Detroit Pistons Got The STEAL of the Draft!
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Join Matt Broder and Detroit Kool-Aid as they discuss the NBA Draft! How do you feel about the Pistons selecting Ron Holland II? Is Holland's shooting going to be a concern at the NBA Level?
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Maybe because I'm old enough to have lived through all 3 titles, it is easier (for me) to say 'be patient' with this new regime and trust their decisions as they lay the groundwork for how this team moves forwards. I really do believe they are finally serious again about treating this franchise with care and complete dedication towards winning decision making. I believe Trajan can be that guy that pulls the team out of the quick sand they have been sinking in for the last decade plus. He does seem very calculated, and I believe he really will be the primary decision maker and not a 'yes man' to Tom or Arn. For those of us willing to be patient one more time, I think we will start to see a clearer vision of the identity and culture that Trajan and team are working hard to establish. We have to let them get to work. This team won't be contenders based on the very first draft pick, or first off-season of trades, etc. For those who were too young to see a title in Detroit, I feel for you for sure. I'm starved to see us be at the top again as well. I do get your frustration to see a competitive team. All I can say is give Trajan and team a chance before you try to run them out of town like everyone else before them. We will land on our feet again! 🏀
Bro it's been WAY too long
@@FalseNi9e I can't disagree at all lol
Don’t worry we have the next Jimmy Butler and Kawi Leonard but unfortunately they will trade them right before they turn into that player. lol
I like the positivity that you all have.
I do like the fact that Holland doesn't shy away from contact! He's not scared to go to the rim and get it done, which is probably because he's aware of his shooting struggles! Vinson will help him and Ausar get that in order! He's defensive minded and I hope that will inspire some of the team to want to be more defensive! Only time will tell...
Building the Roster with young athletic long 6'7" 6'8" and 6'9" PG, SG, and SF that play Defensive is right direction. This is exactly what is needed for the Pistons!
I remember when Pistons fans lost it when the Pistons drafted some guy named Joe Dumars from McNeese State. R.E.L.A.X
😂 really?! How many years ago?
If his shot was flat or slow, I’d be worried. It’s neither, I think he’ll get into the low 30%. He honestly reminds me of Brandon Jennings, but a dawg on defense.
Are you saying that because he looks like Jennings in the thumbnail?
@@zakkutv1623 yes and his play style (slasher, streak shooter)
he doesn’t play remotely close to Brandon Jennings, they don’t even play the same position, and Jennings was never known for his defense
@@QuHefner you misread my initial statement, i am saying that holland has a jennings-esque play style, PLUS defense.
i don't think any argument about position in today's NBA holds water. the fact is they're both high ceiling, super athletic players who are unusually skinny for their position and score based mostly on their quickness but in spite of their poor shooting.
So the last 4 top picks for pistons play the same 2 positions.....
@tremat3685 we have been trusting for too long...organization is in shambles
Cade is a PG, Ivey is a 2 / combo guard. Duren is a C. Ausar is a 3/4 and this guy is a 4. That's actually not a ton of positional overlap.
@tremat3685 l bet you said the same thing about Troy and Monty too . 😆
@ajgodp13 cade can't play pg he can't defend that position. Duren was picked after ivey in 2022 duren wasn't top pick
@@Willie-C that doesn't make any sense. The guy who was 8th in assists per game last year can't play point because there exists some other PGs who he's not an ideal defensive matchup against? What?
OR, maybe, just maybe, if you have a quicker 2 that guy can sometimes guard the other PG when the matchup isn't ideal. He's absolutely a PG.
And sorry that "got me on a technicality" since I mentioned 5 guys. A 1, 2, 3, 4 and a 5. Ok, fine, take away the 5. They don't all play the same position.
Dalton Knecht was right there
The Pistons took a swing for the fences with this pick. If the wind is blowing the right way, they may have hit the long ball out of the park.
In that case, playoff in spring of 2025! Otherwise, purgatory they remain.
Boo to the NBA Draft.
Another 20 percent shooter …..amazing
The Pistons have a lot of work to do.
Another lottery that can't shot. Five more years of rebuild. Good grief.
No, he was not the steal of the draft. Smh
All they did was guarantee them. Another lottery pick
If he can be a beef stew but x10 better shooter I’ll take that at 5 anyway tbh
Simple solution is trade away some of these players that can’t shoot
Yea.....The Rest Of The League (Ya Know "The GOOD TEAMS") are Just ALL-OVER Trading For Pistons That "CANNOT FRIGGIN' SHOOT' =Sigh!!??.....🤯
Holland sucks 😂😂😂😂😂
Talk to em Kool Aid!!!
I'm still hoping we make a move to trade up in the second round to get Filipowski or Klintman. Those players are both still on the board and would bring something different than what we already have.
We just traded up to 36 i heard
@@c.christopher6115 37, IT'S HAPPENING!! lol
@@MisterJiggles we selected Klintman
Draft James in round 2 and make LA trade you Knecht lol. That would be something.
That would be funny af imagine if that worked😂😂
We just traded up to #36
@@c.christopher6115that is a good trade.. Now I’m hoping Kyle Filipowski drops to #37
@@c.christopher6115 Good find! I didn't even know that. They got the #37 and Wendell Moore for the #53 from the Wolves.
Ron Holland was the best player in this draft. We were fortunate to have him be there at 5 because I had him 1. He is an alpha male. He will learn to shoot because he has good form. He is a dawg all around. When it comes to I.Q and scoring, it is very similar to Lebron. He isn't a passer. He is a dawg on offense and defense. The shooting will come around. He will be able to strap people up defensively next year and will get buckets attacking the rim next year. This guy is a monster. Get ready. People need to remember that this man is 18 and will be 19 all season. Get ready. He can contribute right now. Pistons need to get a PF or two who can shoot the three and stretch the floor. Trade Ivey if necessary. If you need to include Stewart in there then fine. But get PF's who can shoot the three and help Duren grab some boards. This pick is an absolutely amazing get by the Pistons. Get ready!!!
Yess surr Detroit vs everybody 🎯🔥
I agree except trade Ivey he's going to be a star Ivey is a piston through and through just a kid we can't make the biggest mistake ever and trade him.
@davidwright1728 He is a Piston by extension. But he needs the ball in his hand, and I would never, ever give Ivey the ball over Cade. Ivey isn't in the same stratosphere as Cade, so he will have to play off ball. Ivey needs the ball, unfortunately, and he isn't a great shooter. He didn't progress at all from his first to second year, which is very concerning. I know Monty didn't do him any favors, but he is a tweener guard who isn't a good shooter and has horrific defense. He looks confused way too many times out on the court. Sell him, and if you can bring us back a person who is established, with size and can shoot, then I'd take that any day. It would make the Pistons better. I mean, Sasser looked as good as Ivey last year, and that's not good. I'll say this, if Ivey wants to come off the bench, then fine. Either way, we reached on him. We picked him too high, and he didn't deserve to be that high. He is the only player who can't coexist with Cade in the starting lineup. If he wants to come off the bench, then fine, but he won't be happy about that. I just think both sides need to call it.
He’s going to fix ausar and holland jump shots
I agree James the guy can hoop, and he’s a teenager, therefore Fred Vinson will get his shot tightened up. These non fans are unaware about patience.
The draft lottery is a joke and has ruined the Pistons.
The owner/management has ruined the Pistons. The lottery has made it tougher to rebuild but the Pistons aren't bad because of the lottery.
You were happy with Luke Kennard tell the truth
No the Pistons front office has
By saying draft lottery, you meant Tom Gores.
The lottery is fine. We should focus on winning, I'm telling you the advisory board of Cokehead Tom and friends has driven this team into the ground. Trader Jack is rolling in his grave
I smell Copium.
Before Draft - Holland isn't on anyone's top 10 list
After Draft - Every podcaster thinks Holland was a great pick.
He was literally on my big board. I initially had him at #7 and then moved him to #10 in my final version. We reviewed his game on Wednesday mornings show.
Go back and watch yesterday’s Wake Up Woodward to see my top 10 board. Would appreciate your thoughts.
- @DetroitKoolAid
My top 10 big board:
instagram.com/p/C8sIHTsPmW9/?igsh=MmQwcmM0dmc0djFv
I like the pick
Get Buddy Hield for the low
Right
Our organization is paying for past hiring sins .. the hole they are in is so deep , it's pathetic .
Who was throwing him the ball ? I'm sure Cade will get him better looks...
Kool aid is the only person on Woodward that knows basketball
Ron nice his shot gonna come around use his strengths Detroit has athletes have fun let the young guys run and play there game
Not tripping on a 18 year old 3 point shooting. It will get better if he work on it, simple. His battery is what I love
Tech is now a priority. And sign shooters through FA
Bring back Andre Drummond 😂
15 win season!!!!!!
He's not 6'8 ...He's 6'6 ...smh
Great Video! You guys are very positive with good common sense values..Thank you!
You could have had Purdue guy a Center⁉️
Crazy
Yup, he’s going to be a star
They have drafted a player just like Ivey and Cunningham….doesn’t really make sense
They have drafted a player just like Ivey and Cunningham….doesn’t really make sense
I don't wanna hear eaither one of y'all speak wherea Jeff ifrate n my boy
Let Langdon work 😂
I was going to, but it's clear now that he's already out of options to improve this team, and I think he's already exasperated and given up and just collecting a paycheck at this point.
Stew is not a RELIABLE 3 point shooter. SSTAAAHHHHHPPPP with the copium.
"He 'shows tremendous upside for a long career as a serious player in the league. He very well may be the best wing defender in the upcoming draft class."
"He's able to sky for dunks/lobs off one or two feet, an underrated ability that many high-flyers don't have:"
No that's not a description of Ron Holland. That's Ausar Thompson's profile. His OTE 3pt% was around 30%. He ended last season shooting 18% from 3. Holland is at 24%. See where I'm going with this?
However, the silver lining is it's early and from what I've been reading and heard we have an awesome shooting coach in Fred Vinson. Plus our new head coach, whoever he will be, won't, at least I hope he won't, stick Holland in the corner like Monty did Ausar waiting to hoist up 3s when that wasn't his strength.
bold statement but for 18yrs old the way he hangs in air ,attacks rims w both hands ,plays extremely good perimeter defense, steals,blocks shots gets ball and separates, dawg attitude..he reminded me of someone and then i went to watch a 17,18 yrs old tape on kobe ...now before you comment im not saying he will ever be in conversation w one of the GOATs but just watch some tape...yes Holland is a homerun swing boom or bust...but i really like tape on him very unique athleticism
I like the pick he’s young and imo you can’t teach effort and high motor, on top on that without shooting he’s still a bucket.
Great pick , he's a baller
Based on what?
Raw but super athletic. Need a lot of development to be a real NBA player.
As a 30+ year die hard Pistons fan, I'm soooo tired of the cope. Holland WILL NOT make this team better and we all know it deep inside. His G League team went 2-32 and he's one of the worst shooters in the draft now he's supposed to make one of the worst teams in nba history that desperately needs shooting better?
Wow.
You ain't lying! 😂
Need defenders for sure. But if you don’t score at a high efficiency as a team you’ll get blown out by 20 every game. Defenders who can score are scary. Defenders who are terrible on offense are bums aside the elite Bruce Bowen Rodman types