Too bad we can only hit 'thumbs up' once! Great, entertaining videos, with excellent engineering/mfg content. Should be required viewing for college students!
Those tools are pretty awesome. If I find a local laser cutting place that doesn't require a life time contract or a 10,000 piece order I may be in touch! Liked and subscibbled for Al Gore's rhythm.
Great job, Viny. A fair portion of building your own table/tooling is gaining experience along the way. And your future projects will be considerably more precise and efficient now. Fireball goods are not for the hobbyist, they are for the professional who understands the need for precision and quality to make repeatable parts with fewer mistakes. The naysayers are obviously not working in a competitive environment where quick correctness is a must to maximize profit.
2 ideas that ive been planning on building but want some inspiration. DIY 2x72 belt sander for as cheap as possible. A unique way to store scrap metal/cutoffs in a small workshop/garage. Maybe a floating honeycomb shelf made from square tubes?
Nice work Viny B. I Think your weld table is awesome. Just an observation not a criticism of you or Fireball Tools is that you both did not test your material before hand to show that it is in spec before you stared the job weld test . I work with RHS a lot and it's not all the same it .varies length to length. end to end and side to side and then on long lengths it can be twisted. The stresses in RHS are huge. If you cut the side out of a piece say 75x75x3mm 300mm long that side you cut out will bow like a banana and the C shape will close up a mil or two. I recently made a table out of 75x50x3mm RHS mitered the corners using my 6" machine square to square and clamp the corner only to find the out side set to 90* only to find the inside angle was out 2mm over 6" because the miter released some stress on the 75mm faces, they bowed out making it hard to square up. If you take some 100x100x3mm and cut a piece 25mm long off the end you will be very lucky if you can find a right angle on it. Jigs are awesome but you have to take in to account all the variables for the level of perfection you are trying to achieve.
you,re right Jim! And just the sheer fact that I used 2 different types of tubing and that they have been already welded in some other project...I didn't really give myself a chance! But that's ok, cause I uselly work will used material and wanted to see how bad the part would have been, it was a test to see if how precise I could build a part but also how to work with the table and what methods I should avoid!
13:01 theres actually 5 things I would like to see you build for the tractor 1: a rotavator for the PTO 2: a hedge cutter for the front loader 3: a mower attachment for the PTO 4: a four-way bucket for the front loader 5: make it into a half track that is all for now...
@@YamahaYZFR6RJ05 yeah personally half track tractors are superior to normal wheeled version especially on a work machine since the only thing it effects is top speed & you ain't going fast on a tractor.
@@VinyB57 no problem buddy I'm just a weirdo that works on heavy agricultural machinery if you need more idea's I'll be sure to let you know, personally if I was going to start on one I would recommend going for the half track one first since that extra traction & surface area is handy when using the tractor on grass (since you don't tear it up) even when using the digger attachment since it gives extra support, also IMO i think if you do it properly like the john deere four track 8rx styled tracks it'll bring In more views since over the past few years there's been a growing interest in converting old tractors into half tracks ;)
Love the videos! I'd love to see some videos on basic fab work for noobs like me. For example: I'd like to build a front bumper to hold a winch for a Polaris RZR, but there aren't many examples of that on youtube. Thanks and keep up the good work!
As someone whos running out of garage space i always toy with idea of hydraulic press that has a frame you can easily store, and mount in bench vise. Or possibly store on wall and clamp to table when in use.
If I may ask, isn't the primary metal used in C-clamps cast iron? I've attempted welding to it with steel and, although it looks good, the iron inevitably snaps off right after the weld (not the weld itself). I'm a little dubious of your homemade clamps @ 4:54 would do little more than snap clean off if you attempted to really wrench down your work (or worse yet, they fail mid-weld from the heat attempting to distort the metal). Please, feel free to comment on my concern.
Yes, you re absolutly right. Here I m not wrenching like crazy on this thing. So it hold up, for now! A few years ago, on my Smart Busa project, I wanted to modified some VW spindles. I did a test and was able knock right off the welded piece! So for mild duty, it s fine, but for something like a spindle on a car, I won t recommand it at all!
What I loved best about the Fireball tool video is that whole point of the video is saying "clamping the piece to a steel table won't stop weld distortion" Then, in the solution to the problem, they say "if you clamp the piece to our steel table, it won't distort when you weld"
Don't do it with a CNC plasma table, I have one myself, and although is a great cutting tool, it won't cut round-enough holes to have a precise welding table. Laser is a better choice!
It's a good question, I heard that somebody had good results with water jet, but I never used it! But what thing you could do it's to use the test plate included in the table's package and see for yourself!
Good job Viny! Really like this video and you should really have your own TV show....⁉️😜...I were thinking about clamps, how good clamp can I make useing threaded rod, and extending nuts...do you think, Obi Wan...🤔😉
Perhaps some post-weld heat-treatment might have brought it back into spec? Or heat-straighten it by applying heat in specific spots and then cooling it under stress? I don't think the tech drawing was stopping anyone from doing any of that after weld up. It would just cost more to do so, but it could help reduce the distortions.
Oh you're right, it should brought back the part, but I wanted to see in a production situation, how bad the part would be....cause to be frank I will never reheat a frame on one of my projects..so at least I know roughly how they will come out of the jig!
What order are you welding the corners in? When welding frames I start with all outside corners, then inside. Then the sides, but you still want the welds you just put down to be burning hot when you go to weld the other side so you do have to be quick about getting them done and flipped.
I'm a little bit lost here on how much money a table would cost. In your first video you said it was over $900 for a 3x8 table lasrr cut. Is that the price for just having the plate laser cut, or was that including the steel?
@@VinyB57 seems very cheap. I was just pricing out a 4x8 1/2" and it's around 500 for just one. I guess if you buy it from the people who are doing the laser cutting you get a better deal?
I can't afford a fixture table, but I do have an old cast iron table saw. Would be interesting to see how he would make a precise (as possible) fixture table from an old cheap table saw.
@@VinyB57 Yeah, I saw that. The only problem is the surface of a table saw has a big oval hole that is off-center in both axis to accommodate the saw itself... So the jig they sell doesn't necessarily work for a common table saw.
Next tool mayby screw/auger wood chipper with counter knife. You just made perfect table to keep everything squared, so this machine would have a lot of round..ish parts ;)
It's sleeping.....I have so many projects going on and not enough time, so I'm sacrificing the Smart Busa and all the fun I had with it! Could you believe I spent 5k$ on wheels and suspension and never use it since! 🤦♂But it will be back! don't know when tho!
@@VinyB57 Nah probably not. I'm guessing most of the people who buy his cast iron fixture table are part of a large company and not 2 car garage/ home shops. This laser cut modular fixture table suits more people in my opinion. Way to go!! 👍🏼
@@KBLIZZ333 BTW...FireBall reply to one of the threads in this comment section...so he knows..but like we said, my product and his are 2 diffenrent things! I m 100% with the big shops owning his tables...more then the homegamer!
@@VinyB57 That's awesome that he's watching. Makes sense, both of you are smart as hell and extremely innovative. Before I get any sort of welding/fixture table I need something better than an old 115v Lincoln flux core "handy mig" and a very very old Craftsman 30/230 amp AC stick welder. Probably have to refinance my house and sell a kidney or something 🤣🤣 cheers ✊🏼
Already built one....but I sure could revisit the original design, since I work with it for a few years and it far from perfect! 🤔 Thanks for the suggestion!
Budget diy mill, for people who want to get started, but don't want to waste money on something terrible that won't work, or something too good they'll never use
That's a hard one! A long time agoe, I though about building my own one...but if you don't make it heavy duty, the cut quality will be close to unusable (especialy for machining steel) and in this case, it's better to buy an old milling machine and rebuild it! (Like I did twice 😅) But thanks for the suggestion and it's noted!
You right, but we still manage to get somewhat precise tables out of this....we're not in the machining world...it,s just to weld fences, stairs and what not! 😅
If you're gonna bash somebody, do it for the right reason, not something you made up. Comments on ALL of Fireball Tool's video's have been off for quite a while now, I believe since the "news for 2023" video, where he announced he's stopping with long format videos on YT and putting them on his own website, with just short format videos on YT. Like he said: He doesn't want to be a YT creator, he wants to be a tool designer/inventor. Having to keep up with comments on YT is far from a fun job, so I totally understand why he turned them off. It prevents unfounded comments like yours from spreading like wildfire, like all nonsense news does these days. People are so damn gullible...
I am working with a Siegmund table for about 5 years and for sure it's the best investment I 've made in my shop for productivity and precision. Even for a single part is faster than nothing else. And Siegmund tables are made of tool steel, not cast steel like Fireball tables. The surface has some wear, but no marks.
Totally agree.. I've made flat and square things for work with my carport floor (certain area), clamps, patience and occasional foul language. Might not be dead nuts true, but the pieces fit and didn't rock or cause mis-alignment to the rest of the project! Win in my big! I still would love a good fixture table though!!! 😂
@@VinyB57 the title block was incomplete. The "table" drawings were worse. He should have also specified the nature of the item to the small shops. As far as lawn ornaments go, all the shops did an amazing job. Fabrication is so much easier if you have context.
@@VinyB57 I'd be happy to mark up the drawing if you promise to read them. The level at which the drawings were made does not suit the level at which the parts were measured. You can't measure to GD&T if you don't use it in the drawing properly. Those drawings would have never been approved to be signed let alone be sent out the door of my current and past employers.
@@VinyB57 title of drawing is dumb no tolerance table no notes or drawing spec or weld spec 90 deg angle is not well located no weld symbol frame twist callout isn't clear no signatures or names or dates a bunch of fields in the title block should be N/A not just blank no rev BOM probably doesn't need lengths but im not sure about the rules on that stuff, I think it could lead to errors since the actual length of tube is irrelevant so long as the frame fits the criteria superfluous dimensions Grind on one side could be clearer and the leader is weird do not scale drawing but it also gives a tenth scale If they use gd&t the frame twist could be captured more simply with a dimension degree to two decimal points is absurd I don't like that where he wrote 1/16 he didn't add the " no item balloons proprietary info not filled out material no finish weird coordinate thing in the corner stating frame twist can mean many different things, the tubes themselves could be twisted, should have just added a dimension of 2" + - 1/16"
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Link to website and plans: 57design.ca/
"If you cant make it perfect-make it adjustable"(this old Tony ).
love ur videos viny 👍
So true! ..cause pretty much waht I did...😉
Awesome video Viny!!! Your humour is top notch!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Too bad we can only hit 'thumbs up' once! Great, entertaining videos, with excellent engineering/mfg content. Should be required viewing for college students!
Heu thanks man for your comment, glad ypu appreciated it! Not sure about the college think..there s a few crunchy jokes in there..😅
I loved the William Shatner school of overacting bit, well done!
The table looks like a great option, going to have to consider it.
William Shatner...🤣!! Good one...Yes you really should think about getting one!
Those tools are pretty awesome.
If I find a local laser cutting place that doesn't require a life time contract or a 10,000 piece order I may be in touch!
Liked and subscibbled for Al Gore's rhythm.
Great job, Viny. A fair portion of building your own table/tooling is gaining experience along the way. And your future projects will be considerably more precise and efficient now.
Fireball goods are not for the hobbyist, they are for the professional who understands the need for precision and quality to make repeatable parts with fewer mistakes. The naysayers are obviously not working in a competitive environment where quick correctness is a must to maximize profit.
I had to google "naysayers"...😅 But I m 100% with you on this one!
@@VinyB57 man it´s all what youtube is about
2 ideas that ive been planning on building but want some inspiration.
DIY 2x72 belt sander for as cheap as possible.
A unique way to store scrap metal/cutoffs in a small workshop/garage. Maybe a floating honeycomb shelf made from square tubes?
Nice work Viny B. I Think your weld table is awesome. Just an observation not a criticism of you or Fireball Tools is that you both did not test your material before hand to show that it is in spec before you stared the job weld test . I work with RHS a lot and it's not all the same it .varies length to length. end to end and side to side and then on long lengths it can be twisted. The stresses in RHS are huge. If you cut the side out of a piece say 75x75x3mm 300mm long that side you cut out will bow like a banana and the C shape will close up a mil or two. I recently made a table out of 75x50x3mm RHS mitered the corners using my 6" machine square to square and clamp the corner only to find the out side set to 90* only to find the inside angle was out 2mm over 6" because the miter released some stress on the 75mm faces, they bowed out making it hard to square up. If you take some 100x100x3mm and cut a piece 25mm long off the end you will be very lucky if you can find a right angle on it. Jigs are awesome but you have to take in to account all the variables for the level of perfection you are trying to achieve.
you,re right Jim! And just the sheer fact that I used 2 different types of tubing and that they have been already welded in some other project...I didn't really give myself a chance! But that's ok, cause I uselly work will used material and wanted to see how bad the part would have been, it was a test to see if how precise I could build a part but also how to work with the table and what methods I should avoid!
13:01 theres actually 5 things I would like to see you build for the tractor
1: a rotavator for the PTO
2: a hedge cutter for the front loader
3: a mower attachment for the PTO
4: a four-way bucket for the front loader
5: make it into a half track
that is all for now...
Bro!! These are some cool projects!! 🤯 I started a list and they're noted! Thanks!
As a German I support #5.
@@YamahaYZFR6RJ05 yeah personally half track tractors are superior to normal wheeled version especially on a work machine since the only thing it effects is top speed & you ain't going fast on a tractor.
@@VinyB57 no problem buddy I'm just a weirdo that works on heavy agricultural machinery if you need more idea's I'll be sure to let you know, personally if I was going to start on one I would recommend going for the half track one first since that extra traction & surface area is handy when using the tractor on grass (since you don't tear it up) even when using the digger attachment since it gives extra support, also IMO i think if you do it properly like the john deere four track 8rx styled tracks it'll bring In more views since over the past few years there's been a growing interest in converting old tractors into half tracks ;)
@@DatBoiOrly OK, I'll think about it..thanks! 👍👍
I love your videos Viny B is the KING!
Hey thanks, glad you like them! 👍
Love the videos! I'd love to see some videos on basic fab work for noobs like me. For example: I'd like to build a front bumper to hold a winch for a Polaris RZR, but there aren't many examples of that on youtube. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Excellent video Viny. Glad you went back for that steel as well, I would do the same considering the prices today. Are you racing this year?
Absolutely brilliant video
Hey thanks, glad you liked it!
I knew you were going in the bin after that “scrap” 😂
You know me too well...suspicious..🤭
As someone whos running out of garage space i always toy with idea of hydraulic press that has a frame you can easily store, and mount in bench vise. Or possibly store on wall and clamp to table when in use.
Noted, thanks for your suggestion!
We need a Vinny 57 version of a belt sander/grinder.
If I may ask, isn't the primary metal used in C-clamps cast iron? I've attempted welding to it with steel and, although it looks good, the iron inevitably snaps off right after the weld (not the weld itself). I'm a little dubious of your homemade clamps @ 4:54 would do little more than snap clean off if you attempted to really wrench down your work (or worse yet, they fail mid-weld from the heat attempting to distort the metal). Please, feel free to comment on my concern.
Yes, you re absolutly right. Here I m not wrenching like crazy on this thing. So it hold up, for now! A few years ago, on my Smart Busa project, I wanted to modified some VW spindles. I did a test and was able knock right off the welded piece! So for mild duty, it s fine, but for something like a spindle on a car, I won t recommand it at all!
What I loved best about the Fireball tool video is that whole point of the video is saying "clamping the piece to a steel table won't stop weld distortion"
Then, in the solution to the problem, they say "if you clamp the piece to our steel table, it won't distort when you weld"
I think it should help.....like A LOT to clamp the part...it's not pure magic...but it's better then not clamping it!
If I add speed holes to the long clamp arms. DO you think I can I ask for the drops?
Have you tried to cut table on plasma? I have cnc plasma machine and didnt decided to cut welders table on it.
Don't do it with a CNC plasma table, I have one myself, and although is a great cutting tool, it won't cut round-enough holes to have a precise welding table. Laser is a better choice!
Great video!
Do you think this table would be accurately cut on a water jet? Not many laser options in my area
It's a good question, I heard that somebody had good results with water jet, but I never used it! But what thing you could do it's to use the test plate included in the table's package and see for yourself!
Would love to see your shot at a 2x72 belt sander! If you haven't already built one 😁 saying Hi from Quebec Beauce 😁
Noted! big thanks Charles, got this one a few times and its a pretty good idea! 👍
Good job Viny! Really like this video and you should really have your own TV show....⁉️😜...I were thinking about clamps, how good clamp can I make useing threaded rod, and extending nuts...do you think, Obi Wan...🤔😉
Not sure about the TV show...😅 I'm english is not as good fir such a task! But thanks Tony
Perhaps some post-weld heat-treatment might have brought it back into spec? Or heat-straighten it by applying heat in specific spots and then cooling it under stress?
I don't think the tech drawing was stopping anyone from doing any of that after weld up. It would just cost more to do so, but it could help reduce the distortions.
Oh you're right, it should brought back the part, but I wanted to see in a production situation, how bad the part would be....cause to be frank I will never reheat a frame on one of my projects..so at least I know roughly how they will come out of the jig!
Which one is flatter, your table or tire?
The table...I hope!
What order are you welding the corners in?
When welding frames I start with all outside corners, then inside.
Then the sides, but you still want the welds you just put down to be burning hot when you go to weld the other side so you do have to be quick about getting them done and flipped.
Random was the order! 😅To be frank, I'm still a noob here! Gonna try your method next time! Out-In-Top then flip! 👌
I went to harbor freight and bought a bunch of cheap F clamps, cut the bottoms off and welded a bolt to the bottom.
Cool! 👍
I would like to see a post hole auger!
Noted, thanks!👍
I'm a little bit lost here on how much money a table would cost. In your first video you said it was over $900 for a 3x8 table lasrr cut. Is that the price for just having the plate laser cut, or was that including the steel?
@@Six_ftdeep32 the steel is included with the laser cut, where I live, you never provide the steel
@@VinyB57 seems very cheap. I was just pricing out a 4x8 1/2" and it's around 500 for just one. I guess if you buy it from the people who are doing the laser cutting you get a better deal?
@@Six_ftdeep32 Yeah, you buy directly from the laser cutting company, they have all the steel in stock
As always, very entertaining!
Hey thanks Galvin! 👌 Don't forget, do multiple mid-project spare renders when editing..😉
@@VinyB57 Roger that!
I can't afford a fixture table, but I do have an old cast iron table saw. Would be interesting to see how he would make a precise (as possible) fixture table from an old cheap table saw.
I kmow Fireball is selling a jig to drill precisly the hole s pattern! It s about a day or 2 of work, depending on the size of the table!
@@VinyB57 Yeah, I saw that. The only problem is the surface of a table saw has a big oval hole that is off-center in both axis to accommodate the saw itself... So the jig they sell doesn't necessarily work for a common table saw.
Next tool mayby screw/auger wood chipper with counter knife. You just made perfect table to keep everything squared, so this machine would have a lot of round..ish parts ;)
thanks for the suggestion! It's noted! 👍
What happened with Smart Hayabusa?
It's sleeping.....I have so many projects going on and not enough time, so I'm sacrificing the Smart Busa and all the fun I had with it! Could you believe I spent 5k$ on wheels and suspension and never use it since! 🤦♂But it will be back! don't know when tho!
Cool Projekt: Portable Sawmill like Woodmizer LT
I know I,m gonna build one of these in a few years! Thanks for the suggestion!
Plans for a car lift for a home garage high enough to use a creeper to get underneath the car.
There be dragons
I already built one (video on my channel)...never sold the plans....to affraid that it kills someone! 😬 But it's noted!
Quelle autre tool ? ???
Jason 🙏🏼 praying nobody sees this channel 😂😂
I don t think he worries a bit!! 😉
@@VinyB57 Nah probably not. I'm guessing most of the people who buy his cast iron fixture table are part of a large company and not 2 car garage/ home shops. This laser cut modular fixture table suits more people in my opinion. Way to go!! 👍🏼
@@KBLIZZ333 BTW...FireBall reply to one of the threads in this comment section...so he knows..but like we said, my product and his are 2 diffenrent things! I m 100% with the big shops owning his tables...more then the homegamer!
@@VinyB57 That's awesome that he's watching. Makes sense, both of you are smart as hell and extremely innovative. Before I get any sort of welding/fixture table I need something better than an old 115v Lincoln flux core "handy mig" and a very very old Craftsman 30/230 amp AC stick welder. Probably have to refinance my house and sell a kidney or something 🤣🤣 cheers ✊🏼
Awesome
thanks!👍
Estie de patante à gosse! 🤣Welcome to Qc
Welcome indeed !😉
If you have sand your weld like fireball crew probably you result be better!!
Not sure, cause I over grind my weld and never took mesurments from that area...
"Voyon esti de patente a gosse" 😂😂😂
😉
I saw your first video of the table build your wife must be some sorta goddess to put up with you lol but damn good build
Sheet metal power hammer!
Noted, thanks!
But the part is +0 -1/16 so where you were over 20 It was a fail
one side is 20.250 minus 1/16 and the other 20 minus 1/16...width and lenght were not the same
@@VinyB57 nice sorry my mistake.
Loving the build though. The swivel angle fences are genius
@@forgeperformanceand4x4 Hey no problem...you got me wrorried for a bit! 😅
Build a diy plasma cnc
Already built one....but I sure could revisit the original design, since I work with it for a few years and it far from perfect! 🤔 Thanks for the suggestion!
@VinyB57 cool if you do revisit this project. Can you make plan available on your website
Budget diy mill, for people who want to get started, but don't want to waste money on something terrible that won't work, or something too good they'll never use
That's a hard one! A long time agoe, I though about building my own one...but if you don't make it heavy duty, the cut quality will be close to unusable (especialy for machining steel) and in this case, it's better to buy an old milling machine and rebuild it! (Like I did twice 😅) But thanks for the suggestion and it's noted!
All good but laser cut qualiti are fu**ing horible. I know that because i work with cnc laser cuting machine
You right, but we still manage to get somewhat precise tables out of this....we're not in the machining world...it,s just to weld fences, stairs and what not! 😅
nobody saying gloves on a lathe? i'll be the guy
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It’s probably because it’s cold as balls 😂
I don't doubt fireball tables are good but it can be done with just an ordinary table and clamps. He turned off comments in those videos
it's the quality of the fireball drawings that's bad and can understandably lead to confusion.
If you're gonna bash somebody, do it for the right reason, not something you made up.
Comments on ALL of Fireball Tool's video's have been off for quite a while now, I believe since the "news for 2023" video, where he announced he's stopping with long format videos on YT and putting them on his own website, with just short format videos on YT. Like he said: He doesn't want to be a YT creator, he wants to be a tool designer/inventor. Having to keep up with comments on YT is far from a fun job, so I totally understand why he turned them off. It prevents unfounded comments like yours from spreading like wildfire, like all nonsense news does these days. People are so damn gullible...
I am working with a Siegmund table for about 5 years and for sure it's the best investment I 've made in my shop for productivity and precision. Even for a single part is faster than nothing else. And Siegmund tables are made of tool steel, not cast steel like Fireball tables. The surface has some wear, but no marks.
Totally agree.. I've made flat and square things for work with my carport floor (certain area), clamps, patience and occasional foul language. Might not be dead nuts true, but the pieces fit and didn't rock or cause mis-alignment to the rest of the project! Win in my big!
I still would love a good fixture table though!!! 😂
yeah moving all comments to his forum really just takes away all relevant discussion about anything he does and how shit his ideas are sometimes.
don't worry. the drawing is full of errors anyways and it would have made perfect sense if you didn't "pass"
Ok to be frank it was not the best I ever saw! But, appart from the material, everything was there! 😅
@@VinyB57 the title block was incomplete. The "table" drawings were worse. He should have also specified the nature of the item to the small shops. As far as lawn ornaments go, all the shops did an amazing job. Fabrication is so much easier if you have context.
@@VinyB57 I'd be happy to mark up the drawing if you promise to read them. The level at which the drawings were made does not suit the level at which the parts were measured. You can't measure to GD&T if you don't use it in the drawing properly. Those drawings would have never been approved to be signed let alone be sent out the door of my current and past employers.
@@VinyB57
title of drawing is dumb
no tolerance table
no notes or drawing spec or weld spec
90 deg angle is not well located
no weld symbol
frame twist callout isn't clear
no signatures or names or dates
a bunch of fields in the title block should be N/A not just blank
no rev
BOM probably doesn't need lengths but im not sure about the rules on that stuff, I think it could lead to errors since the actual length of tube is irrelevant so long as the frame fits the criteria
superfluous dimensions
Grind on one side could be clearer and the leader is weird
do not scale drawing but it also gives a tenth scale
If they use gd&t the frame twist could be captured more simply with a dimension
degree to two decimal points is absurd
I don't like that where he wrote 1/16 he didn't add the "
no item balloons
proprietary info not filled out
material
no finish
weird coordinate thing in the corner
stating frame twist can mean many different things, the tubes themselves could be twisted, should have just added a dimension of 2" + - 1/16"