1933 Odeon Gramophone in Action
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Axel shows me his 1933 Odeaon Gramophone (aka - phonagraph in the USA). Interesting details:
-no electricity, purely mechanical
-a full wind up will play 2 sides.
-format 78rpm shellac records.
-record in the video (1931 Duke Ellington).
-it's a destructive format, every time you play the record, the needles slightly destroy the shellac record.
-needles come in various thickness, the heavier the thickness, the louder the sound, but also the more you destroy the shellac record. Axel had three different thicknesses.
-the amplifier is hidden under the record.
-it was portable, simply close the case, grab a few records and head over to your friends house to rock out to some jazz music.
-was made in Germany.
-Axel was given the gramophone by an Aunt. It had been in the family since the 1930's and as you can see it is in immaculate condition.
-normally Axel plays his 400 shellac collection on more modern record players to avoid destroying them.
Thanks for sharing Axel, it's amazing to get a vibe for what life was like in the 1930's, the heyday of Lindy Hop. Apparently they used these players well into the 1950's.
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Great record and gramophone you have Axel, and nice colourfull chairs too !
Thanks for this special presentation !
Valuable piece of real music! Thank you! This is real music!
Fantastic! The sound quality is amazing.
@kevinstlaurent Sorry I've not read the description. The point was I thought about the driving principle, either by a little generator that is turned by the crank or a spring like in a clockwork mechanism. The latter I couldn't really believe - but now ;-)
Very nice gramophone! But I thing that the motor needs cleaning and oiling because it works loudly.
Thanks for sharing, 5/5
I love old tech.
The last portable Phonograph/Gramophone was made by His Masters Voice in 1960 I heard.
Fantastic..your vinyle player,
it's a spring powered motor.That's why he had to wind it up using that lever
Hi there ! good stuff guy!
COOOOL great sound!
your governor is a bit off it rattles if I'm not mistaking on the bottom motor plate there's a rectangular or triangular slug of iron with 2 bolts under there, there's a spring steel tongue tale it out and give it a bit of a whack with a round-headed hammer then place it back so the tongue is pushing up the governor and the rattle should be gone.
Superb!
One side needles!!! You should have danced to it to not waste the one time oportunity!!!
Super cool!
I like your gramophone. Very well taken care off.
That sounds better than some of today's systems.
I love gramaphones. Especially the big horned one. I like horned gramaphones
Curious. An old-fashioned wind-up acoustic phonograph with steel needles admidst that colorful modern furniture... Good sound,tho.
Got one
Nice. This is very new.
If shellac dust is found in the vicinity of the phonograph each time it's used, then - just keep it as a curio and not use it at all. Maybe my uncle's phonograph did that with the shellac records.
Amazing! It is fun to show this to my 7yr old daughter who only knows about DVD audio and Blue-ray discs :-)
I like this channel I have too a system, but its fiber gear teeth is damaged so could not play in fullw swing , where can i get its fibre gear ,
@SOPM2007 I have no idea, sorry.
Wow! Cool stuff
Great machine. Does Axel have a RUclips channel? Thanks
Nice
Hey guys I have something very similar but can't find anything on it at all. Looks to maybe be a bit older then your
The Odeon portable was built in Germany. Greetings from Germany
@@the8bitkid698 there is no way because telefunken does not exist nowadays nor they make tubes, they did make awesome vacuum tubes and radio equipment back then btw
@@silentbloodyslayer98 This was made in Germany.
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Should I purchase one? I have some old 78 rpm vinyl records that I want to play and my other record doesn't have a 78, only a 33/45 what's your suggestions for high and low end cost? What about the needle how would I know it's good or bad quality? Also where can I find them?
You may have already figured things out, but I'll answer for archival purposes.
The quality you get form these record players are far from what you would get on a modern HiFi setup, but for novelty purposes they're fine. First of all, they don't play vinyl but shellac records, which is more like glass than plastic. Cost simply depends on condition, make, and model, but there are a lot of them so it shouldn't cost an arm. His Master Voice (HMV) brand gramophones are the highest regarded ones, but watch out for modern "crappophone" reproductions claiming to be original. Though the chanses are slim, if you get a gramophone called Edison you can only play Edison discs on it as Edison discs read up-and-down not side-to-side. The needle is only good for 3 minutes of play and must be changed after playing one side of a record, but you can buy them in packs of hundreds online. There are soft needles which produce a gentler sound, and loud needles which are, well... louder. There are no current manufacurers, so auktions, antique stores, ebay, and thrift stores are your best bet.
Thanks, for the knowledge. I'm trying to look for authentic gramophone those reproductions are not worth it on my novelty vinyl records. I have some from the 1920s-1930s. Ruth Etting, Marion Harris, etc.
Armani Nguon try checking craigslist, there's a chance someone could be selling one on there.
@@AlagomSwede Your answer is crap. Shellac is nothing like glass, it's actually real shellac, the stuff you put on furniture. It's like a very hard resin, NOTHING like glass. And when you say HMV is top quality you are talking about Europe, in the USA the top quality players are Victrola and Graphophone. Gramophone is a name used in Europe, in America where these things were all invented, they are called phonographs. America invented the phonograph (Edison, New Jersey, 1877) graphophone (Bell, Washington DC, 1886) and gramophone (Berliner, Washington DC, 1892)
I also want to purchase one gramophone
how much weight should the needle be putting on the record?
A lot. These old machines tracked with a crap load of force. Like over 20 grams.
@@ajtstvandmusicarchivechann1585 But the shellac records were made very strong, and the needle is worn by the record, rather than the record being worn by the needle. You are supposed to use a fresh needle with every play.
"One needle, one side".. does that mean that you can only use the needle once?
+Jørn Landbakk yep
+Jørn Landbakk Ideally yes, this is an advice though, everyone back then used their needles up to 5-7 times before the sound quality became worse and started to destroy the disc. So this rule only applies to your most precious records.
Nowadays these needles are quite cheap anyway, about 7,50€/100 with shipping, so about 0,02 to 0,07€ each time
@Moonwalker917: where do you order these needles for this price?
Bodemjager2nd
Not sure where you live, I live in Europe so I get them new from Germany, shipping included ebay.eu/1TPp1az
You may also try your luck with google, but you shouldn't pay more than 10$ for 100.
+Moonwalker917 i live in the Netherlands. Thanks for the tip, i'll look in to buying some needles, because i will pick up a phonograph wednesday that's suposed to be in working order
How much is this. ?
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That handle protrudes out the side in an excessive manner. I suspect its a crap-o-phone.
What kind of motor is this?
stupid question
@@hyzercreeknot a stupid question
Probably a single spring
@@Altchannel2988 stupid answer
the motor sounds like to need a repair,i think...!
Its mechanical theres no motor
CBF1 This Motor is mechanical,like in a clock
Yeah, i know but the motor is probably a spring or something
It's not called a phonograph anywhere.
+dalekman tardis It's called a phonagraph here in the U.S M8.
This in not orginal soundbox