Confronting Cazador & the past (Astarion Romance) | Baldur's Gate 3

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  • @Morgan556.
    @Morgan556. 5 месяцев назад +81

    Cazador: *Calls the Player Cattle*
    Astarion: The f*ck did you just call them?! *Goes protective mode.*

  • @jefthereaper
    @jefthereaper Год назад +734

    Damn, your character really embodies the "unnatural beauty of the elves" quite well.

    • @FocusedFighter777
      @FocusedFighter777 Год назад +29

      Mine had the same face, except twice as hot.
      Makes me want to romance myself.
      As soon as I saw that face in the options, it was it or nothing else.

    • @fink2878
      @fink2878 Год назад +7

      I was looking for this comment 😶

    • @HalloweenJack7
      @HalloweenJack7 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@FocusedFighter777It’s really weird that you feel the need to disparage OP’s character and talk yours up on every comment mentioning it. 🤨

    • @Fingerscrossedout
      @Fingerscrossedout 5 месяцев назад +2

      Ikr it's creepy ​@@HalloweenJack7

  • @TF2CrunchyFrog
    @TF2CrunchyFrog Год назад +1130

    Damn, Astarion screams after he kills Cazador, crying not just because it's finally over but for what he just gave up.... that breaks my heart.

    • @kitsulu8576
      @kitsulu8576 Год назад +176

      I think it's more than that also - Cazador was all he knew, that life was all he knew for centuries... I imagine it must feel like a piece of himself is gone now too... It's emotional because he still has his "humanity so-to-speak" not necessarily because he gave up the power but because it's finally over, all of the pain. Killing his past. Letting go. Closure.

    • @madam-mint
      @madam-mint Год назад +13

      @@kitsulu8576OUCH you hit the nail on the head.

    • @niamhmbt
      @niamhmbt Год назад +10

      I just want to give him a hug

  • @slimj091
    @slimj091 Год назад +1429

    The fact that they left the player character voiceless so that the DnD nerds can voice them themselves is either a stroke a genius or a happy coincidence.

    • @0912sooli
      @0912sooli Год назад +50

      But you also choose voice in character creation

    • @khoavo510
      @khoavo510 Год назад +72

      Voiceless RPG characters aren't anything new. Fallout (excluding 4), Baldur's Gate 1 + 2, Dragon Age Origins, Divinity Original Sin games,... it's a tried and true formula.

    • @natsudragneel2258
      @natsudragneel2258 Год назад +4

      Is there an option to make the mc voiced?

    • @Lena-de2ws
      @Lena-de2ws Год назад +28

      But the character is full muted and it is annoying.

    • @randomdeliveryguy
      @randomdeliveryguy Год назад +3

      Are you new to video games?

  • @lostgirl709
    @lostgirl709 Год назад +414

    Astarion is literally all of us who’ve had toxic parent who never took accountability for anything which is why his story ark is so satisfying. 😅

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 Год назад +65

      What further reinforces the abusive parent comparison is that Cazador's "father" (the vampire that turned him) was just as abusive towards him... and if Astarion ascends it's hinted he will become just as evil himself. Just like victims of parental abuse often become abusive towards their own children

    • @lostgirl709
      @lostgirl709 11 месяцев назад +20

      @@exantiuse497 generational abuse at its finest, but redeemed Astarion is like, a heart balm, he lets go and actually begins to heal and find what he wants to do especially with the patch 5 update, even when you don’t romance him, it’s so beautiful T_T

  • @inferno232
    @inferno232 Год назад +970

    I love how after he tries to be a cold asshole and say that handing over the children meant nothing he... Hears himself say that and goes "....Huh."
    Astarion is probably the best "toe the line between irredeemable monster and salvageable person" I've seen in a while.

    • @GlitterHeather
      @GlitterHeather Год назад +133

      He's very compelling. I think the biggest lies he tells are to himself.

    • @ComedyLoverGirl
      @ComedyLoverGirl Год назад +61

      And also earlier in the game he says he doesn't remember the people he brings to Cazador. But then he sees Sebastian and immediately remembers him and feels terrible about what happened. Small things like this show that Astarion has empathy more than is usually apparent with him.

  • @thecheck968
    @thecheck968 11 месяцев назад +83

    During my Durge playthrough, I told Astarion not to lose his head. And Cazador immediately made Astarion lose his head by mentioning his temper. And I adore it. The Dark Urge and Astarion have a lot of similarities and often see their worst selves in each other. After Astarion tried burning his brother in the sun, my Durge straight up told him that he scares her more than the elder brain.
    So Cazador pried on Astarion's deepest insecurities: that he was a monster beyond his own control and incapable of being loved. He tried to isolate Astarion once again, but he came back with a real family at his side. When the battle started, first thing I had my Durge do was free Astarion and she had the incredible voiceline of "nothing else hurts you on my watch." I fucking love our group of weirdos and how inseparable they become by the end of the game.

  • @chung1041
    @chung1041 Год назад +222

    forget astarion, i want YOUR CHARACTER

    • @FocusedFighter777
      @FocusedFighter777 Год назад +12

      Ha, everyone is drooling over his character, but mine has the same face but is twice as hot.
      Actually makes me want to romance myself.

    • @Human-j3l
      @Human-j3l Год назад +2

      @@FocusedFighter777what race is the character? I want to make one!

    • @kronosstan7196
      @kronosstan7196 11 дней назад

      ​@@FocusedFighter777you've commented this multiple times now 💀 what's up dude

  • @laurencedixon5307
    @laurencedixon5307 4 месяца назад +24

    Astarion killing cazador and Aylin stomping Ketheric have the exact same vibes.
    the Vibes "This is my trauma... Let me goddamn fucking vent!"

  • @lindsyhautekeete1410
    @lindsyhautekeete1410 Год назад +95

    dude your character looked so much like cazador it made me feel uneasy

  • @MsAlyssaB1
    @MsAlyssaB1 Год назад +55

    I know he technically goes to punch him with any option but gotta love that this version has him going to smack him after Cazador insults us. I love that it's pretty much universally agreed that we should be able to comfort him after killing Cazador, hopefully in a patch!

  • @daekieisms
    @daekieisms Год назад +254

    karlach & gale watching astarion go through this and just going DAMN. THAT'S KIND OF FUCKED UP on the inside but not saying a single thing until gale chimes in right at the end is really... they're just standing there behind you and nodding every time you say something, huh. love that for them

  • @alicepiper7455
    @alicepiper7455 Год назад +76

    I want to cry for Astarion at the prison scene. It’s just so sad.

  • @kstar1489
    @kstar1489 Год назад +332

    Your character is gorgeous btw
    -
    Wow, I’d never seen the children scene… that’s so unbelievably messed up
    It’s cool to see the outcomes of the choices I probably would’ve if I had the game. Thanks for showing this! I really like the good route.

  • @catboyblep9687
    @catboyblep9687 Год назад +41

    15:00 i never noticed cazadors little head in the corner and I'm dying

  • @TaniaPomalesArt
    @TaniaPomalesArt 10 месяцев назад +22

    This is truly one of the most powerful scenes I've ever seen .... Regardless of it being a videogame. And why I don't believe I'll ever play an Ascended Astarion run... Because for me this is about being better than the people that broke you down and made you feel less than. It is redemption.

  • @IsabelleCajan
    @IsabelleCajan Год назад +51

    I let Astarion turn into a vampire lord in my first playthrough. Now after seeing this one, makes me want to get this ending in my next.

  • @najomiecournoyer2604
    @najomiecournoyer2604 Год назад +37

    This whole scene was just amazing.

  • @mayaamis
    @mayaamis Год назад +61

    Astarion's story and scenes are breaking my heart... and also.. DAMN your elf is hot!!! 🥰

  • @kitariauthor5943
    @kitariauthor5943 Год назад +15

    In the words of Tumblr; "You can do whatever you want, forever."

  • @Morinaawa
    @Morinaawa Год назад +20

    I wasn't expecting to get flashed while watching lmao

  • @asmalltalk
    @asmalltalk Год назад +115

    oh my god!!! i wasn’t looking for any kids, i didn’t know i was supposed to but damn this is horrible that he lured them there 😩

    • @redredrumxo
      @redredrumxo Год назад +49

      Unfortunately vampire spawn cannot disobey direct commands from their masters, so he didn't really have too much of a choice regardless of how he felt about it. Just makes it that much more horrible tho 😢

    • @asmalltalk
      @asmalltalk Год назад +14

      @@redredrumxo yeah, I missed tons of dialogue where he explains it, also missed meeting the Gur in Rivington which would make me understand it all. honestly good Astarion romance+ending where you help him through the trauma is the best and most rewarding romance ❤

  • @axilyabrimm2605
    @axilyabrimm2605 6 месяцев назад +3

    I feel like it would have been more fitting if he’d ditched the dagger at some point and took a bit out of him.

  • @Shelbzz
    @Shelbzz 10 месяцев назад +3

    I got real lucky. Astarion didn’t get pulled into the ceremony, and I had one of the crew kill one of the sacrifices. My main didn’t have any persuasion checks, and Astarion didn’t even react to having the ritual option taken away from him. 😉

  • @sifter94
    @sifter94 Год назад +85

    Yup lets release several thousand bloodhirsty partially feral vampires what could possibly go wrong?

    • @sportyzmech2104
      @sportyzmech2104 Год назад +75

      You actually get them to move to the UnderDark to live, so out of harms way of the city
      and in the end you get to choose to move there with Astarion to help lead them to a better life

    • @sifter94
      @sifter94 Год назад +22

      @@sportyzmech2104 you cant just shove THOUSANDS of vampires Underground with the guy they hate and expect everything to be ok. they will get hungry and astarion says it himself "underdark is not a good place to hunt try sucking blood from rock metys"

    • @Daelyah
      @Daelyah Год назад +16

      ​@@sifter94Could always just hunt lolthsworn drow, at that point, but it isn't an easy solution to an incredibly fucked up problem.

    • @tayani2695
      @tayani2695 Год назад +12

      Considering it’s confirmed vampires can feed on animals, literally get them a herd of deep rothe. They don’t even need to kill the animals to feed. Animal handlers vampires village.

    • @sifter94
      @sifter94 Год назад

      @@tayani2695 but they themselves stated they are tired of animal blood and wants humanoid also where are you taking from roths for thousands of vampires? Who pays for that? Vampires sociaties are always small in fiction bcs big ones are unsustainlable unless they are evil.

  • @Nayukhuut
    @Nayukhuut Год назад +250

    You were basically covered in Cazador's blood there, Astarion. Could you not have just sorta drank a little of it? Coulda been a full vampire without having to go through that dreadful ritual. That is providing that the blood didn't have to be given willingly, anyway. I am just grumpy because I wanted to be a vampire, but the only way to do that is to let Astarion go through with the ritual and that is not an option I can take. :(
    Thank you kindly for uploading this. These are basically the choices I wanted to make, so it's nice to see em played out before I get there. I like to know what's going to happen in advance. :)

    • @kstar1489
      @kstar1489 Год назад +62

      The ritual does not make him a full vampire, it would make him ascended - beyond a normal vampire. I’m guessing since his master was killed he’s no longer a spawn, and not a true, independent vampire. Idk

    • @Nayukhuut
      @Nayukhuut Год назад +38

      @@kstar1489 I know what the ritual does. I was speaking in context of the game. In the game, the only way for him to become other than a spawn is to go the mega vampire route of the ritual, which basically destroys any kindness he had in him.
      I had been saying I would have loved if he could have just stolen some of Cazador's blood and been able to just become a normal vampire. Purely selfish on my part since I would have loved to become a vampire myself, but that ritual route is a little too evil for me. :(
      And yeh, if he doesn't go through with the ritual, he's just a spawn forever. Killing the master just breaks control over the spawn, it doesn't change the fact that they are a spawn.

    • @TF2CrunchyFrog
      @TF2CrunchyFrog Год назад +73

      I think the master has to give the blood willingly. but yeah, I wish Astarion could've just drank Cazador dry when he decided against the Rite, instead of just killing him.
      And the problem what to do with the spawns remains, despite the heroes making wild promises about helping them.
      Honestly I can't hold Astarion responsible for the fate of the spawns... he clearly didn't know Cazador would turn the people he and the other thralls brought in into spawns for an unholy ritual. And vampire spawns literally can't disobey a direct order by their master, it's mind control. And from the countless scenes we can unlock about Astarion's past, Cazador punished him for the slightest attempt at disobedience as well, torturing and humiliating him to break his spirit. Like inviting Astarion to attent the dinner with their latest "guest" (victim), and if Astarion said yes Cazador would serve him a putrid rat he had to eat, but if he said no Cazador would have him flayed. With his worst memory being "the year of hell", where Cazador had Astarion buried alive as punishment _for a full year_ in total sensory isolation, unable to move or scream, ravaged by hunger. After that, Astarion said, he never disobeyed again and tried not to feel anything. he just went through the motions.
      [A memory I'd never have know about if it weren't for YT, a the player has to be cruel to Astarion to even get to it: First try to force Astarion to use the astral tadpole on himself despite his very destinite protestation that he does _not_ want it and the transformation that comes with it. Then mindmeld with him in the tadpole link and dig through his mind to find his worst memory to use against him to frighten him with. Then tell him he should accept the astral tadpole because he needs to become stronger otherwise Cazador would be able to do things like that to him again. It's truly a horrible move.]
      Not to mention Astarion really _hates_ the Gur, as they're directly responsible for him being a vampire. It was a group of Gur who assaulted him in the streets of Baldur's Gate and beat and stabbed him to death, with Cazador coming to the rescue and scaring them off, then offering Astarion the choice between bleeding to death in an alley or accepting eternal life, and Astarion accepted to get revenge. But I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Cazador paid those Gur to assault Astarion in the first place.

    • @24_Hour_Majima
      @24_Hour_Majima Год назад +6

      ​@Nayukhuut I feel like he couldve easily convinced cazador to share his blood with him at that point.

    • @Nayukhuut
      @Nayukhuut Год назад +13

      @@24_Hour_Majima Sorta do this or I will kill you scenario, and then kill him anyway?
      Yeh, I coulda lived with that. :)

  • @Shatterstar
    @Shatterstar Год назад +26

    Is it just me or does Cazador look like Shang Tsung?

  • @HansBotMaker
    @HansBotMaker Год назад +18

    ....Oh. Th- That's dark.

  • @mackenzieberman1803
    @mackenzieberman1803 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm throwing hands with sebastian guys
    There can only be one

  • @linoonehat1392
    @linoonehat1392 Год назад +10

    why is it in that moment that cazador is seemingly victorious over Astarion, I really wish we could have just bashed Cazador across the back of the head since he is distracted??? like I think it would have worked.

  • @cassieshahan2640
    @cassieshahan2640 11 месяцев назад +23

    I'm always saddened by how everyone Astarion charmed or captured blames him...yes, he absolutely is at fault...but he's also a victim as well...he didn't CHOOSE to do these things...he was tortured and used as a slave for 200 years...I don't think it would make sense for him to NOT be blamed, but I also wish that even one of his victims could actually see how he was nothing more than a tool and maybe, MAYBE not tell him it was his fault, you know?

    • @kylecairns2847
      @kylecairns2847 11 месяцев назад +7

      Aww come on. Astarion damned those people. Cursed them to undeath. Starved them. Left them in conditions worse than he ever experienced short of his one year sealed in a tomb. They were trapped in there for centuries. He couldve refused to continue that cycle. He could’ve chosen to embrace his own suffering rather than see it done to countless others. And he didn’t.
      Astarion deserves sympathy. But to ask it of the people he complicity damned is disproportionate. He deserves their hate. That’s his burden to bear.
      Monsters can be victims. And victims can still be monsters. It feels like people only want to see him one way to the total exclusion of the other.

    • @mysryuza
      @mysryuza 3 месяца назад

      @@kylecairns2847preach

  • @abbster515
    @abbster515 10 месяцев назад +15

    Who voices Sebastion? He's an amazing voice actor!

  • @ch0o_choo
    @ch0o_choo Год назад +1

    your character is so beautiful!!

  • @seratoninny
    @seratoninny Год назад +18

    this is just so depressing

  • @edain6918
    @edain6918 15 дней назад

    Cazador: "I will not speak to cattle"
    Astarion: "Don't you dare to insult my sweetheart, b*tch!"
    *Murder mod on*

  • @purpledragonstudios5174
    @purpledragonstudios5174 Год назад +1

    damn fucking every character in these videos is so fucking gorgeous

  • @bautistamichetti5330
    @bautistamichetti5330 Год назад +19

    How is this not censored or red flagged by yt yet lol 😂

  • @2ndToLast501
    @2ndToLast501 Год назад +6

    Damn astarion left cazador for. cazador!

  • @firestormingfox4169
    @firestormingfox4169 Год назад +10

    10:52
    You just did, and i thought i was dumb
    -me as the barbarian probably
    15:24
    The rogue applty demonstrates why you get sneak attack as long as you have advantage to hit

  • @niemandjemand7922
    @niemandjemand7922 Год назад +17

    7000 souls?

  • @elitegamer9310
    @elitegamer9310 Год назад +53

    I chose to help Astarion complete the Ritual. I know that's the "evil" option, but think about it. Releasing 7000 blood starved Vampires into the world is not a good thing. They are victims and didn't deserve what happened to them, but they are also monsters on the verge of ferality. Also the Underdark is hardly what I would call a bountiful feeding ground. Most likely they'll turn to cannibalism or starve to death.
    Think of the bigger picture. As Vampire Ascendant, Astarion is a truly free Vampire. Once that tadpole is finally removed, Astarion can go out in broad daylight without fear of combusting into flames. He can cross running water. He can enjoy garlic in his meals. And best of all he never has to feed on blood ever again. Not to mention he becomes so much stronger, meaning more power to fight the Absolute.
    I'm not saying it was the right thing, but would you rather have an uber Vampire on your side, or let 7000 feral Vampires run wild?

    • @Selene_Moon98
      @Selene_Moon98 Год назад +68

      You still have the option to not let those 7000 vampires free after killing Cazador and not doing the ritual…

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 Год назад +41

      While I agree releasing the spawn is a bad move, Astarion doesn't need to ascend for that. You can leave the spawn to the cells or kill them if Astarion doesn't ascend.
      Astarion becoming ascended vampire is the worst move by far. He becomes an incredibly evil being of nearly limitless power. He outright says he will seek to dominate the world. Sure, he will remain on your side as long as the threat of ceremorphosis exists but after that's taken care of there's no holding him. You're trading one evil threat for another. And let's not discuss what happens if you romance him and he ascends...

    • @StubbornStupidity
      @StubbornStupidity Год назад +12

      Copium is a hell of a drug

    • @missmaam2662
      @missmaam2662 11 месяцев назад +3

      You can just kill the vampires though? Ascended Astarion fans need to just say they like him ascended and stop coming up with dumb excuses or reasons 😭 He’s a bad guy post ascension, and its okay to like bad characters

    • @akumetsu1167
      @akumetsu1167 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@exantiuse497это просто лицемерие.
      То есть, по сути, обрекать своего возлюбленного или друга на жизнь изгоя (сразу после того, как он узнал и почувствовал, что может быть иначе), это лучший исход? Ради какого-то морального блага?
      Мы, по сути, в игре не видим Вознесенного Астариона. Его поведение и образ мысли. Нам дают увидеть лишь Астариона, одуревшего от возможностей, опьяненного силой, но еще с ней не разобравшимся.
      У отродья-Астариона после расправы над хозяином не остается ничего. У него нет дома, нет окружения - только наш персонаж, и то, с условием - нет силы, нет даже хоть какой-то перспективы. Он потерял свой единственный шанс на нормальную жизнь.
      Зато морально он возвысился, ага. Очень ему это помогло (сарказм).

  • @darklink4160
    @darklink4160 5 дней назад

    I have seen something that I can't unsee now. What is wrong with his hands at 9:33? They go a little crazy for a second there.

  • @headcase2636
    @headcase2636 Год назад +1

    I feel that they're handwaving away the carnage 7000 vampires are gonna cause a bit. That's a fuckin small vampire nation.

  • @bblodlustt
    @bblodlustt Год назад

    this was before acepting the power of bhaal?

  • @Aurii.2222
    @Aurii.2222 Год назад +3

    what was that mod that gave you two twenty dices? was it a mod or?

    • @saltandlight2379
      @saltandlight2379 Год назад +6

      Having advantage due to feats or the situation lets you roll two dice

    • @Aurii.2222
      @Aurii.2222 Год назад

      @@saltandlight2379 thank you! i finally found out after searching a bit but i appreciate the response!

  • @knightlyfables1016
    @knightlyfables1016 Год назад +2

    Is no one talking about the nude dark elf woman? 👀

  • @SzaraSzarancza
    @SzaraSzarancza Год назад +8

    So Astarion seduced the T-800 only to abandon him in some filthy dungeon for a whole damn 170 of years. He is truly a monster.

    • @garrinhas
      @garrinhas 9 месяцев назад +7

      What part about him NOT having control of himself and not knowing about his victims did you not understand? He had to obey his master. And he had no choice.

    • @Lunakitty1234
      @Lunakitty1234 7 месяцев назад +2

      Did you not see the scene where his siblings try to kidnap him? They can’t control their bodies. If they disobey an order, something takes over. It’s like demonic possession or mind control or something. They don’t have a will of their own. And it’s not like Astarion didn’t try to fight it. He tried to help someone once and Cazador punished him for it. He’s not a monster, just scared that if he tries to save anyone else , he’d get punished again.

    • @SzaraSzarancza
      @SzaraSzarancza 7 месяцев назад

      I wonder if the T-800 would look better with blue eyes instead of red ones.🤔

    • @Lunakitty1234
      @Lunakitty1234 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@SzaraSzarancza wat is T-800? Wat r u talking about? The characters name is Sebastian . There is noone called T-800 in Baldurs gate.

    • @SzaraSzarancza
      @SzaraSzarancza 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Lunakitty1234 Terminator T-800