Hi Tom i am a lx570 owner and it was sooo refreshing to read a honest unbiased opinion.First time i have watched you. I do prefer the sit tailgate and but i mainly tow van with ours and i think its superior tower then 200 ser because of a few features self levelling suspension best one. We love the car and as i am 75 dont know if i could justify a new one at my age but just might start buying lotto tickets cheers and keep up the no bull reports was a pleasure to watch Peter
like most vehicles these days, you'll need to pay a surplus on price and waiting period will be 6-12 months. Not the best time to buy any car. Even second hand car prices are over the roof.
Every time I look at the jamb and sill 7:15 I'm convinced this was designed for split tailgate to begin with.. They're square and straight up typical of those split gate to improve sealing
Great suggestion, because you have to wonder why both have to exist in the same market? If the Sahara ZX is supposed to be the 'urban luxury' land cruiser, then why have the Lx500d?? 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
@@kalomboC aside from petrol motor on the LX, not much more, you'd have to buy the F sport or sports luxury to be completely even in terms of features.
Agree that the older dash is better. Interesting about the rear seats. Being tall I didn’t like the sitting on gluteus maximumus like on the previous version. Uncomfortable for adults.
The LX 500d F Sport: is best option out of all of them it strikes the right balance will buy it only challenge will be the choice of colours to choose from White Nova or Kaki Green 🤔
I think all the LC300 and Lexus colours are crappy, I am thinking going to the dealer and asking for a custom colour seeing I may have to wait 18 months for one. XY GT Electric Blue or some other 70`s Muscle car Sporty colour for the Sport... I wonder how much extra that would be and how much extra for them to paint it a custom colour and how much not paint any other cars the colour I select.
@@chasingcars yes but not terms of category it’s in the midsize executive club. Same as BMW X5 and gle but just longer. Saying it’s a large suv is same as saying gle is rival to the Lexus,a full size SUV. Unless in Australia u categorise differently. Audi doesn’t have an lx rival. Only Benz with gls and bmw with x7
You mentioned that there is limited competition for this. I think there are a number of landrover models that are very competitive . Eg the Duscovery HSE, range rover sport. These offer better fuel economy, better handling, better towing capability.
Whilst I partially agree with you about this, the fact is those vehicles you mention just cannot compete with Lexus when it comes to Longevity. There’s a certain group of Lexus LX owners who keep their cars for longer than the 3-5 years & I simply wouldn’t be caught with any of the vehicles you mention after their warranty periods cease. The build quality of the Lexus is probably slightly higher as well, whilst it may not compete As well on the points that you raise.
I like the Land Rover but that don’t have the reliability and resale, Lexus not as football bling but I need a comfortable tow truck that will go to remote places in confidence 👍😉
Savagageese criticised the vehicle. I think the Lexus is still lagging behind for the tech used in the competitors. If you want a luxury SUV get an X5 or GLE. If you want a 4wd get a Land cruiser.
After seing the new Sequioa id prefer if it was available in asia, i dont like the design of the new landcruiser but the sequioa TRD pro looks brute force kind of design.
Both car pretty subjective. If I dont care about fuel consumption I would go for LX 570. I prefer LX 570 body and doors feel more solid than LX600. You will notice LX600 front bonnet wobble a bit when driving due to aluminium material. I do prefer steering feel and road drive on LX600.
Having owned a Lexus previously, I was excited when the LX500d was released. But It is now extremely poor value for money, which you couldn't say about the LX450d. To get similar features from the L300 Sahara ZX you need to get to F Sport or Sport Luxury spec. A very big jump in price! Lexus for me has always been about value for money (relatively) compared to the competition, this is no longer the case. IMHO the entry level model should come with features that are standard on the the LC300, not part of an enhancement pack. I have opted for a LC300 Sahara ZX, better value for money overall.
A bit off topic Tom. Have you ever damaged a car that youve had in for review?. Interested to hear of any stories ...be they your fault or otherwise :-)
Yeah, when you’re reviewing 200+ cars per year, small incidents happen. A rare bump or scrape in testing and of course, we’ve been knocked by careless other drivers a few times.
Lexus’ key differentiator used to be that it came fully specced standard Now you pay for myriad profit gouging options like the Germans and the value proposition has been eroded They still have the best quality and execution, but personally I hate that the pay the list price and drive off element has fallen victim to cynicism Rather raise the price honestly
Correction: Toyota went single tail gate for weight savings, not dust intrusion issues. None of the split tail gates have issues with dust intrusion - not sure where you got that.
7:10 that is not true, I have split tailgate in my 105 and I don’t have dust intrusion, the true reason they stop making them is to reduce manufacturing cost!
The Japanese have not been able to get anywhere near the engine performance of the European luxury 4WD - The Touareg VW produces 310 kW and 900 Nm of torque - consumption of 6.5 litres/100 km on the highway and 8.0 litres/100 km (combined) - the engineering built into the European drive trains is at another level.
900nm is very impressive. How do the transfer case and axles stand up to that? They must be built like a tank under there. My question is, why do you need that much power?
Toyota engines have always been understressed for a reason. Reliability. I have a 200 series and a BMW X5. Worst decision of my life buying the X5 and its timing chain disaster at 90k km, as well as all the plastic bits degrading and going sticky in the Australian sun. The Cruiser is now 14 and there is not 1 rattle or mishap.
@@amirhossainzadeh3951 No because I thought Defender was great, no need to buy a Range Rover in my opinion. Only issue is reliability compared to the Lexus/Landcruiser.
Have to disagree about a Q7 being better to drive … I’ve had a 2021 which I’ve just sold and I hated it .. awful car so difficult to use and there was nothing even slightly special about it . Driven the base petrol LX and it’s sensational. So comfortable so isolated from everything it leaves the Audi for dead ( and everything is so easy to use )
This one is a fantastic drive. I was highly impressed with it. Compared it with the 300 Series Sahara, & I thought the Lexus came out on top in many ways
Tom is being very diplomatic with his critique of the interior. That looks absolutely atrocious in the F Sport with the silver trim. Yuck! Looks like an American full size SUV/truck from the mid 2000s. The older LX having a more elegant interior is an understatement...
Im not one for the f sport interior here, I'd much prefer the wood grain options featured on other trims. But I don't mind the exterior styling on F sport.
@@mazdar100 Hmmmm, subjective. However, what is transparent & conclusive is the fact that you clicked on a video, knowing what it is, just to say that it’s “ugly” because you can’t afford one & have nothing else to do, keep saving little fella…..
Hi Tom
i am a lx570 owner and it was sooo refreshing to read a honest unbiased opinion.First time i have watched you. I do prefer the sit tailgate and but i mainly tow van with ours and i think its superior tower then 200 ser because of a few features self levelling suspension best one. We love the car and as i am 75 dont know if i could justify a new one at my age but just might start buying lotto tickets cheers and keep up the no bull reports was a pleasure to watch Peter
like most vehicles these days, you'll need to pay a surplus on price and waiting period will be 6-12 months. Not the best time to buy any car. Even second hand car prices are over the roof.
True, I just saw a listing of a used 2019 LC200 for $150k, lmao
Even longer wait for this, it's 18 months😬
USD (among others) is inflating, current demand compounds the issue. I don't think the prices are going to come back down sadly.
@@kylosolo6128 whot? US dollars? 🙄
@@vasya6175 no, AUD of course. Still that price tag is just absurd
Great review! Always a pleasure to watch your reviews Tom. Cheers🍻🍻
Thank you!
Great review, Tom. Nice to get your opinion on longevity!
A Diesel with a 7 seat option is something I'd go for. really looks great in white too. This review was great
Great video thank you
Every time I look at the jamb and sill 7:15 I'm convinced this was designed for split tailgate to begin with.. They're square and straight up typical of those split gate to improve sealing
Eh how come there are grab handles behind the second row? I guess they are there for the 3 row LX but it looks rather weird being there is all.
Great review .. Can you do a comparison video Sahara zx and Lexus lx 500d
Great suggestion, because you have to wonder why both have to exist in the same market? If the Sahara ZX is supposed to be the 'urban luxury' land cruiser, then why have the Lx500d?? 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
@@kalomboC aside from petrol motor on the LX, not much more, you'd have to buy the F sport or sports luxury to be completely even in terms of features.
Best suv to buy as car with all round qualities if your thinking to keep it long term as the quality of components is much higher than the German cars
Hi Tom, when you test the fuel consumption, are you going by the car computer or calculate from full tank to full tank distance
Usually by the car’s display but occasionally we do audit it and do the maths properly.
Very good!
Agree that the older dash is better.
Interesting about the rear seats. Being tall I didn’t like the sitting on gluteus maximumus like on the previous version. Uncomfortable for adults.
The LX 500d F Sport: is best option out of all of them it strikes the right balance will buy it only challenge will be the choice of colours to choose from White Nova or Kaki Green 🤔
I think all the LC300 and Lexus colours are crappy, I am thinking going to the dealer and asking for a custom colour seeing I may have to wait 18 months for one. XY GT Electric Blue or some other 70`s Muscle car Sporty colour for the Sport... I wonder how much extra that would be and how much extra for them to paint it a custom colour and how much not paint any other cars the colour I select.
correction. Audi doesn't have a full size SUV. The Q7 is midsize 3 ROW SUV. Not the same class as lx and land cruiser
No, the Q7 is a large SUV. It’s the same length as the LX…
@@chasingcars yes but not terms of category it’s in the midsize executive club. Same as BMW X5 and gle but just longer. Saying it’s a large suv is same as saying gle is rival to the Lexus,a full size SUV. Unless in Australia u categorise differently. Audi doesn’t have an lx rival. Only Benz with gls and bmw with x7
How does the LX600 (petrol) 7-seat stack up against a high spec Defender 110 SE/X HSE P400? Looks to be similar money, dynamics and your pref. Tom?
Dynamics? I've driven both (LC300) and immediately orded the Defender - what a car to drive!
Dynamics? I've driven both (LC300) and immediately orded the Defender - what a car to drive!
You mentioned that there is limited competition for this. I think there are a number of landrover models that are very competitive . Eg the Duscovery HSE, range rover sport.
These offer better fuel economy, better handling, better towing capability.
Whilst I partially agree with you about this, the fact is those vehicles you mention just cannot compete with Lexus when it comes to Longevity. There’s a certain group of Lexus LX owners who keep their cars for longer than the 3-5 years & I simply wouldn’t be caught with any of the vehicles you mention after their warranty periods cease. The build quality of the Lexus is probably slightly higher as well, whilst it may not compete
As well on the points that you raise.
I like the Land Rover but that don’t have the reliability and resale, Lexus not as football bling but I need a comfortable tow truck that will go to remote places in confidence 👍😉
Why doesn't it have a rear bumper it looks weird in the back
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Savagageese criticised the vehicle. I think the Lexus is still lagging behind for the tech used in the competitors.
If you want a luxury SUV get an X5 or GLE. If you want a 4wd get a Land cruiser.
Eh x5 owner here I wouldn’t really compare I mean you can’t take the x5 off road maybe more luxury but this is more of both worlds
Try and get 10 years out of a GLE. The Lexus will just keep working.
@@realjohnboxall You have to keep the lexus for 10 years.
I will keep GLE for 5 years before the warranty expires.
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After seing the new Sequioa id prefer if it was available in asia, i dont like the design of the new landcruiser but the sequioa TRD pro looks brute force kind of design.
Awesome interior. That is all.
If you were looking at a Sahara VX be crazy not to consider the LX
Yeah that’s my view too
@@chasingcars why...please explain
How much will you rate this (on the scale of 10) compared to lx 570
Both car pretty subjective. If I dont care about fuel consumption I would go for LX 570. I prefer LX 570 body and doors feel more solid than LX600. You will notice LX600 front bonnet wobble a bit when driving due to aluminium material. I do prefer steering feel and road drive on LX600.
Having owned a Lexus previously, I was excited when the LX500d was released.
But It is now extremely poor value for money, which you couldn't say about the LX450d.
To get similar features from the L300 Sahara ZX you need to get to F Sport or Sport Luxury spec. A very big jump in price!
Lexus for me has always been about value for money (relatively) compared to the competition, this is no longer the case.
IMHO the entry level model should come with features that are standard on the the LC300, not part of an enhancement pack.
I have opted for a LC300 Sahara ZX, better value for money overall.
Totally agree
LC300 1:Cheaper to services 2:better reselling value 3: heaps mods for off road.
White LX600 F sport but $188k??
A bit off topic Tom. Have you ever damaged a car that youve had in for review?. Interested to hear of any stories ...be they your fault or otherwise :-)
Yeah, when you’re reviewing 200+ cars per year, small incidents happen. A rare bump or scrape in testing and of course, we’ve been knocked by careless other drivers a few times.
My 2015 LX570 averages 25l/100km.
The fuel consumption is shocking. I once hit 35l/100km average consumption in one 1 week of city driving!
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Lexus’ key differentiator used to be that it came fully specced standard
Now you pay for myriad profit gouging options like the Germans and the value proposition has been eroded
They still have the best quality and execution, but personally I hate that the pay the list price and drive off element has fallen victim to cynicism
Rather raise the price honestly
Correction: Toyota went single tail gate for weight savings, not dust intrusion issues. None of the split tail gates have issues with dust intrusion - not sure where you got that.
From senior engineers on the Land Cruiser project
@@chasingcars pfft, what would they know 😉
@@rotoehu9266 fine dust does get through the rear door seals of a 200 series. It does on my VX.
The F sport has better bumper proportions compared to the GR sport
Am with you on the interior... I still prefer the older version....Not sure why but it had some presence
7:10 that is not true, I have split tailgate in my 105 and I don’t have dust intrusion, the true reason they stop making them is to reduce manufacturing cost!
The prices , wow ! $175,000 that’s crazy expensive .
The Japanese have not been able to get anywhere near the engine performance of the European luxury 4WD - The Touareg VW produces 310 kW and 900 Nm of torque - consumption of 6.5 litres/100 km on the highway and 8.0 litres/100 km (combined) - the engineering built into the European drive trains is at another level.
900nm is very impressive. How do the transfer case and axles stand up to that? They must be built like a tank under there. My question is, why do you need that much power?
Toyota engines have always been understressed for a reason. Reliability.
I have a 200 series and a BMW X5. Worst decision of my life buying the X5 and its timing chain disaster at 90k km, as well as all the plastic bits degrading and going sticky in the Australian sun.
The Cruiser is now 14 and there is not 1 rattle or mishap.
what a tank
It’s big.
Is it more quiet than a LC300?
I test drove both and it's only slightly better
@@amirhossainzadeh3951 I test drove LC300 and Land Rover Defender 110 on air suspension and found the Defender much quieter than the LC300.
@@billybob1511 have you tried the full size Range Rover, potentially a used one?
I thought it was noticeably quieter, especially the LX600 petrol because the engine is more refined.
@@amirhossainzadeh3951 No because I thought Defender was great, no need to buy a Range Rover in my opinion. Only issue is reliability compared to the Lexus/Landcruiser.
petrol all the way please
Have to disagree about a Q7 being better to drive … I’ve had a 2021 which I’ve just sold and I hated it .. awful car so difficult to use and there was nothing even slightly special about it . Driven the base petrol LX and it’s sensational. So comfortable so isolated from everything it leaves the Audi for dead ( and everything is so easy to use )
Will buy it 25years later with 20k$ I hope 😆
Sorry to read you can’t afford a new one.
25 years 35k
Thank You Almighty God I will buy one for myself
This one is a fantastic drive. I was highly impressed with it. Compared it with the 300 Series Sahara, & I thought the Lexus came out on top in many ways
Its an SUV. Never to see a muddy track
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200grand for a lexus.. jeezz 😅😱
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Tom is being very diplomatic with his critique of the interior. That looks absolutely atrocious in the F Sport with the silver trim. Yuck! Looks like an American full size SUV/truck from the mid 2000s. The older LX having a more elegant interior is an understatement...
Im not one for the f sport interior here, I'd much prefer the wood grain options featured on other trims. But I don't mind the exterior styling on F sport.
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Audi has nothing to compete against this. They don't have a high riding full sized SUV like a BMW X7 or Mercedes GLS.
Thats just too much for a lexus
And the award for the ugliest car on the planet, goes to.....
Only because you can’t afford one…..
@@craigdavid6668 ugly is ugly. 😝
@@mazdar100 Hmmmm, subjective.
However, what is transparent & conclusive is the fact that you clicked on a video, knowing what it is, just to say that it’s “ugly” because you can’t afford one & have nothing else to do, keep saving little fella…..
@@craigdavid6668 actually saw one in dark grey today and it didn’t look too bad. So might be just the white.
The new X7
Most of the human race does not own a car. This review means nothing to them.
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