Windows 11 vs Linux gaming on 7900 XTX are AMD drivers better on Linux | 7900 XTX | RT On vs Off
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- In this video I'm putting to the test the AMD linux drivers, and check Windows 11 vs Linux gaming on a 7900 XTX. I'm also checking the performance difference when using RT
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Windows drivers
GPU: 23.40.14.01 Beta
Chipset: V6.02.07.2300
Nobara 39 (linux):
GPU: Mesa 24.1.0-devl
CPU Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer III 240 ARGB
GPU: Sapphire RX 7900 XTX Pulse
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PBO Curve All Core -15
Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 32GB Current timings 6200: C30
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh Type C
PSU: BeQuiet! STRAIGHT POWER 11 850W Platinum
SSD Games: Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD, 2 TB, PCIe 4.0
SSD OS: MSI 480 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD, 2TB, PCIe 4.0
OS: Windows 11 Pro Build 22631
0:00 Intro
0:59 Steam Games on Linux
1:55 Pitfall of using Proton Experimental
2:19 Helldiver 2 Windows vs Linux Stability
2:34 7900 XTX tunning on Linux
3:11 Does it work with day one release
3:49 Best for Gog or Epic Store
4:33 Ubisoft and EA store manager
5:13 How I tested
5:40 Horizon Zero Dawn
5:59 Assassins Creed Mirage
6:23 Total War Pharaoh
6:45 Returnal Linux vs Windows RT On
7:07 Guardians of the Galaxy Linux vs Windows RT On
7:28 Guardians of the Galaxy RT Off
7:43 Cyberpunk 2077 Linux vs Windows RT On
8:09 Cyberpunk 2077 RT On
8:24 Dying Light 2 Linux vs Windows RT On
8:48 F1 23 Linux vs Windows RT On
9:16 F1 23 Linux vs Windows RT Off
9:32 Benchmark chart
10:23 Summary 
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Have you ever considered Linux for games? Let me know in the comments below
I didn't know that you can run so many games on Linux :))
If it was plug and play like windows, yes
I think that this is what steers people away from Linix in general, you have to get "dirty" sometimes.
An old friend of my father used to be in charge of IT company, he was in charge of the network infrastructure and it was his first major job. When it came to servers and how to setup everything, he was told by everyone and their mom that he has to use linux and that there's no other option. With that he used Linux for all of infrastructure in company. Several weeks after work was done, suddenly lots of useful information inside the company gone with a blink of an eye. As it turned out, a linux terminal malfunctioned during a storage maintenance and interpreted wrongly one of the commands, resulting in full wipeout of harddrive with crucial data. Since that incident, that man rebuilt the entire network within the company from scratch, switching to windows servers, and never used linux on any computers he worked with ever since. That's all I really know about linux.
Used to daily driver play WoW Shadowlands in Linux (Manjaro at that time). Everything was good until the backend of the game launcher was broken. I ended up having to install Windows 11 again. Played a few games over the years on Linux though Baldur's Gate 3, DOTA2. Am on Nobara currently.
AMD GPUs have two implementations of Vulkan support. RADV, which you're probably using right now, since it is built into Mesa and AMDVLK which is an official implementation. In most scenarios, AMDVLK performs worse than RADV. But for raytracing, which was the problem here, AMDVLK performs even better than windows. It's an easy 20-30% fps boost over RADV, only for raytracing 😅
You are correct, I'm using radv, I didn't know that the AMD implementation is better. I will do a fallowup then, thanks.
Thanks for the video. I am highly considering 7900 XTX on my next build.
Glad it was helpful
Thank you for adding a Total War game. Not many test RTS :)
Great video, very interesting to see this. Linux and proton have come a long way in the last few years, to even being able to play pretty much any game on linux is amazing. I would love to see how it keeps evolving in the next few years too, maybe we can see Valve trying again to make something like the Steam PC's now that the steam deck is such a success.
Me too, I'm gonna look more at yhis down the road. It took me by surprise that same games run as well as on Windows. Fingers crossed that we will have an Windows alternative in the near future
I've been looking for this benchmark for so long!
Also, about the suttery part that you mentioned, have u tried using a freesync monitor?
You can enable vsync and it will make it better, but when you are close to 30 fps, the stuttering is bad.
@@casuallygamin9 well what about freesync? It's different from V-sync (its in your monitor, not a game setting).
Well I have a freesync display, but the sttuters are the same
@@casuallygamin9 ah damn that sucks.
rt is brand new on linux, it still needs a bit time to mature more :-) but the short time from implementing to this performance ist great.. You did use the open source radv driver? which is the standard also on the steam deck? or did you choose the amdgpu-pro one? which is considered to be used for professionel workloads.
I sude the open source radv driver. I didn't make it clear, but this is my first attempt of playing games on Linux. I read that the open source are the best, but I don't know for sure as I didn't test it. I'm amazed how well games run on Linux to be honest, I will keep an eye on this. I'm looking in comparing to Nvidia to see how these GPUs compare to Windows.
I guess I could also test play Guardians of the Galaxy. I have my Baldur's Gate 3 save on my ext4 drive, so I could go back to that also. I mostly used to play WoW on Linux. Nobara has been a great dual boot for me, though I need to leave Windows 11 more again.
Hey, thank you for the insights!
How did you manage to activate the clock controls within CoreCtrl? I use a 7900XTX myself and the card is not correctly recognized and I am not able to change any values!
I installed it directly from Nibqra app store. I didn't do anything special. Try to install it from the command line, mybe that will help. Sorry that I can't be of any help
@@casuallygamin9 I use ZorinOS 17.1. May I ask you which Kernel-Version you are currently running?
Exact kernal: 6.7.6-201.fsync.fc39
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Interesting. Although most benchmars show windows running at atleast 60W more on tha GPU side. I wonder if it is AMD software on windows setting some settings?
actually saw that and changed the clocks and power usage to be at the same level. This way we can see the actual performance difference. By default the power limit is set at 320W in linux. I actually show this in the video, check the tunning section of the video
Linux MESA drivers are so much more effective than Windows drivers. My RX 7900XTX (sapphire vapor X) draws often more than 400W with Windows and less than 340W with Linux for the same performances. I use the X-Plane 12 flight simulation within Linux and the FPS are at least 2x times better than within Windows. This is not on Windows sides, this is on AMD, they are focusing on AAA games and they forget all other users. On the opposite side, my Nvidia RTX 4080 is running far better with Windows than Linux.
right the first game, the metrics are better on windows - slightly, but why does it look so choppy especially in thhe side to side moevement. and much less chopyy un linux?
Keep in mind that my capture card caps at 60 fps, this is why I said that frametime graph is important. Unfortunately is hard to see in the side by side. What I can tell you is that if in Linux you can stay above 90 FPS it feels smooth, it doesn't sttuter as sometimes happens on Windows.
My 7900xtx causes games to crash after a couple of minutes. Occasionally even the desktop environment freezes or crashes. But while running benchmarks it is ok. Dont really know how to troubleshoot.
Windows or Linux? Make sure that you are not daisy changing. What PSU do you have?
If it's a factory overclocked card or you overclocked it yourself... the overclock might make it unstable even on desktop, it might pass stress tests but the pc also might freeze, crash or restart itself. Had the same problem with the rx 7800 xt, followed overclocking guides from techpowerup, ancient gameplays etc. but it ended up that those are wrong and were making my pc unstable. Even compared two different 7800 xts to be sure (Powercolor hellhound and Asus tuf)... The only stress test that could make my pc behave weirdly the most realibly was the Timespy/Timespy extreme (it would pass occt tests, furmark, superposition, valley benchmarks...), with that I managed to overclock the card myself with no performance loss compared to their results but no crashes, pc restarts, freezes etc. If it's behaving weirdly on desktop, most likely the vram clock is set too high since even with not much going on sometimes it can go up randomly
There is tracking in AMD's DRM gitlab for the crashing issues with rx 7000. Specifically, many people are having issues with the random desktop hard lockups. The driver doesn't even get the chance to recover; doesnt matter which driver you're using.
Speculation I've seen is AMD has most of their software team focused on getting their Instinct server gpus working, as currently they're late to market. I doubt we'll
see a fix anytime soon.
How bad are the stutters? I can't really tell with the graph without experiencing it myself.
Not bad, when over 60FPS. Like I said in my latest video, on AMD open soydrivers is better to enable VSYNC.
@@casuallygamin9 But how much over 60 FPS? I would like to play on 1440p@75Fps or do you have to go higher?
Just enable vsync if you have sttuters. I saw that if I'm over 60 FPS to me it seems to run fine.
Using Steam seems straightforward, but for Epic or other game stores seems a bit more complicated. I prefer Windows, but it’s good that Linux can become an alternative down the road
You can use the "Heroic Game Luncher" to replace the Epic Game store, GOG and Amazon gaming on Linux. If you are interested there is also a Windows version if you don't want 20 lunchers install on you Pc.
Just don't use epic then
It's arguably easier on Linux because you can combine basically all launchers into Lutris and launch all of your games from there
This goes for emulated games aswell since you can incorporate emulators into Lutris too
No PC gamer in their right mind should use the epic launcher in the first place, steam is superior in every way to epic failure
RT on linux still green , the best performance is not using RT for the moment. until is full supported
True
why didn't you use steam OS
I was reading about distros good for gaming, and I went with this one. I was using it as well for half a year or more, so it came natural
hmm i read a lot of amd drv bugs these days...
I think it depends. You have to understand that the bulk of yhe industry develops software and they want to make sure that it works on Nvidia, as they control close to 80% of the market. So these companies have AMD or Intel dGPUs not at the top of their priority list and test lightly on. So this is why sometimes there may be more bugs
Your frame times on Linux are really bad.
True, if under 60fps it can be felt, to mitigate that, you need to use Vsync.