Tractors and Tree Removal
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- If you have a tractor and you live in timber, you may be tempted to take out a dead tree with the loader bucket. That's not a good idea and I talk about the danger in this video.
Our house is next to a wooded area and back four or five years ago we had a pretty severe drought and several of them died. They've been gradually losing limbs and I was out brush hogging under them one day and thought that maybe a couple of them had gotten rotten enough that they could be pushed over with a loader bucket.
Trying to do a task like that is a bad idea and I recommend you DON'T try it, but I hate to admit, I did. When the tree in the video didn't move, I realized that I'd have to pay someone to cut the tree down safely, and when a group of guys, employed by the local electric cooperative, were cutting under their power lines near here, I asked if any of them did tree removal. Usually in a crew like that there's one guy who cuts trees for a living, and when I asked if anyone would like to cut a few trees down to make extra money, there was a volunteer.
He showed up a couple of Saturday's ago, laid the trees on the ground in no time without incident, I paid him, he was happy and I was happy and glad not to be in intensive care.
My family would not be characterized as timber people. Growing up we had a fireplace and I used to help dad gather firewood. He would usually cut down medium-sized trees that had recently died and that's what we'd burn. I'd like to brag on how good a woodsman my father was, but once he cut a tree down on the tractor, one time he almost dropped a tree on the dog, and another time he cut a really small tree down and it fell right on top of him. No one was hurt in any of those incidents, but the point is, I was trained on how to cut down a tree by someone who wasn't very good at it, so I don't trust my abilities. The guy from the tree service cuts them down all the time and charged me $200 for cutting down nine trees, which took a little less than 2 hours for him. The cost of my medical care if any of those trees would have fallen on me (or possibly my funeral) would have been a lot more than a couple hundred bucks so I was glad to pay it. I'll move the trees around this winter when the ticks and chiggers are gone.
The other thing I discuss in the video is how hard it is to dig out a stump with a backhoe. It can be done, it's just a lot bigger job than most people think. If you want to see what I mean, watch this: • Stubborn Stump and then this, which is Part II: • Stubborn Stump 2nd Part .
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Mike, you provide a great public service. Thank you for your expertise.
Thanks Greg!
As someone who had dug tree stumps out of the ground with a fullsize Ford 4500 Backhoe, it's a job even with a large backhoe. Even trees 12" at the base can take an hour or more to dig out. I dug out a old pine stump that was probably 30"+ in diameter and had been cut down for 15yrs. On the surface it was really rotten but was we got down to roots, it was still rock solid. ended up busting a hose making it a 2 day job. It's work. Be ready to swing an ax on the big roots.
Great advice as usual. I stopped trying to push anything large over due to the threat of things breaking at the top. I've seen those rotted trees break at the top on a windy day and they crush anything below. I've got a lot of trees to clear on our property and we hired someone with a dozer. Much less expensive for multiple trees and the roots come out and the hole gets filled in. Anything too big for the dozer deserves to live the rest of it's life in glory. :)
Dozer operators charge a lot but they're worth it. You took the smart route. Yeah, if it's too big for the dozer, that's when you call the chain saw artist and he comes out and makes the stump into a bear or raccoon or something :).
Hi Mike... I have a JD 990 with a backhoe and I usually break up roots on the opposite side of the way I want to drop the tree, then cable the tree with a snatch block and use the weight of the tree itself to uproot the entire stump, then dig out the rest of the stump and haul it away. Works great and it actually helps control the felling of the tree to some degree. Great videos by the way.
Thanks for sharing...very innovative method of tree removal. Makes more sense to me than cutting off the tree at the base and then trying to wrestle the stump out. You're basically using the tree as a lever. That's smart thinking!
Great advice and accurate! Comment: Always use chains when needed to pull a tree you're trying to fell... never rope. Rope can stretch and "gravity" can overpower rope pull and when that happens, the base of that tree may fire back like and arrow toward the come-a-long or whatever you're pulling with and your don't want to be there! Yes, I had that happen when trying to fell a tall pine that had been hit by lightening... the wind got up as I was about half way through with the cut and there was nothing I could do but run and watch the tree fall on my cabin! $3000 repair job, I was lucky!!!
Also wanted to make the point to anyone that rotten trees are more dangerous than live trees. Be extremely cautious when handing storm damaged or rotten trees as the can be VERY unpredictable. Like Mike said, it's best to contract it out unless they're already fallen and aren't too large of a tree. Even a large bushy tree that has fallen can be dangerous like a big oak or maple. Be safe.
I like to use my Stihl Chainsaw to bring the trees down and use the compact tractor help move them once cut up... I suppose there are those that might try something like what you described.....Good advice Mike!
It's become really popular of late to just grind stumps off below ground as you mentioned in your video. I'm here to tell you that isn't really such a great idea over the long run. Watching your five year old grandson disappear into the ground covering a stump that rotted away unseen can be a real heart stopper. Those stumps don't just sit there supporting the ground over them forever. Sooner or later they rot. If you're lucky, there's a gradual subsidence of the soil and you either fill it over time or take some other remedial measure. In the case I'm referring to, my grandson dropped 8 feet straight down when he broke thru the topsoil covering the cavity left when the residual stump and tap root rotted away. We were lucky. I was right there to haul him out and he wasn't hurt by the fall. I hate to think what might have happened if he, or even one of his bigger brothers had been playing in the yard alone. Take the time and either get the stump out yourself if you have the equipment and know-how, or hire somebody that does. I've removed several myself using a backhoe and front-end loader (my tractor is not a compact). Don't just grind it down and bury it. You're just creating a potential disaster for somebody years later.
I cut several trees for my home building site last winter. My builder needed to shoot the elevations yesterday so I used my tractor over the weekend, with a clevis hitch and a 70 rated chain, to drag the trees out of the way. I did have one stump in the way. I cut it at the ground about 80% with a chain saw then bumped it with the loader bucket. I'm learning as I go.
Great advice. I tried to pull a small Japanese Maple stump out of my yard by wrapping a chain around it and hooking the chain to my Kubota L3010 front loader. Came very close to flipping the tractor over. Lesson learned.
Now when i decided to remove an oak tree and then take out the stump I dug around all the roots. That took quite awhile to do, but after a couple of days messing with it i managed to hook a chain on it, but using the loader wasn't what i should have tried. So what i did do was put tractor in four wheel drive, backed up and pulled it out and it did. Then when i hooked it up to the bucket the tractor the stump was way to heavy. I unhooked it went and put on the box blade to add more weight to back of tractor, then i could pick it up high enough to move it, very slowly also.What a hole in the ground that was but i had a stockpile of extra dirt to back fill. Now messing with palm trees is another story by themselves, once cut down half way then usually can pull them out and boy do they ever have long stringy roots and heavy. I like your channel, in fact it's the only one i watch about tractors.
Mike,
I move logs all the time with my loader, on two leaf springs bolted to the underside of the bucket.
EXTREME caution is needed to avoid curling the bucket back too far and having the log roll backwards and onto the operator.
A vid on this problem might be a good idea, it's a great way to move logs, but dangerous if not done with caution.
I've really enjoyed your videos and believe it's made me a much safer tractor operator. Thank you! I've probably thought about doing 3-4 things you've advised against in my own "man moments"! Just where I am in central Texas we see several people killed on compact or utility tractors every year. It's sad because 99% of the accidents are avoidable with a little knowledge and safety training. Keep up the great work! Michael
Thanks for the nice comments. One of the main reasons I do what I do is because of the number of times I see people doing things that are really unsafe and they have no idea they're in danger. Even with the "born and raised on a farm" guys. It just takes one time of trying to cut a corner and you could be seriously injured or killed. Sometimes I think the more you know and the more comfortable you get with machinery, the more danger you're in, so the importance of safe practices never ends.
Hey Mike - Great tips in this video. Wow, does this bring back memories from my childhood about tree stumps. I grew up in an area of western Michigan that had been heavily logged and stripped of the big timbers back in the settling days for many farming and development reasons. Of course, the task of removing all these stumps was a chore and the inventors put together several ideas to help.
The puller I remember the most is the pyramid looking device that used a huge vertical screw which was drilled into the stump. Once attached, a reverse twisting action was used to pull the stump up out of the ground thru the help of a huge lever arm. An alternate method was to just hook up chains instead of drilling into the stump, but still use the overhead screw attached to a long lever arm. Your local "tractor power" was a team of oxen, horses, and a huge flock of chickens (J/K about the chickens - it was flying pigs!)
A second method that I never understood as a kid but now see this more clearly with the help of a great video of a PA team showing a couple of Belgian horses used as "tractor power" to move a long lever arm against a fulcrum. This long lever arm gave the horses the torque advantage and the key was to do it in small increments of pulling and adjusting. I LUV these ponies - Flick and Flash!
Here are links to these two historical machines from days gone by that I think you and the other channel views might enjoy:
ruclips.net/video/nKON42eQJrk/видео.html - Pyramid and screw attached to a rotating lever
ruclips.net/video/9QgRymeiV-k/видео.html - Belgians and the lever arm approach
A third method of leverage using a modern pulling device - pick up truck:
ruclips.net/video/pccuAUNwfw8/видео.html - another fulcrum and lever approach, using modern pulling power
Enjoy everyone!
Mike, I have found your videos to be very helpful. Thank-you. I have taken some tree stumps out with a small skid-steer (Bobcat 553) with a stump bucket. It’s still pretty time consuming, but at the same time kind of fun. The stump bucket is wedge shaped, only about a foot across the front, with three teeth, so you can drive it into the ground next to the stump, and rip the roots. Mine also has a grapple. They make them for tractors too, but I don’t know if that would work as well as the Bobcat. It might be something to look into.
New to tractors - thinking to get one and I'll just ride around knocking all my trees down. 😆 Thank you for your good advices. At least will be more realistic and careful when thinking of using a tractor for tree removal.
Very good presentation. Owning a compact tractor means knowing its and your limitations
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I can tell you digging stumps out are a pain, rented 8000 pound excavator dug all around stump and still had to pull with tractor and push with excavator, big waste of time. Just getting stump out of hole big problems and then what too due with stump, they burn and smolder forever. Love your videos, lots of good advice. Work smarter not harder.
Thanks for sharing...I heard a lot of similar stories when I worked at the dealership.
I have a tractor, but I am hiring a a dirt work guy to clear a couple of acres for me. He has much heavier equipment and more importantly years more experience at tree removal than me. He will be taking a backhoe or excavator and digging on three sides of the trees and pushing them over without cutting.
Another epic video.A month ago i spent 6 hours (2 days 4 hrs first and 2hrs the next) digging a stump with a small compact tractor and it was one of a kind torture! Removing stumps are important if you have termites around. Burning stumps with a witch-hat style metal on top and a fan is better idea but again takes almost forever. To remove trees,better to use a snatch block and some serious methods. Look for `Small tractor big stump` video on youtube.Still,pretty dangerous even with experience
After having timber cleared for farming/pasture service, I wound up with no less than 46 very large stumps....grinding them professionally took all day but well worth it.
Great video Mike, I have seen people really do that, ramming the tree to push it over, braking the tree off and falling on them or the tractor. Not to good on the FEL either. LOL But people don't know the dangers doing that. It can be done, but ! like you said not a good idea. Lot of great tips you gave. Thanks for sharing. Hopefully it keep someone safe & be very helpful to them too. Thanks my friend, stay safe & take care buddy.
I have limbs which fell from one walnut tree and I left the main limbs hanging partially on the ground and will now move them using my tractor and landscaping rake now that they have been there awhile, but knew better than to move them right then using my equipment due to the dangers you mentioned.
Always very helpful advice. Thanks!
I really love your videos. I especially like the one on the MF gc1700 series tractor, which I own the gc1710. I have a few videos, currently, but hope to add more later. I have also learn a lot from Paul Short, who is a kubota bx25d owner. He has quite of collection of videos on here which covers a lot of material, especially sub-compact tractor stiff. Thanks.
great informative video mike thanks for sharing all your years of experience
Thank you for the sensible advice.
great advise. I like the part about your "Man Idea" LOL Stump grinders are the way to go. The city hired a crew that went around some areas here and cut the trees down with a special tree cutter and then they came in with the grinder. That area so clear it looks like you could farm it. Of course you can;t cause the stumps are still there but beneath the ground now.
Hey Plow Guys (I stop in to visit your channel every now and then!). Check out the links in my comment above for a couple of methods used by the farmers/settlers on how to remove stumps (and turn them into fences once pulled). Of course there was always the use of explosives, too. HA.
Hi Mike I always glad to hear from you. I guess explosives was the lazy mans way of getting the job done. I wonder how people were killed by this method? LOL
I've never tried that one but I have a couple of buddies who have. When they go to sell their houses they may wonder why the foundation has a big crack in it! :)
***** Hey I will. Thanks for checking my little channel out. It is getting bigger slowly. I always have fun with the videos..well ok most of them.
Pushing over dead trees by hand is also a good way to become a dead person if you're not careful. Kids love to do this if they spend much time in the woods and it's important for them to know the dangers.
If you're not paying attention to the top, you'll never see a big section of trunk break off and come right down on your head.
A hundred pounds of tree falling from 15 to 20 feet up onto your head would make for a bad day.
Good info again Mike. Thanks!
I remove a lot of trees and stumps up to about 8" diameter with a tractor. Aspens will almost fall over if you walk toward them with an ax, evergreens are a lot tougher, hardwoods even more so. Cut the tree with a saw as high up as you can SAFELY reach without it jumping off on you. Then hook a chain as high on the stump as possible. This gives your tractor tremendous leverage to pull the stump over and out of the ground, and you don't have to worry about the tree falling on you as you pull. Depending on the sizes of the stump and your tractor, you may need to dig a little and ax some on the roots.
Dead trees will make you DEAD also. Had a close call my self . Glad to be here.
Good tips Mike. I have some trees and shrubs I've been considering pulling out with the tractor, but think I'm going to pass on it.
It’s a lot safer to pay a grader with a CAT963 to push the trees over and move them wherever you want than to risk your life trying to do it yourself. I had 2 acres of woodland Forrest cleared in two 8 hour days for $1,600 stumps and all. That included rough grading the area for pasture land.
People who live on acreage and own tractors like to do things themselves. Instead saying it's dangerous, hire a "professional", how about pointing out ways to do it safely? Those exist you know.
Thank you Mike.
I had a dead ash tree that was a "leaner". I thought I could make it fall only about 20 deg from the lean into an open area. You cannot fight gravity. It fell and pinched against some big oaks. It became what I call a widow maker. I tried cutting the trunk low down about 3/4 and bushing it with the loader. No go. I got it out by lifting and pushing on the biggest branch with the loader. I went real slow in granny gear and managed to get it unstuck. Used my 3 point boom to drag it to the barn and it will be fire wood for next year. I have been felling trees for a lot of years. You MUST pay close attention to where the weight of the tree is located. Also DO NOT fell a large tree on a windy day.
Friend who was an ex SEABEE ran a CAT loader and took down many trees for me to clear some property. He told me to never try with a tractor and its loader as it is not meant for that....I moved plenty of logs with tractor, but left the pushing over of trees to him....his machine was heavy enough to take large trees down. He said to not cut the trees as getting a stump out is harder than pushing over the tree. Now dead trees are widow makers for sure....even he did not want to deal with that....use a come along and tie it low to another tree when carefully cutting it. A guy I knew had a limb fall out of top of tree and it actually went through his forearm....took a long time to heal after a several hour surgery to repair the damage.
I bent my bucket on my Kubota MX5200 doing exactly what you said not to do. 😢
Good info Tractor Mike, but can't say I fully agree. tractors can be an extremely useful tool in felling trees, but there has to be some degree of common sense. I've pushed over many, many trees with my tractors, and yes there is a learning curve to it. the benefit is that you get the root ball and all with it.. Going against the lean; I agree, but often you can 'angle' the lean safely. check out my most recent video: awesome tractor montage, and you'll see alot of tree work. thanks for the nice videos.
Ok Mike, now the tree is down. Please talk on proper technical points on pulling the log out for the mill. My friend died when his log, that he was pulling, got hung up and his tractor did a wheelie over backwards on top of him. Thanks for the great advice ;-)
I'm sorry about your friend...yeah, that's really important to keep the load low, on the drawbar and not the three point. Accidents can happen really fast in those situations.
I'm looking into buying a Kubota BX25 with a backhoe. Do you recommend this for a 5 ar lot. Was going to use the backhoe to trench water lines and remove a small concrete pad. Thanks
Was going to use it to remove some stumps but I going to reconsider after watching that video
Yeah. those are perfect jobs for that package. You'll find other jobs for it as well. Don't let me totally scare you away from digging a small stump or two out. Its like I said, it can be done, it just takes longer than most people think. Now that I've totally lowered your expectations it may be quicker than you think :).
Good video Mike.
Any form of tree removal needs to be done with care.
I'll use the tractor to pull, redirecting the fall, but only with careful consideration.
Mostly, you direct the fall with how you cut the trunk and/or removing selected limbs to make it heavy to the direction you want it to go.
I dug out a big stump with a small tractor once... the tractor fit in the hole before I got the stump out.
It would be better to hire someone with an excavator if you really need it dug out rather than just ground down.
Watch letsdig18 RUclips channel for his tree clearing jobs.
Good sound advice, leave it to the professionals. Pulling trees whilst falling them, certainly large timber, requires a winch & anchors. And a faller who knows his work too. There're are some staggering examples on youtube of lunatics who buy a chainsaw & think that's it, that they can do the job. I was a faller all my working life & was still learning when I finished.
You forgot don't try lifting a tree with a 3 point hitch because it could cause the tractor to tip backwards if the front isn't heavy enough. The better option is to back while dragging it. I've personal never had this happen but I know guys it's happened to.
Hi Mike. I'm that guy you were referring to in the story. I just purchased 30 acres, mainly planted pines with a hardwood creek bottom. I bought a JD970 with a bucket and thought that i could clear a few 2-3 acre areas with it and my trusty chainsaw for food plots.Needless to say, it only took a week for me to realize I was getting nowhere quick. If i wasn't concerned about stumps due to harrowing, plowing and planting, I could probably make due with this process. Just curious how you would attempt this endeavor. I've thrown in the towel for the time being but hope to get started back after it cools off a little down here in south Georgia. I think i will end up cutting down the trees, pulling them out with the tractor, and then maybe renting a bobcat for a day or 2 for stump removal. Does this sound like an acceptable plan of attack? Thanks in advance and keep up the good work on the videos.
I'd recommend looking for someone in your area who does stump grinding. When dad passed away I inherited an orchard of old trees and we've taken a lot of them out. I hired an experienced stump grinding guy for one day and I think I paid him less than $300 (plus I rented the stump grinder and paid for that) and he eliminated all traces of stumps over about ten acres, and I figured that was a lot easier and cheaper than any other way I could have done it. Plus, if I'd have hit one of those stumps with the brush hog I could have done more damage than what it cost to get rid of them. You might be able to rent a skid loader and stump grinder but it would take me a day to figure out how to use it and by the time I got real good at it it would be time to take it back, but that would be my second option. If you're going to be doing that for a long time there are attachment companies that sell PTO stump grinders for your tractor, and you might find one used, but they mount on the back of the tractor so you're looking back over your shoulder all day and I get real tired of that real fast. I think your best option is hiring someone who does that and I bet in an area with as many trees as there are in Georgia, he's out there.
I think this advice is good, but extremely elementary. Tree work is its own field, and although your average dummy with a tractor should heed the advice given in this video:
1. You absolutely can pull fallen logs out of the woods with a tractor. Get a skidding winch and proper equipment.
2. You absolutely can pull stumps with a tractor. Again, get the right equipment. You need a skidding winch, and enough block and tackle (i.e. rigging and snatch blocks) and leverage to do the job. You need to educate yourself, but it's definitely possible.
3. As Mike said: don't use a front end loader as a claw grapple; get a claw grapple if you're going to move timber. Bigger, heavier logs will need to be winched out, possibly with extra mechanical advantage hooked up to a dead anchor.
Mike what do u think of farmtrac 27 horse 4wd with loader with 600 hrs and a brush hog
Farmtrac was a part of Long Agribusiness who declared bankruptcy a few years ago. Before buying better research whether you can still get parts and find someone willing to service. They look like an old Ford but the parts don't interchange.
Something else tree related could be addressed. Skidding logs with a tractor is a very easy way to flip a tractor over. It's especially deadly on an older tractor without a rops. Only takes one split second mistake and your neighbors are attending your funeral.
Excellent point and one I covered in this video: ruclips.net/video/Z2vM72ow3-8/видео.html. A guy can get in trouble really quickly!
Don't recommend pushing a dead tree. The tree top will more than likely break and possibly fall in your direction. That happened once when I was pushed a tree by hand. Widow Makers are named appropriately. Be safe.
What are some general prices for tree removal ? What about prices to grind a stump?
My experience is that it's all over the place. We had the local electric company doing some work in the area with cutting under our power lines and one of their guys put 11 of my dead trees on the ground for $200. A couple of them I had no idea which way they'd fall (one scared the guy who cut it) so I figure that was cheaper than the hospital or burial bills for me doing it. I had a quote for removing all of my stumps for $400, which is more than I'm wiling to pay. That's probably a fair price based on the investment in the equipment and everything, though.
Thanks for the reply and these videos. There really good.
have you seen the 3pt stump grinders any thoughts?
I've never personally used one but I've sold a few. It would be a great tool to own but I' would not let my neighbors know I had it because that's something we'd all like to borrow for a couple of days (well, maybe a week).
this reminds me I had to remove a triple stump tree stump a few months ago darn thing was so big it took me 6 days of digging with the backhoe and the root system was so large I had trouble moving it out of the way with the tractor once dug out had to roll it with the loader then roll it down the dirt bank where I was dumping the dirt luckily because I was digging out the side of the hill there was no hole in the ground by the time i was done
then I had to have a friend fall another tree that tried going backwards and pinched the saw only way we could get it free was chain the tractor to the tree then another rope and 2 guys pulled on the rope to get it to fall to the side while I tried backing the tractor away to unpinch the saw i was so scared the tree was going to go on the tractor but luckily my insistence that they use the rope to pull another direction caused the tree to land right where we wanted it and away from the tractor
Safety comes way ahead of anything else in felling trees. Obviously they can kill you by falling on you, or a house or vehicle. But the limbs can always come down at any time, even after felling (widow makers). On the stump or on the ground, consider a tree spring loaded. A lot of people are injured by kickback of a truck under tension being cut by a saw (barber chairing or just simply releasing tension on you as you cut a felled log). Then there's skidding and bucking; all of them come with a lot of risk. If you haven't got experience felling, hire it done. And even if you have experience, remember PPE (personal protective equipment). Glasses or shield, hardhat (full brim), steel toed boots, gloves, etc. Sawyer's chaps are also a must. If you have to put force on a tree to make it fall where you want it, use ground tackle like block and tackle, heavy ropes, and chain to allow you to pull from somewhere safe and put more tension on a tree than you can by single roping (a doubled block and tackle gives you twice the pulling force over single roping). Invest in the safety in you plan on doing it, tractor or not. I've only been hurt once in the woods, cutting a loaded 1" sapling bent over. It was the worst beating I have ever taken and I should have thought for just a half a second.
Great advice! I don't always wear all the protective clothing but that could save your life. It's like the first wreck I had without a seat belt made me wear seat belts the entire rest of my life, you don't realize how fragile the human body is until there's an accident. I've experienced a lot of sudden releases of force in the days in the timber and you can get surprised pretty quickly when weight and gravity (or stored energy) get together. It's dangerous work...I greatly admire the people who do it for a living and manage to stay safe. Thanks for posting!
Ok, watched your buddies 2 part video and looked to be about a 25hp tractor, wouldn't it be a completely different scenario with a 50hp tractor? Just curious because that's what i plan on doing in the near future...
Big Chris, I'm confused, what 2 part video are you referring to?
Tractor Mike the one where he's digging up the stump
Gotcha, you're asking about digging up stumps. It'll be easier with a 50 hp tractor and a bigger backhoe but it still takes quite a bit of time and makes a big hole. I'd vote to cut them off low and then get a good three point stump grinder and grind the stump down below ground level. It'll take a lot less time.
That guy also wasted a lot of time trying to do the same thing over and over expecting different results. The ramp eventually worked but he could have chained it to the bucket and dragged it out much earlier.
If you think it takes a long time to dig a stump out with a backhoe, you should try it with your front end loader bucket sometime. 🤣🤣🤣
Pulling over trees is much safer, I use a cage from an IBC tote that slides onto the forks of the tractor and I secure it with a chain so it cant slide of. With this home built safety cage I have my dad on the tractor lift me up next to the tree, I wrap a 3/8 choker chain around the tree and attach it to a very long tow strap. Caution, make sure the strap is longer than the tree is tall. Pick one of the lowest gears you have and pull. I own a 50hp tractor and to date the largest tree I have pulled over was nearly 90ft tall.
I like the statement "make sure the strap is longer than the tree is tall". We'd hope everyone figures that out on their own, but some of the stuff you see on RUclips makes you wonder about some people...
Not everyone grew up on a farm, haha.
what about taking a chain and hook it on the loader
I'm worried about your safety and the loader so I'm going to have to recommend against it...sorry!
you can have the same sort of danger when pushing over a dead tree - wear a hard hat if you push over dead trees by hand, and don't do it with a tractor
moving logs with a chain and tractor is super easy
yeah, I can't think of a single reason to use a tractor to down a tree. wrong tool.
Well thank you captain obvious!Seriously sick of people talking out their *** about things they clearly know very little about...