About the public markets: the infrastructure doesn’t stay permanently. They set it up the day before and tear it down at the end of the market. I agree it’s still not ideal. In some places (like Place de La Reunion that we see in the video), people sometime take advantage of it to organize a « garage sale » (minus the garage) or a school fair. Otherwise, thanks for the video. I enjoyed it and even learned a few things
You make me miss Paris more than I already do!!! My daughter is 'stuck' there now for the next 5 days due to train strikes or something, and she couldn't be happier wandering the streets and breathing in your beautiful city. I love your content. Thank you, Mikael!
Happy to see you focus on design... I'm a big design guy and I want to be a planner. I was so giddy to hear you express the same thoughts that I have and, yes, living in Paris must be hard because of the amazing aesthetics of one place and then a complete reversal right across the street. Obviously, much of Paris is pretty homogenous due to Haussmann's renovation, and it would be interesting to add some variety in order to create a harmony between unity and diversity. However, I have a big problem with architectural and public realm interventions that seem as if they purposely try to ruin the aesthetic and vibe of this city. It's as if the modernists are rebelling against what makes Paris awesome and try to build contrary to context, instead of getting inspired from Paris' heritage to create designs that enhance the language of Paris. Also, the Manifesto for the beauty of Paris is indeed a very interesting document but it disappoints me for these exact same reasons. It fixes some absurdities of recent public realm interventions but fails to capture the "joie de vivre", while still perpetuating designs that make Paris uglier. It also categorizes Haussmann's renovation and the avant-garde modernist projects of the 20th century as being of equal stature, which just seems absurd to me. I can talk more about this, if you'd like. I'm very passionate!
On the other hand, one can make an argument in favor of protecting certain existing townscapes. The Marais (formerly secteur sauvegardé), for example, would not be improved by modernist intrusions. By the same token, certain areas that represent the best of the Haussmannian aesthetic should be preserved as secteurs sauvgardés (that level of protection watered down by Macron). I'm not saying all Haussmannian era construction must be retained; however, some planning officials, politicians and urbanists have got it in their head that disdain for 19th century architecture shows they're chic. In fact it shows they're idiots (Martine Aubry, are you listening?). The 19th century (all schools included) was one of the greatest explosions of human genius.
Hi Mikael, just hopping thru your videos of Paris design as I experienced it by myself with my children this fall. Got to mention that the LINCOLN parking facility it named after the 'long roof type cutout' design of the parking space... just flip the real LINCOLN on its doorside and you'll see yourself! Greetings.
I think they put brighter colors on bicycles to make them more visible. But again, it's mostly a car problem that wouldn't exist (or would be mitigated) if cars were just banned from cities. And yes, it's a great thing that we care about our city ! I think it stems with this pride of being Parisian, and the mass-tourism. We don't want our city to become Venice and be driven out of here, we are Parisians and we will keep our city. About the ads, while I do not condone them, the ones placed on the scaffoldings are quite useful actually. They are required by law to use 100% of the profits from the ads for the restoration of the monument, so it's just a way to pay for it. Most buildings need to restore their facades anyway and sadly, we don't have enough money to do it all. If we look back in history, the solution to markets is simple : make markets important by building them a permanent roof. It's not possible for all markets but for some of them, it's a real possibility. Remove malls from city centers, give us back Les Halles ! There's a lot of markets in Paris, the buildings are still there, they're just being used for something else (usually gymnasiums). We just shifted from "mostly buying from the market" to "mostly buying from shops". Driving markets out of permanent places slowly degraded them for the benefit of malls, and also drove poor people out. The market is usually the cheapest way to get things, specifically because sellers don't need to own a shop, just to rent a small lot. Those covered markets already exist like the Marché des Etats-Unis, in Lyon at Professeur Beauvisage - CISL on tram T4 & T6. So, easily accessible by quality public transit. What about the rest of the time ? Well, it could be turned into public sports terrains. Usually, those are supposed to be placed in the center of the neighborhood/town, so people always find a use for the market when it's empty. In Lyon, I've seen young people practice break-dance or others playing football in the comfort of the shade.
About the billboards on scaffoldings : they’re allowed only if the money they get from it is used for the renovation of the building, and they should not cover more than 50% of the scaffolding, the other 50% have to be decorative tarpaulin, often imitating the actual facade. Although ugly, it is an incentive for renovation, to make the city more beautiful eventually.
2:29 Les deux lampes rouge au dessus des stations métro "Guimard" : c'est très pratique pour repérer la station la nuit lorsque l'on marche sans gps, sans smartphone.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I personally like the look of more colorful cities. It is weird if, for example the lampposts you mentioned, all are the same color except for one, but it looks good if they're all different colors.
For the market infrastructure left standing when the vendors are not present: I'm in Strasbourg, and every Saturday there's a market near a nearby park. They leave nothing standing, they install everything with them, and there's no trace of their presence on other days (just a large sidewalk). I've seen the same vendors elsewhere in the city, it seems to be a moving market, setting up shop in small plazzas and parks, again, without leaving a trace of their presence when not in use.
Years ago activists went through the entire Metro one night painting all the advertising billboards black. Would be great to walk through a city without brand names constantly in your face. Great initiative by Sao Paulo.
From what I understand there are only four of the sortie de Métro Guimard left. The most elaborate one at place de la Bastille was dismantled years ago. The Bauhaus folks, who ruled Paris design for far too long, fomented hatred and contempt for Art Nouveau. Even today one can hear some of the Bauhaus true believers refer to it as the Style Nouille (Noodle Style). In the wake of the Bauhaus iconoclasms, some interesting experiments like the Othoniel sortie de Métro somewhere near the Comédie Francaise have been tried.
@@mariembalo3076 Merci. J'aurais dû dire édicule dont il ne reste que trois au lieu de dire sortie. Mais je ne savais pas le nombre de simple entourage, et vous m'en avez éclairé.
The new kiosques are an absolute scandal. The kiosques 1900 were iconic and replicating their design was easy. Also in some neighborhoods the code is not followed at all, I keep sending emails to the municipality about Avenue Foch's horrible lamp posts but it never changes.
Citation d'une parisienne : "Les pistes cyclables ont été faites exclusivement pour les personnes âgées, les femmes enceintes, les enfants en bas âges, les fauteuils-roulants et afin d'assurer un désengorgement du traffic les jours de pluie. Et afin de permettre aux commerces d'avoir de nouveaux clients, les places de stationnements qui permettaient aux voitures de s'arrêter acheter des articles ont été retirées pour y installer des jardinières pédagogiques où les chiens pourront participer à l'enrichissement du sol."
Thanks, I just discovered this Paris manifesto, it's exciting!
The green one is even better: www.apur.org/sites/default/files/atlas_mobilier_urbain_web_0.pdf?token=mjtTtvyB
About the public markets: the infrastructure doesn’t stay permanently. They set it up the day before and tear it down at the end of the market. I agree it’s still not ideal. In some places (like Place de La Reunion that we see in the video), people sometime take advantage of it to organize a « garage sale » (minus the garage) or a school fair. Otherwise, thanks for the video. I enjoyed it and even learned a few things
You make me miss Paris more than I already do!!! My daughter is 'stuck' there now for the next 5 days due to train strikes or something, and she couldn't be happier wandering the streets and breathing in your beautiful city. I love your content. Thank you, Mikael!
Aesthetics equal happiness and well-being. Paris understands this. Great video again!
Happy to see you focus on design...
I'm a big design guy and I want to be a planner. I was so giddy to hear you express the same thoughts that I have and, yes, living in Paris must be hard because of the amazing aesthetics of one place and then a complete reversal right across the street. Obviously, much of Paris is pretty homogenous due to Haussmann's renovation, and it would be interesting to add some variety in order to create a harmony between unity and diversity. However, I have a big problem with architectural and public realm interventions that seem as if they purposely try to ruin the aesthetic and vibe of this city. It's as if the modernists are rebelling against what makes Paris awesome and try to build contrary to context, instead of getting inspired from Paris' heritage to create designs that enhance the language of Paris. Also, the Manifesto for the beauty of Paris is indeed a very interesting document but it disappoints me for these exact same reasons. It fixes some absurdities of recent public realm interventions but fails to capture the "joie de vivre", while still perpetuating designs that make Paris uglier. It also categorizes Haussmann's renovation and the avant-garde modernist projects of the 20th century as being of equal stature, which just seems absurd to me. I can talk more about this, if you'd like. I'm very passionate!
On the other hand, one can make an argument in favor of protecting certain existing townscapes. The Marais (formerly secteur sauvegardé), for example, would not be improved by modernist intrusions. By the same token, certain areas that represent the best of the Haussmannian aesthetic should be preserved as secteurs sauvgardés (that level of protection watered down by Macron).
I'm not saying all Haussmannian era construction must be retained; however, some planning officials, politicians and urbanists have got it in their head that disdain for 19th century architecture shows they're chic. In fact it shows they're idiots (Martine Aubry, are you listening?). The 19th century (all schools included) was one of the greatest explosions of human genius.
Hi Mikael, just hopping thru your videos of Paris design as I experienced it by myself with my children this fall. Got to mention that the LINCOLN parking facility it named after the 'long roof type cutout' design of the parking space... just flip the real LINCOLN on its doorside and you'll see yourself!
Greetings.
The bollard thing kinda reminds me of what Toronto did with their old parking meter poles: turned em into pretty good bicycle parking.
I think they put brighter colors on bicycles to make them more visible. But again, it's mostly a car problem that wouldn't exist (or would be mitigated) if cars were just banned from cities.
And yes, it's a great thing that we care about our city ! I think it stems with this pride of being Parisian, and the mass-tourism. We don't want our city to become Venice and be driven out of here, we are Parisians and we will keep our city.
About the ads, while I do not condone them, the ones placed on the scaffoldings are quite useful actually. They are required by law to use 100% of the profits from the ads for the restoration of the monument, so it's just a way to pay for it. Most buildings need to restore their facades anyway and sadly, we don't have enough money to do it all.
If we look back in history, the solution to markets is simple : make markets important by building them a permanent roof. It's not possible for all markets but for some of them, it's a real possibility. Remove malls from city centers, give us back Les Halles ! There's a lot of markets in Paris, the buildings are still there, they're just being used for something else (usually gymnasiums). We just shifted from "mostly buying from the market" to "mostly buying from shops". Driving markets out of permanent places slowly degraded them for the benefit of malls, and also drove poor people out. The market is usually the cheapest way to get things, specifically because sellers don't need to own a shop, just to rent a small lot. Those covered markets already exist like the Marché des Etats-Unis, in Lyon at Professeur Beauvisage - CISL on tram T4 & T6. So, easily accessible by quality public transit. What about the rest of the time ? Well, it could be turned into public sports terrains. Usually, those are supposed to be placed in the center of the neighborhood/town, so people always find a use for the market when it's empty. In Lyon, I've seen young people practice break-dance or others playing football in the comfort of the shade.
About the billboards on scaffoldings : they’re allowed only if the money they get from it is used for the renovation of the building, and they should not cover more than 50% of the scaffolding, the other 50% have to be decorative tarpaulin, often imitating the actual facade.
Although ugly, it is an incentive for renovation, to make the city more beautiful eventually.
Love this Venturi and Scott brown take on Paris! Great vid, keep ‘em coming please :) using these vids for my urban geo course
2:29 Les deux lampes rouge au dessus des stations métro "Guimard" : c'est très pratique pour repérer la station la nuit lorsque l'on marche sans gps, sans smartphone.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I personally like the look of more colorful cities. It is weird if, for example the lampposts you mentioned, all are the same color except for one, but it looks good if they're all different colors.
Re advertising on scaffolding : when it's around a listed building, part of the revenue goes to the restoration of the monument.
Amazing journey into an amazing city.
For the market infrastructure left standing when the vendors are not present: I'm in Strasbourg, and every Saturday there's a market near a nearby park. They leave nothing standing, they install everything with them, and there's no trace of their presence on other days (just a large sidewalk). I've seen the same vendors elsewhere in the city, it seems to be a moving market, setting up shop in small plazzas and parks, again, without leaving a trace of their presence when not in use.
Design matters!!!!
Years ago activists went through the entire Metro one night painting all the advertising billboards black. Would be great to walk through a city without brand names constantly in your face. Great initiative by Sao Paulo.
From what I understand there are only four of the sortie de Métro Guimard left. The most elaborate one at place de la Bastille was dismantled years ago. The Bauhaus folks, who ruled Paris design for far too long, fomented hatred and contempt for Art Nouveau. Even today one can hear some of the Bauhaus true believers refer to it as the Style Nouille (Noodle Style). In the wake of the Bauhaus iconoclasms, some interesting experiments like the Othoniel sortie de Métro somewhere near the Comédie Francaise have been tried.
Rectification: there are still 87 metro entrances Guimard (of 167)
@@mariembalo3076 Merci. J'aurais dû dire édicule dont il ne reste que trois au lieu de dire sortie. Mais je ne savais pas le nombre de simple entourage, et vous m'en avez éclairé.
In the design guide with the green cover I mention (link to pdf in description) you can see how many are left.
In Marche D'Aligre in the 12th they strip down the market every afternoon and rebuild the next morning
First: he talked about a Brazilian city, and then, a Brazilian model appeared (Gisele - Louis Vuitton ad)
The new kiosques are an absolute scandal. The kiosques 1900 were iconic and replicating their design was easy.
Also in some neighborhoods the code is not followed at all, I keep sending emails to the municipality about Avenue Foch's horrible lamp posts but it never changes.
I don't mind the temporary advertising for fashion brands. They're quite stylish.
Fair enough. But a more clear policy about outdoor ads might be a good idea.
How can you talk about the design of features of the Parisian street without mentioning the pissoirs?!!!
The old ones? I didn't see any. The new ones are ugly and not aesthetic.
4:00 western obsession with boring grays is crazy. It’s doesn’t make your design great or you look classy.
Citation d'une parisienne : "Les pistes cyclables ont été faites exclusivement pour les personnes âgées, les femmes enceintes, les enfants en bas âges, les fauteuils-roulants et afin d'assurer un désengorgement du traffic les jours de pluie. Et afin de permettre aux commerces d'avoir de nouveaux clients, les places de stationnements qui permettaient aux voitures de s'arrêter acheter des articles ont été retirées pour y installer des jardinières pédagogiques où les chiens pourront participer à l'enrichissement du sol."