Don't EVER ride the White Line, unless your dad tows you in
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- We got rained out during the Sedona trip, but had a few hours of dry trail and great weather on Sunday evening. Lars Romig and his son Ronin guided us on a ride through some of Sedona's local trails, where we learned about "risk management".
Lars Romig has ridden "The White Line" countless times by now. It's not REALLY a trail, and it wasn't built or designed to ride on. This rock formation has existed in some capacity for millions of years. Nobody recommends you ride the White Line, and that includes me.
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This was a pretty cool experience to be part of. Before you judge, consider some of the extremely dangerous things you do day to day that you're totally used to and think nothing of. Yes, the White Line is dangerous. Watch the clip I included of the bike tumbling down if you think it's all some kind of illusion. But there's a certain brand of person who craves these kinds of experiences, and we can only hope they partake in them as carefully and diligently as possible. Some of us may never understand their motivation, just like I'll never understand the knee-jerk hate. In any case, with the help of his dad, Ronin is building his own Instagram account with more traditional desert riding. Let's get him off to a good start! instagram.com/_mini_mongo/
Screw safety ima send it
Putting your life on the line for the sake of FUN is as stupid as it gets and is mimicked no where else in nature. If you're gonna risk your life it should be for something of real value. 🤙
@@ThunderWarrior77 puss
@@alexroge6495 purpose being???🤔
@@Gehajjs62727 haha. Risk for fun is stupid. I guess you know where you fall. I give my life everyday but for a real purpose.
“If you mess up that roll, it’s just like, a huge bummer” 😂
Loved the vid Seth!
Understatement of the year...and it's even bigger in person
It's stupid because it is unnecessarily dangerous. Otherwise, it's nothing. If there wasn't cliffs to fall off of and die on, nobody would care. Bike stuff, if it is dangerous, the danger should be inherent in what you're doing. Like flipping a bike is dangerous, but the danger is incidental.
You can make anything dangerous by forces outside what you are doing. Like you could put a bed in a place that if you fall off, you will die. That doesn't make sleeping dangerous.
Understatement of the year
Was just out there and decided it wasn't for me. It's even more impressive and daunting in person than video. 😎
Yeah, there are plenty of great riders who could absolutely do it but don't see the upside. Had I never ridden it before, and in light of dumb mistakes I've made recently, I don't think I'd ride it for the first time again, if that makes sense.
@@SethsBikeHacks Totally get what you mean, the White Line would win the award for the go pro effect.
It looked bad enough in the video lol
It looks steep in the video to me, so I can only imagine how steep it actually is in real life.
Lived in AZ for over 20 years. Normally I don't miss it but occasionally mountain biking makes me consider a visit.
Just got my new huffy mountain bike, thanks for the trail suggestion I'll have to ride it soon.
(Edit) btw guys this was a joke.
I'll be at your funeral
@@andymtb5714 me too
RIP in advance
Yeah you don't want to ride that, especially on this trail
I think this is going over some peoples head 😂
Seeing the bike fall down the side of the mountain at 0:30 made me cry inside! On a side note, luckily the rider didn't suffer the same fate
12 years old and already all the skills!
Great to see you out there, Rémy!
@@SethsBikeHacks Same! Next time with a bit more time.
RÉMY! Your my favorite
It's been amazing watching Ronin progress over the last few years. The future is bright.
I like that Seth's like "nahh I'm good" and I'm glad it's the best choice
Kudos to the kid he’s awsome and gonna be a great rider when he’s older.
Not always the case.
Seems like he already is…
This is impressive and fits somewhere between free solo climbing and C4/5 kayaking. 🤔. My frontal lobe is finally fully developed at 60 and this doesn’t need to be done. Well… maybe…
To compare this to free solo climbing is a bit much
Ronin is a student of mine right now. Such a cool kid and a stud on the bike! Good for him!
Nothing better than coming home from school and seeing a new berm peak video. Keep up the great content!
I have played a lot of rugby for 30+ years. Most wouldn't dare play it but I have been brought up to know and understand the risk.
Same goes for sailing and water sports in our family. We would push the boundaries of what is considered acceptable by those that don't know.
I'm relatively new into mountain biking and wouldn't dream of taking on this challenge but respect and appreciate anyone who is willing to take it on.
I just hit a small 4x4 road gap that has been sketching me out for weeks. I did look at it and walk away several times, but I followed a frend in and sent it, gosh it was good.
Nice vid as always Seth
Don't push your self to hard guys 😆
I just ran into an old timer who did this and said it was no big deal. The way he talked about it made it sound easy and he said he would do it again no problem. BTW this old timer was talking about riding mountain bikes since the 80's and just retired from working at a bike shop. But after watching this video there is no way I would leave the safety of chicken point. Maybe that old timer figured he has already done all he wanted to do in life and if he slipped off that line well, he had already accomplished all he wanted to do in his life. I still got a lot of stuff I want to accomplish in my life. And for me managing risk means staying off that white line.
I really miss this style of video, it’s a good change from all the trail building
Its nice to come back home and watch these videos even after my bike just got stolen this makes it better so keep up the good work Seth! You’re doing a great job
I was just watching the OG white line video the other day, so this sequel is fitting! 💪
Great video! I ridden some sketchy lines and broken a rib last year, so my perspective has changed a little. If there is only a 1% chance that you fail and you ride that line as often as they do, they are playing the odds game with high consequences. It's surprising to hear a father say that he trusts his son's judgement....oh yeah, the son's 12years old? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around that... Still great video and riding!
I’ve ridden the line well over one hundred times and I have also ridden with my son for 1000s of miles. I know from the armchair this sounds and looks reckless but not what it appears.
@@larsromig7243 Now I didn't insult you, while your in your arm chair. I just stated that it's surprising to hear that you trust you 12 year old's judgement. More power to you!
My stomach was churning watching them. Loved watching it and the risk management approach. Thanks for filming it
Dude I already thought that looked terrifying before that bike falling clip.. where the cliff just kept going.. and going.. and going
Awesome to see you doing trips again!!! My favorite type of video you do!
As a dad to 2 pretty adventurous boys, I love it! But the risk that I am concerned about managing is whether or not their mother would murder me if she found out about it.
After years, I can watch your videos again. I used to copy lot of your styles. And learned lots of things from you. It's such a pleasure to see you.
I've been watching your RUclips channel since your channel name is "Seth Bike Hacks". I'm a huge fan of you❤💎
I've got cold sweats just watching the vid. Super respect for the skill needed to tackle something like that!
Yo there is no way this kid 12 he looks older than me like 16 😂
Btw love the Vids Seth 🙌
Yeah, his voice is way too ‘manly’ and deep, and his body and face is too grown and old. Could just be the clothes and equipment playing a trick in front of the camera, but I would sure guess his age between 17 and 21.
Yea, I’m 16 and he looks older than me
I honestly don't get it the hype of the white line. I mean only in that it just doesn't seem fun. It's not technical, its slow, and ultimately just an off camber ledge with a death sentence on one side. I just don't get the hype outside of Instagram and social media clout. Like Seth said...you do not get any rewards for riding white line.
I can agree on that
Couldn’t agree more! Simply a stupid thing to ride, no fun, just thrills.
“..while filming them from chicken point”. Aww mannnn! That’s going on a tshirt. Hahah! 🤣
"You mess up that roll and it's just a big bummer."😂😂😂
Who was that guy in the short vid, also my friend went to Sedona and said he meet you and i was stuck at home with the vid the day before, we planed to go together wish i could have been there, thank you for making my day and encouraging me with your videos to make me do better, much love keep the awesomeness going.🤟🏻
Super Sweet Video! It's cool to hear you made it out to Az. I didn't know there was a festival in Sedona, I'll have to check it out next time.
Lets go! I’ve been missing the trail videos, thank you for uploading!
I watched the other white line video 3 or 4 years ago and that was the first video I ever watched of yours
😂🤣“That’s just a huge bummer!” Nice work Seth!! Now that the border’s open, can’t to travel and go shoot videos with my American cousins!
I haven't watched this since 2020 and it's still bussin
Just moved from Michigan to this area. Awesome trails everywhere here. Thanks for the videos!
It would be cool if you did a Berm Peak express video explaining your process coming up with, executing, and editing videos. I and others I’m sure would be super interested in that!
Omg Seth posted a video The Return Of The King!
I'm the 5000th's like. Always been wanting to see it switch over when it is in the bigger numbers.
I really enjoyed this one, has a documentary feel to it, thanks a lot for this one
Yeah that's one of those things that I just know I'll never do. Over the years I've crashed on some pretty stupid trail features from fatigue or mental mistakes, for me it just isn't worth the risk, especially for clicks on my channel. Nope.
Not for clicks not even planned. Porter Seth and I happened to be riding. Porter wanted to show his kids the line and Ronin wanted to go again. Just happened that Seth was grabbing media and decided to make a video out of it.
Damn, that kid definitely has the skill and confidence to do that line, wouldn't catch me in a million years give it a go.
@Eric Porter, you've got some 'splaining to do and lots of videos owed :-) Digging Milo's & Owens new bikes, expecting to see a full run down on it and the Sedona festival shortly.
Editing now, sorry for the delay!!!
@@PorterMTB You are an irresponsible father.
Waiting patiently :-D
Stoked for getting all my boys on the trails
Absolute control and confidence
Love the videos seth!
I always thought I had great risk management… still ended up with multiple TBIs, reconstructed hips, one complete shoulder reconstruction , lacerated larynx, 2 ruptured disks and 2 bulged disks in my spine, feet and ankles that are fusing from bone spurs caused by impact and the arthritis of a 90 yr old when I hit 30. Granted most of these were from snowboarding it’s a similar sport in many ways. Can’t always predict the outcome of a sport that requires pushing the boundary for progress. Hopefully I can talk more sense into my child. Nothing wrong with these sports and still love them but doesn’t seem worth your life to me.
I feel you bro.
C6/7 incomplete quadriplegic... I hear you.... BUT... did an adaptive Mountain bike black diamond run today. Most time you manage the risk but there are those days where it manages you.
@@cjapps82 awesome to hear stuff like this! Get out and ride!
I think I have pretty high risk avoidance but it's probably because I played a lot of physical sports and got inured in my teens. Knees, back, shoulders, etc. I have to manage pain daily and got into mountain biking and skiing in college and early 20s. I think I just know how messed up my body is already and avoid some of the crazy stuff.
So crazy to ride that line 😅
Seth, your videos are awesome, really enjoy your content, would love to see you do an extremely in depth video aimed at beginners who are wanting to service their own bike.
Fingers crossed….
Please do more flip bike vids too !!!!
He already has a TOOOOOON of content made towards servicing a bike, and there are also lots of other channels who live to teach the stuff.
These videos make my day ❤️
Hi Berm Peak I love watching your RUclips channel. From the Philippines.👍
First time i see you ride on the new bike
Imagine getting your shoe lace caught
While riding the white line 😳
Kid using PitViper's... I LOVE IT
Been watching you since you installed the dropper post on your treck in Florida, great videos.
Takes a lot of skill and confidence
Good video. I understand that Berm Peak videos take a long time to to produce. I don’t understand how a 7 minute video makes it onto the main channel when you Seth, the channel host didn’t even ride the trail and already made a video about this line. I would much rather watch you cleaning out a storage unit, updating us on your garage or a vlog of the whole Sedona trip. Especially when we get about 2 videos a month. I do really enjoy your videos and realize this content is free. No hate just some honest criticism from my opinion.
What a cool dad and kid
I was in one of the pink jeeps and thought that it was ridiculous when our guide said people ride their bikes across that
white line can be the widow maker
that one level in every videogame that tests your mastery of movement be like:
I've contemplated it more than a few times, but then seeing it in person I'm just like "yea nah."
An experienced rider towing his 12 year old? I think that’s AWESOME. Would I want my son (don’t actually have kids) to die on a mountain bike ride? No. But would I want to teach him to assess his own abilities and limitations and to prudently calculate risks? Absolutely YES! I’m German and us Germans are probably the worst safety freaks in the world. Humanity doesn’t thrive on a risk-less environment. My two cents anyway.
Btw: Best Berm Peak video in months IMO! =)
A few weeks back i heard some one say, allow your kids to do dangerous stuff safely. So dont tell them to not do it, they will end up doing it anyways, rather teach them how to do what ever it is in a safe way. This is one of those times.
Spot on!!! I knew he would go after it anyway and I would much rather show him all the details of it.
Watching mountain bike videos when mine is broken 😖
Good to see you back on the bike
This is like doing the Taki One Chip Challenge, except there is no pain. It looks easy other than your won fear.
whats that kid gonna be doing in 10 years, thats a scary challenge he just did, thanks man
Great video. Sedona looks fun
literally death and sadness:
seth: thats a bummer
Ronin is only 12?! He looks no younger than at least 16.
Ya
Ooooweeeiiiiieee that's one spooky slab !
Seth rode the white line again, this is history
I got sweaty palms just watching this 😁
Yeah I'll go ahead and pass on trying something like that. I'm nowhere near confident enough for that trail. Props to anyone who does it.
I miss these videos
Honestly I am quit happy that I don't have the chance to do it because if I'd have it i would freek out over it because I would want to ride it so bad just for the sake of it but I would be scared af. Luckily I don't have the chance so I don't need to freak out. Respect to everyone riding this!
I’ve been to Sedona the scenery is absolutely amazing
wow that looks extremely dangerous
It is
I met a local out there in Sedona, and he told me about the white line plus. It’s as the name suggests it’s the white line plus a little extra. I think there’s a video of it. The guy I met name was Simon bosman.
Great attitude to risk and challenge...
"its just a huge bummer" he says lmfaoooooo
Skilled young dude.
While not Sedona, we went Moab on Tuesday. Was a blast but we didn't do anything spectacular other than dissuade a young lady from trying the North 40 on a gravel bike 🤷♂️. Showed her where the green trails were and then we road North 40 to Maverick among other things. By the way, Maverick was way too short. Can't wait till Phil's World in SW Colorado is ridable again.
The dad just casually doing an euro endo on top of a cliff XD
Thought the same thing. Quite the place to bust out the endo!
I miss these style of videos on this channel.
so it was a little secret between Ronin and Lars, now his mother is gonna find out... thanks Seth, RIP Lars
Just Left Sedona before the storm hit, was bummed out we had to drive back early.
💯 on the risk assessment POV!
Scary but cool, but I still wouldn't do it! Also, @seth- listened to your Pinkbike podcast interview- it was awesome! Thanks for that!
My son and I”s goal in a few years is to build a mountain bike trail park with a campground. You should make one and give us tips.🍻
Wow this is early
If you haven't been there and walked the line, you can't even begin to appreciate how hard this is.
this is stupid not hard
That White Line Looks Extremely Dangerous!
Late 90's Discovery Channel musical choice.
Seth, you should make a video on things beginners should know about fixing bikes.
You're already passing along your knowledge Seth; we're all your "kids" and admirers and appreciate your insights and teachings.
I'd never seen that clip of someone's bike plummeting off of the white line. I didn't realize it was that high and steep!
Anyway, I'll never ride it, but I'd probably walk out there...maybe.
That's sick! 😵
Hi you are my favourite RUclipsr
Hey seth, can you do a glove review? From cheap, to expensive, from fingerless, to full gloves. Basically a guide for beginners that need gloves.