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Parramatta Light Rail Update Part 2 - Tramway Avenue to Prince Alfred Square via Parramatta CBD
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
- This is the second of three Parramatta Light Rail update videos. it covers the Green Track section along George Street and Harris Street, along with the Robin Thomas, Parramatta Square, Church Street and Prince Alfred Square Stops.
If you missed the first video, which covered Carlingford to Tramway Avenue, then here is a link to it. - • Parramatta Light Rail ...
This video was filmed on 28 August 2022, and also includes some flashbacks to my previous update video from February 2022, so you can compare the progress.
I cover the Green Track section in some depth, including the type of grass, how Green Track sections are constructed (in 7 easy steps!) and how it can positively influence the local climate.
I'll also cover the new traffic signals and reveal the sections that are trams only, and those that are shared with other vehicles.
You'll see the completed double crossover which is just west of the Parramatta Square stop. And whilst in the Parramatta CBD, I'll show you some glimpses of the Sydney Metro Construction site for the new Parramatta Metro station.
I cover the Church Street stop, which is the first stop on the street running section to get platform canopies.
It's then over the Lennox Bridge, with glimpses of the new Powerhouse Museum construction site, before being greeted with overhead wire structures on the approach to the Prince Alfred Square Stop.
Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
0:15 Tramway Avenue Green Track Section
0:36 George Street and Alfred Street Intersection
1:11 George Street (Alfred Street to Purchase Street)
2:27 George Street Green Track Section
4:41 Harris Street Green Track Section
6:13 Robin Thomas stop
6:55 Macquarie Street (to Smith Street intersection)
9:20 Smith Street intersection
10:08 Parramatta Square Stop and double crossover
11:39 Macquarie Street (CBD section)
13:06 Church Street (to George Street)
13:44 George Street detour
14:04 Church Street stop
15:12 Church Street (Eat Street section)
15:56 Lennox Bridge
16:42 Church Street (Novotel and Market Street Intersection)
18:18 Return of Overhead wire structures
18:40 Prince Alfred Square stop
Related Videos
Carlingford to Tramway Avenue (Part 1 - August 2022 Parramatta Light Rail Update) - • Parramatta Light Rail ...
Westmead to Tramway Avenue (Feb 2022 Parramatta Light Rail Update) - • Parramatta Light Rail ...
Westmead to Camellia (Spring 2021 Parramatta Light Rail Update • Parramatta Light Rail ...
Parramatta Light Rail Playlist (includes all update videos) - • Parramatta Light Rail
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Awesome! Years ago we had to rely on govt agency videos for info and visuals of infrastructure but good to see private citizens producing such content. Light rail will help pedestrianise the place. CBD light rail was a headache during construction but in hindsight its made the city nicer and its used quite heavily. Hard to imagine city now if George St was still being used by cars.
Hi Rohan, yes technology has made it much easier for anyone to make high quality videos now. Yes the CBD light rail is quite popular now, and George Street is very pleasant to walk along.
This is looking very good, and truly makes Parra look like the second CBD that we've been talking about for a while now! I'm looking forward to taking a ride on this when its done.
Yes it certainly is, and it's definitely what Parramatta needs!
There were used to be 36 Caf urbos 3 Units in total from Tram 12 to 28 with 13 skipped in Sydney. 51 to 56 in Newcastle. and 61 to 73 in Parramatta. When the Alstom Citadis Started Testing on the L1 in January 2022. They were Testing to Replace the Caf Fleet. Units 61 to 73 were Withdrawn and they were Converted to Built The Caf Urbos 100 from Units 1 to 13.
Another great video, those green tracks do look really nice when they've come up nice and lush. Interesting about the choice of grass too, slow growing and accustomed to the climate make for a very sensible pick.
Thanks! yes the grass does look good! Two types of grass were trialled in Rosehill and this one was chosen out of the two.
Thank you Paul for the amazing and very detailed update. Very much appreciated. On my next trip to Sydney I have a lot to see. Thank you for the hard work and effort you put in. Well done.
You're very welcome Anthony, Hope you make it back to Sydney again soon!
Love the green tracks!
Hi Paul, thank you very much for the update, I want to travel down to Sydney for the first running of the new Carlingford light Rail. I am living In Orange now. thank you again. Douglas Brooks.
Hi Douglas, you're very welcome! Yes hopefully, I'll get to meet you on the day it opens! As you live in Orange, you may want to check out Talking Planning by Thomas who now lives in Orange. Here is the channel link - www.youtube.com/@TalkingPlanning
Great production, highly informative.
You're very welcome Geoff. Glad you enjoyed it!
Great stuff. Thanks Paul.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Another excellent post. I did have a walk along the sections you should today and it's nice to see it's 80% finished.
Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it and good to hear that you had a walk along this section too.
Thanks, Paul, for a great update. I also appreciate e the explanation of the asphalt in the tram tracks to protect them. I had wondered about that.
You're very welcome Geoff. Once the asphalt disappears, we will know that tram testing will be due to start!
Thanks for covering it in such detail👍
My pleasure 😊
Really loved this video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the video. I've not been out there since 2018.
RTS = (tram) Ready To Start. At these locations closer to platforms the tram driver is required to press a button (when tram is ready to depart) in the cab to trigger the lights to traffic change phase (or could be operated by closing doors in some networks).
I think SL = Shunt Limit. This is at Parramatta Square where the scissor cross overs allow trams to terminate and run s short distance in the wrong direction to change tracks. The SL is the limit the tram can run wrong direction before changing ends.
Hi Raymond, Thanks very much for this, and sorry for not replying earlier. Yes Ready to Start makes complete sense, as I think all the RTS signs have been at stops. It will be interesting to see if the driver has a button or if it's based on doors closing. And I agree with SL for shunt limit too. There is an SL sign at the Rosehill Gardens stop crossover, so "Shunt Limit" makes sense. I've had a few different answers for both RTS and SL, but I think your answers seem the most accurate, so thanks for sharing.
Yet another great video Paul! A minor point which I've seen in a couple of videos - at 9:27 you mention the traffic lights waiting to be installed. These are actually just temporary "portable" traffic light sets with a heavy concrete base for stability, and the tangle of power cables to connect the signals. They're used quite a bit now to allow temporary signalising to be retained or added and so on.
Thanks for that Jim. Many of these traffic lights have 4 aspects or filters, which makes me think they are for trams. The 4 aspect tram traffic lights will be explained in part 3. If these are temporary, then I wonder what the permanent ones would look like, if they were waiting to be installed?
@@TransportVlog Paul, I remember seeing these temporary traffic lights with the concrete bases when Erskine Park Road was being widened and re-sealed. All permanent traffic signals, now.
@@TransportVlog the same style of "portable" lights has also been used at Macquarie Park as part of the Herring Road upgrade. They cover up unwanted lights and wire in whatever is needed. A meat idea!
A wonderful presentation Paul. Thanks for a most comprehensive update. Parramatta eats street will benefit from reduced carbon monoxide fumes accompanying the meals!
this has been a trip down memory lane for me. Such a huge programme of development since the 1940s. I look forward to future episodes.
Thanks Luke, glad you enjoyed it! Yes I'll eat to that! Not sure if you've seen my Parramatta Light Rail vehicle video as yet. If not, here is a link to it. ruclips.net/video/baF6mnHVEuM/видео.html
Another great round up of the PLR.
Thanks Philip
Great update Paul! It's awesome to see the track pretty well finished, and canopies starting to appear over stations! It's only a matter of time until tram testing starts. Will you document the tram testing? Thanks for this update, and the effort you put into it.
Yes I'll definitely cover tram testing when it starts. I won't be able to walk on the tracks then :-)
That was so weird. I was scrolling RUclips and saw this. I live literally where you were filming at the end of George Street
Hi James, wow! What a coincidence! If you notice me there in the future, do come out and say Hi!
Hi Paul, another amazing presentation with some added humour. I really enjoyed the before and after views which was very helpful and interesting. Thanks again Paul and I can't wait for further updates.
Thanks John, glad you enjoyed it. I've just started working on part 3 which features the Royal Oak Hotel that was demolished to make way for the light rail. It's very handy to be able to use Google Streetview to get the 2018 images.
Hi Paul, enjoy your videos.
At 11.39, Macquarie St section, you talk about lane on right for road vehicles. This provides access to Parramatta Mission car park. Has nothing to do with PHIVE building.
Stuart
Hi Stuart, thanks for that! I'll remember that for next time. As you've probably guessed, I'm not a Parramatta boy! Glad you're enjoying my videos.
good video
Thanks Joseph
A terrific video, lots of details, it is appreciated. The NSW government has obviously learnt a lot from its previous light rail project to see this one going so well. Hopefully the next stage gets underway very shortly before the current one is finished. As to the grassed light rail stretches, thankfully they did not use that awful kikuyu grass, this a literal nightmare to maintain and control and should be banned everywhere. The native grass is a far better option, as you explained. Keep up the videos, very informative.
I feel the cbd is a much more difficult proposition than the parra light rail, so not surprising there...
Hi William, Glad you enjoyed it. Yes it has gone much better than the Sydney Light Rail scheme so far. Yes good that they chose a native grass.
I've really enjoyed watching these updates of yours , i appreciate the effort you've put into these video's and how informative they are....will you be doing something regarding the alfred st pedestrian bridge at all?
I wasn't aware of that! , so thanks for mentioning it! I'll see if I can include it in a future Parramatta Light Rail update. And I'll definitely go for a ride on it when its done!
As I mentioned on another site, I do find it amusing that all the warning and traffic signs all carry the outline of an old-fashioned drop centre tram with a trolley pole, rather than that of a modern car with a pantograph! Greetings from the Isle of Man (TT-land to some!).
Just to qualify the above, I used to be a tram driver in Melbourne many years ago, at Malvern depot.
Hi Rodney, yes I couldn't agree more! - Its such as old-fashioned sign! Lovely to know that you're watching my videos for the Isle of Man. Hopefully I'll get to Melbourne soon to ride and film some trams!
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Actually the purple pipes are recycled water which is provided through Sydney Water. Recycled water is available to certain homes and areas in Sydney such as Rouse Hill, Kellyville etc
Hi Alex, Parramatta Light Rail refer to it as "reclaimed" water, and there are purple drains at certain locations that could be used to collect water, but it could also be done through Sydney Water too.
An interesting fact Paul on Canberra's light rail stops they have a bubbler & water refill Stations on their light rail stops so if you ever plan on Visiting Canberra which is only a 3 hr Dr by car from Sydney then you'll see that all the light rail stops in Canberra have bubbler & water refill Stations at every light rail Stop
Thanks for that Peter. I think all Parramatta Light Rail stops will have water refill stations, and also all the Metro NW stations have then too! I've been to Canberra several times, but not since the light rail started, so its definitely on my list! And I would get the train there, as its a lovely train ride!
Thank you for this update! Seeing the canopy on Church Street both here and in-person, it strikes me how unfortunate their placement is for the shop name awnings right next to them. I wonder if there was a way they could be designed to either not obscure them or link up with them so there isn't that awkward gap between the canopy and a sign nobody will be able to see?
Hi Elias, Yes that's a good point. I know that the canopies are a standard design. Perhaps when all the fencing comes down, it will look a little better.
Hi Paul, thanks for another interesting and informative video. It seems that I watched your Part 4 before this one. So, I am now trying to catch up. Love the reserved track area. It reminds me a bit of Anzac Parade back in the old days. The surrounding trees remind me a bit of St Kilda Road and Dandenong Road here in Melbourne. apparently, the light rail tram won't have a branch line to the ferry wharf, which is a pity. Maybe they could add in a heritage steam tram line connecting from the light rail line to the wharf. We will live in hope for that one!!! I have just now looked up SL on the Internet and found Signal Light. Just curious, would you know to which Metro line is Parramatta connected? As far as i know, the Tallawong to Chatswood line seems to miss Parramatta completely. I love how they separate road traffic from the light rail tram lines there. This is definitely something that should be done a lot more often here in Melbourne. Anyway, wishing you all the very best. Rob in Melbourne Australia.
Hi Rob, glad you enjoyed it. Glad you like the green track! Parramatta will be on the Sydney Metro West line which will run from Westmead to Hunter Street. Yes I'm sure Melbourne can learn a few things from Sydney!
The Wire Free Sections On The Parramatta Light Rail Is Different to the sydney light rail. The Wire Free Section on the Sydney Light Rail was between Town Hall And Circular Quay On the L2 and L3 That was used for the Alstom Citadis.
Yes that's right Ethan. Sydney Light Rail uses Alstom's APS ground-level power supply between Town Hall and Circular Quay and Parramatta Light Rail will use batteries.
Paul I hate to be picky, but those “ cantilever arms “ you pointed to at the end of the video looked cable stayed arms to me. The arms look like they are held up by the cables running from the arms to the pole.
Hi Francesco, that's fine! - I'm not sure what cable stayed arms are, so feel free to elaborate. However, I did notice cables from the cantilever arms to the poles on the opposite side. This may be temporary to keep them in place until the overhead wires appear. I guess we'll find out soon!
@@TransportVlog if you look at say the gleble island bridge you can see the road deck is held up by cables from two towers at either end. That is a cable stayed bridge. To me those arms look like tiny versions of one half of that sort of bridge. A true cantilever only holds itself out with the beam with no other support
I don’t think those wires are temporary ,I think the wires are the reason the poles are so high. The poles are forming a permanent support structure for the wires
What is being alluded to is that a cantilever is a structural member that is only supported from one side. If there is something holding it up on the other end (like a post, or a wire, or something else) it’s technically not a cantilever… at least not from a structural perspective.
I’m not sure if the word has another meaning specific to railways though.
I’m imagining how interesting it’d be in about 2050 watching your video again, as long as you haven’t deleted it, Paul, and try to recall what were being done 3 decades ago…
Very interesting looks like this was done in good time compared to our Eglinton Crosstown here in Toronto.
Hi Peter, yes it's progressing surprisingly quickly and seems to be keeping to schedule for a 2023 opening as far as I can tell. Being in Toronto, I guess you follow Reece's channel? - I've supplied some footage for his next video, so I'm sure you'll enjoy that.
@@TransportVlog Thanks Paul.
Eglinton Crosstown due to open next year also, a lot of problems due harsh winter weather and old infrastructure in the city.
It'll be interesting to see whether the outdoor dining tables on Eat Street will be removed when the trams become operational. They're very close to the road, and tend to bottleneck foot traffic - especially during busy hours! I like the openness of Church St currently without the trams, but I imagine those tables will be more a safety concern than convenient eating location when a big tram comes through!
Yes good point, especially if you add a few cyclists into the mix! It will be interesting to see if the outdoor tables remain or not.
Paul thanking you for another high quality video explaining in great detail with the progress of Parramatta Light Rail. I may have miss the answer to the missing light rail signaling on the old T6 heavy rail section. Will signaling be installed???. Thanks for your quality work.
Hi Jon, You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed this video. Yes there will be signalling on the old Carlingford line section and also to control the crossovers on the street running sections. I haven't seen any signals as yet, so hopefully they'll be some in place for when I do my next update!
Paul hi. Thanking you so much for your assistance. Kind regards Jon Boland.
Thanks for the great video. Can you please guide which stop to get over to reach the parramatta train station faster. How far is it going to be?
Parramatta Square will be the closest stop, and its about a 3 minute walk to the station. I'll see if I can cover this when the line opens.
Hey Paul, I’d like to confirm with you that what you call “Active Transport Path” is actually called “Active Transport Link” this is confirmed on the parramatta light rail website
Yes "Active Transport Link" is the official name, but I tend to use Active Transport Path, as I feel that makes more sense, and is a cross between Active Transport Link and Shared Path. If E-Scooters become legal in the future, then it won't be just "active users" using them!
@@TransportVlog yeah it is a good way to sum it up. I sent you a message a few weeks back but you didn’t get it.
I wonder if "SL" might mean "Stop Light" but "Slow" makes sense too. Will be interesting to see
Hi David, yes possibly. Someone mentioned that it could mean "Shared Lane", so a warning that other vehicles might be crossing or using the tracks ahead. I have asked someone within Parramatta Light Rail about this, so hopefully I'll have an answer in time for part 3.
@@TransportVlog - i think it is "Shared Lane".
I think you will find that SL means "shared lane"
Thanks Howard, yes that seems to make sense, based on where I've noticed them.
Hello Paul, Can you tell me when they will start installing the overhead wires? And can you tell me when the line might be opened? thank you. My name is Douglas Brooks, I used to live at Rydalmere, then Carlingford, Thank you.
Hi Douglas, The overhead wires have started being installed on the sluthbound line from Carlingford to Camellia. You can see glimpses of them in this video ruclips.net/video/baF6mnHVEuM/видео.html. Good to hear that you used to live on this line. I'll probably do another update in March or April.
3 spam comments reported. What's your opinion on the possibility of upgrading the Liverpool and/or the North West T-way to light rail?
It probably won't work there as the T way bus lane is only meant to service the buses & that there is already enough transport to service the south & north.
Hi Sancheez, thanks for reporting the Spam comments. I've just reported another one now. I don't know the Liverpool T-way very well, but I used the T-way from Westmead to Bella Vista station after filming this video, and I was really impressed by how quick it was. It's now on my list for a future video! So personally, I would leave it as is. I think light rail would be too slow.
@@TransportVlog hi Paul the T way is basically a dedicated bus rapid transit road that services the buses in the south west & North west that links it services to parramatta/liverpool/Blacktown & Rouse hill.
Whu is tramway avenue called tramway avenue? Was there an earlier tram?
Hi Rick, great question! Yes there was. Between 1883 and 1943, a tram ran from the Parramatta Park end of George Street to the mouth of the Duck River, where it connected with a Parramatta River ferry services to central Sydney. This ferry service stopped running in 1928 and after that, the tram line primarily carried freight until it closed in March 1943. And yes, Tramway Avenue was named after the original line.
Thanks for the vid! I'm pretty sure cyclists will be allowed to ride down Church Street, just as they are on George Street in the City.
Hi Mik, you're very welcome. Yes I'm pretty confident that cyclists will be able to use Church Street too. It would be quite a detour otherwise.
So, is Paul Thomas your full name?
Yep that's me!
Oh, so, is your full name Paul Thomas? ;)
Yep! - that's right!
What happened to that building on the south side?
Which one?
The building at McQuarrie Street
Gone!
@@TransportVlog Demolished? Huh?
Sydney should've kept their extensive tram system as Melbourne did.
Yes absolutely!
SL= single lane?
Hi Pat, yes possibly. It could also be "shared lane" too, to warn of other traffic that might also use the tram tracks.
a curious fact about this tramway work are several factors and lame excuses from rulers and other politicians not being from australia because it is a developed island but some cases of poor countries such as south africa, asia and south america build this project forward takes if you find that every time that politicians and other organizations launder public money behind the backs of the population with false lying promises and finally this work is never finished and an detention screated because work done like this costs billions of dollars would never be completed for entire.
Today's Word Salad.
Can i get the grass cutting contract,,, what a dumb azz idea putting grass,,, why build something that needs maintenance surely the opposite should be the goal
They have had grass sections on some of the longer tram lines down in Melbourne for many years (such as around Box Hill) and haven't had any trouble with it.
The grass sections have many benefits, including releasing CO2, reducing air temperatures and helping with flood prevention, and the upkeep costs will be minimal.