Misantrope I won’t switch to Dragunov lol With that being said. I don’t condone any of the people that make Jin players look selfish or elitist. I think these nerfs are fair and hopefully all of the fake Jin players will find another character lol
I'm interested to see how all these changes will come together, at the very least his wall combo route is going to be MUCH improved. I cant stop thinking about all the things I want to try on Tuesday, lol
mighty ruler Lee here. I also am glad that he got some buffs mainly on 1+2, which was a crappy homing move imo. But I feel like people are overlooking the fact the he got slightly nerfed as well. Like d,3 has less tracking and ws 2,3 now leaves the opponent even closer on block making him more punishable (this was also nerfed in s2 and now its nerfed again). I’m not an expert in any way but I would be a bit mindful of these changes. Other than that I like the changes. They aren’t exactly what I would’ve liked but I can’t complain. It’s better than nothing. But tbh I personally feel like people will end up trying to play him and give up like in season 2 sadly. Don’t mean to be so negative lol but I do hope someone gives him a shot in a major tournament though.
Lee sub. I'm a scrub but I've loved Lee for ages and one reason he's a sub for me is because I just can't get him in on most people. I play sneaky shit like Ling and Julia as my key characters, but Lee is just so.... Excellent.
@@beyond-v2j Is it possible that they where referring to d+4 instead of d+3 for the tracking nerf? Because immediately after that they listed d+4 ,N, 4, 3 as d+3, N, 4, 3.
Hey TMM. I also dislike those kind of Jin players. Really leaves a bad taste in my mouth that my favorite character is played by some of the most immature band wagon players smh
Funny thing is TMM gives the best jin advice out of all out there since TTT2(along with eddywang aka damageXcaling) ,im using the same fundamental til today ❤
Hi, I main Lee since TTT2 and well, I agree with you at the point of the reset mechanic was far more dangerous there due to the damage, but the mechanic itself is still here and the way to avoid it is just as simple as it was then, simply mash 1, it's not like it was op then. Now you have in fact a nice bunch of movements that allow you to reset a combo, like d/f+4, d+2, and b+3,3,f,n. If you ask me, now I think is even better, b+3,3 allow resets pre and post screw, after or before any of the b+2,f loops in the combo (it hits grounded enemies, f+4 does not), which makes it far more unpredictable, the only solution for the enemy here it's to mash 1, so they can't block a low whenever you drop them to the floor, if you're fast enough you can connect HMS 4, what guarantees a blazing kick, which is another oki situation itself where at least you deal the damage while grounded, in the best scenario you get another launcher blah blah blah...
Sometimes if i play with Jin and fight against a another Jin, if they win barely 2-3 they style on me but dont rematch me. Man it happend so often, so yea some truth to what he says in the beginning.
Same here. I play kazuya and movement is key with him, as soon as I start kbd or wavedash the jin players will do the same just to show me that they can lol. Also, I get a lot of ki charge from jins.
What main man actually said it's true, i mean i just can't help it, i might not comment it but you can be sure i'm gonna be thinking "wtf is this guy doing" I mean i think jin mains act like that since they love their character a lot i mean that's just my opinion as a Jin main who pretty much played only jin ever since T5 and the 400 hours i have in T7
@@anjeevarunasalam8349 Funny enough i've spent quite a lot of time practicing my wavedash, electrics and all that fundamental stuff yet I still get rekt by players online, it makes me realize how much time and effort it takes to even be a decent jin player (and mishimas in general) coz it's not easy (well to me at least)... Coz of that I have some level of respect for Jin players...
@@blitheixgaming1289 it is a learning curve all mishima players have to face.We are good at execution but there is more involved when it comes to fundamentals like ss , block punish , whiff punish , etc.This stuff takes time to learn but when we get it down , we will be a beast.
Same for me except it was when I mained Heihachi before (I main Gigas now) my friend who was a TGP Kazuya showed me his pocket Heihachi and we did multiple sets and he also showed me some tips.
13:23 lee's slide is launch punishable by df2 I don't know about the frames but is jin's df2 is mid correct me if I am wrong but lee's slide should crushes high right
As a Jin player, I can say, yes, I do take my character very seriously lol. But it’s mainly because he’s widely acclaimed to be the best character in the game with the most options. When I lose, i think “what didn’t I do right” in order to fix it next time because I have all the tools at my disposal to win so I should be able to figure it out. That’s mainly why. Also, could just be the characters aura rubbing off 🤣🤣
"Jin Players take their character too seriously, they could learn from Kazuya Players" lmao!!! I know I'll probably get a lot of hate here because I'm right in the devil's cave (no pun intended) but Kazuya Mains are the saltiest guys straight after Law Mains... if even you dare to say something about their overuse on hellsweeps or his shitty 50/50 gameplay you'll be hatemailed to death and they will call ur mom a hoe for no reason. I dont know whats wrong with you Kazuya guys but I cant even send a "Gg" after without being called "lucky" or "scrub".. I'm not a Jin Main though :D
@@GHOSTRIDER-bp4zp for me, Tekken 7 is just garbage. You can not play your style just like in the previous parts. Instead, the gameplay of Tekken 7 dictates how to play. It's just a counter, juggling, spamming, comback & lucker game. Medium punches / kicks can lift you off the ground. You can make a comeback out of any situation. I hope that Tekken 8 has a new gameplay !!!
I feel you main man as a Jin player I will say most Jin’s are very whiny and try to tell you how to play. I personally am not like that but they are out there
Anjiru Hyure I believe he also challenged rip? to a money match on stream (like 25 bucks?) and pulled the plug when rip was gonna land the deciding match hit. Plus I heard he’s really arrogant and plain disrespectful.
Would runitblack even pick up Jun Kazama if she was added into Tekken 7 (with another story chapter added to the game including her in it hopefully)? ',:|
Very likely that that's the reason they main him, either because he's a Mishima or coz Jin looks like your typical anime edge lord. Everyone knows the real edge lords main Drag or Bryan
Jin main here just wanting to say please don’t lump us good ones with the toxic ones I’ve mained Jin since Tekken 3 and it sucks to see him get a bad wrap because a couple toxic Jins just saying #werenotallbad lol
@@Nikuex if you look at comments under Jin related video, especially those about the lore.... then you will see what kind of ppl they are, always downplaying kazuya , heihachi, always talking shit, insulting and showing excessive obsession with Jin... Imagine if kaz would beat Jin in t8, I think they would murder harada... Besides, harada got dead threats because Jin wasn't in very first location test of t7...
@@Nikuex Don't let it bother you dude, people will just bitch and complain about the playerbase of whatever character is strong. Internet dweebs aren't worth your time
How is gm’s attitude annoying? What has he done? Honest question. I haven’t played a tekken since 3. 7 is my first since then. I’ve only been watching for a little over a year.
Jose Partida I play competitively myself. FightingGM has issues. He says he never shows off, but his whole twitter is basically that. And he has beef with people for no reason
![[Tekken 7] Grand Finals - FightingGM vs Qudans - ECT 2019](/img/1.gif)
Jin is my absolute favorite character in this series. When I THINK of Tekken, he comes to my mind. With that being said...
Fuck. Jin. Players.
Don't worry they'll all switch to dragunov in S3 :D
they will shift to kazuya
Misantrope I won’t switch to Dragunov lol With that being said. I don’t condone any of the people that make Jin players look selfish or elitist. I think these nerfs are fair and hopefully all of the fake Jin players will find another character lol
Do hate the power of jin, or pla t6
@@michaelhenderson3652 bro remember when jin wasn't on people pocket because no one liked him. Now he's #1. Jin players earned their beast reputation
0:00 Intro + FightingGM info
1:39 Jin Mains + Lessons in Psychology
2:50 Tekken match (Lee vs Jin)
TMMSwe: Jin players should learn from Kazuya players, Humility, Kindness, Integrity
Bear Players: 😆
15:21 RIB whiffs dat handshake
Any Lee mains out here? Glad he gets some buffs in ss3
I'm interested to see how all these changes will come together, at the very least his wall combo route is going to be MUCH improved. I cant stop thinking about all the things I want to try on Tuesday, lol
mighty ruler Lee here. I also am glad that he got some buffs mainly on 1+2, which was a crappy homing move imo. But I feel like people are overlooking the fact the he got slightly nerfed as well. Like d,3 has less tracking and ws 2,3 now leaves the opponent even closer on block making him more punishable (this was also nerfed in s2 and now its nerfed again). I’m not an expert in any way but I would be a bit mindful of these changes. Other than that I like the changes. They aren’t exactly what I would’ve liked but I can’t complain. It’s better than nothing.
But tbh I personally feel like people will end up trying to play him and give up like in season 2 sadly. Don’t mean to be so negative lol but I do hope someone gives him a shot in a major tournament though.
Ff3 is my favourite buff
Lee sub. I'm a scrub but I've loved Lee for ages and one reason he's a sub for me is because I just can't get him in on most people. I play sneaky shit like Ling and Julia as my key characters, but Lee is just so.... Excellent.
@@beyond-v2j Is it possible that they where referring to d+4 instead of d+3 for the tracking nerf? Because immediately after that they listed d+4 ,N, 4, 3 as d+3, N, 4, 3.
TMM, I also hate those Jin Players who complain all the time man. They leave a bad impression for us Jin Mains.
It's just a shame that my favorite character is plagued by those people :(
Don't worry they'll all switch to dragunov in S3 :D
@@-lotus8650, Yeah man. It's freaking infuriating.
@@misantrope6267 😂😂😂
I hope so, we don't need immature players playing our favorite characters.
@@-lotus8650 I'm srry but I hate Jin because of his fans...
They are just too much
That rage art punish was my fave part of the fight, after seeing that, I'm never using slow frame attacks again
Hey TMM. I also dislike those kind of Jin players. Really leaves a bad taste in my mouth that my favorite character is played by some of the most immature band wagon players smh
#truth
Where's the love for the Bear players?
same
Check out eye musician (yoshi) vs OYO (yoshi).. I'm sure you prob gotta get permission but that brawl was crazy!
That wasn't a brawl. It's a party.
@@unfazedo lol yep
Funny thing is TMM gives the best jin advice out of all out there since TTT2(along with eddywang aka damageXcaling) ,im using the same fundamental til today ❤
Lars and Lee were both hurt when the bound system was removed.
Hi, I main Lee since TTT2 and well, I agree with you at the point of the reset mechanic was far more dangerous there due to the damage, but the mechanic itself is still here and the way to avoid it is just as simple as it was then, simply mash 1, it's not like it was op then. Now you have in fact a nice bunch of movements that allow you to reset a combo, like d/f+4, d+2, and b+3,3,f,n. If you ask me, now I think is even better, b+3,3 allow resets pre and post screw, after or before any of the b+2,f loops in the combo (it hits grounded enemies, f+4 does not), which makes it far more unpredictable, the only solution for the enemy here it's to mash 1, so they can't block a low whenever you drop them to the floor, if you're fast enough you can connect HMS 4, what guarantees a blazing kick, which is another oki situation itself where at least you deal the damage while grounded, in the best scenario you get another launcher blah blah blah...
chair looks mad comfy
In treasure battle there is a cpu lee player named fighting ceo. I am guessing that's a tribute to fighting gm?
GM still plays tekken 7 but on house tourneys like Team Spooky
Yeah, he’s always at NYC Tekken.
Sometimes if i play with Jin and fight against a another Jin, if they win barely 2-3 they style on me but dont rematch me. Man it happend so often, so yea some truth to what he says in the beginning.
Jin players alway refuse to rematch, most of them are just naturally bad
Same here. I play kazuya and movement is key with him, as soon as I start kbd or wavedash the jin players will do the same just to show me that they can lol. Also, I get a lot of ki charge from jins.
@@trentf4891 weird is backwards for me jins always rematch and kazuyas ki charge but heihachi ki charges alot more.
person Davis i hate Hei mains they are soo damn aggressive it agitates me 😅
@@exjay9366 His entire being is designed that way, like Dragunov. So dont hate the Player hate the Game. :D
FightingGM’s been fighting in Dojo events in New York TMM
Yea and he wins like every one of them lmao
2:37 "humility, HONOR..." MainMan is actually really funny lol 🤣
Jin players were once upon a time Sasuke lovers when Naruto was relevant 😆
Lmao
What main man actually said it's true, i mean i just can't help it, i might not comment it but you can be sure i'm gonna be thinking "wtf is this guy doing" I mean i think jin mains act like that since they love their character a lot i mean that's just my opinion as a Jin main who pretty much played only jin ever since T5 and the 400 hours i have in T7
Man this tournament had awesome matches with this being one of my favorites next to Saint picking Bob and being crazy with him!
FightingGM has been active in the T7 competetive scene. He goes to NLBC monthly tournaments in Brooklyn NY.
5:00 best part of the video
what a choke by runitblack on the last deciding match
I feel like there r more jin haters than actual toxic jin players lol
Agreed and TMM isn't helping.
prob cuz they get 50/50'd alot and then blame how brainded the character is :/
Multiple people can hate one man so that makes sense
@@anjeevarunasalam8349 Funny enough i've spent quite a lot of time practicing my wavedash, electrics and all that fundamental stuff yet I still get rekt by players online, it makes me realize how much time and effort it takes to even be a decent jin player (and mishimas in general) coz it's not easy (well to me at least)... Coz of that I have some level of respect for Jin players...
@@blitheixgaming1289 it is a learning curve all mishima players have to face.We are good at execution but there is more involved when it comes to fundamentals like ss , block punish , whiff punish , etc.This stuff takes time to learn but when we get it down , we will be a beast.
As a jin main, A Kazuya main was the one that showed me the ropes, i probably wouldnt be as humble playing the character if it wasnt for him. Lol
Same for me except it was when I mained Heihachi before (I main Gigas now) my friend who was a TGP Kazuya showed me his pocket Heihachi and we did multiple sets and he also showed me some tips.
Jimmj ate fightinggm for breakfast in this tournament
13:23 lee's slide is launch punishable by df2 I don't know about the frames but is jin's df2 is mid correct me if I am wrong but lee's slide should crushes high right
As a Jin player, I can say, yes, I do take my character very seriously lol. But it’s mainly because he’s widely acclaimed to be the best character in the game with the most options. When I lose, i think “what didn’t I do right” in order to fix it next time because I have all the tools at my disposal to win so I should be able to figure it out. That’s mainly why. Also, could just be the characters aura rubbing off 🤣🤣
How clapped do you need to feel after being defeated by a Lee, a fucking good one too?
Does this dude only own one hoodie?
7:52 runitblack puts the kkk-hood on
I didn't think the eye roll was a big deal...
"Jin Players take their character too seriously, they could learn from Kazuya Players" lmao!!! I know I'll probably get a lot of hate here because I'm right in the devil's cave (no pun intended) but Kazuya Mains are the saltiest guys straight after Law Mains... if even you dare to say something about their overuse on hellsweeps or his shitty 50/50 gameplay you'll be hatemailed to death and they will call ur mom a hoe for no reason. I dont know whats wrong with you Kazuya guys but I cant even send a "Gg" after without being called "lucky" or "scrub"..
I'm not a Jin Main though :D
stay salty jin main
@@Deviltriggerfounder cant you read?
Let us easily say Mishima players are the dumpest idiots in the Community.
None asked you anything you Jin Fanboy...
Sit down
@@GHOSTRIDER-bp4zp for me, Tekken 7 is just garbage. You can not play your style just like in the previous parts. Instead, the gameplay of Tekken 7 dictates how to play. It's just a counter, juggling, spamming, comback & lucker game. Medium punches / kicks can lift you off the ground. You can make a comeback out of any situation. I hope that Tekken 8 has a new gameplay !!!
I'm always happy to see someone play jin
8:42 Bro Im dead LMAO
Berserk shirt FTW!
Edit: Or is that FOTNS?
You wot? hopefully you're joking
Fighting gm is back with chaolan!!!
Jin's magic 4 is even nerfed now in S3 lol😂
It recovers 3 frames faster when missed
same with kazuya , get shit on alot for not doing max damage combo because we want more oki , or maybe we didn't hellsweep enough xD
Run it Choke... For dropping Jin's most basic combo he deserved to lose...
Choke or Joke ``? o.Ö
I feel you main man as a Jin player I will say most Jin’s are very whiny and try to tell you how to play. I personally am not like that but they are out there
Lol so true. I see so many jin players that are so adamant that everything you do has to be optimal
I main Jin but I avoid being toxic. Because T H I S I S R E A L I T Y
GM Was at geico gaming 2018
Also RIB has shifted from his ex douche bag persona
Thankz for the video.
Hearing my main get so much hate in the past few months is really irritating we're not all assholes
Wait didn't jin and Lee team up to kill kazuya what happened 😂😂😂😂😂
Ugh I still hate runitblack
What did he do exactly? I know about the controller thing, but did he do anything else?
Anjiru Hyure I believe he also challenged rip? to a money match on stream (like 25 bucks?) and pulled the plug when rip was gonna land the deciding match hit. Plus I heard he’s really arrogant and plain disrespectful.
Would runitblack even pick up Jun Kazama if she was added into Tekken 7 (with another story chapter added to the game including her in it hopefully)? ',:|
Jin players think tha they're as edgy as he is lol
No, seriosly, they probably do think that
Very likely that that's the reason they main him, either because he's a Mishima or coz Jin looks like your typical anime edge lord. Everyone knows the real edge lords main Drag or Bryan
@@meshifuari4882 Drag is funny in movies, so it's hard to say that he's edgy. Bryan yeah, maybe. But Jin is still a typical anime edgelord
Jin didnt use to be edgy, i liked him more when he was the good guy, after tekken 6 though hes pretty much full emo, he lost his way
Jin main here just wanting to say please don’t lump us good ones with the toxic ones I’ve mained Jin since Tekken 3 and it sucks to see him get a bad wrap because a couple toxic Jins just saying #werenotallbad lol
Don't worry they'll all switch to dragunov in S3 :D
"a couple of toxic Jin's??
More like 90% of his fans are toxic as hell
Kain 1 dude all I’m saying is don’t assume we’re all toxic because I’m sure you haven’t met 90% of Jin players lmao
@@Nikuex if you look at comments under Jin related video, especially those about the lore.... then you will see what kind of ppl they are, always downplaying kazuya , heihachi, always talking shit, insulting and showing excessive obsession with Jin...
Imagine if kaz would beat Jin in t8, I think they would murder harada...
Besides, harada got dead threats because Jin wasn't in very first location test of t7...
@@Nikuex Don't let it bother you dude, people will just bitch and complain about the playerbase of whatever character is strong. Internet dweebs aren't worth your time
Sorry to all the jin haters. I hope these nerfs satisfy you. Also, don't be mad when us jin players still beat you with the nerfs
both these players are pretty toxic
👍
“Hi Jin main here. I just want everyone to know that🙂.”
Hope they nerf Jin so that the band wagon of Jins drop him.
As a person who knows RiB, he's not a bad guy at all. FightingGM is annoying and his attitude is annoying.
How is gm’s attitude annoying? What has he done? Honest question. I haven’t played a tekken since 3. 7 is my first since then. I’ve only been watching for a little over a year.
Jose Partida I play competitively myself. FightingGM has issues. He says he never shows off, but his whole twitter is basically that. And he has beef with people for no reason
Main man check out Justice vs Boa Luvb
you’re gonna Cumm
First
*Audience stands up and applauses this enormous achievement*