I have a 14 year old with severe nonverbal autism and I concur. I feel that some details are being kept private out of respect for this young man, but they are relevant when someone goes missing.
Same thing with my grandson when he was younger. Total melt downs were common at home and in grade school. Going to the doctor's was the worst for him all the time as he hated being checked over or shots. Epic proportion melt downs there. Otherwise he was a sweet, curious and loving child. Now he is a teenager and doing extremely well indeed.
As an autistic adult, my meltdowns happen mostly on the inside now but I am still overwhelmed by the urge to punch myself in the face lol. For the record, I'm thirty. Fully functional and I can socialize, I just choose not to. Im capable of long term committed relationships with just one person and I really value my family. I'm educated and employable. I'm a really hard worker. Because I become hyper fixated for long periods on one task and want to control everything around me, I burn out and am more prone to outbursts. I now work from home and have turned small profits from my hobbies. I'm capable of managing my own finances and my obsessive need for order keeps the house relatively tidy. Sorry for the spiel, not sure where your daughters at or the severity of her condition but I wanted to speak to any parents of autistic children who see this thread
Must be black holes or a Bermuda triangle in Tennessee with all these missing children. Come on TBI do your jobs and start finding out what the heck is happening down there already
@@MichelleAfterDarkI’m from Hendersonville. My kids went to Beech. That area he lived is probably one of the safest places to live. He didn’t just leave and walk down long hollow pike. Is it possible he was in contact with someone from school that would have lured him out? I know everyone is focused on parents but if it was them how have they not been arrested yet?
@@christylee9552 I've lived in Hendersonville my whole life. I live 5miles from Sebastians. Graduated from Beech in '03. This doesn't happen here. There's been maybe a handful of murders. There have been a couple kids that have wandered off, but were found short time after and teens that run away and also found, but we don't have people luring kids out of their homes or wandering around neighborhoods snatching up kids in the middle of the night. He definitely didn't walk off cause He would of been found in the first day or two. They checked all their devices. They would found some kind of evidence of him talking to someone online or his phone by now..
Perhaps she’s not thinking clearly? Perhaps Chris is so concerned about how he is being perceived that he asked her to come with him with no real plan? Does anyone know when Chris actually left Memphis and got home after the report was made over the phone?
Love your doggos Michelle. Nice land too. Riley's parents had a second independent autopsy done. The toxicology reports are pending and could take ar least a couple more weeks. According to Channel 5 News, Rileys family stated that in the meantime they are just focusing on laying their son to rest. As for Sebastian, it's sad to think that he was living in chaos at times, such a beautiful smile. Thanks Michelle💚
The scent hit/no scent hit is infuriating!!! As far as the allegations in the divorce paperwork, I doubt he'd be allowed to work as a deputy sheriff & carry a firearm if any of it was found to be true. Just saying.... Thank you, Michelle for your coverage! Sebastian needs all the help he can get to be found! 💚
Yes some do and the same can be said of some military with ptsd or TBI. But not all. Loads of possibilities in this case of all the adults and of some teens. But I don’t think that of Sebastian. Bless his heart. Him hurting himself must scare him afterwards when he calms down.
I think Riley died from his head injury. I do think it is possible Riley was functioning with a traumatic brain injury from his fall into the concrete pole base. Poor Riley, he had a bad night.
I think this has become one of my favorite channels! For one your accent ROCKS, and you get straight to it with the facts! Another great video! Thanks for all you do!
Good morning Michelle and pups! Ty for always keeping us updated on all these tragic cases. Imo Mother is a liar, and the the fact her and Chris are in an RV out of the state speaks volumes. 🙏💚🙏
Thank you so much for all the accurate information. I know the gears in ya brain are constantly turning on these cases. I hope Sebastian is found safe. I pray that for him everyday. I wanted Riley to be safe 😢 & the stress of these souls in limbo does consume our thoughts day & night
Thank you so much for breaking this all down for us, i heard the call, but could not understand what the heck they were saying, thank you so much for help understanding 😊
You appear to have missed that the officer that saw the footprints references MAX tracking to there. He has a dog with him "Max led me straight into the retaining pond."
Thank you so much for covering this so well. It helps so very much to keep our minds from wheeling out of the realm of reasonable possibilities to hear more facts. Then we can concentrate on clearer on on Sebastian’s possible reasoning however limited or driven by what upset him and the possible “path” he chose to take weather he had a destination in mind or not. Bless his heart. He has to be so confused. I’m wondering if he ever attempted to go out of the house before when upset and was seen & brought back in. Or returned on his own?
Thank you for explaining what could have happened with Riley’s pants and boots and lungs. That really gave me pause. I’d hoped that you would mention it sometime!
The biological dad is looking handing out flyers searching on the ground for his son ..it breaks my heart seeing him cry this is a parents worse nightmare my question is where is the mom and stepdad are they searching or handing out flyers I haven't seen anything...I believe the mom and stepdad know something more than what they are saying I couldn't go anywhere but search if this was my child but they went away in Thier RV please that's not what I would do if my kid was missing something isn't right ..
🌻 Autistic childern are extra sensitive and emotional and saying the wrong thing or showing any sign's of disapproval well effect them 10 time's worse than anyone could imagine 🌻 🙏 Sebastian 🙏
It’s a weird way we talk about them. No one disappears or vanishes, not really, not usually Usually when we hear about them, law enforcement is looking for them, and there is someone who contacted law enforcement, and there is usually someone who last saw the person when they were alive and well. I was thinking about this the other day: we call them Missing Persons cases, but it’s more like Mystery case for law enforcement. Someone knows what happened February 26 with Sebastian, even if it was just he himself planning a trip. If he drove off with a stranger, or a family member, they know the next part of the what happened. They might know where Sebastian is now. Back to your question . What do we have too much of lately? I think it’s people treating others, especially their own children, as disposable. If they’re too much trouble, you can get rid of them. It seems like it goes along with people treating themselves as if they are garbage. Idk if Katie or Chris took drugs. That area of the country though is high. They don’t care if their meth is laced with fenty; people are dying of meth, therefore their children are born with chromosomal damage , are difficult to raise, and a constant reminder that you’re supposed to take care of a life and act loving.
I do not think he is dead. I think someone is helping him hide but not sure if it’s a friend or stranger or his mom is in on it. The weather was 25*F so I don’t think he would get far barefoot.
I agree or maybe it’s a scam for donations or life insurance because the mother does not come across very concerned. I think most mothers would be inconsolable, distraught and devastated she seems so abnormal.
I'm so confused because Seth JUST stated on FoxNashville that there were NO scents ever picked up, from all the information he's gotten 😮 🤔 Everything keeps changing.
I’m sorry that you got beat as a child and traumatized, but being spanked NO MORE THAN A COUPLE OF TIMES for discipline when misbehaving as a child, is totally okay.
@IceyyUS no its absolutely not okay. If as an adult you did wrong by someone would you justify being hit with a belt? Not sure where you live but where I am that would be classed as assault which you would be arrested for. Why is it okay for parents to hit their children? The other issue is an autistic child who may struggle to regulate their emotions needs help and support not to be hit by a grown adult. Look at the size of Chris vs the size of Sebastian!
@@babyboyz100 think about it this way, would you rather spank your child and show them consequences or have them know zero consequences and end up going to prison because they can’t comprehend actions have consequences? Like I said as long as you aren’t swinging with the full force of a grown man, it is okay. Being spanked should be used as a very last resort and for more serious actions, not for lying like Chris proudfoot said.
I didn't want to say anything, I didn't want people to go after me because I appreciated how much Seth was spreading awareness and searching for Sebastian. But he gave me slightly "off" vibes. I didn't really know why. Maybe he reminded me of someone from my past that my subconscious is recognizing, idk. But I'm also trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, clearly we don't know everything in these cases. And I suspect like you that the truth is more in between from the parents' past. I think again, it's hard to know in general what's true and not from the whole situation, from the TBI not sharing much and not exactly sure what to think of the parents. It's easy to fall into prejudgement so I try not to do that as much. But yeah. I think Sebastian had reason to leave in some form. We just don't have all the pieces to put together yet. Side note, I've had dreams before that featured Summer Wells. Sometimes I find her, sometimes I "witness" someone taking her away somewhere. Pretty sure I was just thinking too hard about her missing in general 🥺. So I get that.
I respect your stance. I also do my best to walk in justice for all. The requirements for us to act Justly, love mercy and be humble before God is not that hard to do, or too much to ask for. Keep striving in love, justice and grace. ❤
@@ajordan1976 Well, that entirely shifts my perspective! Where did you get the info? i want to watch the vid (i presume it's a vid lol, isn't everything?)
@@noelinerenwick5347 The new custody agreement was 'allegedly' a private one between the bio parents. Seth himself said Sebastian never told him the step was being abusive.
Yes dad didn't know about the abuse. He wasn't even told that CPS had been to the mothers home. He only found out recently and through a podcast of all places! That's just awful. I want to believe dad is innocent in all this but honestly everyone is a suspect until they are proven not to be
I still have to wonder, though, if he ran away after finding out that he was going to live with his father. Wishful thinking on my part. That would mean that there’s a chance that he’s still with us.
@@heather3193 I am not perturbed by which parents said what. The facts are that foot prints were detected but they were not Sebastian’s based on the tracker dogs’ response. The fact that they drained the retention pond might be why both parents think it was a hit for the tracker dogs. The officers clearly say the dogs didn’t pick up anything.
@ThriveCollective1188 so, how did the tracking dogs follow to the footprints? Whose scent were they following? They followed scent from the home to the footprints at the pond. Make it make sense.
Still Sebastian wouldn’t have run off without shoes. I’m SO glad you shared the paperwork. I think it’s highly suspect that the very things that Katie stated happened during her marriage to Seth people are refusing to look at. They said they’ve seen the photos and they’re doctored. Made me take them down. One person agreed with me how incriminating this paperwork was BUT all Of a sudden when she realized it was SETH she did a complete about face. There is strong confirmation bias going on here and it’s completely unfair. I think the wrong monster is being picked apart on every platform.
You are the first one I’ve seen who has dared to question Seth. I’m subscribing to your channel for that reason. I have suspected his crocodile tears, publicly blaming Katie and playing the victim since this whole thing began.
I think the retention pond, the culvert that leads to and from it and the drain itself need searched in their entirety, from end to end. It makes no sense that his scent lead there, the responding deputy with K-9 saw footprints there leading into the pond and poof, he's vanished. I know they say it was drained, but I've heard it was not fully drained either. They need to go back to square 1 and look again.
I'd assume that with such damning claims and a lack of evidence, that they 100% would follow up with teachers on the abuse accusation. The mother directly indicates that his teachers and school administrators witnessed violent incidences firsthand. That would be an incredible lie to tell considering it's so easy to verify
In Katie's written statement she said she learned the school had reported to CPS a week prior to her dropping off the RO papers. So there should be plenty other records that are unknown to the public at this time. Ugly divorce or not, I tend to believe something was happening to elicit the school to do that.
I’m very sorry for Riley Strains family having to go through this. And as for darlin Sebastian I think every scenario & theory has been explored and I don’t know what has become of him. It’s just so sad for all the family 💚💚💚. Thanks Michelle x
Seth was on The Lab last night with Josh and Trevor. Someone in chat asked why Seth allowed the abuse by Chris. His answer was heartbreaking. He said he didn't know about it and if he had Sebastian would have come to live with him. He was heartbroken because Sebastian never told him about it. I have a hard time believing that Seth physically abused Sebastian as stated in those papers. But I realize divorces get messy and a lot of things are said and done in anger and revenge. Seth appears to be straightforward, honest and believable and obviously he loves Sebastian.
don't know the truth but i do know your someone ppl need to avoid as your fooled by manner and a smile just as abuser use on kids not saying dad is not nice guy but also his manners don't make me go ok hes a saint
@@ajordan1976 According to Seth LE told him those lights were the garbage trucks not flashlights. No scent and never caught on camera? I don't think he walked out of that house.
Yup. I realize how many people need a good ear cleaning when I hear misinformation like this. Way too much misquoting followed by people quoting the hearsay rather than going to the source and checking it out themselves so it often goes unchecked.
at 7 (especially for a disabled child) the script should be "let's clean your room together so you can go swimming today". A mutual effort for a clearly defined reward. Not, "if you dont clean your room, you can't go swimming" - that's a recipe for defiance and disaster
Something that I'm surprised no one's talking about is this. Chris and Sebastian's mom did a interview with a RUclipsr. I forget who it was but she asked if they had security cameras outside the house and they answered no. The next question asked if they had indoor security cameras and Chris answered yes with a big smirk on his face like that was his ace in the hole. He than said he couldn't elaborate anymore on that. Well either they have footage of Sebastian walking around the house and leaving or that's A BIG FAT LIE. Either way neither them or the police have elaborated anymore on that statement
Yes, they have tracks going into the construction site.Can anyone else tell me who would be very familiar with a construction site?And what he could and couldn't get away with to hide a body
The footprints are interesting in Sebastians case, gives more hope he's hiding out with someone. If I fell into water I'd try and kick my shoes and pants off to be able to swim.
If a current is moving head to tail, it will take your pants and shoes off. If a current is moving ass to teakettle then it will take your shirt and hat@@galeocean4182
If you were in the water, pulling off your boots and tight skinny leg jeans, wouldn't your socks have come off too? That part seems odd.... he still had socks on.
Seth said he hated dirty water and the water wasn't very deep from what I understand. He was not seen on camera and I think there was no scent of Sebastian there.
I keep wondering if he could he have been groomed by someone? There was a case a few years ago where a teacher groomed a girl, ended up kidnapping her and going on the run. They were eventually found and the girl was returned. I believe it was out of Tennessee, as well. That's just one of the scenarios going through my head.
My point about the tracks was that they were not tracking with dogs at that time. I wasn't saying that they didn't track him near the pond. Just that they didnt have scent dogs out their yet when this dispatch call was made.
I think your dream does reflect how much you are thinking about this case, I have done the same...IMO this case is another 411 missing it fits the pattern I have read case after case w/ similar things going on. It's not someone it's something...you have to research the cases on 411 missing and you will definitely understand. great case points Michelle
I have been trying to get data on Drakes creek. Measuring gauges arent up and running yet unfortunately but historic photos from google street view from various bridges downstream do show high volumes for this of year in the past. Its possible he is in it as ""Rivers are notoriously hard to search""
Rivers are notoriously hard to search, yes. Drakes creek meets the Cumberland river around 5 miles south of Sebastian's house. If Drakes creek is deep enough to wash a body 5 miles downstream it is very possible he could be in the river, if he entered the creek near his school.
Where can I read all these documents? I find it interesting that Seth said in an interview that he told Sebastian that he was giving him one more chance until he would have to come live there, think because of problems at school. And now, Sebastian was set to move in with Seth when school is out. It's almost like Sebastian was going to be more given stricter discipline at Seth's. As far as the claims of Seth hitting Sebastian in the head, I'm not so sure about that. Seth could go to prison for something like that which could result in Sebastian's death. What if, just what if... Sebastian really did run away because he's afraid to live with his dad and what we're seeing from Seth is a display of guilty conscience?
I believe Seth has been playing the court of public opinion since the start of this. He gained sympathy right away, playing the victim, making himself out to be the perfect parent, making Katie look like a monster. There is more to this, and I don’t trust him at all.
It says a lot to me that Seth is still actively searching.
I just wish they find him and bring him home. It goes beyond sad.
Oh dear, Sebastian! Where are you young man? ♥️🕯
Sebastian’s outburst are very common of autistic children as well as adults. I have an autistic daughter I state this as a fact.
I have autistic grandchildren. Yes it is true
Same with my 25 yr old. They are lesser now, but they were so hard to help her through when she was younger.
I have a 14 year old with severe nonverbal autism and I concur. I feel that some details are being kept private out of respect for this young man, but they are relevant when someone goes missing.
Same thing with my grandson when he was younger. Total melt downs were common at home and in grade school. Going to the doctor's was the worst for him all the time as he hated being checked over or shots. Epic proportion melt downs there. Otherwise he was a sweet, curious and loving child. Now he is a teenager and doing extremely well indeed.
As an autistic adult, my meltdowns happen mostly on the inside now but I am still overwhelmed by the urge to punch myself in the face lol.
For the record, I'm thirty. Fully functional and I can socialize, I just choose not to. Im capable of long term committed relationships with just one person and I really value my family. I'm educated and employable. I'm a really hard worker. Because I become hyper fixated for long periods on one task and want to control everything around me, I burn out and am more prone to outbursts. I now work from home and have turned small profits from my hobbies. I'm capable of managing my own finances and my obsessive need for order keeps the house relatively tidy.
Sorry for the spiel, not sure where your daughters at or the severity of her condition but I wanted to speak to any parents of autistic children who see this thread
Must be black holes or a Bermuda triangle in Tennessee with all these missing children. Come on TBI do your jobs and start finding out what the heck is happening down there already
Tbi is useless!!!
I live in southeast Tennessee and this is getting frieghtening
I don't trust any of the LE here in Tennessee. From city to state, they have not earned trust and respect from us.
Agree. There’s too much of this sh*t going on in that state!
Summer Wells has been gone less than 3 yrs and now it’s like she never was.
This is the FIRST TIME I have heard the actual voice interactions from the searchers. THANK YOU Michelle. Clears a lot up for me.
I wonder where is poor puppies are? They must miss him so much. This is heartbreaking
Maybe Katie and Chris have them in the RV or they are being looked after by family members
@@MichelleAfterDarkI’m from Hendersonville. My kids went to Beech. That area he lived is probably one of the safest places to live. He didn’t just leave and walk down long hollow pike. Is it possible he was in contact with someone from school that would have lured him out? I know everyone is focused on parents but if it was them how have they not been arrested yet?
@@christylee9552And people at the school would have plenty of access to talk/plan with him.
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LE is getting their ducks in a row and crossing their T's and dotting the eyes.
@@christylee9552 I've lived in Hendersonville my whole life. I live 5miles from Sebastians. Graduated from Beech in '03. This doesn't happen here. There's been maybe a handful of murders. There have been a couple kids that have wandered off, but were found short time after and teens that run away and also found, but we don't have people luring kids out of their homes or wandering around neighborhoods snatching up kids in the middle of the night. He definitely didn't walk off cause He would of been found in the first day or two. They checked all their devices. They would found some kind of evidence of him talking to someone online or his phone by now..
I don’t believe one word that the mom and stepdad say,,,,, I have never seen a mother take off and travel somewhere when their child is missing
Candus 😮😮😮
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So true.
I have.
Perhaps she’s not thinking clearly? Perhaps Chris is so concerned about how he is being perceived that he asked her to come with him with no real plan? Does anyone know when Chris actually left Memphis and got home after the report was made over the phone?
Divorce Paperwork is always nasty imo
Prayers for him thank you for what you do for everyone
Great work
Facts lady, that’s what I love about you!!! Thank you Michelle
I concur!!
Love your doggos Michelle. Nice land too. Riley's parents had a second independent autopsy done. The toxicology reports are pending and could take ar least a couple more weeks. According to Channel 5 News, Rileys family stated that in the meantime they are just focusing on laying their son to rest. As for Sebastian, it's sad to think that he was living in chaos at times, such a beautiful smile. Thanks Michelle💚
The scent hit/no scent hit is infuriating!!!
As far as the allegations in the divorce paperwork, I doubt he'd be allowed to work as a deputy sheriff & carry a firearm if any of it was found to be true. Just saying....
Thank you, Michelle for your coverage! Sebastian needs all the help he can get to be found! 💚
Unless Seth was charged, which I don't believe he was, then allegations made in a divorce wouldn't stop him getting a job as a deputy sheriff.
Cops have high incidences of DV... So you are wrong
Yes some do and the same can be said of some military with ptsd or TBI. But not all. Loads of possibilities in this case of all the adults and of some teens. But I don’t think that of Sebastian. Bless his heart. Him hurting himself must scare him afterwards when he calms down.
That's extremely naive.
There are soo many abusive spouses and parents that are active duty police officers.
I think Riley died from his head injury.
I do think it is possible Riley was functioning with a traumatic brain injury from his fall into the concrete pole base. Poor Riley, he had a bad night.
In conflicts, there are three sides of the story. His story, her story and what really happened!
Yes, I agree
Thank you for giving LE the kudos for all the hard-work they are doing? ✌️💚✌️
I think this has become one of my favorite channels! For one your accent ROCKS, and you get straight to it with the facts! Another great video! Thanks for all you do!
What a shame poor boy living amongst this domestic abuse xx
GM From WV in USA. Thank you for all the putting out of facts. Means sooo much because you are genuine. 💚✌️💚
Just watched Fox 17 Nashville interview Seth about his meeting today with TBI. He was asked if dogs ever hit on Sebastian's scent and he said NO.
I really think they should have checked the landfill right away since the garbage man needed two men to lift the garbage the day after he was missing
I wonder if anyone has asked the Proudfoots what was in their trash.
Wow, just wow! Im sure some of this is embellished but I bet lots of truth in it. Poor Sebastian.
I heard the trash was heavy but hadn’t heard it took 2 people to lift the can. That is not good.
There must be more info here.. withheld info. most times they look into the can to be sure not a tv or something that’s not supposed to go.
Doesn’t the landfill truck not have a lift to pick up the bin with a lever control?
Good morning Michelle and pups! Ty for always keeping us updated on all these tragic cases. Imo Mother is a liar, and the the fact her and Chris are in an RV out of the state speaks volumes. 🙏💚🙏
Sabastian was moving past the pond, so it leads to an area where a car can be parked. I would check there for camera footage of parked cars.
Seth Rogers was on The Lab last night, just in case you missed it Michelle.
I didn't miss it
THANKS FOR ALL THE UPDATES I HOOE HES FOUND SAFE
I think there's confusion with the word "track(s)"... scent tracks vs tracks from shoes/foot prints...
I hate people that could harm this innocent child
Thank you so much for all the accurate information. I know the gears in ya brain are constantly turning on these cases. I hope Sebastian is found safe. I pray that for him everyday. I wanted Riley to be safe 😢 & the stress of these souls in limbo does consume our thoughts day & night
Thank you so much for breaking this all down for us, i heard the call, but could not understand what the heck they were saying, thank you so much for help understanding 😊
Thank you Michelle for keeping us informed on this case.
You appear to have missed that the officer that saw the footprints references MAX tracking to there. He has a dog with him "Max led me straight into the retaining pond."
I think the officer also said it was shoe prints
I thought he said tracks, not Max.
The dispatcher is telling the officers that the juvenile has autism in that first part that’s hard to hear
Thank you so much for covering this so well. It helps so very much to keep our minds from wheeling out of the realm of reasonable possibilities to hear more facts. Then we can concentrate on clearer on on Sebastian’s possible reasoning however limited or driven by what upset him and the possible “path” he chose to take weather he had a destination in mind or not. Bless his heart. He has to be so confused. I’m wondering if he ever attempted to go out of the house before when upset and was seen & brought back in. Or returned on his own?
Both parents have said no
Tysvm for that info
Thank you for explaining what could have happened with Riley’s pants and boots and lungs. That really gave me pause. I’d hoped that you would mention it sometime!
Thank you Michelle! I never heard audio from the initial search!
The biological dad is looking handing out flyers searching on the ground for his son ..it breaks my heart seeing him cry this is a parents worse nightmare my question is where is the mom and stepdad are they searching or handing out flyers I haven't seen anything...I believe the mom and stepdad know something more than what they are saying I couldn't go anywhere but search if this was my child but they went away in Thier RV please that's not what I would do if my kid was missing something isn't right ..
Thank you Michelle. Whenever I want to hear facts I come here. Probably many following this case have dreamed about it. Me too.
Beautiful video this morning. I love the shadows!
Still checking in daily for your take. ❤
Thank you for clarifying this Michelle!!! I couldn’t understand what they were saying yesterday. I hope he is found soon ❤
🌻 Autistic childern are extra sensitive and emotional and saying the wrong thing or showing any sign's of disapproval well effect them 10 time's worse than anyone could imagine 🌻 🙏 Sebastian 🙏
I don't understand how people are just vanishing.
It’s a weird way we talk about them. No one disappears or vanishes, not really, not usually
Usually when we hear about them, law enforcement is looking for them, and there is someone who contacted law enforcement, and there is usually someone who last saw the person when they were alive and well. I was thinking about this the other day: we call them Missing Persons cases, but it’s more like Mystery case for law enforcement. Someone knows what happened February 26 with Sebastian, even if it was just he himself planning a trip. If he drove off with a stranger, or a family member, they know the next part of the what happened. They might know where Sebastian is now.
Back to your question . What do we have too much of lately? I think it’s people treating others, especially their own children, as disposable. If they’re too much trouble, you can get rid of them. It seems like it goes along with people treating themselves as if they are garbage.
Idk if Katie or Chris took drugs. That area of the country though is high. They don’t care if their meth is laced with fenty; people are dying of meth, therefore their children are born with chromosomal damage , are difficult to raise, and a constant reminder that you’re supposed to take care of a life and act loving.
I do not think he is dead. I think someone is helping him hide but not sure if it’s a friend or stranger or his mom is in on it. The weather was 25*F so I don’t think he would get far barefoot.
I agree or maybe it’s a scam for donations or life insurance because the mother does not come across very concerned. I think most mothers would be inconsolable, distraught and devastated she seems so abnormal.
I hope you're right we all hopeing Sebastian is still alive
I agree.
I kinda get this feeling too
Something is telling me not to trust any of them the mother the father or the step father
Yeah just because the father is getting media attention cause he's out searching doesn't make him a good guy.
Your The Voice Of Reason.
I'm so confused because Seth JUST stated on FoxNashville that there were NO scents ever picked up, from all the information he's gotten 😮 🤔 Everything keeps changing.
my father used a belt too... among other things. sickening.
My father also used a belt. So did his father.
'THE' belt! 😨
I’m sorry that you got beat as a child and traumatized, but being spanked NO MORE THAN A COUPLE OF TIMES for discipline when misbehaving as a child, is totally okay.
@IceyyUS no its absolutely not okay. If as an adult you did wrong by someone would you justify being hit with a belt? Not sure where you live but where I am that would be classed as assault which you would be arrested for. Why is it okay for parents to hit their children? The other issue is an autistic child who may struggle to regulate their emotions needs help and support not to be hit by a grown adult. Look at the size of Chris vs the size of Sebastian!
@@babyboyz100 think about it this way, would you rather spank your child and show them consequences or have them know zero consequences and end up going to prison because they can’t comprehend actions have consequences? Like I said as long as you aren’t swinging with the full force of a grown man, it is okay. Being spanked should be used as a very last resort and for more serious actions, not for lying like Chris proudfoot said.
Good Thursday Morning! ☕
I didn't want to say anything, I didn't want people to go after me because I appreciated how much Seth was spreading awareness and searching for Sebastian. But he gave me slightly "off" vibes. I didn't really know why. Maybe he reminded me of someone from my past that my subconscious is recognizing, idk. But I'm also trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, clearly we don't know everything in these cases. And I suspect like you that the truth is more in between from the parents' past. I think again, it's hard to know in general what's true and not from the whole situation, from the TBI not sharing much and not exactly sure what to think of the parents. It's easy to fall into prejudgement so I try not to do that as much. But yeah. I think Sebastian had reason to leave in some form. We just don't have all the pieces to put together yet. Side note, I've had dreams before that featured Summer Wells. Sometimes I find her, sometimes I "witness" someone taking her away somewhere. Pretty sure I was just thinking too hard about her missing in general 🥺. So I get that.
I respect your stance. I also do my best to walk in justice for all. The requirements for us to act Justly, love mercy and be humble before God is not that hard to do, or too much to ask for. Keep striving in love, justice and grace. ❤
@@Bluefish-LM thank you and thank you for sharing!
What kind of vibes do you get from the stepfather?
@@lynpatricia6854 he's a little harder for me to read, I would be cautious around him as well 😬
Wow! That update on Sebastian is very interesting?
Good morning sunshine!
Interesting. A thought popped into my mind yesterday about him being somewhere, sitting against a building and looking like a homeless person.
Hello Michelle! Happy Holly Thursday. I am praying for Sebastián Rogers to be found. Salutes from Graciela Jaimes, from Tampa, Florida.🎉🎉🎉
Good morning Michelle ❤ Great vid! Thank you for the facts and straight truth girl No drama just straight up..love that about you❤
💔 where is Sebastian Rogers?
i've often wondered if Sebastian left because he did NOT want to go to his dads.
Just a thought.
Thanks Michelle!
It was at Sebastian's request to go live with his father.
@@ajordan1976 Well, that entirely shifts my perspective!
Where did you get the info? i want to watch the vid (i presume it's a vid lol, isn't everything?)
He didn't like his stepdad, and Seth the Dad had won custody of Sebastian because the mother was suffering from bipolar
@@noelinerenwick5347 The new custody agreement was 'allegedly' a private one between the bio parents. Seth himself said Sebastian never told him the step was being abusive.
Yes dad didn't know about the abuse. He wasn't even told that CPS had been to the mothers home. He only found out recently and through a podcast of all places! That's just awful. I want to believe dad is innocent in all this but honestly everyone is a suspect until they are proven not to be
I wonder if he ran away after learning that his father had been awarded custody.
His father hadn't been awarded custody. Him going to live with Seth was agreed by both parents
I still have to wonder, though, if he ran away after finding out that he was going to live with his father. Wishful thinking on my part. That would mean that there’s a chance that he’s still with us.
Hi George ikr
yes they run off to teach parents a lesson. they usually come back quite soon.
Really appreciate your greatly improved speech and sound quality.
Love love love your Chanel!❤
What a beautiful walk! Paradise.
Good morning Michelle.. prayers for sebatian and seth.. 🙏🙏🙏
No they did not say that they had dog scent hit
just that they had found tracks (footprints)
They specifically said they had no hits.
BUT in the Nancy Grace interview, the proudfoots say the dogs DID hit. 😮
Seth originally told us the dogs hit. Go listen to his interview on Pascal
@@shelovesjesus91 yes they did but I think they are talking up the tracks found as we can all hear in the audio but the dogs never got a hit
@@heather3193 I am not perturbed by which parents said what. The facts are that foot prints were detected but they were not Sebastian’s based on the tracker dogs’ response.
The fact that they drained the retention pond might be why both parents think it was a hit for the tracker dogs. The officers clearly say the dogs didn’t pick up anything.
@ThriveCollective1188 so, how did the tracking dogs follow to the footprints? Whose scent were they following? They followed scent from the home to the footprints at the pond. Make it make sense.
Good morning Michelle!
This is so sad let's hope and pray he's ok
Not to mention Hawkins County, TN, Precious Summer💕
Still Sebastian wouldn’t have run off without shoes.
I’m SO glad you shared the paperwork. I think it’s highly suspect that the very things that Katie stated happened during her marriage to Seth people are refusing to look at. They said they’ve seen the photos and they’re doctored. Made me take them down.
One person agreed with me how incriminating this paperwork was BUT all
Of a sudden when she realized it was SETH she did a complete about face.
There is strong confirmation bias going on here and it’s completely unfair. I think the wrong monster is being picked apart on every platform.
We absolutly need witnesses statements to those allegations
I live here and it is so heartbreaking! I still have the amber alert on my phone. :(
I am sad to say but this is going to be a search and recovery
You are the first one I’ve seen who has dared to question Seth. I’m subscribing to your channel for that reason. I have suspected his crocodile tears, publicly blaming Katie and playing the victim since this whole thing began.
I think the retention pond, the culvert that leads to and from it and the drain itself need searched in their entirety, from end to end. It makes no sense that his scent lead there, the responding deputy with K-9 saw footprints there leading into the pond and poof, he's vanished. I know they say it was drained, but I've heard it was not fully drained either. They need to go back to square 1 and look again.
Has anyone talked to Sebastian's teachers, friends. Acquaintances the school nurse anyone that may have noticed any abuse possibly going on at home
I'd assume that with such damning claims and a lack of evidence, that they 100% would follow up with teachers on the abuse accusation. The mother directly indicates that his teachers and school administrators witnessed violent incidences firsthand. That would be an incredible lie to tell considering it's so easy to verify
If they can verify he hit Sebastian in front of the teacher, then.............
In Katie's written statement she said she learned the school had reported to CPS a week prior to her dropping off the RO papers. So there should be plenty other records that are unknown to the public at this time. Ugly divorce or not, I tend to believe something was happening to elicit the school to do that.
I’m very sorry for Riley Strains family having to go through this. And as for darlin Sebastian I think every scenario & theory has been explored and I don’t know what has become of him. It’s just so sad for all the family 💚💚💚. Thanks Michelle x
That says Willow Bend, not boulevard.
Maybe they should re check the construction site. I wonder if there’s cameras?
The construction site has been checked several times. There are no cameras there that we know of
Seth was on The Lab last night with Josh and Trevor. Someone in chat asked why Seth allowed the abuse by Chris. His answer was heartbreaking. He said he didn't know about it and if he had Sebastian would have come to live with him. He was heartbroken because Sebastian never told him about it. I have a hard time believing that Seth physically abused Sebastian as stated in those papers. But I realize divorces get messy and a lot of things are said and done in anger and revenge. Seth appears to be straightforward, honest and believable and obviously he loves Sebastian.
I saw that
I agree with you completely!
don't know the truth but i do know your someone ppl need to avoid as your fooled by manner and a smile just as abuser use on kids not saying dad is not nice guy but also his manners don't make me go ok hes a saint
You just never really know.. only the people that were there know what really happened.
I listened to that stream as well. One for certain, BOTH parents bio mom and bio dad need a serious education on Autism!!
I have a strong feeling Sebastian is in the Cumberland River, unfortunately...
Well how did he get there? He wasn't caught on any camera leaving the house that night.
@@KMarr07 T😊hose alleged flashlights and the 3 hour phone call between the Proudfoot's would explain how.
@@ajordan1976 According to Seth LE told him those lights were the garbage trucks not flashlights. No scent and never caught on camera? I don't think he walked out of that house.
Sounds to me like the officer is saying no scent hits, but there were tracks, which could be tracks from a vehicle or foot.
Yup. I realize how many people need a good ear cleaning when I hear misinformation like this. Way too much misquoting followed by people quoting the hearsay rather than going to the source and checking it out themselves so it often goes unchecked.
Some parents put too much emphasis on cleaning their room. He was only seven.
He is 15
@@lynnrieger4426 at the time of the divorce document he was seven
at 7 (especially for a disabled child) the script should be "let's clean your room together so you can go swimming today". A mutual effort for a clearly defined reward. Not, "if you dont clean your room, you can't go swimming" - that's a recipe for defiance and disaster
Something that I'm surprised no one's talking about is this. Chris and Sebastian's mom did a interview with a RUclipsr. I forget who it was but she asked if they had security cameras outside the house and they answered no. The next question asked if they had indoor security cameras and Chris answered yes with a big smirk on his face like that was his ace in the hole. He than said he couldn't elaborate anymore on that. Well either they have footage of Sebastian walking around the house and leaving or that's A BIG FAT LIE. Either way neither them or the police have elaborated anymore on that statement
They could use the rv as a resource to look for Sebastian in wooded areas etc. since it has restrooms/ stove etc instead they using it to takeoff.
Yes, they have tracks going into the construction site.Can anyone else tell me who would be very familiar with a construction site?And what he could and couldn't get away with to hide a body
CP made some comments about burying someone in concrete and how unlikely it was
The footprints are interesting in Sebastians case, gives more hope he's hiding out with someone.
If I fell into water I'd try and kick my shoes and pants off to be able to swim.
I feel the same way, I hope and 🙏 they find him soon. 💚
@@galeocean4182just what I thought when I saw this comment too!
If a current is moving head to tail, it will take your pants and shoes off. If a current is moving ass to teakettle then it will take your shirt and hat@@galeocean4182
If you were in the water, pulling off your boots and tight skinny leg jeans, wouldn't your socks have come off too? That part seems odd.... he still had socks on.
She mentioned Autism before she mentioned, all doors were locked
"No shoes. They run straight into the pond."
Seth said he hated dirty water and the water wasn't very deep from what I understand. He was not seen on camera and I think there was no scent of Sebastian there.
I do believe that Sebastián ran away. Did LE search the school? Does the school have any cameras? Good content Michelle. Thank you.
I keep wondering if he could he have been groomed by someone? There was a case a few years ago where a teacher groomed a girl, ended up kidnapping her and going on the run. They were eventually found and the girl was returned. I believe it was out of Tennessee, as well. That's just one of the scenarios going through my head.
There were cameras all around the neighborhood and not one caught him on it.
@@KMarr07 yes I know but I was asking about cameras at his school.
@@dragonflylady8031 👍
Hi dragon ikr and someone picked him up to help him get away...from them..
My point about the tracks was that they were not tracking with dogs at that time. I wasn't saying that they didn't track him near the pond. Just that they didnt have scent dogs out their yet when this dispatch call was made.
I think your dream does reflect how much you are thinking about this case, I have done the same...IMO this case is another 411 missing it fits the pattern I have read case after case w/ similar things going on. It's not someone it's something...you have to research the cases on 411 missing and you will definitely understand. great case points Michelle
I heard last week, authorities looked in caves, I googled caves near their location and there are quite a few, just a thought, so sad 😢
Good morning Michelle and pup's.
Good morning 😊
19:50 we were taught years ago to remove heavy clothing and footwear if we fell into deep water
I have been trying to get data on Drakes creek. Measuring gauges arent up and running yet unfortunately but historic photos from google street view from various bridges downstream do show high volumes for this of year in the past. Its possible he is in it as ""Rivers are notoriously hard to search""
Rivers are notoriously hard to search, yes. Drakes creek meets the Cumberland river around 5 miles south of Sebastian's house. If Drakes creek is deep enough to wash a body 5 miles downstream it is very possible he could be in the river, if he entered the creek near his school.
@@MichelleAfterDark Its possible and very sad . I much prefer your dream of the homeless camp🥰
@@MichelleAfterDarkWait. Theres hints of a homeless camp and Seth looks upbeat. Maybe you are psychic.
If there were no sightings on camera of Seb, i wonder if he really was seen taking out the trash by a neighbor? This case is so confusing to me 🤔
Yes
What so confusing x
There are so many cameras now a day’s almost every home has cameras and nobody spotted him?
Maybe he never left house😢 it happened in house 🤷🏼♀️ and then he was in a car and driven out.
Good morning Michelle
Where can I read all these documents? I find it interesting that Seth said in an interview that he told Sebastian that he was giving him one more chance until he would have to come live there, think because of problems at school. And now, Sebastian was set to move in with Seth when school is out. It's almost like Sebastian was going to be more given stricter discipline at Seth's. As far as the claims of Seth hitting Sebastian in the head, I'm not so sure about that. Seth could go to prison for something like that which could result in Sebastian's death. What if, just what if... Sebastian really did run away because he's afraid to live with his dad and what we're seeing from Seth is a display of guilty conscience?
I believe Seth has been playing the court of public opinion since the start of this. He gained sympathy right away, playing the victim, making himself out to be the perfect parent, making Katie look like a monster. There is more to this, and I don’t trust him at all.
Oh my poor Sebastian .