe.
When on road shut off refrigerator and hot water heater.....seen this many times
Wouldn't it be less expensive to travel by car or plane and stay in high end hotels? We gave up RV'ing quite a few years ago and reduced stress and expense by doing so. You can too.
I agree but some of us like traveling with our own stuff and in our case this is our full time home.
It’s hard to explain, but it becomes an addiction, travelling to places and using your van. We’ve done loads of hotels and flying to destinations but nothing feels as good travelling with your own RV or like us in the UK our caravan. We have toured the continent to Spain France Switzerland Belgium, Germany Italy, any place you can think of we have travelled with our own camper. We lust love it, and it’s an expensive hobby, far more expensive than Flying and Staying in a hotel. We are in our 80 tys now, we no longer tow, we have our caravan down in Devon overlooking the sea and go for 2 to 3 weeks of each month. In the winter we fly to the Canary Islands for a warm holiday, but it’s not the same as having our own rig with us.😂
I would try to sue that that Ins Agency
That is a possibility
Yes, It sounds like the agent misrepresented the intent of the policy.
I wonder if these RVs should have mandatory factory installed sprinkler systems- a separate water pump for sprinkler rigged to the freshwater tank.
Even if you had to DIY it could save a life or two, even your home on wheels.
These Class A's do not even have basis safety features included such as air bags or crumple zones. Imagine if a vehicle manufacturer suddenly decided not to include air bags.
@@recordingmastering Wow that’s horrible - I guess the inspection process of safety is unregulated. That 100-500k could just be a rolling time boom.
Sad
Thank u for the video! Terrible! What was the cause of the fire? Stay safe out there!!
Thank you Abe for commenting. The insurance company and fire department never found the cause of the fire.
What good would it have done for him to have paid more attention to his insurance.? I figure they lowered his insurance from 250,000 to 150,000, because they knew it had depreciated to at least that level. As he said they’d appreciate it everything when he had a settlement, so I don’t see how he would’ve come out any better head is still had 250,000.
The policyholder can insure the RV at an agreed upon value.
@@wheelingandreeling I’ll have to check that out. My company just does it like a car. Figures what they call market value.
You should be thankful that everybody didn’t get hurt. It’s not all about money.
Thanks for your comment. You are absolutely correct. Everyone's foremost concern was personal injury. Fortunately there were no injuries. We can and did rejoice about that. Sadly the property damage and financial loss memories still exist.
Everyone says electric fires but I mean like what do you need to inspect or feel if it’s getting hot, or what wires get rubbed?
That’s a giant question indeed!
Because there’s a few miles of wires sprawled out everywhere in a unit the search to check may be impossible.
Thousands of wires are encased in harnesses.
@@froglobster oh I know.. it looks like an airplane inside these walls .. it’s like we don’t have a chance to defend off an electric fire.. one MH burned when the occupants here a pop from outside and by time they went outside fire was already coming out of the electric bay! They did get their dog out though..
@@Thatcntrygirl1 Nice… I worked for an RV joint for 7 years. I recall a couple techs doing wiring in the service department and the manager telling them don’t run the wires so tight because of movement and flex while travelling. Causes wire rub. You me or insurance companies will never know how loose or tight wiring is in any harness. Quality and thought has gone down the drain.
Could've been mice ? They chew on wiring possibly exposing a live wire. They luv'ed our Sprinter engine compartment insulation until I covered as much as I could with a foil backed insulation.
@@recordingmastering Interesting. Foil. My high school bud had a 67 Chevelle no garage. Uncovered in spring his wires were mouse or rat chewed so bad he couldn’t even start it up
What about the trauma to the grandkids, how did they come out of it?
Grandkids are resilient once their devices were secured and or replaced. Of course the memory of the fire will forever be with them.
Please let us know where and how the fire started. Thank you.
Thanks for your comment. Origin and cause never determined either by fire department or insurance company.
To bad you didn't see Andrew Steele's video regarding insurance on these RVs and how many agents 'screw' you with confusing policies. He lost his RV to fire also. ruclips.net/video/UI7gSOYxygc/видео.html Andrew has some more videos about his fire also along with great content
Sorry for your loss but glad everyone is OK
I did see his videos and his channel is very good. Thanks for your comment
Holy moly 😢
What started the fire?
Cause was not determined by either fire department or ins company
It seems that the fire first was growing around the wheels. I was wondering if they didnt have some brakes dragging.
@@josephalberta1145 Whatever was in the compartment above the wheels possibly. Electric box maybe? But no idea how the fuel is routed in an RV.
Was the cause determined?
No. The fire department nor insurance company could determine origin of the fire. Thanks for your comment.
Well, where does one start. 😡
European trucks are weaker, is that's what been towed 😂
It's the longest that the truck has been driven even though it's backwards 😂
More dials and gauges than an aircraft😂
Probably something to do with the drivers 😂 ?????????
Then, the neck to ask for a LIKE
Where is the UN-subscribe button😢
All jokes aside, Johnno, another great video lad .what a countryside . Do you ever sit back and take it in.
Those gents you work for seem to be sound out, taking care of the truck instead of "no no, keep going "
When you work for a company like that, the title of "a job" doesn't mean as much.
Hope it's not too serious and you're back on the road again soon. Can't wait for the next one. Have a good easter weekend and all the best from Ireland 🇮🇪 👍
Not sure about this one.
Insurance covered $150K, what is the replacement value? This is one expensive lesson!!! Sounds like it would be cheaper to rent!!!
What was the cause of the fire?
Cause never determined
This makes us all (RVers) do a check up from the neck up.............😳🤭Wish we knew the cause though
Agree and thanks for your comment.
Looked like an accelerant fire.
Cause never found but fuel, oil and construction material certainly accelerated the fire.
I would say a brake hung up and overheated or the wheel bearing. Or maybe an oil leak occurred while you were in transit. If it was fuel leak you would have felt it surge or completely die out.
Propane refrigerators should be outlawed
Buy what is called a Residential Fridge in the upscale models to avoid the propane use.
YIKES!🙀
yes indeed
I like to know °?•..what
caused the fire 👈⁾).
Sorry caused was never determined
Insurance is fine until you actually have a claim…
Couldn't agree more!
Do t buy any rvs
That is an option.