The Reign of Hidetada | The Edo Period Episode 2

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @Chingaez
    @Chingaez Год назад +42

    And thus the beginning of the Edo Bakufu series...

  • @Error-sy7uu
    @Error-sy7uu Год назад +30

    I recently went to the Tower of London and they have on display a set of samurai armour that was gifted to King James I by Hidetada in 1613. They believe that the armour originally belonged to Takeda Katsuyori.

    • @sirseegull
      @sirseegull 7 месяцев назад +1

      one of the lords many suits

  • @Linkminer00
    @Linkminer00 Год назад +20

    Finally caught up. Your series on the Sengoku Jidai was absolutely amazing. It was very well edited, and all the music and art you used, both classic and otherwise, really added a lot to the experience. And every single episode was, of course, most informative.
    And so, we are rapidly approaching Shimabara, one of the very few major events of the Edo Jidai that I know about. After that I know basically nothing that happens until Bakumatsu, so it's gonna be fun to dive into unknown territory in the coming episodes. A bit sad I was late to the Sengoku party, but very excited for this journey through the Edo Jidai.

  • @jimross7648
    @jimross7648 Год назад +24

    I always found it strange that Tokugawa Hidetada actually survived to become Shogun. His father wasn't known for his patience in ignoring incompetence, or the disregarding of instructions to be carried out as directed. Hidetada had a habit of failing to follow instructions as directed, and failing to correct errors by actually winning military honours. The disregarding of instructions to not attempt to take Ueda Jo, but to merely surround and contain the garrison nearly had dire consequences. Hitetada's 38,000 men did not arrive until his father had already won the battle in which Ieyasu force was out numbered by approximately 40,000 soldiers. Instead of the approximate parity he would have had if Hidetada followed orders and arrived before the battle commenced.
    However, Hidetada was not killed and there after acted as an administrator of his father's instructions both before and after his father resignation as Shogun, until Ieyasu's death.
    As always you laid the groundwork and aptly explained how the first two Shoguns of the Edo period established the Tokugawa Shogunate. Another stellar episode.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 Год назад +14

      I think the difference between Ieyasu’s treatment of Hidetada and Nobuyasu is that when he killed Nobuyasu, it was because he needed to maintain his relationship with his overlord Oda Nobunaga. Not doing that means Ieyasu himself and his entire clan could be wiped out by the Oda overnight. But in case of Hidetada, Ieyasu was already a top dog so he had more freedom to spare his son without fearing about another powerful clan trying to kill him for it.

  • @TheMercian13
    @TheMercian13 6 месяцев назад +1

    The practice of retiring, handing the title over but retaining most power until death is incredibly clever.
    It establishes your heir, gives them exposure to leadership while still having great influence over the heir, you’re able to slowly cede power to the heir as they become more competent.

  • @lonelystrategos
    @lonelystrategos Год назад +27

    While I'm looking forward to learning more about the Edo period, I am already excited for when you eventually cover the Meiji Restoration.

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 Год назад +4

      What and have samurai with bolt-action rifles?

    • @wadepsilon01
      @wadepsilon01 Год назад +2

      ​@@jeffreygao3956
      ''I was using an imported Gatling gun''
      -Kawai Tsugunosuke(Makino Clan vassals)

  • @wanderingcrook3334
    @wanderingcrook3334 Год назад +4

    I'm always so happy when I see a new the shogunate video!!!

  • @zalop.
    @zalop. Год назад +5

    finally a part two keep it up man

  • @xogunatobrasil456
    @xogunatobrasil456 Год назад +5

    Awesome, let the Edo Period series come and bring more greatness to this amazing channel!

  • @Mickey-v7p
    @Mickey-v7p Год назад +23

    “Hidetada, I am gonna turn over the whole country to you and you better not screw everything up, just like what you did when you decided to pick a fight with the Sanada at Ueda Castle. If you ever screw everything up, I’ll have you beaten up like a wretched dog!”
    -Tokugawa Ieyasu

    • @supersasukemaniac
      @supersasukemaniac Год назад +2

      Hidetada: "Nani?!"

    • @Mickey-v7p
      @Mickey-v7p Год назад +8

      @@supersasukemaniac “Hidetada, if you are not fully aware, the great clans of our time fell because their offspring couldn’t live up to the hype of their forefathers. Takeda Katsuyori? We smoked him at Nagashino! Hojo Ujimasa? We smoked him as well! Toyotomi Hideyori? We just whooped his butt along with his family recently and as for the Oda Clan, it’s a mixed bag since Lord Nobutada died along with his father and his brothers got bamboozled by Lord Hideyoshi but nevertheless, you better not do anything stupid which will ruin all of our hard work! I have worked hard my entire life to achieve my dream, having to endure the indignity of kissing the butts of Lord Yoshimoto, Lord Nobunaga and Lord Hideyoshi and I have to nearly get my ass fatally kicked but I persevered and here I am, the most powerful man in all of Japan and let me remind you, don’t screw everything up or I’ll give you a beating! Heck, I’ll make you commit seppuku just like your oldest brother!”
      -Tokugawa Ieyasu

    • @mariusmatei2946
      @mariusmatei2946 Год назад

      Well, Tokugawa Ieyasu hadn't, exactly, "turned over" Japan to his heir, Tokugawa Hidetada, before the day he (Ieyasu) died (in 1616).

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 Год назад

      @@Mickey-v7p
      The pattern of great clans collapsing because the guy in charge died and the next generation fucked up gets even worse than this.
      The Uesugi? Disintegrated into civil war after Kenshin died and his adopted sons ended up throwing away every bit of land he had conquered to the Takeda and Hojo (who, also being examples of this trend, ended up having those lands be taken by the Tokugawa later).
      The Imagawa? Look at how incompetent Ujizane was to the point his reputation spilled over to his actually competent father who lost his head at Okezahama.
      The Miyoshi? The clan basically fell into court politics and backstabbing after its effective founder bit it and got wiped off the map by Nobunaga on Honshu and by the Chokabe on Shikoku.
      Even the Mori didn’t fully escape this: Motonari died and then they spent the following years gradually being ground down by Oda forces, and while they remained powerful even after that the majority of his achievements and holdings came undone in the fallout from Sekigahara, all because some of Motonari’s successors’ successors decided to switch sides and kick off the whole battle that resulted in the Western faction losing.

  • @michaelthepizzahuman
    @michaelthepizzahuman Год назад +9

    THANK YOU! BEST HISTORY CHANNEL!

  • @connorstudulski8617
    @connorstudulski8617 Год назад +4

    Damn, your new video format, music, and your opener are freaking awesome. Love this channel, keep it up!

  • @hanchiman
    @hanchiman Год назад +15

    I think the only black mark of HIdetada career is his screw up of coming late to Sekigahara that pissed off Ieyasu. Still we should not forget that he did redeem himself in appearing in Osaka twice though and legit saw battle

  • @Shinigami88X1
    @Shinigami88X1 Год назад +14

    About the Christian Missionaries. Keep in mind that at the same time The European powers was using them to conqueror The Americas and Africa. Also the Spanish has the inquisitors within.

    • @TheMercian13
      @TheMercian13 8 месяцев назад

      As a European, Japan did nothing wrong concerning Christianity. It’s a cancer.

  • @kado51393
    @kado51393 Год назад +1

    This is awesome! There are so many documentaries about Sengoku Jidei but it seems rare to find one about the Edo period! I'm going to Japan in 2 months and wanted to brush up on their history.

  • @wadepsilon01
    @wadepsilon01 Год назад +5

    The actor who plays Hidetada in the TV drama, my image of Toshiyuki Nishida is the first one that comes to mind.
    He played pigsy in ''Monkey''.

  • @DionysianLovecraftian
    @DionysianLovecraftian Год назад +1

    I'm intrigued by your Edo period series sofar! Good stuff. Japan at peace and starting isolationism.

  • @alexanderjohnson6178
    @alexanderjohnson6178 Год назад

    These uploads are always the highlights of my day!

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Год назад +1

    A really good video & thank you for sharing this with us

  • @TheObsessiveGamer
    @TheObsessiveGamer Год назад +3

    Beautifully covered as always! I am curious how far you want to go into the future? I expect Meiji Restoration afterwards, but would love to see everything covered up to the creation of modern Japan too.

  • @MG-cf5rv
    @MG-cf5rv Год назад +5

    A very good episode on the Shogun Hidetada, and hopefully more eps on the other 13 Shoguns after Hidetada. Would like to hear more about Ienari (11th Shogun) as there is not much written about him or even dramatized about him in movies or TV.

    • @wadepsilon01
      @wadepsilon01 Год назад

      My image of ienari
      ''Stallion shogun''

    • @mariusmatei2946
      @mariusmatei2946 Год назад

      Personally, my favorites are: Tokugawa Ieyasu (1600-1616), Tokugawa Iemitsu (1632-1651), Tokugawa Tsunayoshi (1680-1709), and Tokugawa Yoshimune (1716-1751); perhaps, you don't hear many (good) things about Tokugawa Ienari (1786-1841) because he was the shogun when the Tokugawa regime started to decline.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад

      I want to hear about Tsunoyoshi for the dog-saving initiatives, and I kinda want to know more about the horndog with a harem of wakashu.

  • @akmr.mafiax6363
    @akmr.mafiax6363 Год назад

    Listening to you while working out in the gym is like being in another dimension ❤️❤️

  • @kl271
    @kl271 Год назад

    Another fantastic video Good work!

  • @A_Toastonawhiteplate
    @A_Toastonawhiteplate Год назад

    Just today I thought about when the next episode will be up. Just listening to History of Japan Podcast of the Fall of the Samurai so this is a great fit

  • @TheMakoyou
    @TheMakoyou 5 месяцев назад

    In elementary schools in Tokyo, students always learn about the Tamagawa Josui (Tamagawa waterway) in their social studies classes. This waterway was completed in eight months from November 1653 to June 1654 to alleviate the water shortage in Edo (present-day Tokyo). The distance was 42 km and the difference in elevation was 100 m. Wooden water pipes were connected to this waterway, delivering water to nearly 100 wells. Some of the water pipes were replaced with stainless steel ones, which are still in use today. This large-scale flood control project by the shogunate contributed to the prosperity of Edo. I also learned this in elementary school, and it was very strange to think that even 350 years ago in Edo, water pipes were buried underground, just as they are today.

  • @Machiavelrous
    @Machiavelrous Год назад +1

    In another military blunder, during the Siege of Osaka, Hidetada had actually marched 100,000 troops from Edo Castle to Nijo Castle in just 17 days. Effectively exhausting his troops even before the battle had begun. He most likely wanted to make up for being late to Sekigahara. But he was overzealous in doing so. That, of course, did not earn him praise or a good impression from his father.
    He then lost control of his reserve troops during the Battle of Osaka, who advanced without the main force. Although who is to blame is uncertain, these two examples show why he was not a great military leader.

  • @basfinnis
    @basfinnis Год назад

    Very interesting series. Thanks a lot 😉

  • @shawntoyotomi3851
    @shawntoyotomi3851 Год назад

    I knew a lot of the history your just teaching me a lot more

  • @bushy9780
    @bushy9780 Год назад

    yeah, new intro is so good. Short and sweet.

  • @Flankymanga
    @Flankymanga Год назад

    I jumped immediately to check the video!

  • @flurnsdale3929
    @flurnsdale3929 Год назад +1

    I think a really cool topic would be Sengoku period ghost stories and folklore. Or just any sort of old tales and legends. Maybe even a iceberg video about ghost stories, folklore, legends, esoteric elements, fun facts of shintoism etc. The iceberg format is a good vehicle to give a bird eye's view of a subject and everyone is doing the same videos over and over again so it's easy to be original. I feel you could capitalize on this due to your knowledge of the subject and the lack of originality in most Icerberg videos.

  • @Cam-jam
    @Cam-jam Год назад +3

    Tokugawa Hidetada through his daughter Tokugawa Masako was the Grandfather of Empress Meishō Japan's 2nd last Female Emperor. She took the throne at 5 years old.

  • @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699
    @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 Год назад +1

    I think I’d be cool if you did a mini episode on Tokugawa Tadanaga and what might have lead to him being sentenced to death on counts of insanity.

  • @MrADX-cj8kc
    @MrADX-cj8kc 2 месяца назад

    @The Shogunate please also later down the line make a separate playlist for Shinsengumi.

  • @mikailkalashnikov1448
    @mikailkalashnikov1448 Год назад

    Love the series

  • @theuniverse5173
    @theuniverse5173 Год назад

    Love the new intro

  • @r.matsumoto9042
    @r.matsumoto9042 Год назад

    I enjoy your content. I am curious if you have ever done an overview of the Disputed heir of Sendai incident that has been (fictionally) portrayed in bunraku as "Meiboku Sendai Hagi"?

  • @patrickwilliams2530
    @patrickwilliams2530 Год назад +1

    As an historian who recently worked on the topic of swords could you please making a video demystifying the utility of katanas in the battlefield at war.
    We know yari were superior to the katanas and that yumi were traditionnaly the main weapon of the samourai.
    History itself proves how bad swords were during organized warfare :
    - The qin empire was able to unify china during the warring states period because of the use of longer spears and Ji plus crossbows despite using bronze against iron and steel.
    - Alexander the great used the reforms of phillip 2 and with the sarissa he steamrolled over half asia.
    - toyotomi hideyoshi advocated the use of long spears and under his "reign" during the imjin war japanese boasted that their spears were longer that those of the koreans.
    - the vikings encyclopedia for kings even says it in "the king's mirror"
    "You must also be specially advised, when you are in the line of battle, not to
    not throw your spear unless you have two, for on the battlefield on land
    A spear is more effective than two swords."
    - the Jouvencel written by jean de bueil describes the hundred years war and it says that the lance and spear dominates the battlefield for infantry and cavalry :
    "A spear is many and subtle, and is so small an entrance that it passes through;
    where it arrives, it is merciless. The most dangerous weapons in the world are
    horse and spear; for there is no stop for it"
    - In 15th century because of swiss hallberd and pikes germans tried to used the zweihander to counter them but without success the same goes with the odachi which during the kamakura period began to be used as an anti cavalry weapon as the zweihander did. Spears countered them.
    swords gained prestige because of the myths around them and because they were symbols of prestige, power and wealth and were used as a duelist weapon's in japan. The myths and the life of musashi is what really brought the katana as being over represented and over associated with samourais.
    hollywood more like trashwood destroyed reality and accuracy about ancient warfare.

  • @atomixfang
    @atomixfang Год назад

    Just in time. I needed my sengoku jidai fix.

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 Год назад +2

    “He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! But not our Hide, couldn’t be precious Hide. And he got to be a shogun? What a sick joke! I should have stopped him when I had the chance.”
    - Tokugawa Ieyasu

  • @shawntoyotomi3851
    @shawntoyotomi3851 Год назад

    I was just thinking about this

  • @phongle5379
    @phongle5379 Год назад

    Edo Period was great history in japanese history.

  • @martinhodan3271
    @martinhodan3271 Год назад +1

    Hi, great video as always. I ve been watching this series for some time now and I can't wait for the next episodes to come. Side question that I would like to ask and that I can't find answer to anywhere, what would be Toyotomi Hideyoris title if he ruled?

    • @TheShogunate
      @TheShogunate  Год назад +5

      He would probably have come to have been the Taiko like his father

  • @markusforsberg6741
    @markusforsberg6741 Год назад

    When will the next episode about Tokugawa Iemitsu be relesed.:)?

  • @AyubuKK
    @AyubuKK Год назад +1

    The Edo Period feels like it was like a “Classical Age” or an “Antiquity” of sorts for Japan. The last medieval Japanese era of powerful government stability, flourishing of Japanese culture, population growth, and a near perfect feudal order.

    • @haniwadog
      @haniwadog Год назад +2

      Not sure if you mean antiquity in the Roman or Greek sense? Seems pretty feudal though with banning travel and trade with almost anyone outside japan

    • @arielquelme
      @arielquelme 7 месяцев назад

      If only Matthew Perry didnt came to shatter their "small paradise" of 250 years

  • @markusforsberg6741
    @markusforsberg6741 Год назад

    Will the next episode come tomorrow.?:D

  • @Hilversumborn
    @Hilversumborn Год назад +1

    I hope the Shimabara rebellion gets it’s own video.

    • @Mickey-v7p
      @Mickey-v7p Год назад +2

      Also, we might be tackling on the persecution of the Christians in Japan.
      Speaking of Christianity and Japan, I think “Silence” would be a movie that would be discussed thoroughly.

  • @LeifEricson123
    @LeifEricson123 Год назад

    Hi, do you have an episode on each period?

  • @paulpranay4135
    @paulpranay4135 Год назад +1

    Are you going to touch on the Shimabara rebellion ?

  • @MM-se2ju
    @MM-se2ju Год назад

    How do you research about these topics?

  • @a84c1
    @a84c1 Год назад

    Im surprised that ieyasu didn't cut off hidetada after the sekigahara screwup.

    • @supersasukemaniac
      @supersasukemaniac Год назад +2

      At this point he had the luxury of not having too, all Hidetada did was upset Ieyasu, and Ieyasu gave him a second chance. Ieyasu's first son upset the Oda Clan, so to save himself, Ieyasu had to execute his own son.

  • @LuisLopez-zh9kh
    @LuisLopez-zh9kh Год назад +2

    Long story short: Hidetada reign happened - _-

  • @beepboop204
    @beepboop204 Год назад

  • @ThomasBarsegian-co3du
    @ThomasBarsegian-co3du Год назад +1

    Where's episode 3???

  • @Wake-up90
    @Wake-up90 Год назад

    BROOO U GOTTA DO HISTORY ON THE SŌ CLAN IK THEY SMALL AS HELL AND THEY GOT LIKE ZERO INFORMATION BUT CMON A SMALL CLAN NEEDS SOME INFO PLZZZZS

  • @MCorpReview
    @MCorpReview Год назад +1

    As the mongols say, time to get down that horse 🐴 and start ruling 😮r u gonna do the one about the dog 🐕 hating shogun 😅from 47 ronins? I’d assume 😊his older brother now a Yuki warlord would covet his throne which technically is rightfully his 😮

  • @sevenproxies4255
    @sevenproxies4255 Год назад +3

    The video makes me think of Shogun: Total War.
    You don't want to acquire Teppo ashigaru by dealing with Spain, because Spain demands you to christianize your provinces.
    The Dutch are better because they only care about profit and not religion 😄

  • @TeethToothman
    @TeethToothman Год назад

    "You can be a migraine worker or a cashier with dignity." Or a competent administrator!

  • @joaomanoel3197
    @joaomanoel3197 Год назад

    👍🏻👍🏻

  • @jamesyoung1167
    @jamesyoung1167 Год назад

    Same narrator as MindSmash ?

  • @jileel
    @jileel Год назад

    Yeah masanori didnt deserve that.

  • @PR0AC3
    @PR0AC3 Год назад

    Clickt faster than it appeared

  • @rickthomas6606
    @rickthomas6606 Год назад

    Sounds of bureaucracy🀄🎉🎼🎵

  • @TeethToothman
    @TeethToothman Год назад

    🌕⚓🌕

  • @brianpeck4035
    @brianpeck4035 Год назад +1

    Simply stating that Christianity had a negative effect on Japan is absurd. The effects must have been many, various and complicated. Not suggesting explaining it all but such an over simplification must be inaccurate and misleading.

    • @thepriestpucci4988
      @thepriestpucci4988 8 месяцев назад

      Probably not the religion itself but maybe the intentions of people from Christian Nations.

    • @TheMakoyou
      @TheMakoyou 5 месяцев назад

      It may have been diverse and complex, but if the Japanese had not been sold into slavery to Europe, the combined effect would have been much more. That was the main reason. Incidentally, a letter from a Portuguese missionary to the king was taken by Dutch pirates and brought to the general. It said, "It is easy to invade Japan." You should wish it had not been the missionary who wrote this letter. The Dutch did a good job.

  • @markusforsberg6741
    @markusforsberg6741 Год назад

    When will the next episode about Tokugawa Iemitsu be relesed.:)?

    • @TheShogunate
      @TheShogunate  Год назад

      Probably not for a little while, I got some other stuff on my slate to get through first!

    • @markusforsberg6741
      @markusforsberg6741 Год назад

      ​@@TheShogunateokey a little while is that 1 month.?

  • @markusforsberg6741
    @markusforsberg6741 Год назад

    When will the next episode about Tokugawa Iemitsu be relesed.:)?