Never understood why more brands don't use sweeping quartz more often. A lot of ppl shy away from quartz bc they don't like how the ticking looks. Sweeping quartz takes care of that, and annoying servicing costs associate with automatic watches.
@@JustOneMoreWatchI agree with you. I don’t care about the sweep at all. I get tired of resetting the time with my mechanicals. So I wear a CWC Sea Falcon and a Christopher Ward Valour for nearly everything now, both quartzes and neither of these sacrifice battery life for the visual sweep.
As a diehard quartz devotee, I REEEAAALLLY wish they would sweep. Especially mega-smooth a la Precisionist. Or at least like Seiko mechaquartz. I'll grudgingly deal with the 1-tick per second thing, if I must, for Eco-Drive. I'm DYING for the day of the Eco-Drive Precisionist Perpetual Calendar!!! If I had a magic wand, I'd add GPS calibration a la Citizen Satellite Wave.
@@JustOneMoreWatchfor me (as part of my 80+ watch collection including quartz, mecha-quartz, mechanical and automatic) the benefit of quartz, and in particular mecha-quartz, is about a few things 1) price - often a look/style for less, 2) grab and go versatility and 3) mecha-quartz eliminates the annoyance of many quartz watch hands missing the markers. As a 4th) on the side I do like the smooth sweep better than that of a plain quartz. To actually accurately time something I am using something else besides a watch, plus the downside of battery life is the cost when you have to replace multiple watch batteries at once.
"Bought 300 last year." Sneaky way to hint a quartz Erebus is on the way. Since you bought a few, quick question. Does ETA still reserve thermo compensation to their in-house brands? They were doing that on their high-end quartz chrono movements a few years ago.
@ Hey I hear you. Everyone has their thing. I’m not going to automatically (no pun intended) buy it either, but for me, I’m good with the one tick per second. It sure as 💩 has to hit the markers though. 😉
If Bulova start putting precisionist movements on all the less 'hublot like' models... Think devil diver, some GADA launch with solid colors... They can easily be on the best end of this trend
My red Jet Star gets a lot of looks, and some comments just out in the wild from regular non-watch people. And when I show watch geeks the sweep, I could poke them in the eyes; they're so hypnotized, lol. 😄
Bulova is fully owned by Citizen and the Precisionist movement is branded Miyota. There could be a real possibility that Citizen may use that movement in watches other than Bulova. As far as movement size, it is not much different than a regular quartz except for the battery.
I could not wrap my head around Pitzman making a promotional video of their mechanical watches being made in some big Chinese facility. Might as well stick to the San Martins.
If it were more original in design, like say, a Brew, the price would be no problem. But there are any number of Explorer/Ranger style watches on Ali Express that match or surpass this one.
Indeed. Certina cosc certifies their precision quartz watches and you can find a number of them for less than this. That fact got glossed over, likely given the sponsorship of this video.
I hate the snobbery around quartz. I have loads from 30 quid Casios to the Bulova Lunar pilot and I've just bought a Seiko go large speedtimer which is superb.
This is a good thing.....love the Sekio VH-31 movement It ticks like an auto, the accuracy of quartz 2 year battery + a super cheap and easy battery change.
Battery replacement every two years sucks. It’s not hard but it’s one more thing to manage w/ a large collection. I think I have seven watches w/ that movement.
I have to disagree, they unsuccessfully mimic an auto and make watches look cheap. If you're gonna go with a chrono, you've got to go mechanical if you can.
I'm all for high end quartz, but to my mind a high end quartz ought to be solar powered and radio controlled. Features that a 'normal' quartz can't match. I know that there are any 3rd party available movements like that, though.
I agree with solar but not with the radio controlled. I was around a lot of RF energy in the service and would be concerned with interference and spurious inputs into any watch with a receiver. Might just be paranoia from being an electronic warfare guy, but I’d rather my watch be under my control.
I know I've seen non-in-house solar movements in a few recently reviewed watches. Radio control, though, I haven't heard about. But that's a good excuse to buy a Casio Oceanus.
Automatics are all well and good, but they're not practical for those of us who don't wear the same watch every day. I'm all for quartz making a comeback.
as a watch collector with both quartz and mechanical, if I'm in a hurry throw on a quartz. If I've got time, I pick the watch I feel like wearing - if its mechanical then I get joy out setting the time, not so much the date...
Yes - and [hint] I was impressed with that Pitzmann bracelet clasp too. What I'm hoping: a - thinner? - Ascent or a new (I'm guessing) a 38-39mm all-brushed field watch, applied indices, date-at-6 and lotsa daytime-white lume (not that faux 'radium' pretending-to-be-old sh1te) :->
Tissot in the Sea Star and Marathon with the SSNAV also use a PreciDrive ETA movement. But I agree, not enough, and I wish more brands had 10s/yr accuracy as the baseline.
@@WendyandGeoffPattisonCitizen also have a 1s/yr movement in the 0100. But most of their movements are 15s/mo, even in pricey non-"The Citizen" offerings.
After reading these comments I’m convinced society is doomed. Apparently there’s a large percentage of people that get PTSD from a ticking seconds hand. Such a sad state of affairs.
I love quartz watches, but in this price range I expect solar and radio/bluetooth/gps atomic clock … The dial colours are boring, the mismatch in finish of the bracelet is would forgive in a sub 100,-€ Casio, but not in a 500,-€ watch! So in total it is a complete overprice NoGo for me!
Wearing my Casio Oceanus S100 as I watch this video. (Thanks for that tip, Jody.) I get that it’s fun to have a tiny incredibly complicated mechanical thing on your wrist. I also think it’s fun to have a tiny insanely accurate thing on your wrist. Unthinkable 60 years ago.
Hard yes! I'd love the microbrands to release more quartz watches instead of c̶r̶a̶p̶p̶y̶ budget Seiko/Miyota movements. Sweeping second is great, a ticking one that hits minutes markers is ok too. A solar movement is even better. IMO, let's say San Martin SN0129 like watch with thinner case and a true premium quartz can be a real deal.
With the popularity (explosion) of micro brands, I’m surprised there are any automatic movements left in the world!! And the battle for who uses the thinnest movement adding to the cost of the watch. I think meca-quartz is the future as people also want the thinnest watches for the best possible price (see watchdives etc)
Yes! I moved over to quartz a few years ago - vintage quartz and watchdives quartz - I don't miss all that date setting and winding of my too numerous automatics! atb snack.
You will need to use the crown every 2 monthes for the date. But like Jody and me, may be everytime because after wearing one, it might seat there more than 2 monthes.
a hundred dollars less and id go for it. at this price point i will save a bit longer and go for the citizen chronomaster in a color which i would prefer over either of these offerings.
Solar Quartz is my preference. Until someone puts a radioisotope thermoelectric generator in a watch it's the closest we'll have to a perpetual power source.
I've been an advocate for sweeping quartz movements like the VH63, primarily because about 30% of my automatic movement collection have had problems, but also because quartz movements are less expensive, allow the case to be significantly thinner and lighter, and of course, the accuracy. I hope the 'cheap' microbrands move to include quartz in their upper lines of watches. Build them and we will buy!
I'm generally not interested in the tick-tick of a traditional quartz, BUT having one in a two-hander is perfectly acceptable and actually preferable to me. That said, I'm a huge fan of the relatively high beat-rate VH31 that Seiko refers to as their "Sweep Second Quartz Series". It's sweep-ish, but definitely good enough with 4 beats per second (bps) compared to 6 bps with the NH35. I have the movement in my Duckworth Prestex and it's terrific, especially since it reduced the price of my particular model significantly for minimal difference in "sweep"
I have given up on mechanical watches. What is the point? You can pick up a quartz watch anytime and it is telling the correct time. If you are going to produce a high-quality quartz (using the 300 ETA movements) sign me up!!
I rediscovered a love of quartz when I purchased a couple of Elliot Brown watches last year. I then recently purchased a Bulova Marine Star and was blown away with the high precision quartz sweeping movement so much so I purchased the Jet Star a week later. I have one VH31 movement watch which is ok but not in the same league as the Bulova movement.
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I had just commented about Korean-made watches and you were already making this! Incredible. I love the look of this and hope you're right about high-frequency quartz catching on. I do prefer a smooth sweep, but this looks pretty well aligned, which makes me okay with it.
I think you’re right on the money with your predictions here, already seeing a few more micro brand quartz models over the last few months. Hope to see many more!
Shame about Longines dropping the vhp, made for some cracking discounts, I got my vhp gmt on bracelet for less than £600. Victorinox are still doing the Inox in a couple of quartz variants.
Intellectually, quartz is super sensible, practical and accurate. Emotionally, I feel more connection with my automatic and mechanical timepieces, unless the quartz is really feature packed, or has a second display small enough that I could ignore the ticking. The sweep of an automatic or even a spring drive just looks so much better to me. I think if we had a sweeping quartz in one of these it would be a no-brainer.
Hard to beat the Citizen A060 movements. HAQ, perpetual calendar and solar. Yes the watches they go in aren't bargains but the Citizen "The Citizen" watches like the Chronomaster are very much worth it. All that said if the design is right I would welcome HAQ from anyone. Just remember though that the design has to be right.
How difficult would it be for micros to make solar quartz? My dream beater is a solar quartz, small seconds, applied/painted numerals field watch, but I’ve yet to find one out there to buy
BTW, you mentioned purchasing 300 of the same movement last year. I dont recall any of the movements in the current Erebus catalog. What is the plan for these movements. Curious Erebus fans want to know!
I love a good nice quartz like that. I hope to see more of them! You will definitely be using the crown more than once a year though because every other month you would have to fix the date for the months that only have 30 days.
Curve ball, but how about a really short seconds hand if it ticks? If it does not reach the indices then it cannot annoyingly miss them. Maybe an inner unbroken circle so it has something to touch.
Mmmm. Ticking quartz? Not for me, however the model you have hits the second marks. Sweeping would suit me. My wife’s comments when she overheard you getting excited about the clasp “what is so special about the clasp? I wear a watch because I like the look and feel of it, not because of the clasp!“ female perspectives, does she have point? Oh she has a point, she has a say in our finances, she has a point! Nice watch though, even if it is somewhat overpriced like their other offerings. I loved their chronograph but again I personally thought it was about $4_500 dollars overpriced. Looking forward to seeing what Erebus offer both quartz and mechanical wise throughout this year Jody.
I wear an 80’s seiko 7548 quartz diver… the movement might not be high accuracy but they are a pleasure to work on and really high quality… I have two actually… not all quartz are equal…
I've been seeing an increase in high quality quartz demand and I love it. It took me a while to try quartz again after my cheap timex I had to sleep in a separate room to because of how loud the tick was, but after getting a Chronomaster I'm kind of just on the hunt for beautifully finished quality quartz watches. The lack of maintenance is just too good to pass up. EDIT: Also the bang for buck because of how much more affordable quartz is. Same finishing as an automatic equivalent for half the price or less.
My go to quartz isn’t from a micro, it’s a Certina. It’s a DS-2 Precidrive chrono and I wear it when I watch racing or go to car events. I don’t get the opportunity to do that very often so it’s nice to have my go-to “car watch” set and ready to go for when the green lights go out 😁
C'mon Jody. Do it. I'd love to see the excellent build quality, aesthetic and versatility of an Erebus in a quartz package. No date would also make it a true set and forget. Not sure on the availability of solar movements for microbrands but that would be next level.
I am not sure if the price is in USD or Aussie $. Either way, I feel it is far too expensive for a quartz. AS an ex soldier, it is well know to most servicemen that the colours of Khaki and yellow denote HIGH EXPLOSIVE. During training at Kapooka every recruit throws 2 grenades. The first is a dummy grenade coloured blue. They think this is the real deal ,but it's just a training one to see if the recruit will flinch /drop it /fumble it or have a panic attack . If they pass this phase they are then re circled through with the REAL DEAL .The real explosive grenade is coloured Khaki and has a yellow stripe. After that phase is finished , they are informed on how to detect High explosive ordinance by the Khaki and Yellow colours. I do like both dials on the Pitzman but they are going to need to bring the price down a lot to pique my interest.
Jodi so you've let the cat out of the bag with purchased 300 ETA quartz movements, my wish list of a Quartz would include Titanium, 41mm, date at 6 O'clock, display back, Duratek coating, short clasp (My ascent clasp is a little long) lumed of course. I'm looking forward to the email asking for my deposit :)
It's a nice enough watch. I do not like battery Quartz movements though. Nothing against the Quartz bit it's the battery I don't like. Would like to see solar powered movements replace the nasty poisonous batteries. Come on Jody you know that evil battery is plotting your downfall, it will quit on you at a time that causes a life changing catastrophe, besides solar is free, what sort of Scotsman are you? 😉
About half my collection is quartz, including a few Seiko and Citizen watches, a Scurfa dive watch, a Mondaine (bought in switzerland) and a Marathon Navigator with an ETA F06 high accuracy quartz. My only true complaint with analog quartz is a second hand that misses the markers, especially where it lands right between the marks - so irritating!
Heya Jodi.....In countries with daylight saving time you'll be adjusting it twice a year, which means your watch will never be out by more than 5 seconds. Nice!
I recall saying about a year ago that this trend was coming. Along with much more titanium, and i think red dials are gonna be the next big colour if they arent already. Picked up my orange Scurfa with a high accuracy eta movement in '24, wears amazing and on track for +4 seconds per year!
I generally only want quartz movements with a sweeping second hand, like with the Seiko VH31 movement. It's why I bought an Addiesdive AD2030 last year. Otherwise, if I'm going for a watch that I want to throw on and not worry about having to wind/set, I'd just get a digital.
Great subliminal messaging Jody for the next Erebus .... quartz is the next best thing, quartz movements are not all cheap, you have bought a gazillion of these movements , the Pittman price is reasonable ! So the next Erebus being a quartz at that sort of price is therefore on trend, quality albeit a quartz and the price is reasonable!! Fair enough looking forward to it👍😀
I experimented with making a VH31 based watch last year, and the biggest challenge I had was finding a movement holder that fitted. In the end, a Casio MTD1010 I’d used for parts was the donor
Just been on eBay whilst watching this video, and many automatic watches available for this price, including, Swiss and Seiko !, if you look hand wind there is more Hamilton Kaki Field springs to mind. If quartz is going to be a trend I would prefer more mechaquatz.
Over the last 2-3 years I kind of turned to quartz. They are just so convenient! They are accurate, reliable, you can save money on them and there are a lot of cool watches to begin with! Of course I'm still loving mechanical movements, but I just find myself grabbing a PRX Quartz or my Citizen Ecodrive more often than my mechanicals lately
I recently was swapping some batteries in some of my favorite quartz pieces and came across one in particular that housed a ETA G15-261 a fresh battery didn't bring it back to life so I had to order a new movement that cost me around Eighty Nine dollars it operates a completely retrograde chronograph watch that I consider one of my most complicated chronos there some fantastic quartz watches out there you just have to hunt them down Thanks for sharing as always my friend Be well and Big blessings
Great Video Jody. Yes I agree, high precision quartz is high on my agenda for this year to add to my collection... been looking at the bulova lunar pilot and seville, marathon navigator steel, amongst others. The Pitzmann watches sound great especially with ETA quartz inside. I'd need a black/blue dial to make me purchase... I'm visiting Seoul in September this year so it would be good to pick up a black/blue dial Overture date whilst I'm there. BTW an ETA HP quartz Erebus Ascent would also be great 🙂
The stepper motor can step the second hand however they want it to. I would like to see them set it to advance the second hand every 1/4 second. Mechanical feel with quartz accuracy
Jody youre spot on about quartz renaissance! I have many high end seiko quartz from the 80,s and theyre my favorite watches by far. Never understood the snobbery tbh. Thinner and more accurate.
Very nice. I really like the watch!So you purchased 300 Quartz movements…🤔. I have solidly started appreciating Quartz more. Thanks for the great review and looking forward what you may possibly do with those 300 quartz movements….😉
I actually really like that celebration style dial. More companies should be looking at quartz both single tick and high frequency. Also love the shirt
Amongst the watch nerd community this is already underway for sure. I have quite a few pieces now, including a couple of mechaquartz chronos, smooth-sweep tool watches and a Bulova precisionist. If you have a box full of timepieces, especially with dates and more, it's nice to have them still working and accurate when you pick them up after a week or so. The smooth sweep movements make this a lot more palatable though. I'm sorry but there's still no way I'm paying $500 for an electric ticker. I'm really quite interested in a big moon complication (an ACCURATE one, not a date wheel in fancy-dress! I'm looking at you, Chinese brands...) or even a perpetual calendar that's powered by a quartz engine. I'll also add that if you're gonna go quartz you might as well go Japanese. The Swiss are hardly known for their prowess in this area.
Tissot made a 40mm dive watch with that movement for way cheaper. This clasp spanks Tissots clasp though (I have the Tissot). But the Tissot is such a delight grab and go watch that can take a beating (I'm a firefighter/paramedic). It's thin for a dive watch also.
Never understood why more brands don't use sweeping quartz more often. A lot of ppl shy away from quartz bc they don't like how the ticking looks. Sweeping quartz takes care of that, and annoying servicing costs associate with automatic watches.
I think people who want quartz aren't bothered about the sweep. They want accuracy and battery life instead.
@@JustOneMoreWatchI agree with you. I don’t care about the sweep at all. I get tired of resetting the time with my mechanicals. So I wear a CWC Sea Falcon and a Christopher Ward Valour for nearly everything now, both quartzes and neither of these sacrifice battery life for the visual sweep.
As a diehard quartz devotee, I REEEAAALLLY wish they would sweep. Especially mega-smooth a la Precisionist. Or at least like Seiko mechaquartz. I'll grudgingly deal with the 1-tick per second thing, if I must, for Eco-Drive. I'm DYING for the day of the Eco-Drive Precisionist Perpetual Calendar!!! If I had a magic wand, I'd add GPS calibration a la Citizen Satellite Wave.
@@JustOneMoreWatchfor me (as part of my 80+ watch collection including quartz, mecha-quartz, mechanical and automatic) the benefit of quartz, and in particular mecha-quartz, is about a few things 1) price - often a look/style for less, 2) grab and go versatility and 3) mecha-quartz eliminates the annoyance of many quartz watch hands missing the markers. As a 4th) on the side I do like the smooth sweep better than that of a plain quartz.
To actually accurately time something I am using something else besides a watch, plus the downside of battery life is the cost when you have to replace multiple watch batteries at once.
I would wear quartz all the time if it was sweeping. I can’t afford a high end quartz, but would love a sweeping hand quartz
"Bought 300 last year." Sneaky way to hint a quartz Erebus is on the way.
Since you bought a few, quick question. Does ETA still reserve thermo compensation to their in-house brands? They were doing that on their high-end quartz chrono movements a few years ago.
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Just thought the same. 🙂 A mistake or on purpose Jody?? 🙂
@@tonnyhansen4481Mr. Musgrove doesn’t make mistakes when it comes to watches… 😉Field Watch! Field Watch! Field Watch!
Obviously the case… and almost as obvious Jody’s first big mistake in the watch biz. No sweep, No sale.
@ Hey I hear you. Everyone has their thing. I’m not going to automatically (no pun intended) buy it either, but for me, I’m good with the one tick per second. It sure as 💩 has to hit the markers though. 😉
If Bulova start putting precisionist movements on all the less 'hublot like' models... Think devil diver, some GADA launch with solid colors... They can easily be on the best end of this trend
Bulova should make the movement from Jet Star have solar charging and I'm switching from mechanicals.
My red Jet Star gets a lot of looks, and some comments just out in the wild from regular non-watch people. And when I show watch geeks the sweep, I could poke them in the eyes; they're so hypnotized, lol. 😄
Bulova is fully owned by Citizen and the Precisionist movement is branded Miyota. There could be a real possibility that Citizen may use that movement in watches other than Bulova. As far as movement size, it is not much different than a regular quartz except for the battery.
I really hope so, such a cool movement but they mostly use it in the gaudy mall watch designs
Those "Hublot-like" model are just hideous
Datsun! That'd be a great name for a car. Someone should do it!
Ahahha!
I hope Honda will bring it back as a sports car line .
@@robertflanders1158 Nissan.
Where oh where did you source that t-shirt?
Nissan used to be Datsun .
If only bulova made more "normal" precisionist watches, or if they sold those movements separetly. That sweep plus the quartz accuracy...
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It would be so good! 💯
They do. It’s in some diver type models, the Super Sevilles, and the Jet Star. Just had to the Bulova website and select precisionist.
This is the second time in a couple weeks that I’ve said Pitzman is pricing themselves out of the realm of realistic.
I could not wrap my head around Pitzman making a promotional video of their mechanical watches being made in some big Chinese facility. Might as well stick to the San Martins.
Add to that, the fact that particular movement has a $52.00 replacement cost.
If it were more original in design, like say, a Brew, the price would be no problem. But there are any number of Explorer/Ranger style watches on Ali Express that match or surpass this one.
@@thomasstratford6227 Most micro's are made in China - Erebus make fantastic watches, and they are made in San Martins factory
Indeed. Certina cosc certifies their precision quartz watches and you can find a number of them for less than this. That fact got glossed over, likely given the sponsorship of this video.
I hate the snobbery around quartz. I have loads from 30 quid Casios to the Bulova Lunar pilot and I've just bought a Seiko go large speedtimer which is superb.
This is a good thing.....love the Sekio VH-31 movement It ticks like an auto, the accuracy of quartz 2 year battery + a super cheap and easy battery change.
Currently own four VH31. Cannot stop!
I agree 100% … love watches, which run with the VH31 😊
Battery replacement every two years sucks. It’s not hard but it’s one more thing to manage w/ a large collection. I think I have seven watches w/ that movement.
@@Bob_Smith19 i like dolphins
I have to disagree, they unsuccessfully mimic an auto and make watches look cheap. If you're gonna go with a chrono, you've got to go mechanical if you can.
I'm all for high end quartz, but to my mind a high end quartz ought to be solar powered and radio controlled. Features that a 'normal' quartz can't match. I know that there are any 3rd party available movements like that, though.
I agree with solar but not with the radio controlled. I was around a lot of RF energy in the service and would be concerned with interference and spurious inputs into any watch with a receiver. Might just be paranoia from being an electronic warfare guy, but I’d rather my watch be under my control.
I know I've seen non-in-house solar movements in a few recently reviewed watches. Radio control, though, I haven't heard about. But that's a good excuse to buy a Casio Oceanus.
Solar makes so much sense in a HAQ watch. Not sure about the radio controlled feature since a HAQ should require minimal adjustment.
@@C.C._TJ_JasonI’m an EW guy as well and have one of the multi band 6 watches…. Interference, etc. is not an issue.
I’m a quartz lover but in today’s world, I won’t buy quartz without it being solar. It’s just too easy. The only exception are inexpensive Casios!!!
Automatics are all well and good, but they're not practical for those of us who don't wear the same watch every day. I'm all for quartz making a comeback.
They never went away.
as a watch collector with both quartz and mechanical, if I'm in a hurry throw on a quartz. If I've got time, I pick the watch I feel like wearing - if its mechanical then I get joy out setting the time, not so much the date...
Nice video segway into a quartz Erebus for 2025, which to be honest I can’t wait to see and buy
Likewise!
Yes - and [hint] I was impressed with that Pitzmann bracelet clasp too.
What I'm hoping: a - thinner? - Ascent or a new (I'm guessing) a 38-39mm all-brushed field watch, applied indices, date-at-6 and lotsa daytime-white lume (not that faux 'radium' pretending-to-be-old sh1te) :->
I'm actually a big fan of quartz. I have a Timex solar quartz and an Islander quartz. They're both great wears.
My issue with Pitzman is the misleading “Seoul” on the dial. Yes the brand is Korean but their factory/manufacturing is in China.
Tissot in the Sea Star and Marathon with the SSNAV also use a PreciDrive ETA movement. But I agree, not enough, and I wish more brands had 10s/yr accuracy as the baseline.
The citizen has 5s/yr.
@@WendyandGeoffPattisonCitizen also have a 1s/yr movement in the 0100. But most of their movements are 15s/mo, even in pricey non-"The Citizen" offerings.
After reading these comments I’m convinced society is doomed. Apparently there’s a large percentage of people that get PTSD from a ticking seconds hand. Such a sad state of affairs.
And most of those will have nothing more "high end" than a generic Sellita or ETA powered watch.
I'd like it better if it was solar quartz
I love quartz watches, but in this price range I expect solar and radio/bluetooth/gps atomic clock …
The dial colours are boring, the mismatch in finish of the bracelet is would forgive in a sub 100,-€ Casio, but not in a 500,-€ watch!
So in total it is a complete overprice NoGo for me!
Wearing my Casio Oceanus S100 as I watch this video. (Thanks for that tip, Jody.) I get that it’s fun to have a tiny incredibly complicated mechanical thing on your wrist. I also think it’s fun to have a tiny insanely accurate thing on your wrist. Unthinkable 60 years ago.
Hard yes! I'd love the microbrands to release more quartz watches instead of c̶r̶a̶p̶p̶y̶ budget Seiko/Miyota movements. Sweeping second is great, a ticking one that hits minutes markers is ok too. A solar movement is even better. IMO, let's say San Martin SN0129 like watch with thinner case and a true premium quartz can be a real deal.
I’d love a quartz SM
SM could easily put a Ronda in that and the price would be the same
300 ETA Quartz Bought Last Year Jody? I Hope That Means Erebus High Precision Quartz Soon! 👀
Decent accuracy for sure, but that's about the only thing going for it IMO. Not my taste at all, there's just nothing exceptional.
I have been wearing Certina DS-2 with Precidrive movement for the past 2 years. Super happy with it. Only paid about 350 USD for it
With the popularity (explosion) of micro brands, I’m surprised there are any automatic movements left in the world!! And the battle for who uses the thinnest movement adding to the cost of the watch. I think meca-quartz is the future as people also want the thinnest watches for the best possible price (see watchdives etc)
I want those high quality, servicable quartz movements back to dive watches!
Tag makes those. (Aquaracer has quartz option)
A serviceable quartz is an oxymoron unless you consider a Seiko spring drive to be a meechaquartz
Have a look at Scurfa watches ☺️👍
@@GeneGirard007 Grand Seiko’s quartz movements are serviceable! They’re meant to be serviced instead of replaced
Certina is doing it right now
Does this mean there's going to be a quartz ascent?! That would elevate it from regular GADA to The Citizen style GADA
No tick tick it has be bulova if.its quartz hi beat hi accuracy
Will there be a quartz Erebus in 2025?
I don't think he bought 300 of these movements to modify his Seikos...
I hope so
lol this is a back door advertisement for that. Come on man. He didn’t buy 300 of them to compare second hands
Yep. A bit of a hint there I think! Should be good.
I've got one of those Boderry Landmasters you reviewed the other week. I'd definitely have bought a quartz version of that if it were available.
Yes! I moved over to quartz a few years ago - vintage quartz and watchdives quartz - I don't miss all that date setting and winding of my too numerous automatics! atb snack.
You will need to use the crown every 2 monthes for the date. But like Jody and me, may be everytime because after wearing one, it might seat there more than 2 monthes.
a hundred dollars less and id go for it. at this price point i will save a bit longer and go for the citizen chronomaster in a color which i would prefer over either of these offerings.
Solar Quartz is my preference. Until someone puts a radioisotope thermoelectric generator in a watch it's the closest we'll have to a perpetual power source.
I've been an advocate for sweeping quartz movements like the VH63, primarily because about 30% of my automatic movement collection have had problems, but also because quartz movements are less expensive, allow the case to be significantly thinner and lighter, and of course, the accuracy. I hope the 'cheap' microbrands move to include quartz in their upper lines of watches. Build them and we will buy!
You said that you bought how many of these quartz movements? Are you hinting at some future release?
I'm generally not interested in the tick-tick of a traditional quartz, BUT having one in a two-hander is perfectly acceptable and actually preferable to me. That said, I'm a huge fan of the relatively high beat-rate VH31 that Seiko refers to as their "Sweep Second Quartz Series". It's sweep-ish, but definitely good enough with 4 beats per second (bps) compared to 6 bps with the NH35. I have the movement in my Duckworth Prestex and it's terrific, especially since it reduced the price of my particular model significantly for minimal difference in "sweep"
Been wearing an Eterna quartz with small seconds for the last month. It is the longest I have worn a single watch for a long, long time.
I have given up on mechanical watches. What is the point? You can pick up a quartz watch anytime and it is telling the correct time. If you are going to produce a high-quality quartz (using the 300 ETA movements) sign me up!!
I rediscovered a love of quartz when I purchased a couple of Elliot Brown watches last year. I then recently purchased a Bulova Marine Star and was blown away with the high precision quartz sweeping movement so much so I purchased the Jet Star a week later. I have one VH31 movement watch which is ok but not in the same league as the Bulova movement.
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The ETA movements are (good but) unfortunately not in the same league as a 9F or A060.
Recently picked up a Credor HAQ on the used market and I'm impressed. So, I do hope you're right about this trend!
It seems that accidental pressing of clasp button will be a trouble and lead to frequent change in size of bracelet. What is your take jody?
I had just commented about Korean-made watches and you were already making this! Incredible.
I love the look of this and hope you're right about high-frequency quartz catching on. I do prefer a smooth sweep, but this looks pretty well aligned, which makes me okay with it.
I think you’re right on the money with your predictions here, already seeing a few more micro brand quartz models over the last few months. Hope to see many more!
Shame about Longines dropping the vhp, made for some cracking discounts, I got my vhp gmt on bracelet for less than £600. Victorinox are still doing the Inox in a couple of quartz variants.
Intellectually, quartz is super sensible, practical and accurate. Emotionally, I feel more connection with my automatic and mechanical timepieces, unless the quartz is really feature packed, or has a second display small enough that I could ignore the ticking. The sweep of an automatic or even a spring drive just looks so much better to me. I think if we had a sweeping quartz in one of these it would be a no-brainer.
Hard to beat the Citizen A060 movements. HAQ, perpetual calendar and solar. Yes the watches they go in aren't bargains but the Citizen "The Citizen" watches like the Chronomaster are very much worth it. All that said if the design is right I would welcome HAQ from anyone. Just remember though that the design has to be right.
No solar? Why not?!!!
With daylight saving time wouldn't you adjust the watch twice a year?
Don't forget 28, 29, 30-day month rollovers. Pretty sure this one isn't a Perpetual Calendar.
Yes, you adjust twice a year unless you’re in most of the world that doesn’t use it.
How difficult would it be for micros to make solar quartz? My dream beater is a solar quartz, small seconds, applied/painted numerals field watch, but I’ve yet to find one out there to buy
Nah that's too much money for a pretty unremarkable-looking watch. Why not a high precision quartz with a sweep seconds hand?
BTW, you mentioned purchasing 300 of the same movement last year. I dont recall any of the movements in the current Erebus catalog. What is the plan for these movements. Curious Erebus fans want to know!
I believe he hinted at a Field and a Chronograph. So I’m thinking Field Watch. 👍🏼
@adk7962 I'm hoping for something a little more refined than a field watch. A nicely finished sport watch. A GADA.
@@shj2000 I could definitely get on board with that also!
I love a good nice quartz like that. I hope to see more of them! You will definitely be using the crown more than once a year though because every other month you would have to fix the date for the months that only have 30 days.
We need a movement maker to recreate the Lemania 5100's functionality in high-accuracy quartz.
Quartz Erebus for 2025?
Curve ball, but how about a really short seconds hand if it ticks?
If it does not reach the indices then it cannot annoyingly miss them.
Maybe an inner unbroken circle so it has something to touch.
Did I hear correctly 🤔 a possible quartz Erebus! Take my money!!!
I'd love to see what a digital Erebus would look like.
Mmmm. Ticking quartz? Not for me, however the model you have hits the second marks. Sweeping would suit me.
My wife’s comments when she overheard you getting excited about the clasp “what is so special about the clasp? I wear a watch because I like the look and feel of it, not because of the clasp!“ female perspectives, does she have point? Oh she has a point, she has a say in our finances, she has a point!
Nice watch though, even if it is somewhat overpriced like their other offerings. I loved their chronograph but again I personally thought it was about $4_500 dollars overpriced.
Looking forward to seeing what Erebus offer both quartz and mechanical wise throughout this year Jody.
Please take a look at the Bulova Super Seville! I am so impressed with mine. The smooth sweep, precisionist movement is the cherry on top!
So we should be seeing an Erebus high Accuracy Quartz GMT soon then? What better complication to be high accuracy?!!!!
Wouldn't the micro adjust button potentially be pushed when you are desk diving? Seems unlikely, but still it's a funny place to put it?
I wear an 80’s seiko 7548 quartz diver… the movement might not be high accuracy but they are a pleasure to work on and really high quality… I have two actually… not all quartz are equal…
So whatcha gonna do later this year Jody? 😁
I'm excited to see if this trend comes to fruition.
I think he said in a previous video that Erebus is doing a Field and a Chronograph next. 🤞🏼
I've been seeing an increase in high quality quartz demand and I love it. It took me a while to try quartz again after my cheap timex I had to sleep in a separate room to because of how loud the tick was, but after getting a Chronomaster I'm kind of just on the hunt for beautifully finished quality quartz watches. The lack of maintenance is just too good to pass up.
EDIT: Also the bang for buck because of how much more affordable quartz is. Same finishing as an automatic equivalent for half the price or less.
My go to quartz isn’t from a micro, it’s a Certina. It’s a DS-2 Precidrive chrono and I wear it when I watch racing or go to car events. I don’t get the opportunity to do that very often so it’s nice to have my go-to “car watch” set and ready to go for when the green lights go out 😁
C'mon Jody. Do it. I'd love to see the excellent build quality, aesthetic and versatility of an Erebus in a quartz package. No date would also make it a true set and forget. Not sure on the availability of solar movements for microbrands but that would be next level.
What a great preparing for new Erebus quartz watch. "Trend" is coming for you. :D
An Erebus mecha-quartz piece next then ??? 🤔
I wish! But apparently Erebus is going with this same ETA HAQ movement. 😕
I am not sure if the price is in USD or Aussie $. Either way, I feel it is far too expensive for a quartz. AS an ex soldier, it is well know to most servicemen that the colours of Khaki and yellow denote HIGH EXPLOSIVE. During training at Kapooka every recruit throws 2 grenades. The first is a dummy grenade coloured blue. They think this is the real deal ,but it's just a training one to see if the recruit will flinch /drop it /fumble it or have a panic attack . If they pass this phase they are then re circled through with the REAL DEAL .The real explosive grenade is coloured Khaki and has a yellow stripe. After that phase is finished , they are informed on how to detect High explosive ordinance by the Khaki and Yellow colours. I do like both dials on the Pitzman but they are going to need to bring the price down a lot to pique my interest.
Thankfully, most of us are not in the habit of throwing grenades
Were you right about your previous predictions?
Jodi so you've let the cat out of the bag with purchased 300 ETA quartz movements, my wish list of a Quartz would include Titanium, 41mm, date at 6 O'clock, display back, Duratek coating, short clasp (My ascent clasp is a little long) lumed of course. I'm looking forward to the email asking for my deposit :)
It's a nice enough watch. I do not like battery Quartz movements though. Nothing against the Quartz bit it's the battery I don't like. Would like to see solar powered movements replace the nasty poisonous batteries. Come on Jody you know that evil battery is plotting your downfall, it will quit on you at a time that causes a life changing catastrophe, besides solar is free, what sort of Scotsman are you? 😉
You are absolutely correct.
Truth be told I prefer quartz. It's especially useful for us who have larger collections or require our watches to take the occasional bump.
It’s great until battery replacement time. It’s why I switched to solar if at all possible. Fifty+ battery replacements gets old.
@@Bob_Smith19 Indeed. Solar is awesome!
Like the watch,the idea,not the colours..
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About half my collection is quartz, including a few Seiko and Citizen watches, a Scurfa dive watch, a Mondaine (bought in switzerland) and a Marathon Navigator with an ETA F06 high accuracy quartz. My only true complaint with analog quartz is a second hand that misses the markers, especially where it lands right between the marks - so irritating!
why does no-one match the date wheel to the indices? that would help integrate it and make it almost disappear
Hands down, 39mm is the best size for a watch.
Heya Jodi.....In countries with daylight saving time you'll be adjusting it twice a year, which means your watch will never be out by more than 5 seconds. Nice!
I recall saying about a year ago that this trend was coming. Along with much more titanium, and i think red dials are gonna be the next big colour if they arent already.
Picked up my orange Scurfa with a high accuracy eta movement in '24, wears amazing and on track for +4 seconds per year!
I generally only want quartz movements with a sweeping second hand, like with the Seiko VH31 movement. It's why I bought an Addiesdive AD2030 last year. Otherwise, if I'm going for a watch that I want to throw on and not worry about having to wind/set, I'd just get a digital.
Great subliminal messaging Jody for the next Erebus .... quartz is the next best thing, quartz movements are not all cheap, you have bought a gazillion of these movements , the Pittman price is reasonable ! So the next Erebus being a quartz at that sort of price is therefore on trend, quality albeit a quartz and the price is reasonable!! Fair enough looking forward to it👍😀
Wow, this is definitely worth a closer look especially while I’m here in Korea!
Nice everyday piece, flies under the radar, for me the star of the show is the bracelet. Great presence and wrist roll
Wait a second, why did you buy 300 quarts movements last year??? HMMMM
Give me an Erebus Ascent with F07 movement and tiger eye dial for $550.00!
Well... $300.
I experimented with making a VH31 based watch last year, and the biggest challenge I had was finding a movement holder that fitted. In the end, a Casio MTD1010 I’d used for parts was the donor
Just been on eBay whilst watching this video, and many automatic watches available for this price, including, Swiss and Seiko !, if you look hand wind there is more Hamilton Kaki Field springs to mind. If quartz is going to be a trend I would prefer more mechaquatz.
Can get automatic watches for under £50. The point is the preference for non-mechanical movements, and there's definitely been a move back that way.
Over the last 2-3 years I kind of turned to quartz. They are just so convenient! They are accurate, reliable, you can save money on them and there are a lot of cool watches to begin with! Of course I'm still loving mechanical movements, but I just find myself grabbing a PRX Quartz or my Citizen Ecodrive more often than my mechanicals lately
I don't know- if you saw that on Ali how much would you pay for it? (with a lesser movement of course).
Maybe $80. And if it had a Mechaquartz movement, it would be worth more to me than with this ETA HAQ movement.
I recently was swapping some batteries in some of my favorite quartz pieces and came across one in particular that housed a ETA G15-261 a fresh battery didn't bring it back to life so I had to order a new movement that cost me around Eighty Nine dollars it operates a completely retrograde chronograph watch that I consider one of my most complicated chronos there some fantastic quartz watches out there you just have to hunt them down Thanks for sharing as always my friend Be well and Big blessings
quartz is so underrated , bring on more premium sweeping quartz please
Great Video Jody. Yes I agree, high precision quartz is high on my agenda for this year to add to my collection... been looking at the bulova lunar pilot and seville, marathon navigator steel, amongst others. The Pitzmann watches sound great especially with ETA quartz inside. I'd need a black/blue dial to make me purchase... I'm visiting Seoul in September this year so it would be good to pick up a black/blue dial Overture date whilst I'm there. BTW an ETA HP quartz Erebus Ascent would also be great 🙂
Pitzman are always doing something interesting, keen to see where they go next
0:42 i love that you included Erebus😂 it's hilarious 😂😂
pitzmann priced their watches like they're a well known brand.
The stepper motor can step the second hand however they want it to. I would like to see them set it to advance the second hand every 1/4 second. Mechanical feel with quartz accuracy
Jody youre spot on about quartz renaissance! I have many high end seiko quartz from the 80,s and theyre my favorite watches by far. Never understood the snobbery tbh. Thinner and more accurate.
Very nice. I really like the watch!So you purchased 300 Quartz movements…🤔. I have solidly started appreciating Quartz more. Thanks for the great review and looking forward what you may possibly do with those 300 quartz movements….😉
I actually really like that celebration style dial. More companies should be looking at quartz both single tick and high frequency. Also love the shirt
Amongst the watch nerd community this is already underway for sure. I have quite a few pieces now, including a couple of mechaquartz chronos, smooth-sweep tool watches and a Bulova precisionist. If you have a box full of timepieces, especially with dates and more, it's nice to have them still working and accurate when you pick them up after a week or so. The smooth sweep movements make this a lot more palatable though. I'm sorry but there's still no way I'm paying $500 for an electric ticker. I'm really quite interested in a big moon complication (an ACCURATE one, not a date wheel in fancy-dress! I'm looking at you, Chinese brands...) or even a perpetual calendar that's powered by a quartz engine. I'll also add that if you're gonna go quartz you might as well go Japanese. The Swiss are hardly known for their prowess in this area.
Tissot made a 40mm dive watch with that movement for way cheaper. This clasp spanks Tissots clasp though (I have the Tissot). But the Tissot is such a delight grab and go watch that can take a beating (I'm a firefighter/paramedic). It's thin for a dive watch also.
Yes! A high end quartz Erebus is coming! 🎉🥳👍🏻