Is Computer Science Still Worth It?
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I told you not to leak that interview question.. youve now been added to the global tech job black list. Have a good life.
Lmao
Bruh. But global tech job black list is preety insane
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Lol🤣
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Don't study CS... I need less competition for jobs.
lol
dont we all
As a Bio major do study Bio, I want immortality.
@@bubblegodanimation4915 It's impossible for you to achieve immortality.
@@itzhexen0 yet.
One of the “coding assessment” for an internship asked me to code a fullstack file-manager website. Like bro do you want me to clean your toilet after that as well?
hm, this takes a few hours to do that at best. have you tried using me?
💀🙏
Secondary goal: find the cure to cancer (0.1 credits)
I had to solve 12 hard reverse engineering, forensics, and cryptography CTFs, plus a test, then i have to be lucky enough to get an interview, then lucky enough to get an offer 😅
Bruh, why bother, just write the sarcastic answer as your answer, seriously.
I feel like companies these days just put their real problem in the interviews to seek for solution without recruiting new employees xD
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That's because they do. Assessment tests given by companies are very controversial for that reason. Not every company does this and some do use past problems that have already been solved, but good luck in knowing the difference. If you ask and they give you a vague answer about it, that could be a warning that the company may just be pulling your leg.
"Bro just put my fries in the bag" and it's just CaseOh😂😂😂
Revelation 3:20
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Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
@@idehenebenezernice CaseOh quote!
It's surprising to learn that in the US, you often don't need to write a substantial scientific paper to earn a Bachelor's degree, and in some cases, even for a Master's degree. In contrast, I spent around 150 hours working on my Bachelor's degree project in IT engineering, and then another 150 hours writing my thesis, which incorporated references to about 20 other scientific works. The whole point of higher education in Poland is to produce a final scientific work.
I’m not in the higher education field lol, but I do have friends that had to for Masters and especially Doctoral. It depends on what institution you go to. Some prioritize labs, clinicals, shadowing, and mandatory internships butttttt 😂 that only from my group of friends could be very different everywhere else.
Is Poland the best country in Europe for programmers? A friend of mine said so
How is it possible to handle that?
@@nomenbeb5747not op but i wouldnt be surprised. Some offshored work comes from Poland and I've heard better about their work quality and ease to collaboration than other places like India for example.
@@nomenbeb5747I would say Danish people are the best developers, closely followed by polish, then Germans, then British, then Vietnamese. I am obviously personally biased but I have worked closely with devs from all of these nations (as a uk dev myself) I think a significant contributing factor to that is the Danish work ethic, and the Vietnamese are very rude
If AI can't even tell you how many R's in strawberry I don't think it is gonna replace us anytime soon.
Na maan chedk network chuck youtuber he displayed chat gpt new version in which it corrected itself and answered 3r
@@omraut2415leaps and bounds
wtf why did it 2? I mean i was expecting 0 or 3 (becuz i thought it would oversmart and say there are no capital R in the word)
thats not really an issue with the model itsself, but rather an issue with the tokenizer (but I agree with the point that its not going to replace anyone anytime soon)
Youre hard coping. Will you be replaced by ai? No, but a senior engineer with a model like this will cause 5 juniors to loose their job. That is enough to recommend against going into computer science.
Remember :it's only programming that is at risk of automation, not software engineers or Data scientist or computer scientists. Just focus on the theory and how to prompt efficiently your task to nake sure the chatbots understand the solution YOU are proposing.
isn't software engineers are more like senior devs?
True but don’t forget security.
what about cybersecurity?
@@atomic5989 screw it
Software engineer IS programming bro
my dumbass self getting myself a first year cs and this show up...
Maybe it will be better by the time you graduate, but it's a pretty stupid thing to do right now if you are expecting to find a job.
@@richardwilliams8482 hes not gonna land a job if hes a first year
Got my first job in the first 6 months of my cs degree.. Trust me, the job market is insane right now, I know many senior devs that can't find a job
All depends mate Computer Science is like a what exactly do you want to do most the panic stuff I see are from people going into software engineering, personally I'm doing cyber security others I know are doing AI some are doing the more science side of it others the maths (ew) even people in these courses doing things like game design or web development the market just depends on what country your in, where folks are at and how good you are in your area for me over half my course either dropped or didnt make it to 2nd year you push through to the end and as long as you made full use of Uni events and got into a good sub area you will be fine... maybe... hopefully.. I have forgotten 75% of my first year stuff SOMEBODY HELP.
@@arandomguy8771 im thinking about doing cybersecurity. is it high paying and easy to get job>?
oik I will quit
Degrees, certs and all other accreditation is just for HR to pass your email onto a real human with a soul.
Once you get in a room with an engineer what matters is if you know your stuff, papers don't produce but they put you through the hiring manager's door.
Get the minimum accreditation, get a job, use internal resources to get more accreditation and ACTUALLY learn how to make things and fix things.
How can you call yourself an engineer if you never learned math beyond high school lmao
@@manofsteel9051engineering isn’t always about math lol. It’s about the way you think and problem solve.
I can remember back when this was the “hot” field to go into
ended shortly after covid, now it's basically an art or finance major
CS is stupid to get into, too many did it. It’s saturated
@@Beachboy6please somebody tell my mom that a CS degree isn’t the same as it used to be
For my peeps with no degree trying to break in. Here’s an idea that worked for me.
Go into the IT dept of a company. Doesn’t need to be as a developer.
While there. Code something you see a need for at the company.
For example you might be a customer service agent who notices that many times your colleagues go into teams to find old answers to things.
Build a little app that surfaces this automatically based on the contents of the ticket.
It’s very likely that if you develop something for the company that they think will help or save money. They’ll find SOME role for you to continue doing it.
TLDR:internal promotion
what job are you in now
Really cool advice you give there, very appreciated
@@StigmaCat lead developer for the department. Make integrations for their CRM systems.
Edit:it’s late. CRM
ty for the tip
You won’t be getting those IT jobs to begin with, just as you won’t with software engineering. Your best bet? Do tech (if you want) while knowing a trade. Don’t put all eggs on tech.
Soon there will be an AI for putting those fries in the bag
The “Find Girlfriend” LC make me chuckle
I'm studying CS for fun, I don't even give a shit about computers. Yet somehow, possibly because of daddy's connections, I will get a job at your company and get promoted ahead of you. Then you'll see me chatting and laughing with the CEO as you sit there and plan my death.
Okay buddy
Yet for most people most internships require degree seeking applicants 😭, and you'd need to have really good connections which requires social finesse which CS students definitely dont have
@@tsunami870 software engineering? more like social engineering
software engineer is also a very frustrating job, you will be stuck on a problem for multiple hours every day, not knowing what to do, just to google and copy paste some solution you yourself dont even understand. and what is the reward for finally solving a problem? making money for your company
The job market as a whole is cooked. I’m in finance, I’m getting into tech, mostly coding and cyber security. I have also a degree in history. I have no fucking job
Well if you have a degree in history then it makes sense why you can't get a tech job...
Just get your masters
Computer Science can also be known as Informatics, or "the science of processing data for storage and retrieval; information science."
This definition is more straightforward and really makes sense if you think about it 👆🤓
Not exactly, because you can compute things that do not "depend on information", so you need a more general term
@@gabrielbarrantes6946"depend on information"? do you mean data or input? what do you mean by this
@@Vysair For example, if you compute a large prime or any number of digits of pi, that is not exactly studying information, is more like how to compute faster/more efficiently. That's why is called computer science, because it focuses on how to compute stuff fast, and that covers anything from fetching /processing/delivering information to execute an stand alone algorithm that will produce no new information.
Abdul Bari cameo was something I was never expecting to see on this channel .
Computer Science is a fascinating field of study. So much valuable skills and information to be learned there. But, will it get you a job? No. You have to get you a job. No school will ever get you a job, just an internship
What the SE industry is seeing is pretty common from a historical perspective. During the Civil War, becoming a Doctor was often an apprenticeship and few if any specialties existed. Nowadays there are dozens of specialties, fierce competition and 12+ years of education for some. As technical professions progress, the barrier of entry is only going to get higher.
One of the biggest problems I had with my degree with CS was the class was about theory and they just dumped giant projects on us, with NONE OF THE PRACTICE that entails the theory itself.
So here I am scrambling to get something cobbled together, and it ran on duct tape and a prayer.
Computer science teaches you how to mathematically model problems and solve them computationally. Just that is of great great value ❤️
Cope
@@LifeisajokeER hahaha I really don’t care. I’m studying CS because I love it :p and a bonus is that I’ll actually learn the mechanics of AI :D
@@ai_outline The mechanics of AI:
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@@ai_outline dude then this definitely doesn't apply to you 😭
Learn an actual trade if you don't wanna end up broke
Super glad I studied Electrical engineering in college instead of CS. Back when I was getting my degree my thoughts were "If I want a software job I can get one with an EE degree. But if I can't find a software job, there are plenty of companies that will hire me to do hardware". And I was right. I'm currently working towards a masters in CS. But that's because I want to become an embedded firmware engineer (still mostly an EE dominated field).
So If you're on the fence, I would strongly encourage anyone to get either an EE or a Computer Engineering degree instead of CS. You can write code later in your career if you want to but if you can't find a job in software, you can always fall back on hardware. But be warned, EE/CE degrees are much more rigorous than CS! You will need to take math and physics classes that will look like hieroglyphics to your CS buddies.
My new character is a chill guy who doesn't give a fuck
Had to make a CS poem cuz of this video:
To student debt. or not to student debt.
that is the question of any generation.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The canola-blend oil and skin graft of the McDonald's fryer
Or to take arms against a sea of tutorial hell
And by opposing end the hustle
To coder-all-nighter,
No more; and by gaming to say "das cap, frfr"
I am a mechatronics engineer working in mobile software for the past decade, software and coding just a layer of my degree. Knowing about volts and newtons is something that gives me the upper hand at work sometimes, but is mostly something I do out of passion in my free time. I like how things turned out, I get turned on deep diving into complex computer science topics, and I also have to admit I struggle and put extra learning effort into it.
as a cs student id advice you not to(im tryna reduce the god damn competition)
If youre looking at social media you'll get a unrealistic view of the real world, especially reddit.
bro he used my new character in the thumbnail...😐 didnt even ask for permission
all that grind not worth to end up at a soul sucking company. I quit my software engineering job after 4 years because I started feeling like an NPC doing mundane tasks. I work at a bar now and I'm way more happy
Me when I want lower competition
@@osoulex4327 dont tell em
Lol the entitlement is off the charts. There are millions of people working mundane jobs for far less money than what software engineers make. I swear, tech workers are so out of touch with reality
I been interested in CS since like middle school before tech bros flooded the market so I'm sticking with it, I think the market is just stabilizing itself, I mean people were out here paying 20k for a bootcamp and getting out with a 200k job offer after 6 months, yeah... that's not sustainable..
5 years of computer science college... to become an Uber driver
story of my life
Now try to have a family and learning on your own... That's one of many problems of this industry, you're squeeze like a lemon by non-techies that thinks knowing Agile and knowing fuck-all on complex systems nor the industry to tell you what to do, then later on failed at leadership and make bad decisions but you're the one layoff anyway and them not being accountable for any of their mistakes. At some point, we need to have a discussion about the amount of leeches in our industry that ruined in from within.
1:54 Man, my degree is starting soon and I have already finished my IT diploma. Technically I will be having close to 8 years of experience when I finish my degree...
education != professional_experience
Education is not experience 😂😂😂 rethink that degree my dude. Go for engineering.
my next program will be to automatically apply for jobs so i actually have a chance
spray and pray doesn't work
The thumbnail goes hard
1:23 be like bro
The answer is unequivocally, "no." We use AI at work and sh*t is getting insane. They've dropped all entry level positions. Can't even fathom what it will look like in 2 years. Though AI will make owning your own business waaaaay easier, so that's a solid route to utilize it (my plan).
So what should we do then😊
@@zinxxo7202learn a trade (or do any other field of engineering)
@@zinxxo7202 just keep on keeping on. We’re close to being in the biggest revolution that humanity has ever seen. There will be jobs that we don’t even know exist yet, or I guess will turn into some weird utopian where people don’t work lol.
This was actually a great, original video which brought me new ideas
Thanks
Well I just had my first job at a tech company 2 months ago( was a cs student)...and find out my way of study is similar how you always give people advice.... really you're a hidden gem out there
There are lots of good jobs in tech. The problem I have with hiring is too many people have the wrong skills. The market can only handle so many HTML/JavaScript developers and the market is saturated. If you are going to work on the front end, specialize in something we need such as iOS or Android. Better yet, get a few years of experience on the backend with databases, storage, compute, and networking. And if you are going to say you work in AI, make sure you are actually working on AI and not an app that interfaces with somebody else's AI. The jobs are there, make sure you have the skills that match the jobs.
Just all in who you know. Someone i know got a batchelors in it and now makes 300k off the bat from some guy he did a commission for 2 years ago. Yes its luck. But its all down to who you know. Not what you know.
i want tell you. now times 2020s worst time we are living right now. i wish we are in 2000s and 2010s. Because covid ruined everythings.
covid was a distraction created by the chinese government to make them more powerful than ever. this is why no other countries can compete with their demands
well its the problem of governemnt of not promoting other courses as well instead of only single field for so long and now e facing this!
students dont even know they have so many paths to choose from but everyoe force them to take engineering!
engineering has a lot of distinctive pathways itself though
If you want to program, take software engineering or just take the individual computer course or just do a boot camp. Don’t need a computer science degree to code
good luck getting a job
@@o1-preview I said learning to code, not getting a job... And still no you don't need a computer science degree to get a job in code...
I always look at CS like this - learn it if you want to become a software engineer and more component programmer. Don't learn it if you want to just become the "average" coder/programmer. The job market is tough out there. And only getting tougher! The more skills that you have at your disposal, the better that you'll be when you apply for jobs. The U.K job market (and I guess the U.S job market too) is very competitive and job cuts are being made everywhere. Including the business that I work in currently.
The process for sure is longer and more painful. Even learning CS50 is pretty challenging. But what you gain from CS courses such as that and others will more likely help you to gain an edge in these competitive and challenging times.
NeetCode brought me here!
I'd love if you did a video on Software Engineering degrees, this is what I got because I had waaay too much math to cover to do a CS degree :)
Another question: why study CS when you could study Statistics/Math/Mechanical Engineering/Electrical Engineering and get acess to the same dev jobs and more?
because you'll spend 4 years learning more about the science behind computers?
cause why spend time and effort studying shit like mechanical engineering if I'm gonna throw everything I learned there out the window after I graduate so I can work in a different career
@@ramen7962 cuz that way you can work as a mech engineer and as a dev, instead of just as a dev.
@@o1-preview IT companies hire historians with masters and teach them how to code from scratch.
@@MartinMalmy no they don't, depends on where on earth you are talking about. right now, in the US there are too many programmers and not enough job positions. In other parts of the world, there are more jobs than programmers and they might do that.
You have a good sense of humor man 😂
Just do an IT degree. working with the hardware is always going to be in demand.
Im starting uni in a week. I was going to do cs but i chose computer games for the extact reason you said.
The computer science course was full of all that boring stuff i dont care about while the games course actually has you programming games and cool stuff.
Hopefully i made the right call
Edit: also i use ai to help me learn programming. Like if i want to add something to a game ill ask ai about it and it will introduce concepts i never knew before that I end up using on many different things later. But it sucks at actually coding and i doubt it will be a threat
Don't study computer science. Study Computer Engineering.
RUclips University lol
Remember. We need certification to sneak inside the company.
While I do get the point of these videos, they are also solely focused on the US and what happens inside said country only. My professors I'm Argentina don't tell me the market is impossible, on the contrary, they tell us that there is so much possibilities.
Rather than 4 straight years of CS, maybe 2 of CS a prerequisite for software engineering/network engineering/systems engineering/etc. that would be another 2 years to make it a bachelors degree. The foundation that CS brings is important to all aspects of IT work, but one does not need 4 straight years of it IMO. It really should be done alongside a more practical curriculum as a required elective or prerequisite to allow the student to be learning more practical stuff related to the area of IT they're trying to get into.
Rather than toss CS away and call it a useless money pit, I'd rather see it put to more practical use in the education system and let those that actually want to be computer scientists take the degrees that are more straight up CS.
what if i am just here for the money lmao
The Thumbnail was very relatable
And than there is me in Czech Reoublic where university is basicly for free hehe.
Just study elelctrical engineering and you can decide to study CS or not in grad shcool. The applied math in EE is more intense than CS so be well prepared and will benefit if you want to learn CS later.
You’re better off getting a degree in electrical engineering, even If you want to go into software development! You can teach yourself software development on the side, your resume will also stand out in a sea of CS drones😂 You can get a software engineering job with an EE degree, but a CS degree limits you to software engineering jobs only! Why limit your employment options?
AI doesn’t have to work. It just has to make your boss THINK it works. All aboard! The hype train is leaving the station.
It sounds useful for generating snippets,though. Better if the apprentice understands the spell being copied.
Gotta start learning to weld .Ai will replace programmers in like 5 years
Bro u scared me i am a fresher in cse 💀 but seeing the exponential growth of ai i feel cooked
If something increases you productivity it by definition replaces a percentage of those workers. If I can get 25% more work out of my workforce then I only need 75% of you.
Microsoft Excel and accounting software still requires an accountant or book keeper to use it, but it allows one book keeper to do what would have taken multiple book keepers.
AI as it gets better will slowly, and gradually make the computer programming and software engineering world more and more competitive, and wages will fall lower and lower.
The computer science and programming industry is flooded with excess labor. It really is not worth the effort anymore.
So answer is yes? Good
Naaah, that CaseOh cameo was wild!
I pursued CS because of the money, second year now and I am miserable
never fail to make me laugh but also tell me the point... keep it up
It depends. You only want to code to get a good job and make money? Then no
You wanna learn how to code cause you like it and you wanna and surround yourself with like minded people? Then yes (if you can afford it)
I should've waited til quarantine was over to graduate and get these internship and hackathon opportunities
job market during the pandemic was much easier compared to now. you could still participate on hackathons and ctfs opportunities online. now a days, it doesn't matter if you did interships or hackathons..
I have No Problems at a C/C++ Developer. If you learn an easy language thats Not really good Just because its easy its your own fault
In 2024: YOU don't study computers, computers study YOU!
My current situation is thumbnail become lazy and I can't focus and district with food,movies, youtube,etc
Not me watching this in my second month of studying CS thinking that I would learn how to make a game eventually :D
I am going into a trade so I will be fine for at least 20 to 30 years till robot's can can do hvac witch they can’t do
The only smart person here, I swear people are just blinded by this illusion that degrees will get you awesome paying jobs, it's pathetic.
The real answer is just stick with it when it's bad until it becomes good again jobs might not be as easy as when it was covid Era but it'll get better eventually
For now just put the fries in the bag until then 😂
dude, the copter guy caught me off guard
Cool, just started cs, bout to be a happy meal engineer
Watching this as a UX designer 😂, oh btw would learning CS help me with my freelance UX design career?
probably not, getting better at UX and soft skills will help.
A car won't take your job, but a horse driving a car will" (AI)
I would actually give Charlie a shot.
you would not, and if you did, you'd quickly learn code quality matters and not repeat the same mistake.
Me watching Abdul Bari's tutorials 30 mins before appearing for Design and Analysis of Algorithms exam
We'll never know 😔
i agree about learning software engineer late
4 days ago i took admission in top IT College
The fee there is like double compared to other college now I'm regretting
What if I’m studying on a major in business degree concentration in Information Systems and Decision Science
Im studying a CS degree. The course starts in 3 days.
I dropped out of college because Computer Science was not my thing and I decided to pursue blue collar work and civil service instead
I’m a nursing student right now but this semester I will switch my major into SWE
terrible idea. stick to nursing if you arent extremely passionate about programming.
I wouldn't do that. The Medical field is much much better than our field.
I quit my CS major in University when i was a 1st year and changed my major to being an English teacher. Now i kinda regret what i have done since i miss Maths and complex-problem-solving subjects so much. And now I am even told that i need to stick to my career as a teacher, though every day passing by is so meaningless to me. I think i have betrayed myself and my love for maths. I acted like an idiot coward fearing that I'd have no competitiveness for jobs or whatever it is related to passion (bc i wasn't sure if i was really into computers or not (almost failed Introductory to IT course)). Should I come back the old way and maybe I can try AI this time, or choose the path of being a teacher cause it's way safer and easier to get money? What if i had ruined my life?
Thank you for this video it was really helpful. However, I was thinking about going down the pathway of becoming a machine learning engineer because I am obsessed with AI and I have no clue if I should go to uni and study or just do an apprenticeship. If I did make the decision to go to uni, what should I study?
Its far too late, I'm too deep at this point. The die is already cast.
Please make a video on computer Engineering too please
Bro, turn down the ads. This is insane.
Am I the only CS student who wants to learn assembly out there and doesn't care to be a software engineer but more like a data scientist, cyber security, or more like robotics person. I really would like to build robots to take over jobs and be evil hehe. But no truly I came to learn theoretical and to be honest i find software engineers overrate and over saturated what job besides that should i pick with CS also FYI I have no debt coming from my degree I am fully paying it myself.
I wouldn't be surprised if a McDonald's says to a college graduate in tech science I'm sorry you're overqualified
What is my new character doing here?