The Tragic Story Of Floyd Collins at Sand Cave
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Mammoth Cave Park Ranger John tells us the sad story of Floyd Collins
William Floyd Collins (July 20, 1887 - c. February 13, 1925), better known as Floyd Collins, was an American cave explorer, principally in a region of Central Kentucky that houses hundreds of miles of interconnected caverns within Mammoth Cave National Park, the longest cave system in the world. In the early 20th century, in an era known as the Kentucky Cave Wars, commercial cave owners and explorers in Kentucky entered into a bitter competition to exploit the bounty of caves for commercial profit from tourists, who paid to see the caves. In 1917, Collins had discovered and commercialized Crystal Cave on Flint Ridge (now part of the Mammoth Cave System but at the time an isolated cave). But the cave was remote and visitors were few. Collins had the ambition to find another cave he could open to the public closer to the main roads, and entered into an agreement with a neighbor to open up Sand Cave, a small cave on the neighbor's property. On January 30, 1925, while working to enlarge the small passage in Sand Cave, Collins became trapped in a narrow crawlway 55 feet (17 m) below ground. The rescue operation to save Collins became a national newspaper sensation and one of the first major news stories to be reported using the new technology of broadcast radio. The rescue attempt grew to become the third-biggest media event between the world wars
After four days, during which time rescuers were able to bring water and food to Collins, a rock collapse in the cave closed the entrance passageway, stranding him in the cave, except for voice contact, for more than two weeks. Collins died of thirst and hunger compounded by exposure through hypothermia after being isolated for 14 days, just three days before a rescue shaft reached his position. Collins' body would be recovered two months later.
Although Collins was an unknown figure in his lifetime, the fame he gained from his death led to him being memorialized on his tombstone as the "Greatest Cave Explorer Ever Known".
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Great information. I do have to say though. Whenever I see children act like this in public- it is a direct reflection on the parents. The parents allow this behavior and disrespecting each and every person there, and most of all the ranger doing the guide. They don’t even make attempts to correct the children’s behavior, that’s what is truly troubling.
Have you ever heard of mental problems or autism, do you believe in other learning disabilities ? If you correct certain children, they can start a tantrum, doesn’t matter how good of a parent you are, when you correct a child it upsets them. To me it looks like the children are having fun outside, there is nothing wrong with that
@@Originaljonsey stick to bunnies. Children aren’t your thing.
that’s why parents shouldn’t bring todays kids to these places they don’t appreciate anything
AMEN
MOST DEF!!!
These people couldn't be more disinterested. Why are they there?
Thanks for watching and the input!!
OMG What disrespectful children.
great story teller, but that parent just letting her kids disrespect this ranger and the memory and legacy of floyd by being so abnoxious and loud, so disgraceful.
One of the best short weekend reads I’ve ever read
Awesome Ranger John knowledge and story teller.
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching!!
excellent video and topic
I'm listening from România. It's a worldwide story.
Thank you for watching!!
Those kids would have no electronics for the next year.
Haha Thanks for watching!!
Yea, no... Correct your kids before I do it for you and shame you in public.
I would have been thoroughly pissed if I had been one of his family members and found out that all this had happoned.
So.....you didn't go to Floyd's Cave?!?!?
No thank you. The story was enough for me.
the guide seems cool but the blue line on his walkie worries me
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Stupid kids
Ugh those kids are killin me. Just let them go exploring the caves while we listen 😈
Yes, "explore" the caves. Great idea.
@@jessi4894 When i was a kid , we didn't have caves*, so we had to dig our own.
*-no I ain't quite that old, we just didn't have any caves where I lived
@@jessi4894 hopefully the disrespect obnoxious shits would get stuck in there lmao
even the mom looks tired she looks like she aged 10 years in a span of 5 raising those kids
Parents these days:
“My kids are a problem that I can’t deal with- so I’m going to make it every one else’s problem too!”.
Sigh... Little crotch goblins! Look how unhappy and bedraggled all these type of parents look too. Society told them they’d be happy if they get a husband and have kids- yeah right! 😂😂
The fact that that woman refused to keep her brat(s) quiet was annoying as f, but letting him disrespect the gravesite like that was disgusting. Your video is great, the Ranger was an amazing story teller, I'm sorry your tour was ruined by people who can't discipline their kids.
I was there last month and yea the kids on the tours got annoying. Its cool to show kids the caves but the wild ones should not go.
Omg …SO Frustratingly sad… 🤯😡this would’ve been a wonderful video if it weren’t ruined by those kids, good example if you have very young or obvs very immature children that will make sure they receive everyone’s attention by ruining everyone’s time especially kids that know that they will not ever see any obedience by that mother. 🤦
I would have told my kids to STFU and have a little respect for that park ranger!!
As a parent should!! Seriously does it take that much common sense to teach your kids NOT to behave in such manners!
Cheers!
That poor Ranger was wasting his time and energy on these ungrateful people.
I feel really sorry for him. Those women were rude AF to him to allow those kids to disrespect him the WHOLE TIME! SMDH! Seriously WHO DOES THAT!!?
CHEERS!
He didnt. They get paid for it.
Cant hardly even listen because they are so distracting
These are parents that let their children stand up in shopping carts...
The guide was great! The kids, though... wish they’d made this video without them.
Control your kids!!!!!
Would love to listen to this man tell the story but the kids are too much of a distraction for me.
This is an excellent video for birth control ❤️
What garbage parents geez. So much patience from that park ranger.
YESSSSS , I was getting angry , those kids are annoying.
@@gobiteem5838 poster children for abortion
No kidding those parents have some disrespectful critters ,kids will be kids but come on .This Ranger is amazing w patience and the way he tells the story
Pretty sure the kids were NOT the only ones disrespecting the ranger! Seriously disrespectful of parents to ALLOW kids to behave that way when someone is talking! Then it being a guided tour, made it that much MORE disrespectful. Kudos to the Ranger for being so tolerable!
Cheers!
Good story but the kids ruined the video do this over without the kids
Thanks for watching and the comment!! Wish I could I would like to go back to Mammoth Cave again sometime in the future.
@@ViseGrip1974 you will get your chance I think
That's nice of you to say that to her! I hope she gets a chance to go back also and be able to really enjoy herself next time!
Cheers!
Why I don't want kids
Lol 🍻
Those kids are so uncouth and annoying Jesus Christ i don’t know how parents raise these types of kids
No dad there to regulate them.
Should have left the kids.....with a baby sister!!
So enoying when this happens.....when you are on a showing from a park ranger. No dam respect from these types of people.....recks your day of a good afternoon at the park...brats!!
They don't beat them.
They don't raise them, teach them to be quiet and respectful to adults, or teach them the most basic of manners. These types of kids are allowed to rule the roost, be disrespectful, disrupt and annoy everyone around them. I work as a barber, and I see these types of kids all day every day, and it's why I take such a huge issue with sharing space with kids these days, such as at my job, shopping in the store and especially airplanes. These unparented little monsters are allowed to have free reign to bother others who have sensory issues like myself and have to suffer in silence and aren't allowed to say anything.
On the plus side, it does make me value and appreciate the good, kind and respectful children and their wonderful parents all the more.
I see kids being kids you took kids to something they have zero interest in. Only the young ones are restless as they should be this is boring for them.
Those kids ruined the video for me.
Thank you for watching and the comment!! Yeah, I agree they were disruptive. :( I even debated on uploading the video because of that but decided to anyway because the ranger told the story so well.
The ranger needed to have a tazer so the people on the tour and us watching could hear the story without the disruption. A quick recharger for the taser would have been needed as well.
I would've spanked my kids for being disruptive if they kept screaming like that while someones talking.
A taser gets their attention quicker. Just a few thousand harmless volts.
For gods sake
Kids that age screw everything up...Ive been to many National Parks on guided tours,and there's always one or two that make distractions
Find a sitter,or leave your rugrats at home if they don't know how to act,or you can't control them.
i agree with your comments
I usually book private tours so I don’t have to deal with the noise. 🤣🤷🏻♀️
God no kidding stfu son , my mom would of sent me to the car by now lol their clearly too young and want to play ,u can't blame the little critters though
there a time to be a kid when you go to a place like this and you run arround disrespecfully and screaming while the man is trying to explain geez controll you kids teach em manners like the mom looks like she can barely handle 1 by herself and she looks so tired but she has like 3-4 kids
I don't think its a good idea to bring a bunch of kids under the ages of 8 or 9 on a historic tour thing. They're bound to be bored and probably act up.
Anyone else used to whisper into their kids' ear when they were being disruptive, that if they don't knock it off they will get the spanking of their lifetime? Because that always worked wonders for my kids.
Good story What rude kids.
Thanks for watching!!
Well there are plenty of comments about how rude they were for allowing their kids to be so disrespectful, maybe they the adults didn't understand that only rude people allow their children to behave in such a way and now will be making sure no other rangers, tour guides, or the like will NOT be treated so poorly NEXT time!
Cheers!
I would have said something if i paid money took time to take a tour and its being ruined by rude people definitely wouldn't have stayed quiet
Kudos to the guide, multiple distractions, a sensitive, highly detailed story to tell, loud kids, but he keeps going...
Thanks for watching and the input!!Yes he was great and very patient!!
I can't watch the video, those kids are ruining it for me! Smdh..
That guide is very patient.
Thanks for watching!! Yes, he was a very good guide!! :)
Yea, I'd say he has done this before, a "few" times. LOL Its an alright gov job. I've known some people/park rangers.
Agreed, I couldn’t even finish the video those kids annoyed me so much
Park Ranger John needs to learn how to tailor his presentation to keep the attention of kids. I zoned out after five minutes. Will add this to my "sleep inducing audio" playlist on my iPhone.
@@novembertango1298 yes ., I is difficult to watch. I think it’s just one kid that’s out of control and mom is too into Floyd’s story to control him.
Love the guide but hate the f-ing little monsters who are making all the racket. Mom needs to get them outta there.
Haha, yeah the guide was awesome!! Thanks for trying to watch!!
That guide is the best
Thanks for watching!! He was a very good guide we enjoyed him and his storytelling!! :)
I've never understood what compels people to want to go caving. I'm happy to leave the caves to the bats and spiders.
I would love to watch the rest of this but I couldn’t get past the first 4 minutes because of those kids
zach shutt why would you even take your kids to something like this? They aren’t interested. Take them to the zoo
I know I'm sorry they were very disruptive was thinking about not even uploading but the ranger told such a great story. :(
Yes I can't watch any more
@@ViseGrip1974 why didnt you say anything? I wouldve paused the video, and politely interrupted and then firmly gave those parents and kids a very stern and rude obligation to stfu or leave!
@@truthalways yeah good luck doing that when you aren't hiding behind a screen.
The Park Ranger was very good about telling the story , too bad those kids couldn't behave so we can hear him 😡😣
I know the Ranger was excellent!!
Right, totally reasonable to expect them to not move or talk or anything just to make the perfect RUclips video
@@arianebolt1575 lol ... I know right
@@arianebolt1575 No, we were just disciplined.
Ariane Bolt ... No, but it is reasonable to EXPECT children to be quite and behave when someone is talking, especially if it's a guided tour. JS.
Cheers!
How about leaving the children at home??
Hey lady… your shushing isn’t working. Try another method!
While the ranger was talking about cave exploration, that kid was already mining for gold.
Kids.
Thanks for watching!!
It’s such an amazing story but the Ranger let out a huge amount of it. In fact a young reporter named Miller did indeed reach Floyd and he was the one who discovered the discarded mason jars leading down to where he was trapped. Because Miller was so small in addition to reporting, he ended up leading the extended rescue effort including several attempts to pull him out and use a car jack to lift the rock off of his foot. Unfortunately, the multiple trips down into the cave caused the access to Floyd to cave-in and that’s when they started to dig down and cut across to where he was.
Reporter Miller who was only in his early 20s became the youngest reporter ever to win a Pulitzer prize. For his stories about the rescue effort in real time. The National Guard actually held a court like investigation during the rescue effort because there was speculationThat the rescue effort was extended so more people could make money on all the public attention and commanded. They were headlines and newspapers as far away as London and roughly 15,000 people surrounding the rescue effort.
Wow, very interesting thank you for sharing the extra input!!
That would be skeets miller
It was reported the tunnel collapsed but Brucker proved it was still able to get to Floyd.
It was the 2nd or 3rd larget news story of the century and it was reported around the world.
Actually the court of inquirie was about weather or not if Floyd was really in the cave and if he was sneaking in and out of the cave.
The 15000 day was at the height of the rescue later dubbed Carnival Sunday and most people never even got close to the cave.. There was food vendors, pray groups, balloons with Sand Cave printed on them and a manageriy of other things going on.
Kirk Douglas stared in a movie loosely based on the rescue that was named Carnival Sunday, later renamed Ace In The Hole
Well lets if I can, give you a little better details.
The ranger, most Rangers are rotated around the park system. This ranger may have not had time to learn everything. IV been studying this store for 20+yrs and still don't know everything.
Miller, Skeets Miller was his name. Skeets because he was small like a bug. Yes he did reach Floyd along with a few others. Skeets did in deed find Mason jars, coffee cans used for digging and other things. He just happen to be one of the ones who reporting it. Skeets heard about the rescue and wanted to report it. When Skeets arrived at the cave he found people just milling around, nobody doing anything, the rescue had stalled. He aproach some people sitting on a log and told them he was there for the story and asked what was going on. A reply came back to him out of the dark, mind you locals did not trust out siders and Skeets was one. The voice said "why don't you go find out for yourself" This was one of Floyds brother and he had been down to speak to Floyd. Skeets, having never been in a cave before, he slowly made the crawl down to find Floyd and just before he got to Floyd he slipped and landed atop of a wet mushy mass these was a burlap sake his brother draped over Floyd to try to devert water that was dripping on Floyds face. He moaned and told Skeets to get off him. When he made it back out of the cave and reported to the locals they started to trust him. So began Skeets many rescue trips into the cave and leaded many more but there was all so other trips and other trip leaders. Skeets ended up winning the Pulitzer Prize for his reporting.
The cave in. It is true all the trips began to have its affects on the cave and it was reported that the passage was starting to squeeze shut. By this time many men had been in the cave and most refused to go back in. It was truly a very scary place to go. And at this point all cave work stopped and the shaft was started. Many yrs later it was proven there was a way a round the blockage and Floyd could still be reached.
The shaft. It was reported that digging was like digging into crunchy peanut butter and was very slow. Only two men could work in the shaft at a time and the deeper they dug the more the shaft became unstable. Afraid to keep digging the lateral tunnel was dug and they soon found Floyd. The plan was to come in below Floyd, they broke into the cave just above Floyds head. A doctor was sent down the shaft to evaluate Floyds condition. To large to enter the lateral tunnel a smaller man was sent to Floyd. The doctor told the man what to do and he reported back to the doctor. The conclusion was Floyd had died a couple days before the got to him. Because everything was so unstable it was decided to leave Floyd there. No one was willing to rescue a dead man. The shaft was back filled.
A funeral service was held at Sand Cave. This was Floyds first buiral out of five. Both Homer, a brother,,, and Lee, the father went on the vaudeville circuit to raise money to have Floyd dug up. Hommer and lee had their own tours.
Court of inquiry. Was held about half way through the rescue, the rescue was of stopped for this. There was plenty of rescue teams rotating trips to continue on.
The court was done to investigate the claims that Floyd was not trapped. It was report the Floyd just might be sneaking in and out of the cave. He wasn't. And if anyone was hampering the rescue for personnel gain. To this day I myself wonder the samething. But that's another story.
The National Guard was called in to control the crowd around the cave that's all.
The 17 day rescue attempt brought world wide fame and was front page news around the word right up to minute by minute updates of the rescue to the president. I have some of those papers. Reporters was cut throat on reporting back to their new papers and yellow news reports ran wild oh the fantastic stories ran wild until Skeets was appointed to report the news to all the other reporters. Those reports were the only info going out after that. So cut throat that Lucky Lindy was give film to fly some photos back to the reporters paper. Off course when Lindy got back to the newspaper the film canister was empty. No early photos for that paper.
Carnival Sunday. People were coming to witness the rescue from everywhere. Cars were lined up along the road to the cave for miles. At the height of the rescue on a Sunday there was thousands of people milling around, most never even got close to the cave. There was food vender, balloons with Sand Cave printed on them and all kinds of other stuff going on as if was a county fair.
Some years later there was a movie made based loosely on the Collins story. First named Carnival Sunday later changed to Ace In The Hole staring Kirk Douglas. Movie still plays often. I have it on my DVR.
So that covers the details of that post.
This is just a watered down version of some of the things
that was going on during the rescue. I myself left out a lot of the story and this is not meant to tell the whole thing, Not even close to telling it all. This story is a onion, it has stories in a stories in a story. And I'm relaying all this from memory.
As I hinted, Floyd suffered five burials before all was said and done. At one point in a class covered coffin as a tourist attraction, 3rd and 4th burials. But that's another story.
And again let my point out a few things. The rescue lasted 17 days, he was in a very tight passage with a 27 pound rock trapping his foot. Annual temps in the cave is around
57* has wet from water dripping on him and no room to move his body to warm up. According to the doctor he was alive 15 days. One word, hypothermia. We know for a fact what temperature and conditions determines hypothermia, for Floyd it would be right around three days.
There is NO way he lived stuck in that hole for 15 days. Half of it with no contact with any persons.
When you look at everything of the rescue the printed story does not add up and most certainly points to at least possibly man slauter.
Any questions??
floyd
Some people can ignore their kids & “let them be kids”, which apparently the man 👨 speaking could, but others can’t! Me being one ☝️! Shame for he was a good speaker, very informative, would have loved to seen & hear 👂 more but gave up due to the disrespect the parent(s) gave by letting the children have free range ☹️
Thanks for watching!! Yes, he was very good!!
Parents are failing their children by not teaching them manners, how to share space with adults and not be disruptive. I work with children as part of my job and I have noticed a disturbing increase in hyperactivity, disruptiveness and lack of attention, with parents doing exactly nothing.
Whatever happened to disruptive children being taken to the car for a cool down and talking to?
What we get, when we as parents, aren't even allowed to bust that azz...I'll lay the hand of God on mine..little snots
Wow they stole the body 😳 this poor man they should have left him where he got buried in the first time 🙄 gosh let the man R.I.P. 🙏🏼✝️
I know sad stuff!! :(
Collins had 5 funerals. To body was stolen when he was on display in crystal cave and then put him back in the cave. This was his 3rd and 4th funeral
The story is so interesting but no offense to the people BUT would have been so much more interesting without kids in the way and being noisy.
True, sorry about that but thanks for watching!!
You don't have to take a guided tour for this. You can go to all the same places on your own. Visiting Sand Cave there is a few info boards and a nice wood walk going to the cave. Actually going to the top of a over look deck. You can't see much from the deck and it doesn't do it any justice. It's probably 30 40 yards from the parking area to the deck. Why? I don't know why but the right side of the walk has a railing all the way to the deck. When I first started going to the cave none of that stuff was there and if you didn't know about it you wouldn't know to go back there. It was just a small path going into the woods. Get off the path on the right side and follow it back. When you get close to the end go a little to the right and you will be at the top of the sink. Find a spot in that area where you can start heading down to the cave. There is a rough path on the left wall going down to the cave mouth. As you go down look to the right. Might be a little hard to see it at first but there is a long mound of dirt from the cave heading down the sink floor. That is the dirt from the rescue shaft digging and it's the dirt they couldn't be put back in the shaft. And if you didn't know about there is a large what looks like a sinkhole or crater, what ever you want to call it. That was the rescue shaft. Now it is said The sinkhole is there because the dirt has settled in, or the bottom of the shaft has falling in to a rumored room below it
Wow what an amazing creepy tragic story ,despite the noisy critters and lack of parental intervening to cease n desist the behaviors it was a great informative video 😊first time hearing it. Does this Ranger still guide these tours ,love to tour w him
Liking for the wonderful ranger here. I don't remember being ao disrespectful as those kids in the video 🤦🏻♀️🙄 Those kids even disrespected Floyd's grave!!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Thanks for posting this!! I’m seeing Mammoth Cave tomorrow, but because of covid it’s a self guided tour. This video gives me some insight that I would otherwise not receive. Thanks again.
Hope you have a good time it is a very awesome place!! :)
Mammoth offers a self guided tour year round. You will enter the cave through the historic enteranc. This leads you into the retundra room, a very large circular room. To the right is bat avanue. Straight ahead is the remains of the leaching vats and mining works. Peter dirt was leached the water was pumped to the surface through pipes made of logs, boiled down and the nitric was shipped to DuPonts mill, the same DoPont that is still around today, and was refined into gun powder that we needed to fight the British. Our gunpowder at that time was shipped from overseas. The British cut off our supply. Had it not been for Mammoth and DoPont we would all be British.and that is shout the extent of the self guided tour. Past. That is Booths amphitheater this was John Wilks booths brother, Edwin, and he recited Shakespeare here and stairs going up to gothic av leading into signature hall, the ceiling is covered with historical graffiti names and dates from the turn of the century and this was done with candle smoke and onto the devils arm chair. That's as far as the tour goes in this passage these days but past this is lover's leap and going down to lower passages. Back in the main passage continues to the giants coffin. The passage continues but you will be lead behind the giants coffin down into the wooden bowl room and on to lower passages to continue the guided tour. The self guided tour is mainly just in the retundra area.
Ranger John...hope you're still giving tours there. Great job
That kid Christopher is gonna end up a feature on Missing 411 with Dave Paulites
Or he takes the jab ....
@@houndjog a medication jab you mean .? He is annoying
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Ranger did a terrific job telling this story, I appreciate you sharing this with us
Thanks for watching!! 😀
Great story telling, but could not hang for the whole vid due to those kids.
I’m a direct descendant of Mr Collins and as such, anytime I enter the mouth of any Kentucky cave I’ve far less incentive to extend my adventure
My great grandmother was roxy mae collins (she changed her first name to betty). I believe she was Floyd's cousin. She kept his story alive with her family. We've all learned his ballad and story at a very young age. I've always wanted to visit kentucky and learn more about our roots.
Interesting story, patient guide, annoying children!
Awesome video and I love the guide
Thanks for watching!! He was a very good guide!! :)
The kids at the grave tho 💀 bad af😂 those parents like really tho smdh
RIP Sir ❤
Thanks for watching!!
Those kids are the ones in line at the store yelling because mom is ignoring them on her phone with her friend gossiping about the neighbors.
Haha, Im sure of that!!
Wow, the kids in this video really needs a father to tan their hides. The single mother in this video needs to be a parent. Take the kids off by themselves and make them mind. The kids ruined this video. The mother was to blame. This is a common site to see all across the US though, single mothers allowing their kids to run wild, ruining the experience for everyone else because the mother is expecting the tour guide to be the missing father figure.
I will never have kids.
Is anyone paying attention to this man,, he seems like a decent geezer
He's got more patience then me lol kids will be kids but their clearly bored as hell iam surprised one didn't go over that railing 🙄 Messn around
@Jannah Lam the guide was awesome though ,I enjoyed his information. If I get over this way I'd enjoy takn his tour . I've watched a few videos on this and I feel the raw truth from his version
Is that kid really playing with his boogers
I feel sorry for this Ranger trying to explain Floyd Collins cave rescue with kids who could care less. These children should go do something more geared to their attention span. It certainly isn't listening to this story.
What rude & undisciplined children! Parents should have taken them & left!
I agree however the father was not around to bust there butts like I would have if my 2 boys had acted like that I can promise you that.
Just watched internet historians video. Not sure what’s real or fake. Makes me wonder what’s left out of each. Pls check it out though guys.
Just because you are in a park doesn't mean your kids should be disrespectful and disruptive. These kids are rude and need to be disciplined. They're trying this ranger's patience. If they're too young to listen get them out of there.
Dual income no kids :)
Thanks for watching!! 😂
#childfree
I am a Collins and Mammoth Cave historian. I also collect Collins stuff. First thing is Sand Cave is not a cave. It's just a shelter cave it's just one big room. But on the left side of the cave against the wall is where Collins entered the passage. The passage is not a solid passage but rather maded up of large boulders in what is called breakdown. And there is no sand in Sand Cave.
The rescue attempt lasted almost two weeks and it was reported around the world.
There is one big problem though. When they reached Floyd the doctor said he had been died for only a couple of days. Again this took almost two weeks to get to Floyd. He was in a very tight spot and unable to move, it was cold 55 degrees at best and wet. He would have died of hypothermia in less than three days at best. And he had no food or water almost that whole time.
This has turned out to be a very deep and dark story for sure with many hidden secrets along the way. Thanks again for your input.
So are you saying, Nobody heard him or went looking for him before he died?
@@chrisperrien7055 I'm not sure just what the question refuses to but ok here we go......
The property was owned by two farmer's, Estes and Doyle.
He would stay at their houses while he work on the cave. Floyd ate breakfast at Doyles that morning and then went to the cave. Floyd was known to disappear for a day or two at a times so when he didn't show up a Doyle's later that day Doyle just thought he went to Estes house. People knew where Floyd was working, It wasn't until the next day, when Doyle talked to Estes about Floyd. They headed to the cave. Jewell, Estes son went with them. When they got to the cave they seen Floyds coat hanging from a branch. Jewell headed right into the cave. Floyd was trapped 150ft into the cave. The passage circle down like a corkscrew. When Floyd was trapped he yelled for help untill his voice gave out. Because of the nature of the cave his voice didn't travel far so no one would had heard him anyway. Jewell made it to Floyd and he told Jewell to go and get help and that's what Jewell did.
At this point Floyd had been trapped a day and a half and so the rescue began.
People knew where he was but because Floyd had a habit of disappearing no one was worried about him and no one would have heard him yelling.
I think that answers your question?
@@chrisperrien7055 no body said that. No one could hear him yelling, he tried till his voice gave out on day 1.
People knew where he was, he had breakfast at Doyle's. The farmers property where the cave is He had been working the passage for 3weeks Floyd had a habit of disappearing for a few days.so when he didn't show up that night no one was worried. Doyle just thought he went to Estes house the other cave owner. When the farmers got together the next day and no one had seen him they went right over to the cave. At this point he had been trapped for 24+ hours. They found his coat on a branch when the go to the cave. Estes son Jewell went into the cave and found Floyd 150 ft down in a spirowing shaped passage. Floyd to Jewell to go get help.
And so started the rescue.
@@ViseGrip1974 you have no idea how deep and dark secrets go. 100 yrs and I'm still looking for some answers.
Why, five minutes in, do I have the urge to smack my innocent grandson on his butt and tell him to sit down. ???
god i hope those buggers if they ever go to pearl harbor they don't act like this... oh geez the kids are playing on top of his grave.... come on
these kids ain't even listening to him they've got video games in their heads, 3:04 she watching those kids like a hawk
Dude this ranger just gives me the best vibes
Thanks for watching!! Yes sir he was great!!
He's awesome listened to this several times
The little kids are to young for this. Their attention spans too short. However, the story is fascinating! Thank you Mr Ranger Sir
Those kids don’t realize that they just missed out on a great story all because of their attention span😂
Haha true they didn't!! Thanks for watching!!
The picture of Floyd in the right corner, that is actually a post card and the flag is for Crystal Cave. I do own one of these original post cards and several others.
here from internet historian
Thanks for watching!!
Really cool story, thanks for uploading.
Those kids were freaking wild though, a belt woulda made a world of difference lol
I Bet that woman that remembers everything is a very smart person in general.
Excellent tour guide! Thanks for the wonderful tour, please come to glacier national park in Montana
He was great for sure!! Thanks for watching!!
Hook It Up Outdoors great story I truly enjoyed it, thank you 🙏 for replying.
Why do poeple insist on cave diving or cave exploring i will never understand what goes through there minds life is so precious god gave us one life and to take chances like this or even current days is irresponsible.
God isn’t real
OFTLOG.... Parent those kids!!!!!
Smithsonian magazine had a great article on this
WHAT AN EXCELLENT GUIDE AND HISTORY TELLER WELL WORTH WATCHING TOTALLY ENJOYED THE KIND INFORMATIVE RESPECTFUL WAY THIS GENTLEMAN PRESENTED US WITH SUCH SAD TRAUMATIC HISTORY
NOT YELLING ALMOST COMPLETELY BLIND EVERYONE STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY AND BLESSED
My kids would never act like that
What a tragedy. This is a tale of complete incompetency of the emergency workers and cowards. Floyd may have survived if the emergency workers actually did their job. Thanks for the story.
Thanks for watching and the input!!
A proud survivor of the wooden spoon and the leather belt! Always been very respectful ever since. Words of advice.
Yes sir, I am survivor of that as well and better off because of it!!
Yessss thank you Sir ,kids are kids but dang act right ....I would of been sitting in the parking lot in the car windows up waiting for an arse whoopn when my parents got back lol
As it should be! It's from a lack of parenting that allows children to behave like this. SMDH!
Cheers!
Bust those azzez! And hope big brother don't lock you up for it.
I’m always finding new terrifying caving disasters. Right when I thought I’d heard it all.
Thanks for uploading this.
Thanks for watching!! :)
I like the mom , after the kid dropped his binoculars off the platform, goes " We'll just hold a kid over the side by his ankles and so he can reach down and grab them" And the other mom just goes, "Yea, well we can do that later" lol
This Floyd guy's story is just funny, I hope he was a comedian or he missed and then made his calling after his accidental death. He has a better story than most. RIP Floyd Collins
Thanks for watching!! 🙂
Chris Perrien .... That was funny I actually did lol!
Cheers!
Please if you’ve got one with adhd for pity’s sake, don’t subject him or the hapless public listening to such a storytelling. Take him out of immediate earshot. Asap. Spoken by someone who has adhd.
First this guide is doing great . My mom would never let me be so distracting as a child ..Second.. my parents took me here when it was just the cave no tour no walkways .. i was able to laydown to look into the opening which had a metal grate inserted bars so no one could get down there but the shaft remnemts were still there and amazingly all around that area you will see rocks with more openings you can throw small stones down and hear them going down... Its amazing property...i couldnt believe all the trees and walkways and etc ..
Practically Perfect Park Ranger.
Impressed by the Park Ranger. Thank you for sharing this video.
"and so on and so forth."
That freaking kid!
WHY WHY WHY do parents in insist on bringing kids to places when they know it’s not gonna work? U know your own kids, u know they aren’t going to want to chill & listen, yet u still bring them so they annoy the people who are there because they want to learn about the history
However, I would have given up and quit with that kid being so unruly, every place and thing and this means certain restaurants are not for kids , people choose not to be distracted by nutso kids
LOL!!! AND SOFORTH!!!!! How many times is this guy going to say, "AND SOWFORTH"?????????