My grandparents would play this everyday on our family vacations at a beach cottage on Lake Huron Ontario. They had a running score that was 20+ years long. I will always remember sitting on their lap, their cute banter, and the sound of the waves in the background.
You guys should publish a custom SUSD 'Cards Games That Don't Suck' card deck, with a rules booklet for all these different games. I imagine having a deck with Matt's face pasted on all the Jacks and Quinns' on the Queens (obviously because of the name comparison) and saying things like "I've got 4 Quins and a Matt". Please make this happen.
Quinns just looking for an excuse to wear his card-themed clothes. I look forward to seeing him in his suit of cards. (Oof, that one was a bit of a stretch. I'll show myself out.)
funny how Quinns can call gambling “salting a meal”, but when i tried to use that phrase to explain where i’d been the last fourty-two hours and why i had incurred a quite frankly turgid debt, my family got variously sad and angry, and my husband left me.
I look forward to the time when Quinns is wearing the entire card clothing set and looks like a villain from a children's card game. On that day someone call Little Kuribo and invite to a game. :)
Sorry for being negative, but there are so many rules goofs and overlaid text clarifications that I can't follow the rules here. This is a 10 minute video, why not just film another take and get it right? I don't want to have to carefully balance what is said with what is written, I just want to know how to play. I just saw Rodney from Watch it Played explain on Twitter that he had to correct and re-upload his Istanbul video four times, it can happen
Totally agree here. It seems most of these Card Games That Don't Suck videos are riddled with rules errors and should just be taken down and reshot. It's embarrassing for a site like SUSD to get MAJOR rules wrong like this. It's one thing to forget to update a tracker in a complex game, but know what a run is in Rummy is fundamental.
@@RocketSauce666 I think part of the issue is that SUSD is normally a game review channel, not comprehensive rules explanation (like Rodney). They play lots of different games and just review them for what makes them good and bad, with a basic overview. That's their thing. These card videos are getting into rules video territory, which is better left to people who have played a ton of the game and can better explain rule nuance. If you're interested in actually learning & playing Gin Rummy, there are lots of other videos on RUclips. Think of these videos as reviews to introduce these games to their regular viewers, where further research is needed if you actually find a game interesting and want a serious go at it.
well these games have thousands of differing local rules, so what you see as error may be a rule, unless there's some official determination of rules that are universal if no house rules apply
@@a_lethe_ion - I mean... this is a fundamental rule. It's not like some fringe corner case where local tradition might vary. If you want to check the rules of games like Rummy, you look at Hoyle's book of card games. Rummy rules are not controversial... this is as basic a rule as you can have in a game like Rummy.
As another fun variation, my family played what we called “500 rum” Everyone gets 7 cards (usually played up to a max of 4 maybe 5 players). Everything plays similar to the version describe in the video expect: The discard is splayed, allowing you to see the entire discard. A player may elect to pick up a card further down in the discard than just the top, but the player must take all cards above that card. You play the sets and runs out in front of you on your turn, if you can/ choose to do so. You are allowed to play off of other people’s sets and runs. When the first player runs out of cards the round is over. For scoring, each numerical card is worth its number value. Each face is worth 10 points. And Aces are worth 15 (unless played in a run of ace, 2, 3. In which case they are only with 1 point). Players with cards remaining subtract those points from their total round score. The round scores are then totaled to see if any player has passed 500 cumulative points (typically 3-5 rounds are needed). If no one has won the race, another round is played! This variant adds a lot of risk reward by picking up a lot of discarded cards to get value from. Because you may see there are 3 8’s laying I the discard. So you can get a total of 24 points by just picking everything up... but you also are picking up 30 points of other cards that you will need to play out. Your also allowed to play as many, or as few sets or runs as you want. So there’s an added risk reward of building up a full hand to play out to end the round with everyone unaware, thus holding a lot of points. But you don’t know if another player is waiting to do the same to you, so it’s risky to hold on to points you could play! I enjoy this variant and it’s one of the primary reason I love playing strategy games today!
I've seen so many versions of this. I only have one question for yours: If you get points for the cards laid in front of you, when you "play" on other's sets, do you play the card in front of you with a nod to their set? Or do you play your card on their set (like in Phase 10), but they will then get those points instead?
Giz03mo we nod/ call out “6 of hearts on mom’s run” I haven’t played the version in awhile, and I think the runs also needed to be of the same suit. But you place the any cards played off of others in front of yourself and score them for yourself at the end of the round.
Love it, definitely have to try that one. In our family was played a lot of rummy, but where you make sets and runs as you go. You can take a card deep in the discard, but you have to take everything on top with it, and you have to immediately use that card (the bottom one you chose) in a set or run. Oh, right, trousers...those will need to be made from that poker table felt...
"Fourteen" - the first word Kylie speaks after over 6 minutes! Do make sure you let your interns talk a bit, even just to say something mean to you! Also, how about a stream where you play all of your gambling card games that don't suck? Could be very entertaining.
Honestly, a very good catch - an especially bad look for us here that hopefully you'll agree is fully rectified by a video coming later this week. We hadn't anticipated that the timing of uploads would make this the first introduction to Kylie for many - it should have been me sitting next to Quinns but we dropped her into it last minute as I was feeling pretty unwell. Anyway! Excuses don't excuse - we'll aim to do better from now on. - Matt
Yeah, I was about to say that it was a nice video, but too bad Kylie didn't get to do more work than a mannequin with a built-in calculator. (It got better the last forty seconds or so.)
Yep, it’s a bit embarrassing. To be fair, apart from laughing at Quinns’s jokes and watching while he explained her hand of cards, she did also admire his shirt, so I guess that’s good...?
@@@shutupandsitdown Glad to hear that you noticed how strange this was. Also glad that you are extending the SUSD team. New faces are new dynamics. All the best for this new adventure!
Another great one! I've always found Gin Rummy to be a very elegant and well-balanced 2-player card game. Thanks for this series of videos! I do hope there's more to come someday!
Canasta is my fav. game in the Rummy family. You're still collecting sets & runs, but you can also draw & manipulate the discard pile in ways that bring a lot of tension into the game. Like blocking or locking the discard pile until someone's able to play a card to defeat the lock, which is exciting, because people often really want to take the discards. You can also play your runs & sets in front of you during play (rather than waiting till the end), which can give your partner in a 4p game the opportunity to play on them, but also give the opponent information about what's still available. It's really fun if basic Gin Rummy is a little dull & repetitive for you.
This is interesting. I've never seen rummy played his way! My mom and grandma always played rummy when we went to visit. They had a notebook that they kept all of their scores in. Sometimes I would play with them. I'm not sure if they added in more decks of cards or not when I played. But the way they played was your entire hand was deadwood. You had to lay down your sets and runs in front of you in order for it to not count against you. You could also tac onto those runs and sets at any time, as long as you've laid down at least one run or set. The discard pile was a bit different as well. Every card in the discard pile was laid out so you could see them, with each card overlapping slightly. You could take any card you wanted, but you would also have to take every card on top of it. This meant you could have a ton of cards in your hand if you wanted to do that. The game went until someone had laid down their entire hand. Then you would add up every card you laid down based on how much they're worth, subtract the deadwood, and that was your score. My mom and grandma always just kept the score running until we left (sometimes it was a few hours, sometimes a couple of weeks) and whoever had the most points at that point was the winner haha Edit- I looked it up and it looks like we always played a variation of 500 Rummy in my house! I've played a few variations of rummy with different people, but I still this 500 Rummy is the best version! They're all fun though!
This is the version of Rummy I learned as a kid. I never knew it's name. We just called it Rummy when I was young, and I started calling it Discard Rummy in college when I encountered other Rummy games.
Giving 11 cards to the non-dealer is a very big advantage (too powerful, imho). In the most "original" rules of Gin Rummy, after the deal phase the first card of the deck is drawn to initiate the discard pile. The non-dealer is then offered the choice to take it, or to pass, and in that case the dealer can take it, or pass, and ultimately, the non-dealer can blindly take a card from the pile. Also, one of the most known variations of Gin rummy is the Big Gin rule. At the very last draw, when you are ready to claim a Gin, if the 11th card can also be used in one of your set/runs, then keep it instead of discard it, and win more points (usually double of a simple Gin). This leads me to the scoring method. You described the traditional 20/10 score system (20 points for a Gin, 10 for an undercut), I'm pretty sure most of american folks will play using the 25/20 score system. Happy Gin everyone, best card game after Cribbage :-)
This series is starting to remind me of the folk games that used to be on the podcasts, with the rules variants as the games are passed from person to person.
Gin Rummy used to be a game that you could play in Casinos. Until Stu Ungar moved there in the eighties. He won so much people would pay him to not enter tournaments, as no one would play if he was playing.
There is also a simpler two-player version called Speed Gin. Taking turns is the same, but the round only ends when a player can make a Gin (full sets, no deadwood). They lay out their cards in the sets for the opponent to verify and confirm, then the opponent totals the value of their own hand. 2-9 are 5 points each, A, K, Q, J are 10 points each. The total value of the opponent's hand is added to THEIR score. You keep playing until someone reaches 300 or 500 points, depending on how long you want to play (the player with the lower score is the winner). The fun of this version is the tense, gunslinger shootout style intensity of never knowing when each turn will be the last and that thrill when you can slam your cards down with a gin, followed by the groan or cursing from your opponent because, of course, they were only one more card away from their own gin. There is another variant that uses jokers in the deck (worth 20 points each for scoring). It speeds the game up even more if you just want fast rounds.
If you like gambling, `Hollywood` Gin is fun. Essentially you`re scoring 3 simultaneous games: your first score goes in column 1, then your next score goes in 1 and 2, and your third goes in columns 1, 2 and 3. This carries on until all 3 columns add up to the previously agreed total (usually 101).
I'd describe it as a mix between rummy and no-limit poker. Mahjong (Riichi specifically) is the only traditional game I've found that gives you that gambler rush without even playing for money.
We also play the rule where you can't knock out unless you have no more than 4 dead cards. It prevents people from knocking out before they've even taken a turn (perhaps because they have no face cards.) If you do by accident, then you lose 50 points.
Interesting. In Uruguay, we play something very similar but with Spanish cards and it's called Conga. Although it's usually a 4+ player game.We also play rummy, but I've never seen this variant of it.
Was anxiously waiting for you to use a regular Bicycle deck for these for once, after finding out you had Theory 11 decks. F***ing love my decks. Look at my decks, everybody.
I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on the game President. It’s probably the card game I spent the most time playing over the years, if we include its specialized variant “The Great Dalmuti”. It’s perhaps more random and less strategic than some other popular games, but the pageantry is really what makes it special.
This is the only game my family can agree to play consistently. Quick enough that you can play it a few times, but complicated enough that nobody feels its been played out
Variant I grew up with: No Knock/Deadwood. you can only go out with Gin. Scoring is simply winner gets 20+round loser's deadwood; Call it quits after someone peaks 100 points. no bonus scoring or gambling ;).
There is a way to always win this game. It happened on a pro player some centuries ago, nobody could beat him because he cracked the game, without revealing his secret.
I really want to play this after watching this video. I just wish I knew what to do if when you reveal your hands your 'deadwood' is tied. Keep up the good work
I played a ton of regular rummy back in high school during speech class. We didn't have a dedicated teacher for it so our band teacher wound up teaching the thing. We didn't do all that much so I'd bring a deck of cards and play rummy with a couple other people.
I feel like some of the endgame scoring is a bit gilding the lily. But that's an easy thing to change. Also, I used to play with a variant that instead of taking the top card of the discard, you could take the entire discard pile and then discard 1 card. Obviously a risky play, but if you can meld a lot of the discards together it's a great way to potentially get extra points or go out sooner.
#suggestion Durak (or however the russians would spell that). During the last two or three years of school we played it basicly every break. But look out there are thousands of varients and some might suck. Also Quinns I'm sorry there is no gambling involved.
Suggestion, it may be hard for someone from across the pond to believe, but there are many people in the world that don't know how to play Cribbage. (Being a 32 year old human and only learning this game last year has been great). I have so much fun playing with my wife and my in-laws.
sets or melds can be 3 or 4 cards or even more if you have a stupid long straight in one suit....also I think an opponent can use ANY of their cards, not just deadwood to complete melds of the person going out
Is it just me or has the audio been weird in the last few videos (Including the Twilight Imperium videos)? Compared e.g. to the "Root (and the Riverfolk Expansion)" video, the voices sound overmodulated (not sure if this is the right word) and I find it very offputting :-/
I know you have the text fixing this, but the mixed suit runs are really irritating and makes the video impossible to recommend. You probably should have redone the video when you realised.
waaait, so you're telling me there's a tabletop card version of numberwang that doesn't suck AND doesn't require massive rooms of rulebooks? i guess, it's time to try a non-poker/non-betting kind of a card game with my best friend I play card games with
So... I can't stand the rummy games. I think it's because a friend of mine used to (and probably still does) like to play them all the time. Really, at any time an excuse could be made to play a card game. But when this friend and I play games now we tend to choose something else. And it's because I've grown bored to tears with the game. And the last two times I played with/against that friend I decided (secretly) that my goal was to do as poorly as possible. Which actually can be a bit of a challenge. The last one we played was the one with the tiles... pretty sure that was it. Anyway, you lay down your "tricks" as you get them, and add on to them as you go, etc. And I tried my best to just not do that, but to also try not to raise suspicions that I was throwing the game. When I felt like I _had to_ put down a trick I made sure it was the lowest scoring one possible that my friend would easily be able to play off of to steal my points away. I had decided that if I was stuck playing this game (because everything else I suggested was vetoed, repeatedly), I was at least going to do it the way I wanted to.
Quinns I like the series but it would be better if it was at least partially scripted like your normal reviews. You are getting at least one rule wrong in most of these videos.
so Romme is not really known in the uk? cause the runs gotta be the same suite. and at least when I grew up everyone in germany knew the basic rules of Romme ^^ no matter where in germany I was.
the trouble is that sloppy rules detract from the fact that Gin Rummy is a really solid card game....did he even mention about laying completed sets down during play is possible?
Maybe you are playing a special version where runs don't have to be the same suit, but the OFFICIAL rules state that runs DO have to be in the same suit.
@@kespeth2 They did clarify in the text that runs have to be suited - but also quite possibly that was just Quinns not paying attention and making a run of four red cards..
My grandparents would play this everyday on our family vacations at a beach cottage on Lake Huron Ontario. They had a running score that was 20+ years long. I will always remember sitting on their lap, their cute banter, and the sound of the waves in the background.
This, and Canasta was the family jam! Please do Canasta on CGTDS.
What was the score?
You guys should publish a custom SUSD 'Cards Games That Don't Suck' card deck, with a rules booklet for all these different games. I imagine having a deck with Matt's face pasted on all the Jacks and Quinns' on the Queens (obviously because of the name comparison) and saying things like "I've got 4 Quins and a Matt". Please make this happen.
I’d buy that
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This is such a good idea
oh my god please yes
I've got a suspicion that maybe Quinn's just likes gambling and is hiding it behind a facade of interesting card games
Quinns just looking for an excuse to wear his card-themed clothes. I look forward to seeing him in his suit of cards. (Oof, that one was a bit of a stretch. I'll show myself out.)
funny how Quinns can call gambling “salting a meal”, but when i tried to use that phrase to explain where i’d been the last fourty-two hours and why i had incurred a quite frankly turgid debt, my family got variously sad and angry, and my husband left me.
I look forward to the time when Quinns is wearing the entire card clothing set and looks like a villain from a children's card game. On that day someone call Little Kuribo and invite to a game. :)
Sorry for being negative, but there are so many rules goofs and overlaid text clarifications that I can't follow the rules here. This is a 10 minute video, why not just film another take and get it right? I don't want to have to carefully balance what is said with what is written, I just want to know how to play. I just saw Rodney from Watch it Played explain on Twitter that he had to correct and re-upload his Istanbul video four times, it can happen
Louis M I don’t mind the clarifications, I just wanted to say Rodney’s awesome. Top notch tutorials & game play.
Totally agree here. It seems most of these Card Games That Don't Suck videos are riddled with rules errors and should just be taken down and reshot. It's embarrassing for a site like SUSD to get MAJOR rules wrong like this. It's one thing to forget to update a tracker in a complex game, but know what a run is in Rummy is fundamental.
@@RocketSauce666 I think part of the issue is that SUSD is normally a game review channel, not comprehensive rules explanation (like Rodney). They play lots of different games and just review them for what makes them good and bad, with a basic overview. That's their thing. These card videos are getting into rules video territory, which is better left to people who have played a ton of the game and can better explain rule nuance. If you're interested in actually learning & playing Gin Rummy, there are lots of other videos on RUclips. Think of these videos as reviews to introduce these games to their regular viewers, where further research is needed if you actually find a game interesting and want a serious go at it.
well these games have thousands of differing local rules, so what you see as error may be a rule, unless there's some official determination of rules that are universal if no house rules apply
@@a_lethe_ion - I mean... this is a fundamental rule. It's not like some fringe corner case where local tradition might vary. If you want to check the rules of games like Rummy, you look at Hoyle's book of card games. Rummy rules are not controversial... this is as basic a rule as you can have in a game like Rummy.
As another fun variation, my family played what we called “500 rum”
Everyone gets 7 cards (usually played up to a max of 4 maybe 5 players).
Everything plays similar to the version describe in the video expect:
The discard is splayed, allowing you to see the entire discard. A player may elect to pick up a card further down in the discard than just the top, but the player must take all cards above that card.
You play the sets and runs out in front of you on your turn, if you can/ choose to do so.
You are allowed to play off of other people’s sets and runs.
When the first player runs out of cards the round is over.
For scoring, each numerical card is worth its number value. Each face is worth 10 points. And Aces are worth 15 (unless played in a run of ace, 2, 3. In which case they are only with 1 point). Players with cards remaining subtract those points from their total round score.
The round scores are then totaled to see if any player has passed 500 cumulative points (typically 3-5 rounds are needed). If no one has won the race, another round is played!
This variant adds a lot of risk reward by picking up a lot of discarded cards to get value from. Because you may see there are 3 8’s laying I the discard. So you can get a total of 24 points by just picking everything up... but you also are picking up 30 points of other cards that you will need to play out.
Your also allowed to play as many, or as few sets or runs as you want. So there’s an added risk reward of building up a full hand to play out to end the round with everyone unaware, thus holding a lot of points. But you don’t know if another player is waiting to do the same to you, so it’s risky to hold on to points you could play!
I enjoy this variant and it’s one of the primary reason I love playing strategy games today!
This was the version that I grew up playing, as well! The first time someone wanted to play gin rummy I was incredibly confused.
I've seen so many versions of this. I only have one question for yours: If you get points for the cards laid in front of you, when you "play" on other's sets, do you play the card in front of you with a nod to their set? Or do you play your card on their set (like in Phase 10), but they will then get those points instead?
Giz03mo we nod/ call out “6 of hearts on mom’s run”
I haven’t played the version in awhile, and I think the runs also needed to be of the same suit.
But you place the any cards played off of others in front of yourself and score them for yourself at the end of the round.
Love it, definitely have to try that one. In our family was played a lot of rummy, but where you make sets and runs as you go. You can take a card deep in the discard, but you have to take everything on top with it, and you have to immediately use that card (the bottom one you chose) in a set or run. Oh, right, trousers...those will need to be made from that poker table felt...
"Fourteen" - the first word Kylie speaks after over 6 minutes! Do make sure you let your interns talk a bit, even just to say something mean to you!
Also, how about a stream where you play all of your gambling card games that don't suck? Could be very entertaining.
Honestly, a very good catch - an especially bad look for us here that hopefully you'll agree is fully rectified by a video coming later this week. We hadn't anticipated that the timing of uploads would make this the first introduction to Kylie for many - it should have been me sitting next to Quinns but we dropped her into it last minute as I was feeling pretty unwell. Anyway! Excuses don't excuse - we'll aim to do better from now on. - Matt
Yeah, I was about to say that it was a nice video, but too bad Kylie didn't get to do more work than a mannequin with a built-in calculator. (It got better the last forty seconds or so.)
Yep, it’s a bit embarrassing. To be fair, apart from laughing at Quinns’s jokes and watching while he explained her hand of cards, she did also admire his shirt, so I guess that’s good...?
@@@shutupandsitdown Glad to hear that you noticed how strange this was. Also glad that you are extending the SUSD team. New faces are new dynamics. All the best for this new adventure!
Another great one! I've always found Gin Rummy to be a very elegant and well-balanced 2-player card game. Thanks for this series of videos! I do hope there's more to come someday!
Canasta is my fav. game in the Rummy family. You're still collecting sets & runs, but you can also draw & manipulate the discard pile in ways that bring a lot of tension into the game. Like blocking or locking the discard pile until someone's able to play a card to defeat the lock, which is exciting, because people often really want to take the discards. You can also play your runs & sets in front of you during play (rather than waiting till the end), which can give your partner in a 4p game the opportunity to play on them, but also give the opponent information about what's still available. It's really fun if basic Gin Rummy is a little dull & repetitive for you.
This is interesting. I've never seen rummy played his way! My mom and grandma always played rummy when we went to visit. They had a notebook that they kept all of their scores in. Sometimes I would play with them. I'm not sure if they added in more decks of cards or not when I played. But the way they played was your entire hand was deadwood. You had to lay down your sets and runs in front of you in order for it to not count against you. You could also tac onto those runs and sets at any time, as long as you've laid down at least one run or set. The discard pile was a bit different as well. Every card in the discard pile was laid out so you could see them, with each card overlapping slightly. You could take any card you wanted, but you would also have to take every card on top of it. This meant you could have a ton of cards in your hand if you wanted to do that. The game went until someone had laid down their entire hand. Then you would add up every card you laid down based on how much they're worth, subtract the deadwood, and that was your score. My mom and grandma always just kept the score running until we left (sometimes it was a few hours, sometimes a couple of weeks) and whoever had the most points at that point was the winner haha
Edit- I looked it up and it looks like we always played a variation of 500 Rummy in my house! I've played a few variations of rummy with different people, but I still this 500 Rummy is the best version! They're all fun though!
This is the version of Rummy I learned as a kid. I never knew it's name. We just called it Rummy when I was young, and I started calling it Discard Rummy in college when I encountered other Rummy games.
He did make another mistake; you won't ever have less than 10 cards in hand, but his example of not going Gin only has 9. Time to give the shirt back.
Giving 11 cards to the non-dealer is a very big advantage (too powerful, imho). In the most "original" rules of Gin Rummy, after the deal phase the first card of the deck is drawn to initiate the discard pile. The non-dealer is then offered the choice to take it, or to pass, and in that case the dealer can take it, or pass, and ultimately, the non-dealer can blindly take a card from the pile. Also, one of the most known variations of Gin rummy is the Big Gin rule. At the very last draw, when you are ready to claim a Gin, if the 11th card can also be used in one of your set/runs, then keep it instead of discard it, and win more points (usually double of a simple Gin). This leads me to the scoring method. You described the traditional 20/10 score system (20 points for a Gin, 10 for an undercut), I'm pretty sure most of american folks will play using the 25/20 score system. Happy Gin everyone, best card game after Cribbage :-)
This series is starting to remind me of the folk games that used to be on the podcasts, with the rules variants as the games are passed from person to person.
Gin Rummy used to be a game that you could play in Casinos. Until Stu Ungar moved there in the eighties. He won so much people would pay him to not enter tournaments, as no one would play if he was playing.
1. Cribbage; 2. two-handed (old-time) Pinochle and 3. Gin Rummy are my Top3 traditional 2-player card games
Cribbage slaps 👌
Cribbage is indeed the very best, I hope SUSD gives it a spotlight soon!
And 2-player variant of Spades isn't bad.
I just learned cribbage but hubby is resistant to learn! I need to find new friends.
There is also a simpler two-player version called Speed Gin. Taking turns is the same, but the round only ends when a player can make a Gin (full sets, no deadwood). They lay out their cards in the sets for the opponent to verify and confirm, then the opponent totals the value of their own hand. 2-9 are 5 points each, A, K, Q, J are 10 points each. The total value of the opponent's hand is added to THEIR score. You keep playing until someone reaches 300 or 500 points, depending on how long you want to play (the player with the lower score is the winner). The fun of this version is the tense, gunslinger shootout style intensity of never knowing when each turn will be the last and that thrill when you can slam your cards down with a gin, followed by the groan or cursing from your opponent because, of course, they were only one more card away from their own gin. There is another variant that uses jokers in the deck (worth 20 points each for scoring). It speeds the game up even more if you just want fast rounds.
If you like gambling, `Hollywood` Gin is fun. Essentially you`re scoring 3 simultaneous games: your first score goes in column 1, then your next score goes in 1 and 2, and your third goes in columns 1, 2 and 3. This carries on until all 3 columns add up to the previously agreed total (usually 101).
This seems really similar to Mahjong, which made it insanely simple for me to grasp the game.
i find mahjong to be a better game... once you learn every nuanced hand XD
That's how I explain Mahjong to people. "It's like rummy..."
I'd describe it as a mix between rummy and no-limit poker. Mahjong (Riichi specifically) is the only traditional game I've found that gives you that gambler rush without even playing for money.
We also play the rule where you can't knock out unless you have no more than 4 dead cards. It prevents people from knocking out before they've even taken a turn (perhaps because they have no face cards.) If you do by accident, then you lose 50 points.
Interesting. In Uruguay, we play something very similar but with Spanish cards and it's called Conga. Although it's usually a 4+ player game.We also play rummy, but I've never seen this variant of it.
Was anxiously waiting for you to use a regular Bicycle deck for these for once, after finding out you had Theory 11 decks. F***ing love my decks. Look at my decks, everybody.
I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on the game President. It’s probably the card game I spent the most time playing over the years, if we include its specialized variant “The Great Dalmuti”. It’s perhaps more random and less strategic than some other popular games, but the pageantry is really what makes it special.
President is cool
This is the only game my family can agree to play consistently. Quick enough that you can play it a few times, but complicated enough that nobody feels its been played out
Honestly, I could just watch Quinn's and Matt's antics for enjoyment. They don't even need to make reviews at this point!
Variant I grew up with: No Knock/Deadwood. you can only go out with Gin. Scoring is simply winner gets 20+round loser's deadwood; Call it quits after someone peaks 100 points. no bonus scoring or gambling ;).
When it comes to rummy-style games, I prefer Rummikub (or equivalents with cards) - I'm all about the re-melding.
LOVE Rummikub!!!
A card game I like is Golf, it's a long game played with multiple people, but is always a good way to spend the night.
There is a way to always win this game. It happened on a pro player some centuries ago, nobody could beat him because he cracked the game, without revealing his secret.
I'm glad you mentioned Numberwang, and look forward to you reviewing the home game in a future episode of this series
Ja! Das ist Nummerwang!
Bharg is the Decktet version of Gin Rummy. It's also a lot of fun, and there are many amazing games you can play with a Decktet deck.
I miss this series 😭
Chris Bratt is a national treasure
I really want to play this after watching this video. I just wish I knew what to do if when you reveal your hands your 'deadwood' is tied.
Keep up the good work
I played a ton of regular rummy back in high school during speech class. We didn't have a dedicated teacher for it so our band teacher wound up teaching the thing. We didn't do all that much so I'd bring a deck of cards and play rummy with a couple other people.
I always played that runs had to be the same suit, anyone else?
Everyone does. It was a rule goof
This is like mahjoing for people who don't have mahjong sets!
I feel like some of the endgame scoring is a bit gilding the lily. But that's an easy thing to change. Also, I used to play with a variant that instead of taking the top card of the discard, you could take the entire discard pile and then discard 1 card. Obviously a risky play, but if you can meld a lot of the discards together it's a great way to potentially get extra points or go out sooner.
9:13 The card! Pick up that damn card! Is it still on the floor? Pure pure card...
Played this om the train. I was a bit suprised how quickly rounds end
#suggestion Cucumber, also known as 'agurk'. Great game that's easy to learn and incredibly tense.
Love 7 card rummy and shouting out ‘ GIN RUMMY ‘
#suggestion Durak (or however the russians would spell that). During the last two or three years of school we played it basicly every break. But look out there are thousands of varients and some might suck. Also Quinns I'm sorry there is no gambling involved.
Matching trousers would be appropriate. Yes.
FYI, you must knock.
Suggestion, it may be hard for someone from across the pond to believe, but there are many people in the world that don't know how to play Cribbage. (Being a 32 year old human and only learning this game last year has been great). I have so much fun playing with my wife and my in-laws.
Review riichi mahjong!
Trousers? A shirt like that deserves pantaloons. Big, blooming pantaloons.
Or just make it a romper.
I'm starving for the next episode of Quinn's card games that you want to introduce to your colleagues!
I am wondering that can I look at the discard pile? Thanks
This series is very important to me.
sets or melds can be 3 or 4 cards or even more if you have a stupid long straight in one suit....also I think an opponent can use ANY of their cards, not just deadwood to complete melds of the person going out
Is it just me or has the audio been weird in the last few videos (Including the Twilight Imperium videos)? Compared e.g. to the "Root (and the Riverfolk Expansion)" video, the voices sound overmodulated (not sure if this is the right word) and I find it very offputting :-/
That's Numberwang!
Quinns...that shirt. Your my hero.
I’ve played rummy for yeeeeears, I love it
Ah - so this is Phase 10's ancestor. Gotcha.
Also, I've found another shirt that Matt should get for Quinns:
www.customink.com/fundraising/dragonstomb
I know you have the text fixing this, but the mixed suit runs are really irritating and makes the video impossible to recommend. You probably should have redone the video when you realised.
...you still could, you know.
"Runs" have to be in the same suit. Mistake at 2:10. hahaha
The shirt made the video, well done.
aaaand were back
Do cribbage. Also need some more extravagance.
So why was this taken down breifly?
The censorbots found the shirt too offensive.
waaait, so you're telling me there's a tabletop card version of numberwang that doesn't suck AND doesn't require massive rooms of rulebooks? i guess, it's time to try a non-poker/non-betting kind of a card game with my best friend I play card games with
First of all, you need to play a few of these at the next SHUX on stage. Secondly, Quinns had to wear this shirt at that panel!
TIL that the game my family calls ‘gin rummy’ isn’t the same as what everyone else thinks...
Is that a tattoo of the old VMWare logo?
I love Kylie! 😍
Seems like Fantasy Realms is a variation on this game
Talk about Hand and Foot!
i play that its 25 points for an undercut or gin
Wrong suits!! Man I don’t see the disclaimer and had a huge debate with my daughter that this was wrong!
Quinns has to put on a bandanna
Why aren't your runs suited?
Is that a netrunner tattoo on your elbow?
So... I can't stand the rummy games. I think it's because a friend of mine used to (and probably still does) like to play them all the time. Really, at any time an excuse could be made to play a card game. But when this friend and I play games now we tend to choose something else. And it's because I've grown bored to tears with the game. And the last two times I played with/against that friend I decided (secretly) that my goal was to do as poorly as possible. Which actually can be a bit of a challenge. The last one we played was the one with the tiles... pretty sure that was it. Anyway, you lay down your "tricks" as you get them, and add on to them as you go, etc. And I tried my best to just not do that, but to also try not to raise suspicions that I was throwing the game. When I felt like I _had to_ put down a trick I made sure it was the lowest scoring one possible that my friend would easily be able to play off of to steal my points away. I had decided that if I was stuck playing this game (because everything else I suggested was vetoed, repeatedly), I was at least going to do it the way I wanted to.
Scopa is another great game
Quinns I like the series but it would be better if it was at least partially scripted like your normal reviews. You are getting at least one rule wrong in most of these videos.
Gin Rummy Extra is the best
Agree with you
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so Romme is not really known in the uk? cause the runs gotta be the same suite. and at least when I grew up everyone in germany knew the basic rules of Romme ^^ no matter where in germany I was.
Canasta?
The scoring of this game is clearly unbalanced.
I feel like that tattoo on the elbow is a Netrunner reference... the symbol for Link.....
Pretty sure he said at some point he has the credit symbol tattooed somewhere as well.
Play Cribbage
Why is Kylie so DAMN CUTE
Good teach on this one
So this is like coquian
Can I have Quinns' shirt?
jesus christ that shirt!
NUMBERWANG!!!!!
Classic game!
Gin Rummy is a lovely time for lovely people when you have time with another person.
Good gravy! How badly do you have to flub the rules and explanation before you reshoot the whole thing?
the trouble is that sloppy rules detract from the fact that Gin Rummy is a really solid card game....did he even mention about laying completed sets down during play is possible?
dante ferno )(8
3:28 Not a Gin hand...The 8 is the wrong suit.
Maybe you are playing a special version where runs don't have to be the same suit, but the OFFICIAL rules state that runs DO have to be in the same suit.
@@kespeth2 They did clarify in the text that runs have to be suited - but also quite possibly that was just Quinns not paying attention and making a run of four red cards..
@@Table53 Her "run" was even more mixed suits lol
I propose he keep the shirt anyway.
Those are some pretty embarrassing rules goofs :/
Sorry Quinns, these videos just remind me that card games suck 😕
That girl talks too much.