Please bring Tim Cogshell more often. His insight, presentation and views are interesting and relevant. I love his commentary and what he brings to the table is worth being a regular guest host that I would enjoy seeing.
This movie was fucking amazing, just watched it. Took a couple of people that aren't really into long movies, considering this movie was 2 hours and 15 minutes, I was kind of iffy. But we all came out of the movie really satisfied, it was really interesting, really funny, and kept your attention throughout the movie. 10/10 would highly recommend. Spike Lee has made another classic movie.
Rudie Obias I understand why that's good, but I hope you're not implying that it's "problematic" for a white film to be reviewed by a black critic and vice versa
I just finished watched this movie and came straight over for the review. I’m having a hard time processing it all and its like everything Katie said is exactly what I’m feeling.
good to see Spike Lee back on track After his terrible oldboy remake i almost gave up on him Adam Driver was the Highlight for me performance wise and i loved his character
Marcel Körner I think the Old Boy remake was part of those deals where in order to get financing for a project he really cares about the studio required him to do a movie for them first.
My theater busted out laughing when Ron said America would never elect a racist president (something to that Nature). They do show Trump call them Very Fine People at the end. The people at my screening applauded at the end of the showing.
Who knew so many would be sucked in by Obama, he showed himself to be extremely racist. His speech in Dallas is hard to listen to without feel bad for the cops and people who were shot by "one of Obama's sons".
Of all the Spike Lee movies I have seen, this is the best. And the message is a good one. All the folks that the alt-right are targeting, and boy is there a lot of them, need to put aside their differences and work together.
Oh my goodness. When she threw it to Tim to explain the film, it made me cringe. Lol. The obvious choice right? lol But I love how he said "don't be afraid". Rotfl.
Spike Lee's movies have always been a mixed bag for me there's only been 3 that i really liked (Tales from The Hood, Malcolm X and Jungle Fever) and i never really managed to connect with Do The Right Thing. but Black Klansman hit out of the park on so many levels including the fuck you message to duke and trump aside from the actual period story line.
Such a good movie, even for non Americans like me. I love everything about it, the plot and humour and the sad parts. I've seen it 5 times, and keep discovering new things in it.
The energetically clumsy klan member in the background could be revealed to be Kelso. And we could hear Kitty Foreman's trademark laugh under her hood too.
Finally saw this last night. Looking for reviews and discussions, it’s eye-opening how many white folks online are incensed at how “racist” and “divisive” it is. What is with the immediate “reverse-racism” reaction? That seems like what the movie is about in the end. But then we’re treated to witnessing that rxn in real time. Feel bad for all those people walking around with that hate and fear in their hearts.
Nice to see new faces! ....But if you're going to have subs, then I have two VERY IMPORTANT WORDS for you --- [pulls cheerleader pompoms from behind her back] DAVE WHITE DAVE WHITE DAVE WHITE!!!! ....that is all.
Sometimes I listen to these reviews while doing something else and don’t always see the visual ‘spoiler alert’ flashed on the screen. Can I recommend some kind of auditory spoiler alert or at least a sound that would draw my attention back to the screen? I definitely appreciate the spoiler alert though, this is a nice addition.
To the resident black expert on the panel: The fact that you have to explain the difference between the two versions of the n-word shows there still is a variety of opinions of that word among black-Americans. Note: It's the same word for me, just spelled differently; one is a slang version, the other is not. With that said, I'm looking forward to seeing this film.
The word isn't the same for me. The slang term is more like "What up my dude" while the English term is geared towards hatred, wickedness and vile disgust based one's ethnicity.
There are a couple of black people who feel the same, blinkzone. I've actually corrected some that have used it towards me. For example, I would tell them I'm not your 'nigga' or 'nigger.' (This happened between myself and another black guy who passed by me on a Friday night in a lively Santa Cruz, a few years back during college, saying 'hello' in his own way to another black man....although, I'm a bit different in how I see myself and how I talk). In the workplace -- previous retail job as a shift lead -- I've even spoken out against it; either version isn't appropriate for the workplace, in my opinion.
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The movie was great. Can someone explain the scene where they open the door at the end and the two characters are being drawn towards the window? That's the only thing that confused me. I know it's an artistic meaning.
+manansis86 It's one of Spike Lee's signature shots--the rolling dolly shot. He uses it in many of his movies. I first noticed it in "Jungle Fever." As for it's artistic meaning here...well, I suppose it's up to personal interpretation. (I don't have one. I'd have to consider it).
I was actually kind of irritated when I heard it was Denzel Washington's son, just because I *didn't* think he looked just like his dad. It's one of those things where I might have enjoyed it just a little bit more without making that connection until after the movie. Still seeing it, of course, but it was a grumble kinda thing.
Gangrel Aussie I hear ya on that, I felt the same way but after seeing it tonight, i do have to say, that David Washington did his thing. I felt him as the character and was emotionally invested. Apart from sounding like Denzel a bit was the only thing I noticed, but that didn't take me out of the flick. Some powerful well made stuff.
@@EzeICE Yeah, It's not even going to phase me once I start watching, It's more like a weird background thing more than anything else. And to be fair, I hope this gets him some personal notice for other big roles in film (I refuse to watch Ballers, It's just not happening).
I was crying my eyes out at the end with the footage, it made me hate this country, which I feel often lately. It was the kind of movie I usually don't like, but really enjoyed it. I'm reluctant to give the movie to my racist conservative family, not sure how they would react...
It is so dishonest to say this is a true story. It is a movie adaptation of a book that was written about a true story and the author of the book is the black officer in the story and he has stated in interviews that the writers of the movie changed a huge amount of the story that he wrote about in his book. For one they made the white undercover officer Jewish and made that an important element although that was not true in reality also the black cop was never beaten by white cops. Although they did infiltrate the organization there was never any bombing plot. They portrayed The Clansman as unintelligent Hillbillies when in reality this took place in Colorado and most of the members worked at NORAD it is so dishonest to stay this is a true story. It is a movie at temptation of a book that was written about a true story and the author of the book is the black officer in the story and he has stated in interviews that the writers of the movie changed a huge amount of the story that he wrote about in his book. For 1 then made the white undercover officer Jewish and made that and important element although that was not true in reality also the black cop was never beat by white cops. Although they did infiltrate the organization there was never any bombing play. They portrayed the clans men as on intelligent Hillbillies when in reality this to place in Colorado and most of the members work at NORAD therefore were highly intelligent. I could go on and on giving examples but you get the picture
Shaun as far as I know nothing came of it. They weren't doing anything illegal. For sure David Duke wasn't charged in connection with anything, if there was any criminal activity going on while he was leading the klan we would have never heard the end of it and he definitely never would have been elected to hold political office
I was dispointed by all the characters. Its a badly written scipt except for the end which is exciting. the messaging is so didactic and 1st degree, nothing subtle about this film.
agree. The tone was off, the inside jokes unwarranted (like Clay Davis from the Wire going Shhhiieeeet... why?) the subject deserved a more serious approach.
It’s a stylized movie it’s supposed to be out there spike lees like Tarantino you’re not there for subtlety or realism you’re there for style and funk and over the top entertainment
Well that's actually a good comparison... The problem is Tarantino's movies are always credible. Meaning they respect the rules of he universe the creates. I love Spike Lee but this movie was not credible... Which is damning for a movie based on a true story. The characters were one dimensional, the tone is off, the ending sequence doesn't match the rest of the movie... Chi Raq was not realistic but it was credible and coherent. This here is really weak. It's nowhere near the best of his career. I preferred mo'better blues, Malcom x, do the right thing, inside man, chi Raq...
This was a major disappointment. The film is merely a showcase for Spike Lee's crappy agit-prop, his "spikism.". He steps over a grand opportunity to explore a black cop investigating the Klan but says nothing about the FBI's COINTELPRO operation against black student union organizations that the film's lead black cop character is instructed to infiltrate.
That would've been interesting to see as well. I did learn things tho: the postcard thing, destruction of these cases, there's paper work for the kkk, an few other things
@@moviedude22 I'm just saying that's not his actual business title is all. As far as I understand, he's right below Cenk when it comes to 'What the Flick?!' which is what makes me think of Executive Producer.
That Charlottesville footage at the end felt way out of place. It had NOTHING to do with the story that we just saw. It felt like Spike put its in there to tie it in to the current state in our country. And that was also done a few times in the movie. There were at least three nods to Trump; one so blatantly obvious, I thought the actors would star right into the camera. I get he wants to make the statement that things are still bad in this country, but that felt like documentary footage for a completely different story.
Albert Rodriguez ugh...Spike Lee wants to be relevant. He Failed. I am glad there was no sex. He didn't make Denzel's son get naked which was actually classy. Shocking 😎
"That Charlottesville footage at the end felt way out of place. It had NOTHING to do with the story that we just saw." did you fall asleep through most of the movie or what?
Charlottesville were white supremacists reeking havoc on protesters. This movie was about a black undercover cop infiltrating the KKK in the 70's. What part of those stories connect, other than racism at the core? Had this been a film about the Charlottesville riots or a story about the racism becoming more open in our society today, then of course it would fit. But pick one. Believe me, I"m not the only one that felt this way. Scott Mantz of Collider said that scene took him out of the movie.
While I am absolutely going to see this movie, here's a quote (capstone) from the NYT Review: "Maybe not everyone who is white is a racist, but racism is what makes us white." I apologize for tossing that in here when nobody at WTF?! made that comment, but it definitely got a WTF?! response from me. The movie itself sounds like It's got a lot of smart commentary, but 90% quality doesn't mean you should treat the 10% shite as anything but.
Gangrel Aussie The way I am interpreting that comment is that skin color is an actual physical difference between human beings across the globe. But race is a social construct which humans created to catergorize one another based on that difference. Without race, we wouldn't have racism so in a way the fact someone is called white, black, yellow, red, ect lead to racism.
@@defro125 That may not be a bad interpretation; It's always interesting who does or does not count as an "X-american" (African-American, but not Caucasian-American?) but It's still a little curious the same wasn't argued as what makes a person of color black (counter that whites are in the position of power). Anyway.
I thought it was just me. None of the reviews are reviewing so much as pointing out what happened in the movie, how spike is, and the grand overall theme of "racism bad".
I've been thinking all summer about how funny it is that there are two movies that have come out in the span of two months in which the main character, a black man, uses a carefully crafted white voice and pretends to be white when talking on the phone to white people. That's such an extremely specific plot point for two movies made by two totally different people to have.
Yes. Get used to it. If you go to an Oscar Wilde play and all you see is guys pulling handkerchiefs out of their sleeves that's not a flaw in the writing. That's down to you.
Obviously for this review they should have had an all white panel with just one black janitor only slightly in frame in the background. Absolutely a Spike Lee approved review.
I feel that there were plotholes. But other than that i totally disagree with you. This movie was the best ive seen this year and it was HILARIOUS to me at certain points. But thats just opinion on comedy. While in the process of being entertaining and delivering a powerful message. The movie was 2 hours long, and i feel they did all that they could as far as character development that would not make the movie extremely long and get through the story as well. I do not know how they couldve developed the characters better honestly, without making the movie characters personality ridiculously unrealistic or making the movie longer. You could tell that this movie was also made with passion by spike. Honestly the best movie ive seen this year, honest, no brainwashing. And from all other reviews. You are definitely in the minority of opinion on this movie
Malcolm X never espoused handling racism with "violence"; he was an avid supporter of SELF DEFENSE---there's a difference.
Please bring Tim Cogshell more often. His insight, presentation and views are interesting and relevant. I love his commentary and what he brings to the table is worth being a regular guest host that I would enjoy seeing.
This movie was fucking amazing, just watched it. Took a couple of people that aren't really into long movies, considering this movie was 2 hours and 15 minutes, I was kind of iffy. But we all came out of the movie really satisfied, it was really interesting, really funny, and kept your attention throughout the movie. 10/10 would highly recommend. Spike Lee has made another classic movie.
I love the OG panel but this was one of the best guest panels. Exited to watch this movie.
Josh UFO cogshell ftw
I hope Tim Cogshell is on more. I like the way be talks and appreciate his intellect.
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@Gus Major Yea, been watching on flixzone} for since november myself :)
Bring more of Tim Cogshell!
Thoroughly enjoyed the film to be completely truthful
The Black guy is very eloquent. Loved his take on it.
edit:Cogshell
Sudev Sen please make him a regular
A Joy to see Tim Cogshell
Can you bring Tim Cogshell on more often, he's great!
Finally, a black critic on this channel talking about a black film from a black filmmaker!
Rudie Obias I understand why that's good, but I hope you're not implying that it's "problematic" for a white film to be reviewed by a black critic and vice versa
...Better late than never, 😋
I just finished watched this movie and came straight over for the review. I’m having a hard time processing it all and its like everything Katie said is exactly what I’m feeling.
WTF, He really looks like spike lee.
Just put a knicks jersey on him and its actually him.
I don't think Tim Grierson understands Malcolm X at all. Malcolm X and MLK promoted self-defense against white aggression, not violence.
So.....why isn't Tim Cogshell on more reviews?
BourgeoisBlues he's so eloquent.
@What The Flick?! , thank you for your intimate reviews! This is a delight.
I totally thought that was Spike Lee.
Me too.
good to see Spike Lee back on track
After his terrible oldboy remake i almost gave up on him
Adam Driver was the Highlight for me performance wise and i loved his character
Marcel Körner I think the Old Boy remake was part of those deals where in order to get financing for a project he really cares about the studio required him to do a movie for them first.
My theater busted out laughing when Ron said America would never elect a racist president (something to that Nature). They do show Trump call them Very Fine People at the end. The people at my screening applauded at the end of the showing.
Who knew so many would be sucked in by Obama, he showed himself to be extremely racist. His speech in Dallas is hard to listen to without feel bad for the cops and people who were shot by "one of Obama's sons".
Aurora B.......go away
@@aurorab6796 Take your meds, you are leaking. And its impossible to feel bad for cops being shot.
I was right: Lots of triggered Trumpanzees in the comments.
Must be nice to not see thumbs down.
Huh?
Love Spike Lee ever since Do the Right Thing. Malcom x, He Got Game, and Bamboozled are some big favorites.
More reviews with these people, please.
Love Tim Cogshell
Of all the Spike Lee movies I have seen, this is the best. And the message is a good one. All the folks that the alt-right are targeting, and boy is there a lot of them, need to put aside their differences and work together.
With the right Hhwhiite man, you can do anything!!
Oh my goodness. When she threw it to Tim to explain the film, it made me cringe. Lol. The obvious choice right? lol But I love how he said "don't be afraid". Rotfl.
Having just watched Sorry To Bother You I couldn’t help but wonder if there was some code switching going on in this review panel 😅
Ok listening to this review im excited for this movie
great discussion ...I eat my prior criticism of this channel not actually reviewing movies
I love Cogshell's style.
Spike Lee's movies have always been a mixed bag for me there's only been 3 that i really liked (Tales from The Hood, Malcolm X and Jungle Fever) and i never really managed to connect with Do The Right Thing. but Black Klansman hit out of the park on so many levels including the fuck you message to duke and trump aside from the actual period story line.
Shlomo Ben Hungstein, he didn't do Tales from the Hood. Wtf? Seriously, how do you fuck that up?
Blake Acker ....🤣😄😅😆
Check out 25th HOUR. It's pretty amazing and one of his few narrative features not really about race (It stars a mostly white male cast).
Such a good movie, even for non Americans like me.
I love everything about it, the plot and humour and the sad parts. I've seen it 5 times, and keep discovering new things in it.
Time to describe the film. Yo black guy, you wanna field this one?
Great panel, would like to see Cogshell and Grierson on some more.
Just bought my ticket for this afternoon. Praise be AMC+.
Rumor has it, Kurtwood Smith makes a cameo in this film to call Eric Foreman a dumbass.
1128 Mbq That would truly be the best thing ever! 🤣
The energetically clumsy klan member in the background could be revealed to be Kelso.
And we could hear Kitty Foreman's trademark laugh under her hood too.
I don't think John David resembles his father much. Can't believe Christy thinks they look so similar!?
I dont think they look alike much. His sons face is so round while he has the classic action hero square head strong jaw
They look nothing a like, i wouldn't have known that was his son until i heard him speak
he looks just like his mother, sounds like his father
Finally saw this last night. Looking for reviews and discussions, it’s eye-opening how many white folks online are incensed at how “racist” and “divisive” it is. What is with the immediate “reverse-racism” reaction? That seems like what the movie is about in the end. But then we’re treated to witnessing that rxn in real time. Feel bad for all those people walking around with that hate and fear in their hearts.
Nice to see new faces! ....But if you're going to have subs, then I have two VERY IMPORTANT WORDS for you --- [pulls cheerleader pompoms from behind her back]
DAVE WHITE DAVE WHITE DAVE WHITE!!!!
....that is all.
I liked this panel, but if I don't get my Alonzo I'll take a side of Dave any day.
Yo when do we get Dave and Alonso to talk about their favorite romcoms?
It would be great to have Dave as a regular on any WTF shows .....wouldn't want people to think he's a shut-in [snickering].
Sometimes I listen to these reviews while doing something else and don’t always see the visual ‘spoiler alert’ flashed on the screen. Can I recommend some kind of auditory spoiler alert or at least a sound that would draw my attention back to the screen? I definitely appreciate the spoiler alert though, this is a nice addition.
Can't wait to see it.
black panthers were not about violence.
*P R E A C H*
They were forced into it and no one sees that they were on building a strong community and protecting your own
At first, I thought they got Spike Lee as a guest.
Lefty 😂😂
Going to see this film on Saturday
Was on the fence about this but definitely going to see it now.
No crybaby how about whitey act like an adult? Mad because your cultural bullshit is being called out?
Jim Bloak I'm Australian, what even are you talking about?
Jim Bloak uh, yeah what even are you talking about? Your ‘murican isn’t translating well.
Wow look ! Spike Lee made it to the review.
Dancier Hall HAHAHAHA
All black people look the same
To the resident black expert on the panel: The fact that you have to explain the difference between the two versions of the n-word shows there still is a variety of opinions of that word among black-Americans.
Note: It's the same word for me, just spelled differently; one is a slang version, the other is not.
With that said, I'm looking forward to seeing this film.
The a version didn't start getting used until the late 2000's so they have to use the r version or it wouldn't make sense.
The word isn't the same for me. The slang term is more like "What up my dude" while the English term is geared towards hatred, wickedness and vile disgust based one's ethnicity.
There are a couple of black people who feel the same, blinkzone.
I've actually corrected some that have used it towards me. For example, I would tell them I'm not your 'nigga' or 'nigger.' (This happened between myself and another black guy who passed by me on a Friday night in a lively Santa Cruz, a few years back during college, saying 'hello' in his own way to another black man....although, I'm a bit different in how I see myself and how I talk).
In the workplace -- previous retail job as a shift lead -- I've even spoken out against it; either version isn't appropriate for the workplace, in my opinion.
They are the same word in different accents
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The movie was great. Can someone explain the scene where they open the door at the end and the two characters are being drawn towards the window? That's the only thing that confused me. I know it's an artistic meaning.
+manansis86 It's one of Spike Lee's signature shots--the rolling dolly shot. He uses it in many of his movies. I first noticed it in "Jungle Fever." As for it's artistic meaning here...well, I suppose it's up to personal interpretation. (I don't have one. I'd have to consider it).
Christy water container: Flower vase
Comment: Amazing that this is a true story.
I swear she once had a glass bucket with a straw. But hell, it works for her!
Denzels kid looks nothing like him
Adam McHardie He looks just like his mother.
You kidding. You can’t tell me Denzel didn’t look like him when he was that age? They look just alike 😅
Lee has never gotten over, "Driving Miss Daisy."
Haha that guy even looks a lot like Spike Lee
This is so odd. Its like a mirror world what the flick, but Christy runs TYT
Ian Smart Cristy,Alana Duralde,Matt Attehell and Ben Grierkowitz
So I go to this, and then The Meg to decompress?
One Opinion
Maybe Mister Rogers won't you be my neighbor?
😅
DerrickDX Won’t you be my neighbor is a better movie to decompress with
Loved John David in Ballers. Ill try to go see it!
An important and timely work, just saw it: highly entertaining, great sound track, both troubling and inspiring, very worthwhile!
Awsome movie
I was actually kind of irritated when I heard it was Denzel Washington's son, just because I *didn't* think he looked just like his dad. It's one of those things where I might have enjoyed it just a little bit more without making that connection until after the movie. Still seeing it, of course, but it was a grumble kinda thing.
Gangrel Aussie I hear ya on that, I felt the same way but after seeing it tonight, i do have to say, that David Washington did his thing. I felt him as the character and was emotionally invested. Apart from sounding like Denzel a bit was the only thing I noticed, but that didn't take me out of the flick. Some powerful well made stuff.
@@EzeICE Yeah, It's not even going to phase me once I start watching, It's more like a weird background thing more than anything else. And to be fair, I hope this gets him some personal notice for other big roles in film (I refuse to watch Ballers, It's just not happening).
Amazing movie! Spike Lee’s beauty
I was crying my eyes out at the end with the footage, it made me hate this country, which I feel often lately. It was the kind of movie I usually don't like, but really enjoyed it. I'm reluctant to give the movie to my racist conservative family, not sure how they would react...
sounds like cyrano de bergerac with a modern social commentary
Movie of the year!
Disinfectant Spray Infinity war
Agree
This was better than Infinity War
....John David sounds just like his Dad.
Wow, how did you get Spike Lee to come to your show?
I loved this film one of the best of 2018
Hmm weird how you guys only have black reviewers when reviewing black starring films......why cant they be here all the time????
did you not watch the Meg review?
They filmed them in the same sitting dumbass
Cody S I'm well aware. But that wasnt what you complained about.
Uh yeah it is, they invited him for Klansman
Are you stupid or just being difficult?
Can we replace Alonso with Tim Cogshell? Man, the guy is eloquent.
Memorandom we dont have to replace anybody.just ad him to the squad.
No "we" can't replace Alonso. He's got seniority and a large following with WTF. Perhaps Tim can guest on Fridays?
I loved the movie!
Well done Spike!
My video Class of 1984 is about the KKK.
Not a fan of spike lee particularly... movie was serviceable in my opinion.
It is so dishonest to say this is a true story. It is a movie adaptation of a book that was written about a true story and the author of the book is the black officer in the story and he has stated in interviews that the writers of the movie changed a huge amount of the story that he wrote about in his book. For one they made the white undercover officer Jewish and made that an important element although that was not true in reality also the black cop was never beaten by white cops. Although they did infiltrate the organization there was never any bombing plot. They portrayed The Clansman as unintelligent Hillbillies when in reality this took place in Colorado and most of the members worked at NORAD it is so dishonest to stay this is a true story. It is a movie at temptation of a book that was written about a true story and the author of the book is the black officer in the story and he has stated in interviews that the writers of the movie changed a huge amount of the story that he wrote about in his book. For 1 then made the white undercover officer Jewish and made that and important element although that was not true in reality also the black cop was never beat by white cops. Although they did infiltrate the organization there was never any bombing play. They portrayed the clans men as on intelligent Hillbillies when in reality this to place in Colorado and most of the members work at NORAD therefore were highly intelligent. I could go on and on giving examples but you get the picture
Interesting. If there was no bomb plot did they gain anything valuable out of it or did they just monitor them?
Shaun as far as I know nothing came of it. They weren't doing anything illegal. For sure David Duke wasn't charged in connection with anything, if there was any criminal activity going on while he was leading the klan we would have never heard the end of it and he definitely never would have been elected to hold political office
@@shaun7096 Take it with a grain of salt, since REAVER 14 is pretty racist and linked to white supremacist groups.
@@Flantomas Thanks for that info.
Brainwashing trash film ruclips.net/video/oIVlAX4Wmcw/видео.html
the girl in blue was just babbling
BlacKkKlansman es buenísima, pueden revisar la reseña que hice al respecto :) ruclips.net/video/dOPin0CUsy0/видео.html
Good movie which didn’t need the preachy Charlottesville footage tossed in at the end.
didnt a black guy join the kkk the same way? i remember hearing a real story about this.
No moron it's called true history which you know shit about. Everything you say is a lie.
This is a real story
Jim Bloak and?
Once again clown ass deflection. Chicago, Chicago, Chicago is all you clowns have get a life.
can you all shut the fuck up?
I was dispointed by all the characters. Its a badly written scipt except for the end which is exciting. the messaging is so didactic and 1st degree, nothing subtle about this film.
agree.
The tone was off, the inside jokes unwarranted (like Clay Davis from the Wire going Shhhiieeeet... why?)
the subject deserved a more serious approach.
It’s a stylized movie it’s supposed to be out there spike lees like Tarantino you’re not there for subtlety or realism you’re there for style and funk and over the top entertainment
Well that's actually a good comparison... The problem is Tarantino's movies are always credible. Meaning they respect the rules of he universe the creates. I love Spike Lee but this movie was not credible... Which is damning for a movie based on a true story. The characters were one dimensional, the tone is off, the ending sequence doesn't match the rest of the movie...
Chi Raq was not realistic but it was credible and coherent. This here is really weak.
It's nowhere near the best of his career. I preferred mo'better blues, Malcom x, do the right thing, inside man, chi Raq...
@ HunterMH1 I don't what Tarantino you have seen but his film have a lot of layers to them. You are clearly not watching them deeply.
Why would Katie spoil the inclusion of the Charlottesville clips....
not the only one. heard that 3 times, only today
I can't stand Katie at allllll
Tim G always does a lower score than everyone else
a whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhite man
This was a major disappointment. The film is merely a showcase for Spike Lee's crappy agit-prop, his "spikism.". He steps over a grand opportunity to explore a black cop investigating the Klan but says nothing about the FBI's COINTELPRO operation against black student union organizations that the film's lead black cop character is instructed to infiltrate.
That would've been interesting to see as well. I did learn things tho: the postcard thing, destruction of these cases, there's paper work for the kkk, an few other things
Do the "white" thing, Spike
4:00 the banality of evil.
I’ve been mia for a while. Are Matt and Alonso gone?😩
Naw, they just on a lil breaky-break.
Matt's actually the (effective) Executive Producer of WTF?! now, since he left RT.
what exactly is the difference between and "effective" Executive Producer and a plain old Executive Producer?
@@moviedude22 I'm just saying that's not his actual business title is all. As far as I understand, he's right below Cenk when it comes to 'What the Flick?!' which is what makes me think of Executive Producer.
moviedude22 ones effective and the other's ineffective
What is with all the spoilers this week?
I love it it was the one best movie I have ever seen :)
Set in late 1970s it was 1978/1979
Thomas K no it wasn’t. It was around 72. There was a prominent re elect Nixon poster. And Driver mentioned have just returned from Vietnam.
havok6280 I saw Ron Stallworth’s KKK card in one of his resent interviews and it says 1979
That Charlottesville footage at the end felt way out of place. It had NOTHING to do with the story that we just saw. It felt like Spike put its in there to tie it in to the current state in our country. And that was also done a few times in the movie. There were at least three nods to Trump; one so blatantly obvious, I thought the actors would star right into the camera. I get he wants to make the statement that things are still bad in this country, but that felt like documentary footage for a completely different story.
Albert Rodriguez hate groups committing violence was a parallel between the two
Albert Rodriguez ugh...Spike Lee wants to be relevant. He Failed. I am glad there was no sex. He didn't make Denzel's son get naked which was actually classy. Shocking 😎
"That Charlottesville footage at the end felt way out of place. It had NOTHING to do with the story that we just saw." did you fall asleep through most of the movie or what?
Charlottesville were white supremacists reeking havoc on protesters. This movie was about a black undercover cop infiltrating the KKK in the 70's. What part of those stories connect, other than racism at the core? Had this been a film about the Charlottesville riots or a story about the racism becoming more open in our society today, then of course it would fit. But pick one. Believe me, I"m not the only one that felt this way. Scott Mantz of Collider said that scene took him out of the movie.
If you don't think it had anything to do with what you just watched you're either ignorant or a complete moron
Is this the Spike Lee movie since 'Do the Right Thing'?
Josh Rivera malcolm x is his best
Fran Fresno Summer of Sam
NOT A TRUE STORY READ THE BOOK!!!! Nothing that happens here happens in the book.
Ruben It was BASED off a true story.
E M. About as much as Paranormal Activity was Based on a true story.
Ruben is a Racists Troll. Looking for lil boys to chat with, you Perv.
Reggie Wade What are you talking about you creep?
A racist? I should have guessed, you should be ashamed of yourself.
While I am absolutely going to see this movie, here's a quote (capstone) from the NYT Review: "Maybe not everyone who is white is a racist, but racism is what makes us white." I apologize for tossing that in here when nobody at WTF?! made that comment, but it definitely got a WTF?! response from me. The movie itself sounds like It's got a lot of smart commentary, but 90% quality doesn't mean you should treat the 10% shite as anything but.
Gangrel Aussie The way I am interpreting that comment is that skin color is an actual physical difference between human beings across the globe. But race is a social construct which humans created to catergorize one another based on that difference. Without race, we wouldn't have racism so in a way the fact someone is called white, black, yellow, red, ect lead to racism.
@@defro125 That may not be a bad interpretation; It's always interesting who does or does not count as an "X-american" (African-American, but not Caucasian-American?) but It's still a little curious the same wasn't argued as what makes a person of color black (counter that whites are in the position of power). Anyway.
Yeah, instead we would have people discriminating based on if someone were fat, skinny, dumb, smart, acne, ugly, hair, teeth, etc.
so they don't like trading places but they like this crap
I rather have Alonso and Ben they’re more unapologetic, I feel everyone here is walking on eggshells. I give the review 2 thumbs down 👎 👎
I thought it was just me. None of the reviews are reviewing so much as pointing out what happened in the movie, how spike is, and the grand overall theme of "racism bad".
I've been thinking all summer about how funny it is that there are two movies that have come out in the span of two months in which the main character, a black man, uses a carefully crafted white voice and pretends to be white when talking on the phone to white people. That's such an extremely specific plot point for two movies made by two totally different people to have.
0Axel0 what other film ?
Hanniffy Dinn Sorry to Bother You
0:49 "intense and complicated film" are you fucking serious?!
Yes. Get used to it. If you go to an Oscar Wilde play and all you see is guys pulling handkerchiefs out of their sleeves that's not a flaw in the writing. That's down to you.
its a movie about a black guy joining the KKK for a police operation.Its not that complicated
probably not very intense since you are a racist Lindinle.
your second comment Lindinle, you can tell you never saw the movie.
Yeah, what's the big deal, the sea captain with a grudge, the crew in jeopardy, the big yet elusive whale. It writes itself.
Obviously for this review they should have had an all white panel with just one black janitor only slightly in frame in the background. Absolutely a Spike Lee approved review.
Wtf. I thought spike lee was the nigga in the middle
terribly biased, 1-dimensional characters, and honestly not that funny. i feel people are just brainwashed to like it.
I feel that there were plotholes. But other than that i totally disagree with you. This movie was the best ive seen this year and it was HILARIOUS to me at certain points. But thats just opinion on comedy. While in the process of being entertaining and delivering a powerful message. The movie was 2 hours long, and i feel they did all that they could as far as character development that would not make the movie extremely long and get through the story as well. I do not know how they couldve developed the characters better honestly, without making the movie characters personality ridiculously unrealistic or making the movie longer. You could tell that this movie was also made with passion by spike. Honestly the best movie ive seen this year, honest, no brainwashing. And from all other reviews. You are definitely in the minority of opinion on this movie
empty film.... trash
It was a bad movie, but these days you have to like it or you are a racist
"Black" film requires a Black critic lol
I'm just surprised they found an actual Black film critic and didn't just trot out that thot from Dragrace like they usually do.
Damned if they do damned if they don't as long as there's a white person anywhere near something they'll get called racist.
They did Blindspotting and Get Out without the black critic. Maybe he asked to be on it
It's just what WTF does
Black" film requires a Black critic lol Why is this funny to you?