I was 6 years old when this happened. We lived within couple km of the square. I remember trying to fall asleep in my grandma’s lap as sounds of what I thought were fire works going off in the distance.
This is an exceptionally interesting video and I hope it will get wide spread distribution in the United States Wouldn't it be great if the young people of China could have access to it! My compliments to the author - first rate work by Chinoy Eldon Bernstein
The students were crying out for democracy, but the Chinese Communist Party government refused democracy and the students were slaughtered. I was a high school student, so I was watching the TV and cheering for the students. We sincerely pray for the unfortunate consequences of these students.。。。japan
What would Japan know about democracy? You’ve been ruled by the same right-wing regressive party for nearly half a century. Ethnic minorities, the unemployed and even university students are treated like second-class citizens. And your last Prime Minister was on the payroll of a destructive South Korean religious cult. Japan is a failed gerontocracy like Italy, just slightly less loud.
Where is the interview of the leader of the protestors with CNN the day before the crackdown happened? The one where she proclaimed that this was her revolution, that she was suffering because she had to hide the fact that she wanted this to be a bloodbath, and as been trying hard to push it to that degree, while calling anyone trying to diffuse the situation a traitor. The interview where she also said she won't die for this revolution, and will leave before the crackdown happens because she despised the Chinese people and they don't deserve her giving up her life. Didn't fit the narrative of these organizers being democracy heroes too well?
You won't see as well the massacre of unarmed soldiers, burned to death hanging from the front of burned buses. This would not fit either the narrative of these organizers. Media are a weapon.
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff Freedom of not dying from a flue, freedom of not starving on the street, freedom of having a roof to sleep under, freedom of having free education until college, freedom to move inside the country without fearing to meet a lunatic with a gun, freedom for kids and women to walk at night without been harassed, freedom of having leaders that need to deliver for the people instead of the riches, the list goes on. You don't care about the Chinese, you don't care about China, you are just told that China needs to be a democracy so that the US can interfere as it pleased as they did for South Korea and Japan.
@@wiiistful7499 Yes, liberal leadership placed sick people in nursing homes leading to inflated death tolls from COVID. Numbers were also inflated as there was financial incentive to report every death possible as a COVID death. Roughly 50% of Chinese people do not have access to running water or electricity. Such freedom indeed. Freedom to have free education until college? Really? Chinese don’t pay taxes? Yeah, no guns. There’s never been mass killings with knives though. China has a much easier time with crime though because the country lacks any type of racial diversity and imprisons people in “re-education camps” the government considers “problematic.” It must be lovely being a Uighur Muslim in China, right? How does the state view anyone practicing religion publicly, for that matter? Don’t get me started on pollution, selfishness, and general disgusting behavior. China pollutes on levels that are criminal. Chinese people are like locusts - practicing no conservation and eating ANYTHING they can get their hands on. Personal hygiene? There is none, it’s revolting watching the people snot on the street, wipe their nose with their hands, and go about their business. You don’t have to fear lunatics with a gun, but in China you absolutely have to fear your child being snatched up for the slave trade or a woman being taken for the sex trade. Being forced to beg on behalf of the millions of homeless or drugged into a stupor to be raped for money? Yeah, China’s lovely all right. Leaders that deliver to the people? 🤣🤣🤣 Again, roughly 50% of China live without running water and electricity. I care as much for the Chinese as anyone should care for Nazis of 1940 Germany. I don’t care if China is a democracy. China is an abomination that engages in unparalleled human rights abuses, fraud, currency manipulation, environmental neglect, waste, etc. China is an example for the world of what NOT to do. It, and its people, should be studied for two reasons only - to laugh at or to learn how not to behave. Shill for China all you want. Either you’ve never been there, or you are Chinese because everything you posted is a load of shit. Which is it?
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff 50% Where do you get your number from? Chinese do pay taxes, as does Americans, what's your point? No there are never been mass killings with knives all over the country, only in Xinjiang, say thank the US for sending the CIA since the 70' in Afghanistan to train and fund terrorists. Really China lack racial diversity? China got 54 different ethnic groups, did you take a look at all of them? They all look alike to you? Sure instead of stopping mass killings by putting in re-education centers just do like in Europe or in America, let them walk around and eventually kill people. Freedom to stay alive is less important than individual freedom of crazy people? Yeah, China loves very much Uighurs and all minorities for the matter, that's why the one-child policy doesn't apply to minorities to ensure their culture will live on. China hates so much Uighurs that their population has doubled in 30 years. China hates so much minorities that they need to put in China's constitution that the communist party needs to protect the minorities, their cultures. China has all kinds of religious buildings all over the country, in fact, China got more than 24,300 in Xinjiang only in 2013, whereas in the US, there is 2,106 in 2010. So unless since then the US has built thousands of them, the country's oppression religion is not China. Pollution? I guess you don't want to talk about the 200 years of free pollution coming from America and Europe then. Or even that the cO2 emission per capita pushes the US in pole position with 3 times more pollution than China. You are just a stupid Sinophone who will always find something to say on China, turning a blind eye to your own issue that needs as much attention if not more. You just said you don't care about Chinese, so why care about human rights in China, since pretty much everyone living in China is Chinese. God, your brain is malformed. I'm not a Chinese, and I have lived in China, that's why I will always push back narrative such as your. And you know what it's too late for you my friend. YOu are on the looser side, so keep acting like one, it doesn't matter, it's too late to stop China.
You hear that you _thousands of unarmed and naive losers killed by my own government?_ You have to be wise, never question authority and do as you are told. And while you are doing that remember to buy contraband milk from Hong Kong and make sure your children get vaccinated in Canada.
Funny how they cut off the tank man video and wouldn't show the whole event, where he actually climbed up the tank talked to the soldiers inside the tank, trying to instigate them to shoot him, and then being forcibly removed by by-standers.
@@wedonteatbears Okay, Raytheon funded troll. Do you like to hear yourself talk so much that you just want to blab away without any substance to contribute? Or is the lack of substance just your regular state of being?
Great video. The bit right at the end about the slight controversy regarding the validity of referring to it as ‘Tiananmen Square massacre’ , owing to the fact most, if not all of the killings actually took place in the streets adjacent to the square rather than the square itself, is interesting. While I certainly understand the guy’s point at 1:26:13 that it’s important to get the facts absolutely right, but can he really not see that this kind of pedantry over the name creates a perfect loophole for the Chinese government to use in their attemptsto try and cover the whole thing up, claiming things like “the PLA didn’t kill anyone in the square that night, the Tiananmen Square massacre is all just western propaganda” (exactly as the previous lady points out). Ultimately perpetuating a far bigger untruth that no massacre occurred in Beijing that night at all.
I'm not sure where you get your info from, but the government in China absolutely isn't pushing "nothing happened in Tiananmen Square" People in China absolutely knew that many people died on 4th June 1989 The difference between you and them, however, is that to your knowledge "pro democracy protestors" were massacred That is not the complete picture Again, as I said I have no idea where you're getting your information from, but you probably have no idea that Chinese soldiers were initially unarmed, sent in for crowd control work, and generally got along very well with the crowd It wasn't until the crowd turned unruly, killing unarmed soldiers and setting fire to their vehicles, that armed soldiers were finally sent in to restore peace Even then, most soldiers were only armed with non lethal weapons like batons And when things escalated and the shooting finally started, there were casualties on BOTH sides But of course you wouldn't know any of this, you wouldn't know that many Chinese soldiers lost their lives too in trying to restore peace
@@hiyukelavie2396 They don’t care. Americans only believe the propaganda their government feeds them. Ironic that they accuse our nations of all that they are guilty of-accusations in a mirror. They can’t show any successes in nations like China or else the American people might start to get ideas as they look around at the failed state their country has become over the last decade or more. Poverty in New York and Los Angeles is now on par with Republican states. People dying on the streets. Everything they use to portray nations they dislike portrays the reality of the US today.
how surreal must it have been for the journalists to go back to the Square a few days after the massacre with military officials saying that no killings had occurred in Beijing. I wonder if any of these journalists said "well, sir, I saw people killed by the military with my own eyes..."
Yes, I was there walking around doing nothing and hoping for some Americans to give us some money. Many people got some but I weren’t lucky enough so I turned up almost every day for months.
Killing people is not right. But what if the crash of a government authority leads to a civil war and chaos with more killings, who is going to take this responsibility ? !
@@jaythompson5102 Do you know how many unarmed soldiers the protesters murdered themselves? Obviously you do not. Check this for a bit of badly needed balance. medium.com/@leohezhao/notes-for-30th-anniversary-of-tiananmen-incident-f098ef6efbc2
Im ashamed because as a chinese person this type of action has never been acceptable...the fact that we choose to swipe this event under the rug rather than remembering and learning from it is beyond me...No country is perfect but to forcibly shove this way of not speaking about is not the chinese way...all chinese need to be ashamed...im sorry
How come whenever there is American media and journalist working closely with US military attaché at Bejing Embassy there is Chinese students protesting against their own Chinese Communist party Government. The same Hong Kong students protesting against their own Communist party Government after British handover of Hong Kong to mainland Chinese Communist party Government in 1998 was all peaceful until the American journalists and media probably in close contact with US military attaché at Hong Kong embassy recently is another failed attempts by pro democracy US foreign interventions in China internal affairs. US Government's intervention to force democracy at the point of a gun has failed in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq as well so if a foreign country wanted democracy it will be local community initiatives rather than foreign countries such US military intervention imposing democracy even with conflict and bloodshed this was a failure in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq not forgetting Cuba and others etc.
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff That time USA want to abolish slavery, something called "American Civil War" happened and the death toll reach 650.000+ deaths after a long 4 years war. Yeah, seems pretty nice and less bloody right?
@@yuvensiuslie3798 Seems very nice Americans were willing to die by the hundreds of thousands to end slavery. That said, the South was not challenging the North for more freedom for slaves. It’s also important to note various historians agree the the reason for the Civil War was based on keeping the country unified (instead of a fractured nation - North and South) Are you saying you’d prefer slavery still be legal? Regardless, this is a very poor comparison and doesn’t make sense.
@@yuvensiuslie3798 “The USA wanted to abolish slavery” In your own words, you explicitly stated the USA fought to EXPAND freedoms for individuals (slaves). You provided an example that is literally the exact opposite of what I stated.
@@yuvensiuslie3798 Try again when China actually goes to war with itself, sacrificing hundreds of thousands of its own people, to provide freedom and ending the Uighur concentration camps. Until then, piss off with your nonsensical propaganda.
troops opened fire because the protesters were killing the soldiers burning them alive. the only shooting happened around Muxidi 4 km west of the square, and according to wikileak's leaked US classified diplomatic cable, there were not a single shot fired in the vicinity of the square. use some common sense look at the photos of Changan street on the mourning of 5th of June, what do you see? columns of burnt out MILITARY trucks buses and APC. they were torched before any troops had opened fire. it is apparent that by the 4th of june this was no longer a protest, but a violent revolt that would receive similar treatment in any country. see how far you'll get in the US by killing some soldiers because of a political disagreement with the government. and lets see if the angelic Americans would open fire or not. this is again another one of these propaganda hit pieces of the west aimed to use the violent revolt of june 4th to topple China.
The troops shot and killed students and citizens first. Thousands of witness and victims can prove that. It's interesting that government-backed internet trolls like you don't care about the fact that a "people's government" send its troops to kill its own people. May crack down like Tiananmen massacre happen to you one day when you seek justice or equality (you probably never will)
if the troops opened fire first, wouldnt you think there were more deaths? soldiers were reluctant to use force, and they fired only when necessary, thats why there werent more deaths, otherwise the protesters wouldnt stand a chance against machine guns and tanks. think with your brain before accusing someone of lying.
I think 2000+ death is enough. No one really knows how many people died, but the hospitals were packed and civilian's corpses lay all over the street. It wasn't a battle zone and troops won't shoot anything that moves. Just thinking that troops opened fire on unarmed civilians is terrifying enough.
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
I was 6 years old when this happened. We lived within couple km of the square. I remember trying to fall asleep in my grandma’s lap as sounds of what I thought were fire works going off in the distance.
Saw this at the FCC in Hong Kong this evening with Mike Chinoy. Fabulous documentary. Thank you to all who make this series possible.
i am chinese, lived in both china and USA and Canada. this documentary is heavily bias.
It could all have been avoided if the students had listen to Zhao Ziyang on that night...
This is an exceptionally interesting video and I hope it will get wide spread distribution in the United States
Wouldn't it be great if the young people of China could have access to it!
My compliments to the author - first rate work by Chinoy
Eldon Bernstein
+TheTraveler maybe I did not watch it carefully, but I do not see anywhere they agreed that massacre was happened in the square...
They know what really happened. the protest got hijacked by foreign power, hoping for a bloodshed
@@yongxiaofeng wu mao
@@user-it8gk3ke7h gong fro, wu mao
Isn't that ironic. You have access to all information without having to use a VPN. Yet you fall for this obvious propaganda.
if you are Chinese, pls search "63行动”，you will get more footages about the whole story.
Time magazine had some great photos of this tragedy too.
Great photos that were missing one key piece of information. Namely the actual massacre.
Heck of a job 👍 Mike. Good documentary films.
The students were crying out for democracy, but the Chinese Communist Party government refused democracy and the students were slaughtered. I was a high school student, so I was watching the TV and cheering for the students. We sincerely pray for the unfortunate consequences of these students.。。。japan
What would Japan know about democracy? You’ve been ruled by the same right-wing regressive party for nearly half a century. Ethnic minorities, the unemployed and even university students are treated like second-class citizens. And your last Prime Minister was on the payroll of a destructive South Korean religious cult. Japan is a failed gerontocracy like Italy, just slightly less loud.
Where is the interview of the leader of the protestors with CNN the day before the crackdown happened? The one where she proclaimed that this was her revolution, that she was suffering because she had to hide the fact that she wanted this to be a bloodbath, and as been trying hard to push it to that degree, while calling anyone trying to diffuse the situation a traitor. The interview where she also said she won't die for this revolution, and will leave before the crackdown happens because she despised the Chinese people and they don't deserve her giving up her life. Didn't fit the narrative of these organizers being democracy heroes too well?
You won't see as well the massacre of unarmed soldiers, burned to death hanging from the front of burned buses. This would not fit either the narrative of these organizers. Media are a weapon.
Right? The poor Chinese government. All the freedoms that it grants its people and this was how they repaid the CCP? I am shocked.
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff Freedom of not dying from a flue, freedom of not starving on the street, freedom of having a roof to sleep under, freedom of having free education until college, freedom to move inside the country without fearing to meet a lunatic with a gun, freedom for kids and women to walk at night without been harassed, freedom of having leaders that need to deliver for the people instead of the riches, the list goes on.
You don't care about the Chinese, you don't care about China, you are just told that China needs to be a democracy so that the US can interfere as it pleased as they did for South Korea and Japan.
@@wiiistful7499
Yes, liberal leadership placed sick people in nursing homes leading to inflated death tolls from COVID. Numbers were also inflated as there was financial incentive to report every death possible as a COVID death.
Roughly 50% of Chinese people do not have access to running water or electricity. Such freedom indeed.
Freedom to have free education until college? Really? Chinese don’t pay taxes?
Yeah, no guns. There’s never been mass killings with knives though. China has a much easier time with crime though because the country lacks any type of racial diversity and imprisons people in “re-education camps” the government considers “problematic.” It must be lovely being a Uighur Muslim in China, right? How does the state view anyone practicing religion publicly, for that matter?
Don’t get me started on pollution, selfishness, and general disgusting behavior. China pollutes on levels that are criminal. Chinese people are like locusts - practicing no conservation and eating ANYTHING they can get their hands on. Personal hygiene? There is none, it’s revolting watching the people snot on the street, wipe their nose with their hands, and go about their business.
You don’t have to fear lunatics with a gun, but in China you absolutely have to fear your child being snatched up for the slave trade or a woman being taken for the sex trade. Being forced to beg on behalf of the millions of homeless or drugged into a stupor to be raped for money? Yeah, China’s lovely all right.
Leaders that deliver to the people? 🤣🤣🤣
Again, roughly 50% of China live without running water and electricity.
I care as much for the Chinese as anyone should care for Nazis of 1940 Germany. I don’t care if China is a democracy. China is an abomination that engages in unparalleled human rights abuses, fraud, currency manipulation, environmental neglect, waste, etc. China is an example for the world of what NOT to do. It, and its people, should be studied for two reasons only - to laugh at or to learn how not to behave.
Shill for China all you want. Either you’ve never been there, or you are Chinese because everything you posted is a load of shit.
Which is it?
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff 50% Where do you get your number from?
Chinese do pay taxes, as does Americans, what's your point?
No there are never been mass killings with knives all over the country, only in Xinjiang, say thank the US for sending the CIA since the 70' in Afghanistan to train and fund terrorists.
Really China lack racial diversity? China got 54 different ethnic groups, did you take a look at all of them? They all look alike to you?
Sure instead of stopping mass killings by putting in re-education centers just do like in Europe or in America, let them walk around and eventually kill people. Freedom to stay alive is less important than individual freedom of crazy people? Yeah, China loves very much Uighurs and all minorities for the matter, that's why the one-child policy doesn't apply to minorities to ensure their culture will live on. China hates so much Uighurs that their population has doubled in 30 years. China hates so much minorities that they need to put in China's constitution that the communist party needs to protect the minorities, their cultures. China has all kinds of religious buildings all over the country, in fact, China got more than 24,300 in Xinjiang only in 2013, whereas in the US, there is 2,106 in 2010. So unless since then the US has built thousands of them, the country's oppression religion is not China.
Pollution? I guess you don't want to talk about the 200 years of free pollution coming from America and Europe then. Or even that the cO2 emission per capita pushes the US in pole position with 3 times more pollution than China. You are just a stupid Sinophone who will always find something to say on China, turning a blind eye to your own issue that needs as much attention if not more.
You just said you don't care about Chinese, so why care about human rights in China, since pretty much everyone living in China is Chinese. God, your brain is malformed.
I'm not a Chinese, and I have lived in China, that's why I will always push back narrative such as your.
And you know what it's too late for you my friend. YOu are on the looser side, so keep acting like one, it doesn't matter, it's too late to stop China.
This was amazing. Great channel great production
too young too simple, sometimes naive
You hear that you _thousands of unarmed and naive losers killed by my own government?_ You have to be wise, never question authority and do as you are told. And while you are doing that remember to buy contraband milk from Hong Kong and make sure your children get vaccinated in Canada.
That’s still a massacre dude. You are sloppy.
Funny how they cut off the tank man video and wouldn't show the whole event, where he actually climbed up the tank talked to the soldiers inside the tank, trying to instigate them to shoot him, and then being forcibly removed by by-standers.
Good comment wumao. Here are your twenty cents cuz we cut the funding.
@@wedonteatbears Okay, Raytheon funded troll. Do you like to hear yourself talk so much that you just want to blab away without any substance to contribute? Or is the lack of substance just your regular state of being?
@@wedonteatbears 令堂去世了？
Free Hong Kong.
@@wedonteatbears So you don't disagree with him?
我們需要中文字幕，謝謝
my birthday is june 4th, and like Tiananmen Square, it was just an incident
Great video. The bit right at the end about the slight controversy regarding the validity of referring to it as ‘Tiananmen Square massacre’ , owing to the fact most, if not all of the killings actually took place in the streets adjacent to the square rather than the square itself, is interesting. While I certainly understand the guy’s point at 1:26:13 that it’s important to get the facts absolutely right, but can he really not see that this kind of pedantry over the name creates a perfect loophole for the Chinese government to use in their attemptsto try and cover the whole thing up, claiming things like “the PLA didn’t kill anyone in the square that night, the Tiananmen Square massacre is all just western propaganda” (exactly as the previous lady points out). Ultimately perpetuating a far bigger untruth that no massacre occurred in Beijing that night at all.
I'm not sure where you get your info from, but the government in China absolutely isn't pushing "nothing happened in Tiananmen Square"
People in China absolutely knew that many people died on 4th June 1989
The difference between you and them, however, is that to your knowledge "pro democracy protestors" were massacred
That is not the complete picture
Again, as I said I have no idea where you're getting your information from, but you probably have no idea that Chinese soldiers were initially unarmed, sent in for crowd control work, and generally got along very well with the crowd
It wasn't until the crowd turned unruly, killing unarmed soldiers and setting fire to their vehicles, that armed soldiers were finally sent in to restore peace
Even then, most soldiers were only armed with non lethal weapons like batons
And when things escalated and the shooting finally started, there were casualties on BOTH sides
But of course you wouldn't know any of this, you wouldn't know that many Chinese soldiers lost their lives too in trying to restore peace
@@hiyukelavie2396 They don’t care. Americans only believe the propaganda their government feeds them. Ironic that they accuse our nations of all that they are guilty of-accusations in a mirror. They can’t show any successes in nations like China or else the American people might start to get ideas as they look around at the failed state their country has become over the last decade or more. Poverty in New York and Los Angeles is now on par with Republican states. People dying on the streets. Everything they use to portray nations they dislike portrays the reality of the US today.
Brave journalist and good content.
I'm gathering information from various media eastern and western give me better picture of the whole story. 👍
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54:00 "A man was on fire and someone was trying to put him out. I was waiting on my camera flash to be ready so I could take a picture."
the very first color revolution failed.
how surreal must it have been for the journalists to go back to the Square a few days after the massacre with military officials saying that no killings had occurred in Beijing. I wonder if any of these journalists said "well, sir, I saw people killed by the military with my own eyes..."
The massacre didn't happen dude. A Spanish film crew did go back, and that's exactly what they said!
@@TheTraveler2222 ...shut the fuck up.
Just stop it.
I read your other comments...so please shut the fuck up.
Yes, I was there walking around doing nothing and hoping for some Americans to give us some money. Many people got some but I weren’t lucky enough so I turned up almost every day for months.
They actually start to believe their own lies and 'fake news'.
The fact that 6/5 was the silent death of freedom is the bigger story which continues until today. Xi is evil.
Killing people is not right. But what if the crash of a government authority leads to a civil war and chaos with more killings, who is going to take this responsibility ? !
Sounds like a great excuse to keep on murdering people.
@@jaythompson5102 Do you know how many unarmed soldiers the protesters murdered themselves? Obviously you do not. Check this for a bit of badly needed balance. medium.com/@leohezhao/notes-for-30th-anniversary-of-tiananmen-incident-f098ef6efbc2
50 cent commenter.
We will watch, eat popcorn and LAUGH AT YOUR PEOPLE.
搞一个摸仿纽约自由女神的雕像完全是自取其辱！知道为什么吗？1882年美国国会通过”排华法”（Chinese Exlusion Act），知道这个法想干什么吗？就是不准中国人移民！纽约自由女神的雕像是 1884年建成的。干什么的？欢迎移民来美国。讽刺吗？
Im ashamed because as a chinese person this type of action has never been acceptable...the fact that we choose to swipe this event under the rug rather than remembering and learning from it is beyond me...No country is perfect but to forcibly shove this way of not speaking about is not the chinese way...all chinese need to be ashamed...im sorry
别代表我...
Who do you think the F are you to represent all the Chinese?
你可以归西了
No the CCP should be ashamed especially the 27th.
remember
most of what's americans support, then you object it is the right option.
How come whenever there is American media and journalist working closely with US military attaché at Bejing Embassy there is Chinese students protesting against their own Chinese Communist party Government.
The same Hong Kong students protesting against their own Communist party Government after British handover of Hong Kong to mainland Chinese Communist party Government in 1998 was all peaceful until the American journalists and media probably in close contact with US military attaché at Hong Kong embassy recently is another failed attempts by pro democracy US foreign interventions in China internal affairs.
US Government's intervention to force democracy at the point of a gun has failed in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq as well so if a foreign country wanted democracy it will be local community initiatives rather than foreign countries such US military intervention imposing democracy even with conflict and bloodshed this was a failure in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq not forgetting Cuba and others etc.
Nicely and comprehensively said 👍👍👍👍
Free Hong Kong and Taiwan
@Byrnzie400 yeah good point. Hope it stays that way
Yes, free HK and Taipei from US imperialism!
@@VincentIrkallaOfficial oh stfu. Your stupidity shouldn’t be allowed on a public platform as it’s as dangerous to the public health as a plague.
always pretend to care about other nation's human rights, but never process their own human rights. that's the US did and will do.
Does the USA have an equivalent point in history where an estimated 10,000 people were killed by the government for challenging it for more freedom?
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff That time USA want to abolish slavery, something called "American Civil War" happened and the death toll reach 650.000+ deaths after a long 4 years war.
Yeah, seems pretty nice and less bloody right?
@@yuvensiuslie3798 Seems very nice Americans were willing to die by the hundreds of thousands to end slavery.
That said, the South was not challenging the North for more freedom for slaves. It’s also important to note various historians agree the the reason for the Civil War was based on keeping the country unified (instead of a fractured nation - North and South)
Are you saying you’d prefer slavery still be legal?
Regardless, this is a very poor comparison and doesn’t make sense.
@@yuvensiuslie3798 “The USA wanted to abolish slavery”
In your own words, you explicitly stated the USA fought to EXPAND freedoms for individuals (slaves). You provided an example that is literally the exact opposite of what I stated.
@@yuvensiuslie3798 Try again when China actually goes to war with itself, sacrificing hundreds of thousands of its own people, to provide freedom and ending the Uighur concentration camps. Until then, piss off with your nonsensical propaganda.
Democracy and freedom do not mean that anyone can behave whatever you want without following the laws and regulations of a nation's.
It means the government fears the people, not the other way around.
Because of people like you and your ideas humanity will suffer.
@@warken7284 No joy without pain.
Lovely
哪个国家没有黑历史呢
只有这里不能讲
US troops/MP also cracked down WWI veterans protesting against their own govt...
Chengjiang HU who censors their internet?
Co - evil spiritual evil spiritual cohabitation 4 June 1989 Tiananmen Great slaughter slaughtered 10454 people commoner.
korea1919.03.01->china2019.03.01
当时所有人都没有预备，应该说那个时候的中国还没有准备好，时机不对，包括邓和赵都没有准备好，被李鹏给做了。学生也没有准备好，米国也没有准备好。如果事情发生在今天，应该不会是这个结局，可怜的是好多人都几乎白白的牺牲了。这个事情成功的几率相当小，而且当时被压下去了，现在的习上台手段那是相当的相似，中国要走出来真不容易，前些年提的和平演变，估计只有等我等80后都退休了才能有些改变了。
Yan Huang 我看着好迷茫，到底发生了什么？国内为什么对这件事讳莫如深？
夏小钧 这场运动初衷是反腐败，但后来学生领头人胃口越来越大，要直接改变体制。同时，美国佬支持这些领头人，CIA又支持一些人去搞乱,杀士兵（士兵刚开始接到命令，不能还击）。最终，共产党在64最后一天下令“撤出天安门”（西班牙记者拍摄的是，学生并没有被屠杀，而是有秩序的撤离），CNN和BBC在这件事上有夸大其词，说谎。 六四死了一些人，但并没有大规模屠杀。如果当时这些愣头青的学生领头人成功，那中国将是今天的中东，无止境的灾难
Zq Li 请问有关于这些的纪录片吗，我想看一看
Itchy Onion 有啊，被油管限制了流量。你搜63行动。
troops opened fire because the protesters were killing the soldiers burning them alive. the only shooting happened around Muxidi 4 km west of the square, and according to wikileak's leaked US classified diplomatic cable, there were not a single shot fired in the vicinity of the square.
use some common sense look at the photos of Changan street on the mourning of 5th of June, what do you see? columns of burnt out MILITARY trucks buses and APC. they were torched before any troops had opened fire.
it is apparent that by the 4th of june this was no longer a protest, but a violent revolt that would receive similar treatment in any country. see how far you'll get in the US by killing some soldiers because of a political disagreement with the government. and lets see if the angelic Americans would open fire or not.
this is again another one of these propaganda hit pieces of the west aimed to use the violent revolt of june 4th to topple China.
The troops shot and killed students and citizens first. Thousands of witness and victims can prove that. It's interesting that government-backed internet trolls like you don't care about the fact that a "people's government" send its troops to kill its own people. May crack down like Tiananmen massacre happen to you one day when you seek justice or equality (you probably never will)
if the troops opened fire first, wouldnt you think there were more deaths? soldiers were reluctant to use force, and they fired only when necessary, thats why there werent more deaths, otherwise the protesters wouldnt stand a chance against machine guns and tanks. think with your brain before accusing someone of lying.
I think 2000+ death is enough. No one really knows how many people died, but the hospitals were packed and civilian's corpses lay all over the street. It wasn't a battle zone and troops won't shoot anything that moves. Just thinking that troops opened fire on unarmed civilians is terrifying enough.
I see someone fell for the CCP's propaganda campaign & is now sadly, part of it.
Of coz the communist have to give you a "good" reason ! Under CCP, everything bad things that happened were other's people "faults".
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
Then God is really into rejecting his on followers right now.
Then I'm sure god appointed evil dictators as well. That makes him evil as well you know.
Said like a good, indoctrinated authoritarian but there's just one problem: the Communist Party of China is atheist.
So Stalin and Mao were appointed by God, according to your logic? Awesome.
he he，
这么多年我想看坦克碾人的视频，结果却只有坦克躲人。
“坦克躲人”的视频，显示出TG的容忍和极大耐心。
难道还有其他国家的军车能做到这点吗？
中国是禁枪的。几万军人进入天安门广场，却发生了坦克装甲车被烧毁、解放军被烧死的事件。
这说明什么？
只能证明中国军人是非常容忍的。
而暴徒残忍毫无人性，而且陷害政府和无辜学生。
这事件还教育国人：任何攻击解放军的人，必是居心叵测，不可原谅。
很失望墙外一游 你主子这么伟光正屏蔽什么信息啊，让大家一起谴责暴徒啊？坦克没压人方政玩你妈玩残疾的？
@@leeclock4911 难道youtub屏蔽了信息？不会吧。
我没看到过坦克压人的视频。方政自诉被坦克压了腿，但我难以根据口述就确定其前因后果。
比如在“坦克躲人”视频中，该老兄竟然在坦克启动时又突然再次窜到坦克前面去。这很可能造成被碾压。所以这种碰瓷造成的事故，应该由碰瓷者负全部责任。
很失望墙外一游 你去搜索一下六四血腥照片就可以看到被压的尸体，南京大屠杀是中国军民对要建设大东亚共荣圈的皇军碰瓷反抗造成的事故，应该由碰瓷者负责
@@leeclock4911 搜过了，照片难以反映事件的缘由。
汽车碰瓷事件很多的。大多数由于司机没有证据难以辩白，只能赔钱了事。
南京大屠杀不是碰瓷。
总之，要凭证据说话。
@@leeclock4911 你觉着“只有”，那是你的偏见。
当时多国媒体在北京，他们的视频也可以作为证据。
但是，各国媒体都没有坦克压人的视频，而只有这个“坦克躲人”视频。
这个“坦克躲人”视频，反映出了解放军的耐心。
The students must be used by some western countries
Now they're used in Hong Kong