Armageddon & Israel in Bible Prophecy: Voddie Baucham
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2023
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James White. Now Voddie. I am so glad there are men of God that can tackle this Israel topic without compromise. Protect Voddie AT ALL COST...
Christians are waking up. 🤠
He has come along ways. One of his sermons denouncing Replacement Theologians?
Finally some Truth! Ty Voddie Baucham! Glory be to THE MOST HIGH the Father of our LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST! by the Power of the HOLY SPIRIT!!! AMEIN
Thank you for sharing this! It is always edifying to hear sound biblical doctrine.
I hope that my life and choices please God.
There is nothing anyone can do to please God the Father. Only believing and trusting in Jesus Christ and His finished work will please God.
@@morganglen80🙏 AMEN
Be found in Christ - worship him praise him and trust his finished work, he died for what you and I do and who we are, he will make
You new and only God can, beg for mercy and keep your eyes on Christ
Read Gods word please 🙏
Man, a lot of people need to hear these words. Thanks for sharing!
I feel so lost in my church as people say amen to basically Israel does no wrong
I understand.
I believe you're in a great situation to point your brothers and sisters back toward Christ and the only prophecy that ultimately matters: He is coming again!
We have a tremendous opportunity right now to remind the world and our local churches that Christ is the fulfillment of ALL God's promises and that God's presence is no longer attached to the land - God's presence is dwells in His church, meaning His people! Remind them that the relevant prophecy for this age is that God is reclaiming the entire world through King Jesus and His Spirit-filled followers.
May the Lord bless, comfort, and strengthen you!
Thank you for watching and sharing!
Interesting point 🤔
Then the question becomes WHO are the people in the land?
@@frederickweeksjr.1189 rev 2:9
I command you for your patience and sending my support for you standing in Truth despite even here receiving venom from decived...how blinded ppl can get, big falling away indeed... absolute walking in blood thirsty darkness, ❤ God bless all who have eyes to see 🙏
Thank you for stating the truth. Some people aren't going to like the geopolitical comment but it true.
Thank you thank you thank you, I needed to hear this message! God bless you
Hallelujah!
Wonderful message ❤thank You for re-upload, must be shared!
Amen!!!🙌❤🙏
Thank you for sharing this wonderful message. We need it.
I’ve been looking for this message for over a month! Thank you for posting it!
Very powerful....
Just as good a second time
Well spoken.
No geopolitical entity is of the spirit.
And I am not a christian, as it happens.
I listen for truth in spirit.
great clip!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. ❤
BEAUTIFUL SERMON sir. Thank God for you 🙏
Thank you so very much for sharing Gods Word with us , God wants Holiness not happiness 😎
Wow! Aman
Excellent. Simply excellent.
Now this is biblical preaching
So many of the prophecies have been fulfilled
“There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people.”
― Howard Zinn
No man is innocent
Praise be to God and Lord Jesus Christ and thank you for posting this truth as there are those (Dispensationalists) who don't understand the difference between believing Jews and the Jews whose father is the devil (as Jesus said in John 8:44) who say they are Jews but belong to the synagogue of Satan (Rev.2:9)&(Rev.3:9) Jesus Christ fulfilled the Abrahamic covenant on the cross and broke down the Jew/Gentile divide (Eph.2:11-22) making us fellow heirs and partakers of the promise (Eph.3:6) and by that same faith of Abraham, Moses and the prophets (Hebrews 11) grafted us into the same tree (Rom.11:16-24) fulfilling the Abrahamic covenant that not only the Jews but Gentiles will be blessed by the SEED of Abraham(Gen.12:1-3) through faith in Jesus Christ (Gal.3:7-9) but anyone who denies the Son Jesus Christ denies the Father (1John2:22-23). Hence "they (the unbelieving Jews) went out from us because none of them were of us" otherwise they would've accepted Him as their Messiah (1John2:18-23). Don't fall prey to that replacement theology that says the Church replaced the Jews and now God has two Brides (the Church and the Jews). Pray for the repentance of the non believing Jews that the hardening of their hearts be reversed. Better yet preach the gospel to your "Jewish brethren" who are awaiting their messiah aka the antichrist although they will very highly reject the gospel (Hint: Stephen was stoned to death by Jews, Paul was stoned almost to death by Jews and was beat and flogged by Jews on numerous occasions before beheaded by the Romans, James (the less) had his brain bashed out by a fullers club while being beat and stoned by Jews at the age of 94, Matthias the replacement for Judas was stoned and had his head severed by Jews, Mark (born of Jewish parents of the tribe of Levi and gave us the gospel) was dragged to pieces by Jews, and don't forget our Lord Jesus Christ...) Don't support either side of atrocities; neither those of the unbelieving Jews who hate Christians nor the Muslims who hate the Christians just as much as unbelieving Jews. True Israel are all those who believe in Jesus Christ (Gal.6:15-16) "Jesus Christ is Lord!" to whom every knee shall bow (Phil.2:10)
Zechariah 12:10 says when Jesus returns the Jews who are alive then will look on Jesus whom they had pierced and be saved and filled with the Holy Spirit. Where Voddie is incorrect is that he believes the church has replaced Israel. Read Romans 9-11 God is a Zionist. Read Ezekiel 37-39. I don’t support Jews who turn from Jesus but God will restore Israel when the time comes as Isaiah said if it were not for the remnant Israel would have become like Sodom and Gomorrah. Jesus is the only way and no one is saved without Him but only through Him and when He returns at His second coming Israel will come to know Him. God will defend Israel when their enemies surround them Ezekiel 38-39
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Since the New Testament fulfills everything (even the Abrahamic covenant) lets see what the Lord Jesus Christ says in the New Testament: (Rev.3:9; Indeed, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan WHO SAY THEY ARE JEWS and ARE NOT, BUT LIE - indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I HAVE LOVED YOU! There is no place in heaven for ANYONE who denies Christ, especially Jews who reject Him. The biggest and most common mistake that people who hold to the Dispensational Zionist view make, is interpret the Bible from Old Testament (replacement) rather then interpreting the bible from New Testament (fulfillment) and end up with Jesus having 3 brides (1st Bride is the faithful Jews who preached the gospel to the Gentiles who accepted Jesus Christ thereby being grafted in becoming partakers of the same commonwealth (Eph.3:6) known as "believing Jews and Gentiles=Christians"), (2nd Bride is the unbelieving Jews who reject Jesus Christ, reject His final Sacrifice and continue to blasphemously sacrifice goats, lambs, bulls etc to this day) and of course the (3rd Bride, the "left behind" Gentiles who will accept Jesus after the so-called "rapture" and repent)... Jesus Christ only has one Bride and she IS the new Israel/Jerusalem consisting of believing Jews and Gentiles aka Christians (see Rev.21:9-10). Don't forget that "Christianity" began with believing Jews who preached the gospel not only to Gentiles but also to the "non-believing Jews" and is why Paul was pleading with the non-believing Jews as they are his countrymen who are going to hell just like everyone else who denies Jesus Christ as Savior (Rom.9:3-7)... If you really care about the Jews in geopolitical Israel then preach the gospel to them because they're on their way to hell just like everyone else who rejects Jesus Christ. Have a blessed day and hope these verses help you better understand that not only Paul tried pleading with the Jews, but Jesus Himself said "Jerusalem Jerusalem who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her. How often I wanted to gather you but you are not willing" (Mat.23:37-39) When Jesus comes back it will be too late but they will bow their knee just like all the non-believers will bow the knee to beg for more time which won't come(Phil.2:10). Pastor Voddie Baucham holds to fulfillment theology (joining two drops of water does not replace but fulfill). Dispensationalists who believe that the church/bride of Christ is separate "people of God" who will be "raptured" believe in replacement theology. The church/bride of Christ isn't going anywhere until the last person for whom Jesus died repents (whether unbelieving Jew or Gentile) and all nations will turn against the "Spiritual Israel of God"=Christians. When the Bible says every nation will turn against God's people It's talking about every nation turning against Christians (God's Spiritual Israel) not geopolitical nation of Israel who reject Jesus Christ.
@@konstantinmorgunov196 then read the Bible ! I think where you are confused is that you think I’m saying Israel will be saved regardless what they believe but I’m telling you God will lead the remnant to believe in Jesus. God does not lie in Ezekiel 37-39 ; Zachariah 12:10 ; Revelation 7:4 ;
Romans 11:25-27 For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery-so that you will not be wise in your own estimation-that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in;
26 and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.”
27 “This is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”
@@BHFWaterloo That "Deliverer" out of Zion is Jesus Christ and Romans 9 through 12 is talking about Gentiles being grafted into faithful Jews who accepted Jesus Christ and are altogether "God's Israel" (don't forget that "Christianity" began with Jews who accepted Christ and preached the gospel to all nations thereby fulfilling the promise to Abraham that every nation will be blessed and become God's Israel (Gen. 12:1-3) & (Gal.3:7-9) The promise to Abraham already included all the nations of the earth and not just geopolitical Israel. Notice you brought up (Rev.7:4) but failed to mention verse (Rev.7:9) that proves that God's Israel IS "the great multitude of ALL NATIONS, TRIBES, PEOPLES, and TONGUES". Do you even understand what that list in Revelation 7:5-8 means? (now that you brought (Rev.7) up?) Careful how you answer that because you're challenging a Christian Jew and I know the difference between the list of the "sons of Jacob" and the "tribes of Israel" and that list in Revelation 7 is very unique, appearing only in Revelation 7 and is missing Dan and Ephraim and has Manasseh (who is a Gentile since his mother Asenath was an Egyptian daughter of Poti-Pherah). That list begins with Judah because Jesus Christ IS the "Lion of the tribe of Judah" (Rev.5:5) and the rest of the list is a combination of Christ believing Jews and Gentiles who ARE the "REMNANT" "Jews" and the firstfruits of Gods true Israel (Rev.14) who are a blessing to all nations who believe in our Lord Jesus Christ. That's fulfillment! Replacement is what Dispensational churches teach of the Church/Bride of Christ being separate people of God who replaced instead of becoming one and God will "rapture" the Gentile church while the unbelieving Jews will be "left behind" along with the other non-believers. That is a lie from hell that is sending not only unChristian people to hell but unbelieving Jews because there won't be any second chances. Do you not understand that telling Jews who reject Jesus Christ that they are "God's people" is a lie that's keeping them from accepting Jesus Christ as their Messiah now? Why do you think apostle Paul was pleading with them every Sabbath in synagogues, telling them they're going to hell and if he could he'd become accursed for them just to save them (Rom.9:1-3) ??? Why do you think they killed Stephen for telling them that they're going to hell for rejecting Christ and the prophets (Acts7:51-60)??? Do you not understand that by doing the exact opposite and lying to them by telling them they're "God's nation" you're doing them a big disservice? If you really truly care for them then preach the gospel to them while there is still hope.
@@BHFWaterloo That "Deliverer" out of Zion is Jesus Christ and Romans 9 through 12 is talking about Gentiles being grafted into faithful Jews who accepted Jesus Christ and are altogether "God's Israel" (don't forget that "Christianity" began with Jews who accepted Christ and preached the gospel to all nations thereby fulfilling the promise to Abraham that every nation will be blessed and become God's Israel (Gen. 12:1-3) & (Gal.3:7-9) The promise to Abraham already included all the nations of the earth and not just geopolitical Israel. Do you not understand (Romans 9:6-8)? "They are NOT ALL ISRAEL WHO ARE OF ISRAEL NOR ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN because they are the seed OF ABRAHAM...That is those who are the children of the flesh, THESE ARE NOT the CHILDREN of GOD."...? Loud and clear: These are NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD! How do you miss this? Notice you brought up (Rev.7:4) but failed to mention verse (Rev.7:9) that proves that God's Israel IS "the great multitude of ALL NATIONS, TRIBES, PEOPLES, and TONGUES". Do you even understand what that list in Revelation 7:5-8 means? (now that you brought (Rev.7) up?) Careful how you answer that because you're challenging a Christian Jew and I know the difference between the list of the "sons of Jacob" and the "tribes of Israel" and that list in Revelation 7 is very unique, appearing only in Revelation 7 and is missing Dan and Ephraim and has Manasseh (who is a Gentile since his mother Asenath was an Egyptian daughter of Poti-Pherah). That list begins with Judah because Jesus Christ IS the "Lion of the tribe of Judah" (Rev.5:5) and the rest of the list is a combination of Christ believing Jews and Gentiles who ARE the "REMNANT" "Jews" and the firstfruits of Gods true Israel (Rev.14) who are a blessing to all nations who believe in our Lord Jesus Christ. That's fulfillment! Replacement is what Dispensational churches teach of the Church/Bride of Christ being separate people of God who replaced instead of becoming one and God will "rapture" the Gentile church while the unbelieving Jews will be "left behind" along with the other non-believers. That is a lie from hell that is sending not only unChristian people to hell but unbelieving Jews because there won't be any second chances. Do you not understand that telling Jews who reject Jesus Christ that they are "God's people" is a lie that's keeping them from accepting Jesus Christ as their Messiah now? Why do you think apostle Paul was pleading with them every Sabbath in synagogues, telling them they're going to hell and if he could he'd become accursed for them just to save them (Rom.9:1-3) ??? Why do you think they killed Stephen for telling them that they're going to hell for rejecting Christ and the prophets (Acts7:51-60)??? Do you not understand that by doing the exact opposite of Jesus Christ and the apostles and lying to them by telling them they're "God's nation" you're doing them a big disservice? If you really truly care for them then preach the gospel to them while there is still hope.
This is Biblical common sense on Israel. The view of many a pre millennial dispensationalist truly is a threat to world peace.
Christ is Lord and Saviour and Jews all over the world need to get in line and convert and accept this .......the New Jerusalem is in Heaven not on Earth .
"I even I am YHWH (the Father), besides ME there is NO SAVIOR" Isaiah 43:11.
There is NO OTHER but ME Isaiah 45:5-7.
"Put not your trust in Princes nor a SON OF MAN in whom there is NO SALVATION" Psalm 146:3
Like the pastor said, most Christians have never even read the whole bible.
God is not a man, Hosea 11:9.
And worshipping any man claiming to be God in the flesh is an abomination and the apostasy the NT warned would deceive all but the very elect. Yet Chris have been doing it since 325 ad at the catholic council of Nicea. Right under your noses and you still can't figure it our.
Can you tell me what sermon this is of Voddie’s?
Link located inside the video description. -Summer
Romans 11:17-25 (KJV) And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Spiritual Israel? Show me chapter and verse. Don't force your personal interpretation into the Bible.
Before Jesus comes back Israel will come back to their land. Many have and many have accepted Yeshua the Messiah. Thanks to the Messianics mostly (yeah, not you!).
Even in Jesus' time there were religious and political Jews. That doesn't cancel God's unconditional covenant with Abraham.
You sure youre not one of those anti-semithic lutheran gentile?
Do we need weapons to fight wars ? Or do we need wars to create markets for weapons?
In 2022, the military spending worldwide amounted to 2.24 trillion U.S. dollars,
As 9,000 people die from conflict-driven hunger every day.
A child dies from hunger every 10 seconds.
" Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final
sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not
clothed. " by Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Roman's 11:
11 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather, through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. 12 Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion[a] mean!
13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. 15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? 16 If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches.
17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[b] of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.
Help me where you may disagree, but wouldn’t this scripture fully disagree with what vodie is saying here? Reading this seems to say that God is not done with Israel.
@@samuelsmith2596 Only those who do not continue in unbelief (v23).
There is no longer Jew nor Gentile. All must come in thru the same Door.
@@johnwilcox6409 yes. We are grafted in by Christ. We are all Gods children. This is unrelated to promises made to Israel by God. Paul makes that part clear.
I totally disagree. GOD is not a liar and doesn’t change. The Church is NOT spiritual Israel. They are STILL His chosen people and yes it’s geographical and political position is extremely important! I respect Voddie but I do not agree with this particular position.
That’s great. Demonstrate why you disagree with an argument from God’s Word applied in its proper context. The OT nation of Israel cannot and will not be replaced. I’m sure we agree on that. But anyone who asserts that the modern nation state of Israel is the same entity as OT Israel has to demonstrate from God’s word that “Abraham’s seed” is the modern nation state of Israel. See Galatians 3, particularly v. 16. Israel is fulfilled in Christ and there has only ever been one true faith: see Ephesians 4:3-8, e.g. Therefore, what was once OT Israel’s claim, has been fulfilled in Christ and His church. That is not “replacement” theology. That is “fulfillment” theology. Christian theology. The argument for modern Israel being a sanctified and holy nation is a Talmudic argument that blasphemes Christ.
I’m not trying to be a jerk. I appreciate your opinion. But, the land belongs to God, the armies of the world belong to God and when a nation who hates Christ and has defiled the word of God by replacing it with their traditions stand up and claims to be operations under God’s blessing, we are commanded to speak the truth in love.
Joshua 5,
“13 When Joshua was by Jericho, he lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, a man was standing before him with his drawn sword in his hand. And Joshua went to him and said to him, “Are you for us, or for our adversaries?” 14And he said, “No; but I am the commander of the army of the LORD. Now I have come.” And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshipedc and said to him, “What does my lord say to his servant?” 15And the commander of the LORD’s army said to Joshua, “Take off your sandals from your feet, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so.”
Thank you for your comment. I do appreciate your input. This debate can be extremely edifying as long Christ is honored always.
How did you come to conclusion that you have? Did you study the OT (the whole thing) for yourself to get your doctrine? Or were you taught what to believe by your pastor or churches. Because everyone i ask who believes in Dispensationalism had actually never studied the whole bible in context. They just repeat a doctrine that didn't come into the church until Darby and Scofield started teaching it about 150 years ago. Be honest. Because if you had actually studied the whole bible in context you'd find its the church that God has blinded their eyes until the day of affliction Jer 16:19-21 ( hebrew text). You have been led into deception about who is who. Clearly defined in the OT. Gen. 48;19 in hebrew might help you. You must be circumcised of the heart remember.
"To WHOMEVER overcomes he will inherit ALL THINGS. I will be his God and he will be MY SON ". Period.
Revelation 21:7.
@@RoseSharon7777 yeah if you really had studied it, then you would understand. Try Romans 11 to start. Be Blessed.
@@etolerific if you had studied the OT, then Roman's would make more sense. You can't just read the NT out of context. Blessings. The NT has absolutely nothing to do with a land in the current middle east.
@@RoseSharon7777 what’s up with your assumptions? I have and do read the entire Bible.
You sound dangerously close to fostering an antisemitic attitude in people with this sermon. Deuteronmy 14:2
Then you haven’t listened. The position is that Jews will be “regathered” when they come to faith in Christ - not because there is a nation in the Middle East
I don’t hear that
Stop with antisemitic crap. Read revelation 2:9 that tells you everything you need to know about Jews. Jews still to this day deny Christ and they are not God's chosen only those who accept Jesus Christ are his people.
That verse is how it was under the old covenant. We live under the new one now. 1 Peter 2:9 says the Church is the holy nation now. Romans says we are spiritual Israel.
Biblical prophecies have been failing for milenea. Perhaps it's time to disregard them entirely and grow out of bronze age mythology.
Not sure exactly what prophecies have failed. Can you give us some examples?
Which one?
This is terrifying. Free Palestine
Palestine was free until they went into Israel and brutally murdered woman, children and babies. And by the way, that land belongs to Israel.. Palestinians are squatters.