The duel of wit has begun, Valrak replying to the insults hurled at him from the Australian Major Kill. So the opening salvo has been fired.... We hunker down in our trench waiting for the return shots from Australia.... Valrak.... The Drama Lahma! VS Major Kill (who incidentally appears to have taken the lead in male personal hygiene)
To be fair, Iron hands saw more action on the table top just a few editions ago than Imperial fists has seen in decades. And both Black Templars and the Crimson fists have been used as both front and mid pages in their respective editions, while their parent legion has been nearly as absent in the current lore as the White scars and Raven guard. I think it's a very relevant question to ask why the Imperial Fists hasn't seen much action in the 40th millennium, despite being some of the greatest heroes during the Horus Heresy.
As an imperial fist, he’s unfortunately right. The IF have been relegated to a whipping boy to demonstrate how dangerous an enemy is, or how much more competent another chapter is. Our chapter culture and heritage have been destroyed by the codex and the complete annihilation of the chapter on Ardamantua (completely contrived situation btw). The IF are now just ultramarines in yellow; a sad, disgusting fate that has been met by many chapters. Not to mention the influx of Cawl’s toy solders, further diluting any remaining character the chapter had. We have fallen from greatest of legions, the emperor’s right hand, to a chapter barely worth mentioning. 😔
The primaris I argue would add life to the Fists. The problem is giving them flavor. Giving them more of a solid base as opposed to multiple influences. Really double down on the Teuton influence or Germanic influence since they use Huscarl as a name for elites. Give us back Teuton helms, Germania armor pieces, unique IF units, unique Gravis armor pieces. This idea that the primaris just erases the identity is only the case if we allow it to be. Give them flavor, give them iconography, give them the Huscarl, let us field our chapter master, give us unique Gravis soldiers and unique Gravis weapons. Give Tor Garadon useful abilities that extend to the rest of the squad besides ignore cover. Maybe buff his power fist to ap 3 and damage 3 or something. I'm just saying there's ways to fix this with the Primaris. Especially since they're technically the only pure IF Geneseed we have left.
"The Imperial Fists were never wiped out myeh myeh gene seed myeh myeh flagship." Yeah but how many marines did they have? Are mammoths "not really extinct" because they could still be cloned?
Not a Majorkill fanboy but a buddy is right actually 😊. Imperial fists have their days of glory and now it's time for other space marines chapters to shine. Sorry master Valrak not everyone loves Imperial fists.
Iron Hands are more relevant then the Imperial Fists. iron hand chapters are more out fighting and are getting more support from the Admech then any other chapters. Major Kill is right, except when he calls Iron Hands irrelevant.
Pointless beef aside, was it really necessary for Major &Valrak to piss on us Iron Hands fans by reminding us how irrelevant we and our 7-9 named chapters are?
@@ChapterMasterValrak Y'all are blind loyalist dogs... Better to embrace damnation than serve a hypocritical corpse-god who failed at every turn. That's right, I said it. Send your astartes and Inquisitors... Chaos awaits.
Majorkill makes this video purposely to provoke Valrak, so he will be lured into the trap laid by Majorkill. Just like how Perturabo and the Iron Warriors trapped Dorn and DESTROYED the Imperial Fists in the Iron Cage. Of course Valrak is going to fall for it, just like how any thick headed sons of Dorn will.
I mean, ultimately, ravenguard, salamanders, white scars, AND Imperial Fists really, reeeeally need a line refresh... and actual special rules that don't suck, like, "you can break buildings!" Or WTF ever..!
my inner iron warrior is satiated and satisfied from the amount of salt from this video. XD Jokes aside great response video Chapter master of the imperial fist o7
Oh thank god, I thought that two legends in the community were actually mad at each other...also imperial fists are shooting up entire sectors, majorkill missed on this
Loved? Dunnoh. Trusted? Yes, they are the first, the decimated the thunder warriors alongside the custodes and many has served directly under the emperor prior to lions appearance
@@coletrain6545 against the usual stuff sure, but don’t forget that there were various xenos species that were so dangerous that no record of them exists due to us exterminating them. Those kinds of things would warrant the need for DAOT weapons.
Are imperial fists really imperial fists, thought they used geneseed from successors after war of the beast so how are they still a first founding chapter, aren't they deviations from the original. I can see Valrak fuming but its a fact the original fists died in war of the beast
I mean, if you took the Imperial Fists away from the setting right now. It would make no difference to the Imperium, probably wouldnt even know they were gone..
MajorKill: *Disrespects the Imperial Fists* Chapter Master Valrak: *Angrily wakes up the dormant Imperial Fist Dreadnought* Honored Brother, join us in purging this Heretic! Imperial Fist Dreadnought: *LEAD ME TO THE SLAUGHTER!*
If the Imperial Fists are so important, then why did they allow a bunch of Corrupt High Lords of Terra take over? Guilliman saved the Imperium, Like it or not but the Ultramarines are what the Imperial Fists were during the Horus Heresy.
CHARITY BOXING MATCH! FIGHT ME, COWARD!
Also, all this is banter, don’t take it seriously 😂
You going down under? Nice holiday tax write off…
Then you two play Space Marine 2 together?
Well, probably helps that Major has trimmed there with his Manscaped, especially if Valrak is going down under 😂
Gift aid, just saying 😅
Who gets to be Butterbean?
We got Valrak becoming Horus before GTA 6
Now the question which side will you choose ?
@ I’m with the French 🇫🇷 aka the dropout kids🤣
LMAO 🤣🤣
The Valrak Heresy
Majorkill: *says Imperial Fists ain't cool*
Valrak: "It's treason then."
Imagine being one of the 3 Iron Hands and catching a stray out of nowhere.
It's me, im one of them 🥲🥲
my thoughts exactly lol
@@Professional.AmericanI’m one of the other 2, the flesh is weak brother, but we still feel :(
I feel attacked lol
I do too 😢
I didn't realize just how washed the the Imperial Fists were
@@GameRiot You didn’t even turn up for my bday! Betrayer!
@@ChapterMasterValrakultramarines dark angels grey knights 😂😂
THIS COMMENT IS HERESY
Imperial Fists, White Scars and Iron Hands are treated so bad by GW you would think they are Eldar.
We all knew this was coming as soon as MajorKill uploaded hahah
Settle it like gentlemen.
A 2000pts game of 40k.
Preferably 9th edition.
8th Edition.
ALL EDITIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY!! LET IT BE WAR!! LET THE GALAXY BURN!!
@@ChapterMasterValrak 6th
5th edition - the best
@@tikhonoldwood3800 The realest comment right here. 7-9 were garbage, while 5th was peak.
So this is how the Dornian Heresy starts, an angry Chapter Master named Valrak.
Valrak is next Erebus #spicy
The duel of wit has begun,
Valrak replying to the insults hurled at him from the Australian Major Kill.
So the opening salvo has been fired....
We hunker down in our trench waiting for the return shots from Australia....
Valrak.... The Drama Lahma!
VS
Major Kill (who incidentally appears to have taken the lead in male personal hygiene)
Val mate if i made a drinking game for each time you said "technically" i would be in a coma
Technicleigh.
Majorkill: " imperial fist? ,more like imperial shits lol"
Chad master valrak: "custodes more like shitstodes!"
Majorkill and his custodes go to war with valrak and his imperial fist
Valrak hasn't won a game since 8th ed executor cheese😂
I’m pretty sure MK plays Custods
@@304dalf2 didn’t he recently in a livestream paint an entire army of blood angels?
Black Templars as the ref. 😂 the eternal fight.
Dark Angels...
"I was something beyond furious." - Valrak probably
He's usual calm has been compromised
Havent seen a Daughter of Dorne cope this hard since THE CAGE
Iron within,
Daughter of Dorn😂😂 that’s a good one
Perty is that you!? Get off your alt and come back to the setting already!
The Daughters of Dorn still beat the Iron Warriors with both hands behind their backs and eyes closed.
“TECHNICALLY” sums up the video
Major FACTS! IRON WITHIN!
Iron without brother
From Iron cometh strength, from strength cometh will,from Will Cometh faith,From Faith Cometh Honour, From Honour Cometh Iron
And may it forever be so
@@loreman2803 from Iron cometh Tetnis
Iron warrior baby, we are the best 🎉
The cope from Scamrak is unbelievable, he hates how right Majorkill is
To be fair, Iron hands saw more action on the table top just a few editions ago than Imperial fists has seen in decades. And both Black Templars and the Crimson fists have been used as both front and mid pages in their respective editions, while their parent legion has been nearly as absent in the current lore as the White scars and Raven guard.
I think it's a very relevant question to ask why the Imperial Fists hasn't seen much action in the 40th millennium, despite being some of the greatest heroes during the Horus Heresy.
GW Doesn't want to pay for the yellow ink to put them on paper.
As a Ravenguard; I have no skin in this game.
Have fun.
I was there…. I was there the day Majorkill slew valraks monetisation
23 minute reaction video to a 9 min video.
On boy…
“Completely irrelevant and borderline useless” - we’ve been saying that to valrak for years lol
"I'm not coping!!" - certainly not!
Yellow is but a pale imitation of gold
As an imperial fist, he’s unfortunately right. The IF have been relegated to a whipping boy to demonstrate how dangerous an enemy is, or how much more competent another chapter is. Our chapter culture and heritage have been destroyed by the codex and the complete annihilation of the chapter on Ardamantua (completely contrived situation btw). The IF are now just ultramarines in yellow; a sad, disgusting fate that has been met by many chapters. Not to mention the influx of Cawl’s toy solders, further diluting any remaining character the chapter had. We have fallen from greatest of legions, the emperor’s right hand, to a chapter barely worth mentioning. 😔
So IF are the Avatar of Khaine of Imperium
The primaris I argue would add life to the Fists. The problem is giving them flavor. Giving them more of a solid base as opposed to multiple influences. Really double down on the Teuton influence or Germanic influence since they use Huscarl as a name for elites. Give us back Teuton helms, Germania armor pieces, unique IF units, unique Gravis armor pieces. This idea that the primaris just erases the identity is only the case if we allow it to be. Give them flavor, give them iconography, give them the Huscarl, let us field our chapter master, give us unique Gravis soldiers and unique Gravis weapons. Give Tor Garadon useful abilities that extend to the rest of the squad besides ignore cover. Maybe buff his power fist to ap 3 and damage 3 or something. I'm just saying there's ways to fix this with the Primaris. Especially since they're technically the only pure IF Geneseed we have left.
Except without the good stats.
What culture and heritage, Building sandcastles?
Now, you must trash his favourite faction as counterattack.
Well the Soul Drinkers do have a lot of wide open goals. Especially as the new Primaris Chapter is just as corrupted as the old one.
You didn't know Majorlill is James Workshop? He owns the rights to it all.
Valrak is salty because he didn't allowed to unleashed his iron within before Majorkill
"The Imperial Fists were never wiped out myeh myeh gene seed myeh myeh flagship."
Yeah but how many marines did they have? Are mammoths "not really extinct" because they could still be cloned?
That “kangaroo” was just weapons grade pettiness 🤣
Have you heard of the "emu war"?
Not a Majorkill fanboy but a buddy is right actually 😊. Imperial fists have their days of glory and now it's time for other space marines chapters to shine. Sorry master Valrak not everyone loves Imperial fists.
TRAITOR
Imperial fists are without a doubt on the back burner. The crimson fists and black templars have superceded their parent legion 🤷♂️
He has entered ANGRY BRIT MODE
It's worse than that, he's entered "Angry Northerner" mode.
"I'm not coping" - haha
Every time denying The Iron Cage... Every f...ng time... Perturabo has an apartment in Valraks head!
Valrak's mask is off, this rage does not belong to a Imperial Fist, he's secretly been a Black Templar all along!
Stopping Horus is an interesting way to say you let the Emperor die
Iron Hands are more relevant then the Imperial Fists.
iron hand chapters are more out fighting and are getting more support from the Admech then any other chapters.
Major Kill is right, except when he calls Iron Hands irrelevant.
For the Chapter, For the Phalanx, For Valrak, For Dorn, & FOR THE EMPOROR!!!
Pointless beef aside, was it really necessary for Major &Valrak to piss on us Iron Hands fans by reminding us how irrelevant we and our 7-9 named chapters are?
You need to know your place
@@ChapterMasterValrak Y'all are blind loyalist dogs... Better to embrace damnation than serve a hypocritical corpse-god who failed at every turn.
That's right, I said it. Send your astartes and Inquisitors... Chaos awaits.
At least their not emperor children fans
iron WHO NEVER HERD OF EM must be new lore lol
Imperial Fists dont do shit. I agree with Majorkill.
More like Imperials Sits, amirite?
Oh no, not the Imperial Wrists. 🤣🤣🤣
And lastly, do not compare them to Iron Hands, they are getting a new model xD
Majorkill makes this video purposely to provoke Valrak, so he will be lured into the trap laid by Majorkill. Just like how Perturabo and the Iron Warriors trapped Dorn and DESTROYED the Imperial Fists in the Iron Cage. Of course Valrak is going to fall for it, just like how any thick headed sons of Dorn will.
But but well established lore that makes Imperial Fists look bad is chaos propaganda /s Valrak was grasping at straws the entire video
Imperial Fists have 3 special characters. Tor Garadon, Lysander, and Tor Garadon's chin.
Don’t forget Dorns severed hand
I mean, ultimately, ravenguard, salamanders, white scars, AND Imperial Fists really, reeeeally need a line refresh... and actual special rules that don't suck, like, "you can break buildings!" Or WTF ever..!
And more lore!
Here I thought he said smth controversial.
'We dont know the ins and outs of the iron cage'. A lot of imperial fists went in, not so many came out. You're welcome
my inner iron warrior is satiated and satisfied from the amount of salt from this video. XD
Jokes aside great response video Chapter master of the imperial fist o7
Iron within Iron without
Oh thank god, I thought that two legends in the community were actually mad at each other...also imperial fists are shooting up entire sectors, majorkill missed on this
Wasn't the Emperor's most trusted and loved legion the Dark Angels?
Loved? Dunnoh. Trusted? Yes, they are the first, the decimated the thunder warriors alongside the custodes and many has served directly under the emperor prior to lions appearance
@grom778 that belongs to leman russ and the space wolves. Having problems with a legion/primarch? Send the wolves
@@coletrain6545and yet, they weren’t the ones the Emperor trusted enough to give Dark Age weapons
@@ShadowGhost0117 still cleaned house anyway, apparently didn't need them
@@coletrain6545 against the usual stuff sure, but don’t forget that there were various xenos species that were so dangerous that no record of them exists due to us exterminating them. Those kinds of things would warrant the need for DAOT weapons.
so this is what 10.000 years of coping looks like XD
Lmao majorkills not wrong all the "founding chapters are on the backburner"
Are imperial fists really imperial fists, thought they used geneseed from successors after war of the beast so how are they still a first founding chapter, aren't they deviations from the original.
I can see Valrak fuming but its a fact the original fists died in war of the beast
The Cope is real, Imperial Fist is now a successor chapter after the war of the beast and can no longer be called a founding legion.
The real hero’s that saved Terra were the iron warriors that left before finishing the job lol
20 seconds in and he's already pissed in your cornflakes LOL.
I believe that is Heresy! (BTW: My Fav are Iron Fists as well. I have the Joy Toy figure of Rogal Dorn and it is indeed GLORIOUS!)
Majorkill disses The Sons of Dorn
Valrak 2 mins into the video: I kinda agree.
ROFL
I mean, if you took the Imperial Fists away from the setting right now. It would make no difference to the Imperium, probably wouldnt even know they were gone..
15:40 At least us Raven Guard have our Chapter Master in model form and he actively participate in conflicts.
I'm surprised he didn't demonstrate his manscaping.
I see Valrak is coping hard
MajorKill: *Disrespects the Imperial Fists*
Chapter Master Valrak: *Angrily wakes up the dormant Imperial Fist Dreadnought* Honored Brother, join us in purging this Heretic!
Imperial Fist Dreadnought: *LEAD ME TO THE SLAUGHTER!*
I came to see this reaction for a laugh, and bro is actually, legitimately angry. I thought the Praetorians of Terra had thicker skin that this 😂
Well, MajorKill has one good point... the Imperial Fists -need- deserve more unique models.
New warhammer series announced - 7 minute video, somebody insults Imperial Fists - 25 minutes of pure rage. I am here for it!
Iron Warriors are in more Books past 8th ed than Imperial Fists
As an Iron Hands fan, I feel this is karma for all the head jokes you've made over the years 😂
Meanwhile me as a Iron Hands fan:
- It's so fun to watch this weaklings fight among each other.
All three IF fans absolutely shattered
As a chaos space marine player watching the loyalist fight brings much amusement
Valkar, the only thing i have to say to you is "Iron within and Iron without".
Cope, my boy.
SIEGE.
We need a “Technically” counter on the screen for this vid
Technically, the chapter wasn't wiped out...just suffering the minor inconvenience of everyone being dead
time for a WAAAAAG- i mean CRUSADE!
The Salamanders need
Our Chapter Master as a Model.
As much as I love Imperial Fists & Crimson Fists…..MK kinda has a point 😅
I mean, Majorkill wasn't wrong... What have the Imperial Fists actually done after the Horus Heresy...
They almost got wiped out. Their most well known achievement
Imperial Fists got wrecked twice now. Once by the Beast and once by Majorkill
i liked it, when the little chubby guy started huffing and puffing
Is this the start of the Valrakian Heresy? 😂
19:18 you right, iron hands are better than the yellow bellies
This is the RUclips “drama” I’m here for
6:26 Shillrak came out for a sec😂😂
I came for the Tea and Drama but stayed for the Trigger Fest
"I'm not coping!" Valrak yells, copingly.
Blood Aussies, stealing our hobbies and saying these fighting words!
Let’s put them back where they belong! In Prison!
@@ChapterMasterValrak Hope you are successful in your vengeance against the iron warriors brother 🫡
@@ChapterMasterValrakEeek...time to make my escape into the Eye of Terror methinks
This is going to be the biggest tabletop fight of 2024 or early 2025
without the imperial fists we wouldn't have a corpse sitting on the throne...
The Valrak Heresy Begins..
Phalanx is figthing .. achieving nothing .. xD
Majorkill: The Imperial Fists are irrelevant.
Imperial Fists: Noooo.
If Bumblebees are his favourite sons, why they're not called "Emperor's Sons" or something, hmmmm?
I mean he’s not wrong… Imperial Fists didn’t even exist at one point whilst most of the others did.
If the Iron Hands were present at the Battle of Cadia, then Cadia wouldn't have fallen. There's a reason why Abaddon sent a fleet to Medusa.
Of course they are relevant. Without them, how will people know the history of their much superior Successor Chapter, the Black Templars.
Finally, the hit sequel we never knew we needed, the Majorkill Heresy.
Imagine being called worse than Iron Hands, no wonder Valrak is mad! 😅
If Majorkill fans could stop eating crayons long enough to do something, you'd be in trouble.
If the Imperial Fists are so important, then why did they allow a bunch of Corrupt High Lords of Terra take over?
Guilliman saved the Imperium, Like it or not but the Ultramarines are what the Imperial Fists were during the Horus Heresy.
Tushans never had a model. They have Vulkan He'stan who is a different character...