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A Future Beyond Capitalism? Socialism Explained.
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Considering how frequently the media and public figures misuse the words Marxism, Socialism, and Communism, I thought it would be useful to correct the record. In this episode I go over a brief history of capitalism, why socialism is the best way forward, and correct a few misconceptions.
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I definitely will my G keep hustling hard and I will be looking forward to more of your future videos 😁💯
I especially recommend their video on Cuban democracy!
@UCmv33pn3yypm6ptakSb8q0Q Capitalism kills. Just look at the coronavirus.
dude you're gonna get blackbagged with all these anti-american videos. Keep it up!!
@@simulify8726 he considers himself a socialist
“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.”
― Dom Helder Camara
Love this quote.
@@Astroman1958 Fuck Churchill! His the reason we have this Iran mess Anyways.
@@Astroman1958 And why'd you think that?
@@Astroman1958 How could you assume I'm in Europe when I talked about Iran. Churchill convince the US to overthrow the Prime minister of Iran, which would lead to a blowback in 1979 as the sha was replaced by the Ayatollah.
@@Astroman1958 Iran Nationalized it's Oil. Churchill being the man he is. Convince the US to De'coup the Democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran in 1953.
I went to high school, dropped out of college because I couldn't work 3 jobs and go to school at the same time, no kids, I have slaved in the Texas sun for 30 years, worked for Enron, worked evictions after the 08 crash, I have been on the verge of homelessness since the very beginning of my life. Every single time I needed medical attention, a bad cut to the arm, or I was super sick once, the bills were $4000-$8000 depending. I will never own even a modest home. Forever renting. Investors snap up houses and drive up rent and housing prices before I could ever hope to live in one. And yet I am surrounded by mansions. Old money. It is I that am old now. I dont heal as fast anymore. My legs hurt in the morning. I am slowing down. I miss everything, I will never get to be. I wish things would have been different. I hope everyone finds what they are looking for. Thank you for this video.
This broke my heart to read. I'm sorry that all of this happened to you. 😢
I hope we'll be able to see change soon so you can finally get the chance to own the place you can call home!
Lol get owned scrub
@@aeyk781 Man that's heartless.
@@henrycrabs3497 How is it funny?
how the f do you work 30 years for enron and have nothing left
As an ex-walmart employee, I can confirm that we do indeed throw out mountains of food every day. One time I asked why we don't donate what we don't sell and a manager said to me, "why should we take the loss by giving away sellable goods?"I was than told to go back to business school and get back to work. To complete my paycheque I quit the next week...
These mega-corporations should be viewed as nothing more than monsters. Not the individuals who work for these companies but the capitol owners themselves
Just imagine the amount of food being wasted every year 😟
probably a silly 'solution' (it only helps partially) the government can provide is just taxing the hell out of thrown out stuff. probably already happens, but more tax is just a bigger incentive to donate the food to food banks etc. here in the netherlands it recently became popular to price things at ridiculously low prices (10 - 30% of the original price) if it was only good for one more day. Every evening when that stuff gets refilled and every morning when the store opens there is just a group of people checking out what cheap products they can use. usually everything is gone before noon. just seeing how much food wouldve been thrown out every single day only for all of it to be sold to people that dont have much to spend or given away to food banks (what is past due date, leftovers from the previous thing i talked about, but is edible doesnt get thrown away) is really nice. btw, the hassle to be in time to buy stuff at a reduced price and the fact that it is all close to due date makes it inconvenient for richer people to profit off of this. as inconvenience is the biggest enemy of the comfortable, the people who struggle financially will actually benefit from this.
@@janthecoo4964great point.
In Germany they were discussing why „Containern“ (getting food out of the bins at supermarkets) is still illegal.
You know what a representative of the food industry said?
- the risk of food containing glass is too high. Less than 0.0001% of food contains glass.
- way more food is thrown out in households, not in the industry. So what? Every single bit of solving food and feeding the poor helps. What kinda logic is that?
idiot manager. Most businesses get rid of food because it expires. There's plenty of corporate greed though.
"It's like the American dream-only it's real". My favorite quote from this video.
Until you get to 24:20...
@@MckensyLong or how if you take the worlds GDP and divide it by all the people in the world you get $12,000 person. I think their logic has left the room cause this is mass poverty.
No, it’s not
@@veselganait isnt but it will
I love how people say "2008 crisis" as if it ended at some point. I feel like I've lived the last 12 years in crisis.
It was never fix
Yep, like I said in the video, much of the population never really regained their footing. It’s been a slow decline since the 80s, and a more rapid decline since 2008.
It started on September 11, 2001 for me
It did restore in much of the world, just not in the USA. Good luck to you guys! Hopefully the socialists will win the ideological war.
yep, i never recovered from 2008. I make less now than I did then. The worst part is that you struggle and then are blamed for it too.
It’s interesting how most people agree with marxism when you explain it without the label, but right when you say the word communism they think you’re a lunatic
People are -stupid- incurious. → Brainwash is effective. → Capital rules (but self-distructs, burying under its rubbles those who deserve).
I have noticed something similar, especially in regard to politics or economics. There is/has been a lot of marketing around various words: "marxism" "socialism" "obama care" "rights" "communist". Like socialism, many older people I know are cool with social security, medicare, insurance, and many other government or at least pooled safety nets and how they function. But if the specific word "socialism" comes out, they are suddenly hardcore against it.
That's because socialism works as a theoretical idea, but when you put it into practice... it kinda sucks - see like most socialist, command economy countries.
@@ajones363 If your nation is running an exploitative command economy then obviously its going to suck regardless of the economic system they use. Just as one can exploit the advantages of capitalism, one can do the same with both socialism and communism. Ontop of the fact that exploitative command economies are not going to market themselves as what they truly are. High ranking officials in these kinds of nations are most certaintly going to pile sugar ontop of the harsh reality that they are providing. Socialism is no silver bullet for a perfect society but many of the policies that people need in hyper capitalist societys to thrive are found in the principles of socialism.
@@ajones363
Sorry, but what was actually implemented in practice is already proof that it works, turn on and off the light in your house, and then declare that the light does not work, therefore it never worked - this is logical nonsense, because the light is simply turned off, and this does not mean that the light in the house is not working.
Capitalism literally sacrificed your logical thinking in the name of preserving Bezos' status.
To me, the idea of infinite growth being unsustainable was obvious. What do these corporate overlords think is supposed to happen? They are truly so blinded by greed they only care about their bonus and their wealth.
They assume they'll be long dead when everything falls apart, so it's not their problem
@@chrisgaming9567 I absolutely hate that attitude 😫 it’s everything wrong with the world
@@chrisgaming9567 wow that's extremely greed-blinded
As a wise anti-corporate orange thing once said, you can't blame greed. Greed is the spark, but pride is what burns everything down.
Its not about the manager with bonus its about the law and culture which accepts profits which is only an adition to the costs for greed of the capitalist/ owners. Its made up structurally
I slept in a tent for 4 months - in a forest near a hotel. Every night I'd stare at those empty rooms and have to PRETEND that they were worth $100/night.
When it rained and my tent became flooded, I'd stare at the hotel.
When my back ached and my clothes smelled, I'd stare at the hotel.
When I was SICK in FREEZING TEMPARATURES, SLEEPING OUTSIDE FOR TWO WEEKS, I STARED AT THAT HOTEL.
What a sick and twisted joke.
As a trucker who drove refrigerated goods, I saw this abandoning of produce in almost every state, at every port, at every store house. I was able to "reclaim" a few crates here and there and I spread them amongst my brothers and sisters at truck stops. It happens everywhere, and it is truly horrible.
I still have nightmares and PTSD from the things I saw them do to live stock as well. Inhumane is the least offensive of the words I can use to describe the horror that is the meat industry. And don't get me wrong, I'm a country boy, I love me some meat. But I started doing research on where it came and how it was treated. but now jobless, unable to get on disability, and with no way to work, I settle for what food I'm given.
I come from a military family, and we all know all too well; America thrives on war. America thrives on the suffering of the innocent, and the death of the freedoms of all people, even it's own. America needs a war every 20 years minimum to sustain itself. And at the rate our politicians are going the next one could very well be a civil war. Welcome all to the age of the civil-cold war.
Karma in America is dead; I've fed the poor and desperate, treated them as proper people while I prospered. At almost every stop as a trucker there where homeless. I gave out MREs, Space blankets, socks, razers, soap, and clean water to them. I don't care who you are, what religion, color, race, gender, I count you all as brother and sister. We are all in this together, and I'm frightened for us all. Be safe out there. And be more well than I.
In these times, it is best to do as America has always done, offer one hand in friendship and peace, and arm the other to keep the peace from those who are no friend. I am worried for our once great nation.
There is no time limit for karma.. your selfless deeds will be paid in full when the universe decides it is time. Hang in there brother, and do not lose hope!
Thank you for your kindness
The meat industry really is horrible, the book The Jungle describes it as it was 100 years ago. Thank you for your kindness and selfless support for others your a kind man and I’m sure that the people around you know.
My friend you are a shining example of humanity in a world that seriously lacks it. Thank you for what you do and I can only hope your story inspires more people to do it
May Good bless you and america 🇺🇸
“When you lose your job, you lose your right to live” Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Before this pandemic I was blind just shut up and work. Now it is get vac, go to work, if you die or lose house, oh well. Oh by the way, you can't sue a company we passed laws for that.
Ability maybe, but never right.
@@BarrySlisk wow, such a distinction ...without difference
@@uncannyvalley2350
There is a big difference. No one can take your life. That is a right to live.
But in return you do not have the right to someone else's life, time and money.
Right, having no choice but to have a job is the definition of "kidnapping".
The part where you said that capitalism and America are so intertwined that it feels like it's our culture, and attacking capitalism is like attacking America... that made SO many dots connect in my head. Thank you for these videos - they have explained concepts I knew of and slightly understood to a point where I could *probably* hold my own conversation with someone now, lol.
I live in Louisiana, in Alexandria, which is arguably one of the poorest cities in the poorest state. Let me give you some perspective, we are at the bottom of all the good lists and the top of all the bad, the minimum wage is 7.50 an hour, and the sales tax here is 9.5 percent. As a right to work state you can be fired for essentially no reason, and unions are nearly non existent. We have the 9th highest homicide rate per Capita , and are in the top one percentile of violent crime per Capita. The lowest rates of education the highest for heart disease and obesity, we have the highest incarceration rate per Capita in the state, and country, and therefore the entire world. It's firmly republican and southern Baptist, with a lot of fundamentalism, Christian nationalism, and white supremacy.
Yet this used to be the land of Huey P. Long, share our wealth , every man a king. I see this place as probably one of the most antagonistic towards socialism and the international ideals of Marx and Engels, but also one of the places that need it the most ... I'm slowly trying to change attitudes here, I agitate, and educate , and organize. But brothers and sisters it is an uphill Battle. That's why I enjoy videos like this, to remind me why we fight, and to polish up my dialectics, and gain new perspectives. I am glad I found this channel. Solidarity my friends. ✊
When I was a kid, Louisiana was actually a power in national politics and fairly rich, with a working state government, and I remember when the Right-to-Work issue came up on a statewide referendum back in the 70s. The anti-RTW campaign came up with a telling slogan: "Right-to-Work FOR LESS". Naturally the voters didn't listen. Right-to-Work passed and from that moment the state started going downhill. Louisiana is now a Third World petro republic run by clowns, represented in Washington by clowns, a joke nationally, polluted and impoverished, and just about at the bottom of every social and economic metric. New Orleans is the only reason people from the outside world even come to this rinky-dink state and gets fucked over in Baton Rouge at every opportunity. Louisiana elected the anti-Long, Booby Swindle, as governor, who proceeded to wreck or privatise (same thing, really) the state health care and public university systems as far as possible. Now it's getting set to elect some idiot Trumpslave as governor and is already embracing Red State fascism.
it's really surreal to see my city mentioned, but I'm glad I'm not alone comrade
The most cold phrase in the modern world: "It's just business."
Basically, yes.
Hollywoods favourite trope too, which is funny because the movies that use it are produced by companies like disney
@@aoveratedjoke3583 How ironic.
@@comradefreedom8275 very
A truly disgusting quote no one should live by, ignoring morality just because of money.
Thomas Sankara was president from 33-37 yrs old, when he was assassinated. To single-handedly accomplish that much good for his country of 7 million people in just 4 years shows what is possible with anti-imperialist society. What an amazing individual.
The documentary about him here on youtube is amazing. Also the way he died was 12/10 anime betrayal it was his quasi best friend and he knew that it was coming.
It be ya own niggas
Damn this dude Sankara sounds like a role model.
He's my north star
@@50733Blabla1337 which documentary
hearing about Thomas Sankara made me really happy; then the gut punch that he was murdered. genuinely sad. he sounds like he was a really swell guy and we need more of him
1 of too many targets/ victims/
martyrs.
Not just Sankara..we had the likes of Kwame Nkuruma, Samora Machel, Patrice Lumumba, Julius Nyerere among other leftist who were either murdered or seriously undermined by the US. In my country Kenya we have the Odinga family that has successfully been demonised by the US and as a result we have corrupt capitalist as leaders and a deeply tribalist politics devoid of any ideas
You did it. You were the one that opened my mind again, thank you.
Yeah he did tho. I learned a lot from this channel
I've been capitalist leaning for a while now, but since experiencing car life due to lack of means, I've been very interested in the housing issues in london. This lead me to what I'm watching now. I think I'm socialist now. Or at least I know capitalism needs to be replaced.
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 thanks :)
Congratulations 😎 you won against the brainwashing. ✊🏼🚩
In my country, Brazil, after the resign of the right-wing President Jânio Quadros in 1961, his left-wing vice-president João Goulart, known as Jango, took office (in those times president and vice-president were elected separately). Jango started what he called "Basic Reforms": giving the illiterate the right to vote, fighting illiteracy, promoting redistribution of the land and housing for all. The people loved him, even in the State of São Paulo, where his party always lost the elections.
His government was overthrown by a CIA-supported military coup, and Brazil entered a 21-year-long dictatorship.
He died in exile.
Everyone south of USA might as well be called a martyr
Reason 312 why the U.S is actually the bad guys of the world:
CIA: LEFT-WING? OMG COMMUNISTS MUST DESTROY
Brazil: Bro I'm not even a socialist much less a communist, I'm just fighting illiteracy and inequality...
@@cinnamon-skateboarding5987 why is it always the United States that gets all of the flack for being shit in the Cold War. Of course we were bad but it’s not like the soviets and other groups were that much better.
@@dingermcgee3871 which one still exists and continues to rule by forced hegemony?
that thing about the number of homeless people compared to the number of vacant homes really got to me. it's crazy the sheer amount of greed in our world.
So no one should be compensated for skill. You carpenter you shall have same gruel as non worker, rejoice in our system comrade. My grandma left such shit now it coming for my country just great.
@@averyarp7901 Pro tip: Capitalism poisoned your socialist country. And now you lick its boots.
@@sophiathefurbst I did and I refuse to willing participate a failed experiment at my expense.
@@armyofninjas9055 what are you talking about, licking nothing I just know I don't want to participate in another eventual failed endeavour.
Capitalism is better but human greed ruins it. Creating money out of thin air and making profit from imaginary loans and refusing to fail makes all of our time value diluted.
this makes me so mad why can’t we just make the choice to care about one another
There's 2 beliefs: 1. You take care of me and Ill take care of you - Socialism, 2. Ill take care of me for you, and you take care of you for me - Capitalism.
Where people say "why cant we choose to take care about one another." is usually when they choose not to take care of themselves and depend on someone else to take care of them. That's not compassion.
The real challenge is 'care' can mean different things. Do we let the individual choose how much or little they should have OR do we let the government tell us how much or little we should have. If you look at Cuba, they care very little for their people. They limit how much food you are allowed to buy (assuming you have the money.)
In Cuba It's illegal to kill and eat your own cow. It's illegal to sell things to make money. Why? Because the government has already decided the care you deserve. Their leader recently said, "All you need is lemonade." You don't need food, running water or electricity... just lemonade. Of course the government officials sit high and mighty with everything they want and need. They are allowed 4 eggs per person per month, a few cups of rice, and 1lb of chicken (which you still have to pay for). Why? Because THE GOVERNMENT is taking care of you and they determine what you should have. They have free health care, but no medications and no pain killers and only the doctors that cannot flee stay. They will let you die in the street. They will let you starve to death.
If you own something, they take it. Start a business that's profitable? They take it and make you an employee.
The homeless people in America are better off than the vast majority of people living in Cuba today.
When the people revolted a few months ago, they were shot in the street by the government. The people have no guns to overturn the government so they are forced to starve. The government controlled the narrative and shut down the internet. The protesters were murdered, and the government called anyone that told the truth a liar. If a citizen pushed back too hard, them and their family disappeared.
Greed doesn't go away in a socialist society. We get to pick. Greed in the hands of corporations where we can at least vote with our $ - Capitalism, Or greed in the hands of the government with all the guns - Socialism.
The only people who possibly believe in socialism are the ones who have never seen it and believe the theories over the reality.
@@MckensyLong socialism can be reformed and made to work.if the US doesn't meddle I believe it can work. Greed and the mantra everyone for himself will make a society that is not only unequal but dangerous for people who are poor
@georgepresley5120 same is true for socialism... except everyone is poor and no one has a vehicle to build wealth.
Try Cuba. It's not far. $30mo in income. 1 lb of meat is $15.
Everyone is poor. Government controls everything. Side hustles are illegal. You own nothing.
The only difference it makes is the greed is in the government (they have guns) instead of the companies (they don't have guns). Governments can force you to buy from them, companies cannot.
I'll take greed without the guns, please.
I just wish people had to TRY socialism for 1 year before they got to vote for it.
@@MckensyLongyou are spewing misinformation. Why do you think the government of Cuba has to ration food? Perhaps it's due to the illegal and undemocratic sanctions placed upon Cuba by some overarching superpower in close vicinity?
@@georgepresley5120That has been the idea behind every socialist revolution. That “this time it’s different.” There will always be greedy people looking to take advantage of the system. In capitalism it’s the ownership class. In socialism it’s the ones deciding how resources are allocated.
Thank you so much for this. After watching this video + the “Why can’t we imagine life after capitalism?” has changed my views drastically. I’m a 15 year old and I’ve always felt that capitalism was wrong but I’ve been always told that there wasn’t anything other option or it was our human nature to be greedy and I’ve believed that for the longest time. I didn’t like capitalism, but I couldn’t see no other way. Ive always been depressed about this and constantly found myself in trying to wrap my head around this “truth” that I’ve been fed. I’ve always felt like we were at the “end of history”. That the world was just gonna go down in a spiral until we eventually brought a self made rapture onto ourselves. To make myself feel better I told myself that I would just get rich and try to help as many people as I can and attempt to try to show people the dangers of capitalism but that always felt like a crazy dream.
I’ve always felt alone with these feelings that we can be so much better than we are. That there’s a different BETTER way, but there was no one around me that felt the same. This video really opened my eyes that we can change our systems to help people instead of damaging them and that there is hope.
I feel you there. I live in Australia and I'm only 17. I've always been told that Socialism and Communism create poverty, hunger and homelessness, and I've always believed that. However, after I learned the truth about all of it, I very quickly changed my views. Second Thought has helped inform me so much, and I am glad that videos like this are out there and accessible on RUclips, even as it tries hard to stop this kind of content.
There are two bad systems of governance in the wold - Rule by/for the ultra-wealthy and Rule by/fort the ultra-poor... Hyper Capitalism / Corporatism on the one hand and Socialism/Communism on the other.... Socialists are thieves and warpers at all levels, like capitalist marketeers. They believe people should be forced to pay to support The Poor so theft is their core principle.
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Proper Marxists/Commies do not believe in property ownership, instead The Authority owns anything of any value, especially the things that enable individual liberty. Socialists will always label predominantly capitalist but still mixed economies (such as Scandinavia) as Socialist which the vast majority of their citizens finds insulting. They consider themselves liberal capitalist + liberal democratic mixed economies and societies.
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You have to realise The US and UK almost went full-on Communist during the New Deal and WW2 until the 1980s for the UK. The main remnant of UK Socialism is now destroyed by PROGRESSIVE INTERNATIONAL LIBERAL LEFTISM. The NHS became the International Health Service and now we have 2 year waiting lists for major operations, with 100s of 1000s of illegal immigrants housed in hotels and homeless hostels that cost an arm and a leg.
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During WW2 Central Government introduced RATIONING, CONSCRIPTION, NATIONAL SERVICE, NATIONALISATION OF INDUSTRY... Food rationing ended in the middle of the 1950s and state ownership of most industry by 2000... It ended because they were bloated by socialists, thus damaging the economy as a whole, making us uncompetitive, and the state was borrowing a fortune every year propping up failing industries. Standards were getting worse and worse and mass immigration took off so Cheap New Labour became available. Privitisation was the obvious next step. Sink or swim in the OPEN MARKET.
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I thought Libs are supposed to be against Nationalism and for Individual Liberty - so why are US 'liberals' so in love with the control-freak failure of a system that is Socialism / Communism / Fascism - you know, CENTRALLY PLANNED ECONOMY AND SOCIETY? Collectivist, anti-individual ILLIBERAL nonsense.
It's easy to be misled by videos like this.... especially if you are as young as you say you are.
Ask yourself this..... is Greed something that is unique to capitalism,or is it a human problem ? Do you think Greed can't exist in any other system?? It absolutely does exist under Socialism/communism if you must know.....
All I can really suggest to you is read books. Lots of books!! Don't just be persuaded by one video like this or even my comment if you actually read this.
Read books and learn for yourself!!! The more understanding you gain about how things work the more Economics will start to make sense to you.
I'd suggest reading Ludwig Von mises, Thomas Sowell, and Hayek. Hell you could even read the Communist Manifesto and the more modern "a people's guide to capitalism" books..... just to get a well rounded compare and contrast view of these ideas.
Don't take it from me or anyone..... THINK for yourself and make up your own mind..... please! People like you are the future......don't be so easily brainwashed and misled by content like what's in this video.
@@lelandrobbins2310 good advice
@@lelandrobbins2310 can you give some examples on where the creator of the video brainwashed its viewers? i would be open to hear.
When covid hit many people in my industry switched to remote work, and some moved out of expensive cities. Bosses gave interviews saying they would not pay the same salaries to those that lived in cheaper areas. They openly admitted that it was never about fair pay for the work we put in, it was about paying us just enough to live on.
@@notpublic8961 That's just over simplistic and untrue. This is micro-economics. When you take macro-economics you learn that everything in micro-economics is wrong because there are just too many factors that you can't account for to have any of that stuff work the way it's modelled.
@@notpublic8961 he just stated that people that was already employees that moved out from expensive cities was getting pay cuts for doing the same work they where already doing
Your argument goes both ways. Why was there such a big push for an increase in minimum wage in the last few years? All of the cry for it came from big cities and the reasoning was that it's more expensive to live in big cities. It's exactly the same argument. It's comparing the price of wages to the price of living in a particular area.
@@notpublic8961 what tf are you even arguing? They are determining what they are going to pay their employees based on where they live, because they are assuming a person with cheaper living expenses is going to be more willing to accept lower pay - the rate they would like to pay all employees in that position if they could, but recognize they can't because a certain percentage of their applicant pool is going to have higher living expenses and therefore won't accept the position. No one is debating how competition works. You're overcomplicating it to try and make the argument that leftists just don't understand basic economics.
@@notpublic8961 Not entirely true since high qualification jobs can be outsourced to other people for lower pay.
“This is the part where you may have to grit your teeth and sit through some parts you don’t want to hear.”
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@@shannonossman3473 Got a better idea anarkiddie
being the most richest and powerful country in the world doesnt really mean much when most of it is in the pockets of like 5 people
The richest country. The U.S. national debt was more than $31.42 trillion in December 2022.
US has literally negative trade balance, existing only by money printing, thats really concerning
"Isn't that what capitalists are always telling us, that hard work should pay off?"
Well, you know what, they're staying true to their word, hard work does pay off, they never said it would pay off for the workers...
If socialism is brought to America, then the government controls everything, your money, education, and medical care, they can do whatever the heck they want!
Bingo
Not just hard work, also risky work.
As taking a risk is a part of capatilism, you willing to use an oppurtunity to improve your wealth.
Not in manipulation, most of time you are thrown in a garbage can whent that happens, sadly the law doesn't really care if your filthy rich, so being rich is more of a Backul plan sadly.
Still you can't just get there with just exploitation as not every person is going take your shit, capatilism encourges you to support those who support you.
You are viable for your decision in what you want, if you're not given what you want you gotta go and find it.
The problem Socialism has is trying to determine what everyone wants at the moment they need it, leading to terrible control, then becoming a hierachy when a certain person is given power.
Its mainly it just doesn't work by basic human function, people are self driven to help, themselves and others. So in a sense the Money is collaborate effort to gain what you want, at the cost of time and effort. You have to be valuable to earn money, just as Buisness need to be valuable to workers and customers to earn sustainable income.
Times changed. Simple as that. Nature of work changed. Nowadays working hard physically isn't what makes a lot of money. Working smart, being specialized and having certain skills pays off. And don't blame capitalism for that - it's "natural" course of things. Our needs changed, our world changed, our society changed.
@@N4chtigall what about teachers then? would you say teaching is no longer an important position? Would you say that it's not a specialized position? Doesn't it require a wide range of skills? Now tell me, how much are teachers payed? So, yeah... i DO blame capitalism
"It's like the American Dream. Only real." That hit hard.
Costa rica is the true American dream… hope we could learn from them.
@snarl banarl No, but they also don't have a military to invest trillion of dollars. Instead, they use that money to give free education and a great health care.
But it is real
You only felt it because you’re useless to other people.
You’re welcome for the clarification!
@snarl banarl did you? The vid is wrong lol
it's funny how much your video get interactions. it's rare to see a 2 years old video with so many recent comments
Using images of Amazon to explain the problem of exploitation while also collaborating with Audible feels hypocritical
America, where your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are wholly contingent upon your ability to secure employment.
@@shannonossman3473 Getting a passport and moving is not as easy as you think, otherwise there would be a massivw exodus
@@shannonossman3473 we have found one executive xD
Or, marry someone who does and then you don’t work.
All creatures: you trade something for food.
Agreedlol
Well I have half those things. I am alive and hold a full-time job.
Guaranteed, you are on an FBI watch list somewhere.
CIA*
@@JDG-hq8gy Both
@@JDG-hq8gy He used to be a checklist for someone of the CIA on a podcast
Nah, they let him off the hook because he's a useful idiot for their social engineering projects.
Good, let them learn something useful for once.
“It’s like the American dream but real” you could’ve literally ended the video right there and the video would make sense
We live in democracies, but in order to not starve to death, we have to relinquish most of our waking lives to extremely undemocratic institutions.
It’ easier to imagine the end of the world, than the end of capitalism.
Mark Fisher
Capitalist Realism is a great book.
RIP good man
if there was no capitalism then you might as well kill me
@@sten260 xD
@@lpointmpoint3736 theres is no free exchange, I cant buy a nuke or sell drugs to teenagers. Also, there are systems in history where there have been more free exchange, if anything "human nature" is anarchist or tribalism. Also doesn't mean that what is natural is good, disease(earthquakes, flood too) is natural but no one would like their children to get one. Monarchies also claimed to be human nature and god given, its all bullshit. Capitalism is a theory created, nothing natural about that
"Capitalist powers have never allowed Socialism to continue working."
So accurate.
Capitalist countries stopped Socialism because they knew it was a threat to ppl and the world. Look at China, Nobody likes it there
@@ryry978 It is more so, a threat to those in power. They don't want an example of how a country truly run by its own people can prosper.
@@ryry978 china is not socialist for starters - second, where did you get the idea that Chinese people hate their lives in China?
@@valentinli332 I mean to be fair its that but also the fact that any country socialism touched has resulted in a genocide or mass famine in an attempt to give everyone “equality”.
@@ryry978 noone likes there ? damn i visited China multiple times and ive saw people pretty happy and were cheering for their Leading party that keeps improving the middle class and lower class year after year.
Every American should be forced to watch this video
"The world has enough for everyone's needs, but not everyone's greed," Mahatma Gandhi
Half the country: "We dont want socialism!"
Same People: "Where's my stimulus check!"
LOL True!
There's also so many "sOciALiSm iS bIG gUbMeNT!" Comments.
Stimulus check is socialism, not capitalism. read your history
This is different and you know it. The government is forcing people to stop producing, thus they’re responsible when people can’t provide for their families.
Socialism is evil. Stop it.
@@MrWesford oh yes, giving people basic human necessities is evil, not capitalism deciding not to end world hunger, curable desesis, homelessness, unclean water, and provide healthcare killing 20 million yearly?
@@MrWesford nah, not really.
"Capitalism will always shoot itself in the foot for short term gains"
Thank you, I've been saying this for years and having people tell me I'm crazy.
You couldn't not define capitalism if your life depended on it
"Full-mode socialism cant solve even the short term tasks and struggles to gain some food`n`toilet paper, thus is predisposed to be commuted by the so-called "capitalism" again. And again. And again.
*So called "capitalism" is the condition when one particular man simply dont stole a good produced by another man to declare it "Our common property" and spend, basing on his own desire and fantasy(as far as pure "collective governing" doesnt exist). Any other connotation of that term is not raw and neutral.
People conceive "governements" and sign the social contract with Leviathan(omnipresent law and punishment) to get more clarity on the matter of their "property rights". Initially, it was about THIS and, of course, about defending your life from sudden murder. So, one time, when you cross a certain line in central governing of "wealth", you just make the entire concept of Governemnt meaningless.
@@somethingsecretsteersus5115 As much as capitalism is a false idea so is socialism. Marketism, monetism, Fascism And Marxist-Fabianism Makes no sense
@@somethingsecretsteersus5115 It's the opposite concept to classical liberalism, Classical in The sense of America's founders and locke
You are right about waste in the system.
I live in a city in the UK, surrounded by retail.
The waste is horrendous in the city.
I know for a fact that many big stores just throw things out.
There are skips all over the place here.
We have rough sleepers here, it is winter, it's like few people actually care.
I have nothing much to give, I have no room where I live, and not a lot of money to throw around.
But there are buildings here, empty ...
It's overwhelming to be honest and no end in sight.
I am in New Zealand and I see alot of homeless people too :/ it is very sad and they get a lot of shit from the public even when they’re just existing.
Last time I checked the stats we produce enough food to feed 12B there are 8B people and about 1/3 of them are starving something about these numbers is infuriating.
Last time I was this early, USSR was still a thing
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Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I poop on company time.
Unless you work for Amazon... :(
@@kevincrady2831 Capitalism has many flaws but is infinitely better than the opposite economic alternatives.
@@prometheus5405 Doesn't excuse you from using alternative techniques that combat the inefficiencies of Capitalism
@@SimGunther Keynesian is the most efficient way, while Marxist-Leninism is reckless & destructive.
too bad then youre not smart so you get the dime
A great line you said was “capitalist countries won’t let socialism work” so interesting.
And completely true. The US is the #1 reason socialism and communism is so hated (pol pot was funded by the US)
Thanks!
oh my god
Holy shit
Can u give me a lil 😩🥺🥺
Wow, thank you so much!
The way you’ve done this is genius. Tell people the issues with capitalism and then present the solution.
That's literally what marxism is about. Marx hated utopian socialism, so he spent most of his time criticizing his current economic system rather than imagine how a socialist one would look like
@@00coelho Socialist policies cannot bring about a perfect system just like capitalism, it should be seen as necessary control agent for a hybrid capitalist system.
Yea i love the optimism that this will possibly change someday, but greed is rooted deep in our economic lifeblood.
That's how Marx approached it, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Unlike Capitalism. Which is definitely broke
@@batukhan1 a hybrid system cannot exist. That’s like asking for a hybrid of a dictatorship and a free democracy
I remember when we found out what water-boarding was. It was because America was accused of torture ( using water-boarding). They denied it on the grounds that they had 'reclassified' the word torture to only include organ failure or death.
@Isaac Barrett No. The original definition would be forceful information extraction. I could pull out your fingernails and you would not die. Under any other definition that would be torture.
This video made me cry, please be careful dude this stuff is legitimately infuriating and moving, this is just what some people need to see for this change to finally begin
Try saying that to people that actually lived under communism
I remember a story my dad once told me about Indonesia's first president, Soekarno, he was very much a socialist, and very much cared for his people, he had a "Communist party" that worked in the interest of the people, he was well loved, he was one of our lead men in our fight against imperialist. And how it all ended? The U.S.A staged a coup, imprisoned him, spread propaganda that caused the death of the communist party, and installed the vice president, who instead of working for the people, caused suffering. Indonesia seemed like it was the Soviet Union just without the communism. Students were kidnapped and killed for speaking out against the government, military officers were blamed for things they didn't do, and people suffered. Today, we're fortunate to have a president who's more well liked.
Second Thought, you are a great channel, I hope you manage to hit a million soon. You deserve this attention and you sure as hell have my like.
I think I read a story that tied to that.
@CRISTIAN TEARE The USSR was counterrevolutionary and one of the first things Lenin did when he got into power was weaken and eventually destroy the organic worker council and trade union movements that had excelled at worker self-determination and workplace democracy, and in place insert extreme centralization, long after the period of war-communism was over. We will never forget Kronstadt and and what the bolsheviks did to destroy it. I recommend reading The Bolsheviks and Workers' Control: The State and Counter-Revolution by Maurice Brinton, it's free on marxists.org. the Bolsheviks actively destroyed organic socialist movements, sowing the seeds for sectarianism:
"the syndicalist deviation leads to the fall of the dictatorship of the proletariat" - Lenin.
And on top of this, I would not even consider all Lenin's ideas genuine Marxist. His concept of Vanguardism is much more Blanquist than Marxist. Starting with What Is To Be Done? (1902) Lenin said: “the history of all countries shows that the working class, exclusively by its own efforts, is able to develop only trade union consciousness.” This directly contradicts Marx & Engels' views that the revolution can only be done through the working classes directly, not toward some elite group of people. To speak of the proletariat as ignorant people who need to be forcefully led is one of the most anti-Marxist views one can have:
“When the International was formed we expressly formulated the battle cry: The emancipation of the working classes must be conquered by the working classes themselves. We cannot, therefore, co-operate with people who openly state that the workers are too uneducated to emancipate themselves and must be freed from above by philanthropic big bourgeois and petty bourgeois” - Marx & Engels, to the leaders of the SDP
By 1923, even Lenin saw that what had come of the soviet union was nothing more than the czarism that the workers had fought so hard to overthrow, only with a red-colored flair.
“I am, it seems, strongly guilty before the workers of Russia,” is how he started his last speech, of the bureaucratic system that formed and would soon strengthen with Stalin's grasp of power.
As Anarcho-communist Peter Kropotkin said:
"Unhappily, this effort has been made in Russia under a strongly centralized party dictatorship. This effort was made in the same way as the extremely centralized and Jacobin endeavor of Babeuf. I owe it to you to say frankly that, according to my view, this effort to build a communist republic on the basis of a strongly centralized state communism under the iron law of party dictatorship is bound to end in failure. We are learning to know in Russia how not to introduce communism, even with a people tired of the old regime and opposing no active resistance to the experiments of the new rulers."
And another anarcho-communist Alexander Berkman, whom originally fell in love with the Russian revolution so much he came to visit Russia and witness the sight, but after going through Kronstadt and all that the Bolsheviks did, left with the words:
"Gray are the passing days. One by one the embers of hope have died out. Terror and despotism have crushed the life born in October. The slogans of the Revolution are foresworn, its ideals stifled in the blood of the people. The breath of yesterday is dooming millions to death; the shadow of today hangs like a black pall over the country. Dictatorship is trampling the masses under foot. The Revolution is dead; its spirit cries in the wilderness.
High time the truth about the Bolsheviki were told. The whited sepulcher must be unmasked, the clay feet of the fetish beguiling the international proletariat to fatal will o’ the wisps exposed. The Bolshevik myth must be destroyed.
I have decided to leave, Russia. "
Socialism will never be ushered top-down, it must be brought out directly by the people.
I do know what you are talking about, the September 30th movement.
Suharto funded death squads that systemized rape. Suharto himself embezzled almost $1 billion from taxpayers
@@kshproductions7996 And yet Lenin continues to be proven right, just look at Amerikkka...
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Capitalism feel just like larger scale Feudalism?
It is very similar indeed, with classes being redefined from the lord to an employer and such. Just with technology and industrialization
I'll correct you.
You're wrong.
Free and voluntary exchange of agreement between individuals and entities is nothing like the feudal lord or baron forcing you into servitude by threat of violence, destitution, exile or death. ✌
@@GospelofGabriel let see.......
You Are being forced into servitude by threats of violence (hired goons and starvation), destitution (being shunned and outlawed, essentially being denied a community and a home to live in), exile (prison) and death (assassinations, coups and extrajudicial killings by either the police or the fanatical supporters of capitalism).
So yes, capitalism is basically just feudalism with more bells and whistles.
That just sounds like slavery with extra steps
@@GospelofGabriel Ah yes, It has its certain characteristics similar and excluded some and disguised some. Thank you.
"If you compare the lies of many, eventually you'll discover the truth that they tried so hard to silence."
I don't remember where I heard this, but it is something I think about often.
My grandmother and my family and I lived in the USSR. We came to America when it collapsed. My grandmother is still alive (93) and she tells me how great life was under socialism. People supported each other (bartered). Even today, they say how much better life was for everyone. I grew up in America so I was taught to oppose socialism and communism. So, for a long time I was defending capitalism. The free market itself is not the problem, it’s human greed and corruption that does. The same corruption existed in the Soviet Union.
Mad Max to Imperator Furiosa: "Sure, we're living in a post-apocalyptic wasteland now, but for awhile there, the Dow was really soaring!"
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How exactly are we living in a post apocalyptic wasteland exactly? Is it from all the protesters running around destroying shit? Or is it orange man bad, so therefor country bad?
this dude is really making me question everything i was ever taught about socialism and its flipping my world on its head
Glad to hear it!
I'm happy to hear this too! :)
I kind of feel sorry for being so ignorant on it. Sorry second thought
@@SecondThought what’s your favorite socialist/communist country? If u could come from one, what would it be?
@@sofakingwetahded9331 the ones that aren't sanctioned
I work at Safeway, we throw away so much food. And food is so expensive… just give it to churches and they will give it to the poor. But, we digress
Capitalism had it's stride. Now it's striding to doom, so humanity needs to try something different.
Something we failed to mention is how Capitalism literally monetized healthcare.
Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness (so long as you can afford it).
I once believed the same story that market based ecosystem is inherently bad. Then started to read more about the alternatives.
This video also failed to mention that communism doesn't work on large scale effectively. It only works as an idea. Without logical human game-theory. Sooner or later power concentrates in communism and makes it slow and unable to be effective. End game is that this centralized top-down government starts to fear their own citizens and see them as an enemy and concentrates too much effort to make sure they stay in power. Capitalism is far from optimal but personal incentives and self-regulation are better tools at the bigger scale than small villages.
@@cubertmiso You just described the fall into authoritarianism. Which all forms of government are susceptible to. That isn't unique to communism. It is uniquely defended from BY communism though. Capitalism breeds and encourages individualistic thinking at the expense of the collective. I am more important than WE. Communism on the other hand breeds collective thinking. I am part of WE. This societal mindset is the best defense against authoritarianism regardless of which form of government you have. The only attempted large scale-communistic states have been hamstrung by the US and it's allies through economic warfare.
@@cubertmiso I think you still don't understand Communism, it is in theory a state of utopia, no money, no government, everyone works according to their ability and receive according to their needs. "One for all and all for one"
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness *(for all who want it)
How else do you pay doctors, medicine manufacturing, other things of that nature?
23:49 As a chilean, seeing La Moneda being bombed in there hit me hard. No matter how many times I've seen that same video, it always gets me. If socialism really is that broken system condemned to fail then why does it need so much help in doing so? Why did the CIA had to spend so much money in our country financing the right wing parties, the fascist guerillas and bribing the truckers to not work? I wish they'd just let us be. I hope they do so with our bolivian brothers who are just recovering from a similar situation. Also, long live the likes of Thomas Sankara or Salvador Allende, they are truly inspiring people.
I feel you, from Argentina. In the 70s and 80s, our US-sponsored dictatorship's sole purpose was to "end the communist threat" that is, to disappear, torture and rape anyone having socialist thoughts. The IMF loaned huge amounts of money to the dictators, indebting all of us for generations to come. I hope people from the US gain consciousness so we can all start making a better future.
Hasta la victoria siempre hermanos
"If socialism really is that broken system condemned to fail then why does it need so much help in doing so?"
- A wise dude on the internet
@@javierrodriguez4218
USA only exists because of capitalism, without it the entire United States will crack like the ussr, plus socialists actually just do the same after they got their dudes on the seats of the senates or whatever you call it. This is what the bitter truth looks like, socialism and capitalism are all imperfect
@@yourdoppelganger I'm not sure what your point is. Are you justifying what the US does? Do you think there's no point in trying to change things?
As someone who works and pays taxes to get them back as free health care, education and affordable housing instead of in billionaires pockets I'm glad I don't live in the US
Don't get me wrong, people who work harder and smarter will get higher pays, there will always be rich and poor, private education/healthcare sectors will be available for those who want to pay extra, but EVERYONE regardless of their class will be provided the necessities they need to live normally in a country that actually respects its citizens.
Hello everyone, I'm from Russia. In general, exactly the same thing happens here as you do, with a few exceptions. Not all the achievements of the Soviet Union have yet been ruined by our capitalists, but everything is moving towards this. For example, we still have free medicine, BUT, its quality is such that sometimes it can only get worse.
This video does an excellent job of presenting the problems of the current system and setting the direction in which to move. But how to move? What exactly needs to be done? I think this difficult and very important issue should also be considered by the author of the channel.
Study Marxist literature for a deeper understanding of the issue, study history, study political economy and remember:
No one will grant us delivery,
Not god, nor tsar, nor hero.
We will win our liberation
With our very own hands!
Workers of the world, unite!✊🚩
Wow, fellow comrade!
Can agree with all the points, free med care in Russia is bad (that's why I study it. We need a lot of specialists there).
How to do socialism? Educate people, unionize for now. Think about the economy and other aspects of the state too.
And special thanks for including L'Internationale. It really is the song that helps find comrades afterall.)
This actually made me cry. I’ve become so frustrated by how capitalism and greed has infected once innocent things like cinema, RUclips, social media and then I find this channel. Thank you for sharing mate.
Replying to help fight the algorithm.
im 99.99999999999% percent sure if you or anyone else here made it as big as Jeff or Elon you would be the same or worse
@@animeepisodes7442 Yeah, so we should dismantle capitalism.
Eeee Yyyy who knows, I know I’ve never been interested in vast amounts of wealth. I’ve never chased the high life. My sister for example worships the kardashians and is addicted to lottery tickets.
@ashy Completely is the only solution
"They call it the 'American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it"
- George Carlin
That is so incredibly accurate...
Depressingly there's a large overlap between people who love Carlin and people who love capitalism. Like, what do you think he meant by criticizing "the system who threw workers overboard thirty f**kin' years ago"??? It's the same people who don't think systemic racism exists but love Dave Chappelle.
So those who claim and/or actually live the American Dream are de-facto asleep? Save catchy proverbs for the kids buddy.
@@Elipilification "I'm living the American Dream and I'm not asleep. Checkmate, socialists!"
@@uncleskype9651 It's not abut "checkmate socialists" buddy, I am showing you how the original commenter's statement is incorrect. Just because you aren't living the American Dream doesn't mean that nobody is. Yes, I can see how a lot of people aren't and something has to be done about that, but this doesn't mean that nobody is, do you agree or not?
These are very good videos. I will be sharing them regularly. Really packed with information, well organized, and and great delivery.
Great Video right?, come to Venezuela and enjoy socialism, I can tell you now this video is what they told us back in 97. The exact same thing. Its like its written by the same person.
I come from Vietnam and believe me, Socialism is a tool of collective exploitation and will only bring eternal poverty. Vietnam and China are currently following a Capitalist economy. But our country still has only one Communist Party, full of corruption and people like me have no voice.
I come from Vietnam and believe me, Socialism is a tool of collective exploitation and will only bring eternal poverty. Vietnam and China are currently following a Capitalist economy. But our country still has only one Communist Party, full of corruption and people like me have no voice.
You sir just got yourself a new subscriber. This was premium content, thank you!
I've lived through two "once in a lifetime" economic crashes, within 15 years of each other. I estimate we'll get another one before 2030, maybe 2035 if I'm being generous to the US.
I have to agree with you.
It makes my blood boil. Listening to the sneering older generations tell the younger generations that they’ve never had it so good. As they comment from their fourth luxury cruise of the year.
2030? You're being optimistic. The next one will be in the next five years. Possibly sooner.
Next one will be in 3 years, minimum.
If it keeps at this rating, capitalism might fall in the next 10-20. And don't forget the climatic changes, that will hit us hard, all around the globe, by 2030, and will be irreversible. I'm from Portugal, born in 2002, from a family that only has till now my sister going to college, my dad with a 7th grade, and my mother who finished high school with low grades, and with a precarized job, and my dad has a taxi driver. We have many problems in our debts and ways of living, and it always annoyed me the fact that they think we can't change the world, and just say "It's life, we need to deal with it". Also, many people reffer Portugal has a "socialist" country, because we mostly had a "socialist" party in power (which isn't a socialist party, but a pure centrist) and a social-democrate (which is actually a liberal-conservative party), but we are a very capitalist one
Slow down there. We're not even remotely done with the 2nd one.
Hopefully the CIA doesn't poison this video like they poisoned Hugo Chavez.
Well they did well with Hugo
also like how they poisoned his other video about them...
I expect Second Thought will go missing soon.
They already shadow banned his video on the CIA.
They have poisoned this video ruclips.net/video/_2khAmMTAjI/видео.html
thing is...no one would willingly choose working in a factory over chilling at home and writing symphonies and playing videogames. Pretty soon the abundance you speak of would end quick due to falling production. I like the sentiment, but videos like these never flesh out the day-to-day scenarios enough for me and explain how these socialist systems would be sustainable over time, just that they would work cause socialism.
There are separate systems where a socialist system can work with unequal wages, as long as the workers obtain the value that they produce. For example, sewage workers would be able to earn higher wages to compensate for the nature of their work. In fact, it's possible that a more limited and refined version of the market can be used to exchange goods and services, while banning the megacorporate abuse of workers that is present in capitalism.
@@pinruihuang8463Huang Cheers for responding to me Pinrui...I've been looking into these socialist ideas over time also. Your points about workers obtaining "value that they produce" and sewage workers being "able to earn higher wages to compensate for the nature of their work" are fair and I concur. But my question is, in a world of video games and symphonies vs sewage, how many human beings would willingly choose to pursue the latter? and since without utilities like water sewerage internet and electricity, modern amenities disappear....
how do we even get flushing toilets lol
@@alvinmwangi Well, what I'm saying is, similar to society today, people willingly choose to maintain sewage plants because a) they're interested in keeping our world clean and b) they earn good money. I propose a system that, similarly, has government control and subsidization in which the value of their work is realized and they are well-compensated, even more so than videogame designers.
The book “23 things they don’t tell you about capitalism” is blocked in the us, land of the free
I remember when I studied Sociology in Sixth Form and we learnt about Socialism and I was so confused as to why the teacher was making out like it was bad when in reality...it benefited him! The more I learn about socialism and the more I become aware of the economy of my country (The UK) and having experience working for large corporations that don't care about you, I've come to the conclusion we can't continue with capitalism. For me, it's personal because it's pretty impossible to move out and find my own home unless I want all of my money to go to bills which as a result will leave me stuck in the mud for life.
We need to operate in a balance system where we don’t lose the ability to have choices but have the protection that we need as humans.
Its not impossible its just difficult
Because the ideals of socialism cannot be successfully established by governments ruled and financed by those with the most money. The ideals of socialism work best when people apply them in their personal lives. Even things like "healthcare for all" quickly devolve into a non functional system that doesn't care about the individual. I say this as someone living in a mostly left wing-centrist driven country.
There's some good things, but not as amazing as they are painted once you actually have them in place.
I also was radicalized by taking a sociology class a few years ago. Sociology should be mandatory!
@Nova Flares agreed let's not try socialism again. Every time it has been implemented in a nation that nation crashed and burned 🔥.
"an economic system is just one way to structure the monetary relations of a country, it's not a national culture" say it LOUDER for the people in the back
But it is do
capitalism influecnes everything, so it has made itself into american identity and culture. Base and superstructure, the base is economics, it influences everything else.
Well, it's very complex and difficult to pin down but correct me if I'm wrong about this: You think trade doesn't influence culture right?
Then make a new system that works better. Socialism doesn't work. That's why the socialists like Hasan Piker and second thought who tells me how horrible my life is as a worker as if I can't think of that myself. Their solution is that we should just let everyone do what they like and it will just work somehow.
@@darkwolf4434 That is exactly what I am working on, as an economist its important to separate yourself from a system that is inherently flawed and instead work on solutions
You sir are an American hero! I am so happy that you and this channel exist. Thank you for dispelling the darkness of propaganda!
You should talk about how the US had ultra socialist policies with immense tax rates for the rich right after WW2, which led to the boomer generation to grow with plenty of social safety nets that helped them gain their wealth and then actively fought to get rid of that system to prevent newer generations from benefiting from it.
A fair argument at this point might be if economic intervention is equal to socialism. Of course New Deal's way of capitalism is much less worse than neoliberal policies today but I would say that without abolition of the private property of the means of production it couldn't be called socialism.
@@AlejandroFernandez-mq3jl Yeah I'd say I agree with that. Just to add, I believe economic intervention has a socialist principle at it's core. Private property and the capitalist structure of the economy are inherently oppressive systems, therefore they can't be considered socialist. In the meantime, any reform directed towards undermining these oppressive systems could be called socialist but not if they're intended to validate the perpetual existance of said oppresive systems.
Most of those rich you speak of didn't actually pay 90 percent. Plus our spending power is shit now more so than back then
@@gabrielrae7647 that's also true today and I'd say that it wasn't to the same extent. It still speaks to a government that attempted to collect more from the rich than they do today. What is your point exactly?
@@jeanttbs the point is that the rich didn't actually do what you claimed led to social safety nets and the boomer generation.
"Contrapoints is the biggest channel in breadtube"
" No, there is another"
It's not really breadtube unless it's presented by a bisexual theater kid who uploads every three months
I love Natalie that was just a joke
@@jeffersonclippership2588 Philosophy tube?
@@Spectrum16 lol yeah, Ollie is great too. Just wish everyone didn't feel the need to copy him and Natalie.
I don’t really see the point in “competing” for being the biggest channel. That’s what communism is about: collaborating. From my point of view, it is not only pointless to compete but also distracting from achieving the goal to make most people’s lives better.
This channel is better as this one looks professional.
The communist manifesto should be mandatory to read in high school. Karl Marx's is so different from Stalin reading a book on Marx's and his communist ideas. Great video for times that are changing.
Oh man this video is scaringly good because i used to be a big fan of capitalism until now …
I come from Vietnam and believe me, Socialism is a tool of collective exploitation and will only bring eternal poverty. Vietnam and China are currently following a Capitalist economy. But our country still has only one Communist Party, full of corruption and people like me have no voice.
Damn. As someone who used to be very pro-capitalism, this video is a wake up call. this is a great video. Thank you.
Welcome to the right side of history. Capitalism is destined to fail
Co-operation is human nature. We owe Capitalism nothing. It has served its purpose. When it came in it was revolutionary but it is now stagnant due to its inner contradictions like feudalism was. Its simply time move into an era of cooperation and need based humane system.
Do whatever just watch out for the Manny corrupt party's like the social-demokrstic workers party of Sweden they are really just mild capitalists that try to squeeze profits
I'm a little careful to trust assertions being made when a lot of the information its built upon is demonstrally false. I mean he builds his argument on the claim that depressions are caused by people "being squeezed" after "prices go up and wages go down." it doesnt take much research to find out that wages increase during expansions and decrease during recessions. I would counter this information by looking at Ray Dalio's widely popular RUclips video that explains debt cycles and how they're responsible for economic cycles.
I also recommend renegade cut
Whenever I talk to people about socialism, they tell me it’s never really worked before. But now thanks to you have have a better understanding of the cases where it has worked. As I listened to your video, I looked up things on my own. The differences in the way American and British media outlets speak about these leaders versus other sources is mind boggling. I’ve been a socialist for a while but I’m only recently learning about how much work the us puts in to keep its citizens unaware of other options. The veil continues to lift.
Nothing ever works - not because the system per say is bad or incapable of achieving something. It's us - humans. The unconscious drive everyone has with the greed and how corruption will always exist, thus no system will ever work. It's all just a cute little dream.
The reason why it has never work is either because foreign interference (he's discussed this in another one of his videos) or autocratic governments (dictatorships, to be exact,) lie to people, seize all control, and parade around as something that they are not. And that is what people who trash socialism don't understand.
I think it's also important though to learn from the failures of socialism. I would say one of the biggest of the Soviet Union (Beyond the police state and autocratic rule but that's obvious) is the anti-religious rethoric. It made them a lot of enemies in other countries especially America and the association of socialism with an attack on Christianity is still here.
However socialism and Christianity are not incompatible, they actually compliment each other. What the Soviets should have done is channel Orthodox Christianity and make it central to socialism itself. Of course impliment religious freedom but also frame it as a moral right and moral duty to provide for your fellow man like Jesus wanted you to.
It's why China is being so succesful as they don't hold on to socialism's flaws out of dogma but actually change it according to their needs. Capitalism in the 19th century was very different from today and socialism needs to evolve as well.
We need to keep in mind that the biggest thing are the core values, the actual specifics can and should change depending on the situation.
@@MrMarinus18 i think the seperation of church and state should be a big thing tho. Of course, there should be religious freedom, for ALL. That means, no Religion is seen as more accepted than the other, and EVERYONE has the right to practice their religion, as long as it doesn't harm others. Having a whole economic system supporting just ONE religion, that would be a bit much, no?
@@annaantoinette I view the seperation of church and state very similarly to the seperation of corporation and state.
Capatalism is feudalism with extra steps
Socialism is a correction to capitalism, when capitalism doesn't allow profits to trickle down to the middle class and the poor due to greed. Ultimately, greed is the down fall to any country or economic system, and no economic system is a reflection of the people who live in any country; moreover, it's only that of the people who control said country.🤔
"This is Marxism. And Marxism is based on the belief that no person has any value as an individual."
I fucking burst out laughing lmfaoooo
"Marxists want to destroy all life as we know it" that was the funniest shit
Capitalism is based on the belief that no person has any value outside a job.
@@Objectivityiskey don’t act like a moron
@@Objectivityiskey Don't pretend you read Marx, or that you're even remotely smart enough to know whether he was a moron. You just out yourself as a cretin. Anyone actually able to make an insightful critique of Marx would recognize he clearly was very intelligent, even if they disagree with his conclusions.
@@Objectivityiskey
That is true.
Look at Mitt Romney. He spent his career gutting companies.
Buy the company
Separate the assets from the losses.
Fire all of the employees.
Steal their petition in bankruptcy.
Walk away with a cool 5 million.
While 200 families are now out of work.
Anyone that does that should be in prison not running for president.
No one is worried about a mom and pop factor. That is capitalism for the people.
Large corporate raiders are killing Americans.
Give me any evidence to the contrary.
There's enough in this world for everyone's needs. But not enough for one mans greed.
Anyone ever asked you what the Deadliest Sin was?
When I asked that, I answered two things. First, I said it was a person to person thing. Some will say Arrogance or Gluttony. I said Greed. The emotion of "Whatever "it" is, I want it!" This is especially true when someone doesn't need to acquire any more than they already have and someone else might benefit from getting the thing that they want more. Now Greed is often attributed to Money, but that's just one of the many things that a person can take more than what they need.
Yeah and once people have their needs met they will want more.
The belly is never full.
Capitalism absolutely follows the laws of supply and demand. It just so happens that supply is based on profitability.
Agree with the capitalism flaws, but I think you are not considering that a company invests tons of money so that workers have where to work. So, it’s not only the workers’ work what produces the goods, it’s also all of the capital continuously invested.
Damn, so I`m actually not the only one that feels like there`s a growing hate against capitalism and that change might happen within our lifetime
I don't know how much this contributes, but as an American teenager, many of the other kids I know are very much anti-capitalist to varying degrees. That being said, I do see that the red fear that's been ingrained into us since we were little still having effect. Despite never agreeing with the ethics of capitalism, I still found myself for years trying to convince myself I wasn't a socialist; I've gotten over that now, mostly, but I still catch myself trying to align my thoughts with what I've been baby birded as 'good' despite knowing that in reality, it isn't.
@@kalleranta2260 I'm starting to believe Peace is just another illusion, and it will be for as long as we are irrational animals.
And if peace is unattainable in our lifetimes, perhaps the proper angle is to ask ourselves *who* should we be waging war against?
@@Lucan47 I can't say I agree to that. Why do wars happen? Because a need for resources, because a group if bigoted against another, things like that. Bigotry is taught and something that can be eradicated, left to the sand of times. Resource wars mostly come about because Group A has something Group B wants, but doesn't have access to - again, the behavior of Group A is not a product of nature, it is in defiance of our nature as social creatures who, for as long as we don't have our empathy crushed by a culture -which is sadly common-, want to help each other.
@@autumnox2174 culture has made us and or mentality but it's you and me who create the society , it's not just about war, conflict & aggression on daily bases come out of our separation which in national or tribal lvl brings about wars , it's in our daily life between all of us , me verses others ,my belief my opinion my nationality my values .... Everything that self is made from , leads to separation so conflict is always inevitable , the only way that conflicts end is that every human understand that we're all one humanity and self is just byproduct of thought and ideas , only then love and compassion can be ,and brings about fundamental change in our consciousness
@@Lucan47
Peace is like any goal. You have to work for it.
The G-7 needs to stop making and selling weapons.
When two countries in the world decide to go to war the G-7 steps in and Cuts off all support.
Everyone is afraid and that is what war is about.
Thomas Senkara...WOW. I cant believe I've never heard of him. What a truly great man. RIP
he really was a great man
The trial of his murder finally got a date.
What about Gaddafi? Also a revolutionary socialist that was doing good things for his people and was assassinated and his country destroyed by NATO
@@1000xtati Got a bad rap like every other leader not willing to kiss the west's ring
@@CMorse-xn3fs not to mention groups like falangists trying to take credit for him
So many languages and you choose to speak facts
Chinese here, just want to raise 1 problem.
Boom-bust cycle is not a sign of instability under capitalism and is quite the opposite, the sign of capitalism working just fine.
first I would want to call "capitalism" neo-feudalism, in which the serf is the 3rd world country and the aristocrats are the first-world country.
at first countries like the US would hype up new tech and dreams like 'AI' to draw investments around the world, which made the world's asset price and stock market go up, then when the bust happened, because everyone was borrowing USD, they need to sell the asset at a low price to the US gov or company to make up the debt, then money in the stock market would free up and go to new investment, exchange for more product made by cheap labor and start a new cycle. this without global competition is a perfect system, as the US is the head and its citizens would have the wealth of the whole world, although they just get the crumb it's all enough to live the American dream.
one thing is your fast food workers living a better life than typical Chinese or other mid-class people in 3rd-world countries.
this would be fine and dandy only if the world is in a "free-trade" system where countries are providing whatever they arrange to provide by the USA, like China for cheap labor goods, Africa, the mid-east for materials, and Japan, Europe for cars and other products, and if you want to move up the value chain or start your trade without involving the US, you would meet US's army invasion and color revolution as punishment, as Iraq wants to trade oil without USD, and Japan is making more advance electronics than the US.
This could be observed as the Asia financial crisis made the US stronger, and aside from China, every other country is far worse than the US. If China does not finish the value chain upgrade, capitalism could actually live much longer than you think.
The funny thing is Obama at the time wanted China to join the G2, which is a good solution for the US, like promoting China as the side-kick of the US, and the CPTPP is also a good solution for the US, playing the neo-feudalism game.
Now the problem is that China has moved up the value chain and started selling China dream, which goes directly against the American dream, which makes the US cannot suck the fund from the world, which then makes the stock market cannot crash, and the money would be stuck in the stock market and cannot change into actual products.
all of this means if the stock market crashes this time, I cannot imagine what would happen to the US, and maybe socialism is not the answer for the US this time.
b-but socialism is when no iphone 😥
Socialism but ??????? Buy ifone? Covfefe???????
Good. 😐
What is true ownership?
I think we could do away with little metal bricks that are purposely made worse every year under a veil of innovation.
@@ToxicTerrance you wouldn’t be typing now if it wasn’t for the popularization of the first iPhone. Not defending apple, but they are important. People aren’t going to make products Willy nilly, the human condition is inherently greedy and you cannot modify it otherwise
"The only reason i am able to support myself now is because i got lucky"
So many people who argue against socialism cannot accept that fact for themselves...
Exactly true.
These are the same people that "Thank god" upon achieving anything.
There's a big disregard for the effort it takes to grow a business in the minds of american working class I think.
You are so right and have vested interests in refusing to recognize that fact
@@nadeoki I totally agree about the god thing, i think its disrespectfull towards ones supportsystems (and even gods creation and therefor god himself) to always just "thank god" for all the great things that happened, even as a catholic- if god gave us free will it is individuals choosing to be generous, friends, help and support to gain way bigger chances to create success.
And again, basically refusing to admit beeing kinda lucky in many ways.( just had to think about Stephen Colbert (60 mil.$) thanking god all the time...)
that's where the perfect world fallacy comes in
they act like it's everyone's karmic destiny to end up wherever they end up
Correct. Imagine a developing country have better life fulfillment, general happiness, good health, working less and earning more, it would absolutely encourage other nations into socialism and so the US and another powers will do anything to make that idea never gets a foothold.
Our family lost our house during the housing crisis. It was terrible
It’s called the American dream because you have to be asleep to achieve it- George Carlin
@@shannonossman3473 i mean, it is true though, so not so horrible.
@@shannonossman3473 care to explain?
Agreed lol
*You have to be asleep to believe it* I had to correct it since context is everything.
@@ravageroosgamecorner543 yes
"The same thing always happens to them; coups, assassinations, or American intervention"
*America laughs in "Spot the difference" games*
Lol
Plot twist: the coups and assassinations were American intervention as well, just of a covert sort.
@@AntithesisDCLXVI that's the joke
@@darrishawks6033 LUL flew right over my head duhr thanks
Gen z are just tired of working hard knowing it would get them nowhere. No wants to climb corporate ladders we just want good health and wellbeing yet we don't even get the bare minimum to survive
I agree with you. As a former citizen of the GDR I have to say, we didn't have so much like the middle class in the FRG but what we had, we shared. For example: We didn't have homeless people, we had kindergarten for all children. We threw it away in march 1990 (people's parliament election GDR) for bananas.
You speak with such passion on these topics. :)
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@@PistonAvatarGuy Holy shit how many times do people have to explain it? Norway is NOT socialist. Social Security Nets are NOT socialist economies. Norway today and the US even back then were very pro-free market.
Socialism is not when the government does stuff. Jesus.
@@PistonAvatarGuy Again, Socialism is not when the government does stuff. Practically every country today has embraced some form of Third Way Economics. Hell private consumption in Norway still outmatches public consumption, and even then public enterprises are marketized.
@@PistonAvatarGuy THAT’S NOT WHAT A MIXED ECONOMY IS. Have you not taken Econ 1? Capitalism is the state of a full on free-market economy, socialism is the state of a full on command economy, you cannot mix those two states together. Norway no where near PUSHED close to Socialism. Please don’t call yourself a Socialist, Social Democrat fits you so much better if you wanna be like that.
@@PistonAvatarGuy Holy fuck you’re LITERALLY just repeating what I’m saying. Most of Norway’s economy and consumption is LITERALLY private. Jesus. No wonder you guys can’t win elections anymore.
Anyone who studied economic history in any detail knows that free market capitalism is more or less not a thing that actually exist.
My economics professor has said that the free market can’t be truly free, but it must have rules. Otherwise, “corporate socialism” could ensue (my words, not his).
It's paradoxical in a way. If there were truly no rules and you wanted to keep it that way, you'd have to establish a rule saying that it's gonna stay that way. It's like that "this sentence is false" brain-teaser thing.
Or the other way to look at it is that the entirety of human history is "free market," in the sense that governments and laws are just things people have mostly agreed to. They're not exactly on the same level as natural laws-- I mean, try staging a coup against gravity. So people are free to set up governments, give them authority to create laws, and hold the capitalists accountable to them. There's nothing saying it absolutely has to be that way, or any other way, for that matter. This just how a bunch of individual people's actions have added up. Very similar to the way that supply-and-demand sets a market price.
@@frigginjerk not sure where you were going with the high-concept analogies, but the ideal "free market" in economics mostly refers to "no barriers to entry", "perfect competition", "perfect information", and a bunch of rather unrealistic philosophical theories. in practice, every market has some barriers to entry, some far more substantial than others. there is practically no such thing as perfect competition or perfect information, and indeed, most profits come from abusing one's advantage in competition or information. even supply/demand curves almost never meet at a "natural" price point.
on the other hand, economic theory isn't meant to reflect reality in exact terms, but to provide concepts and frameworks with which to better understand how economics works. that however, does not preclude economic conservatives from preaching catchphrases like "regulations hurt the economy" or "corporate rights", which are neither true nor reasonable.
sidebar, i think what you mean by "free market" is probably 'social contract' - of which, the rules pertaining to the economy are one such example. social contracts are also a theoretical concept that does not involve actual lawyers drawing up contracts; yet when certain social contracts are institutionally formalised (say, in a constitution or legal bill), then an authority can be formed to enforce the terms of that 'social contract' - which by then would be called 'law'. in short, social contracts are informal agreements between groups of people that help maintain a certain standard of expectation, thus avoiding outright chaos. the 'free market' is one type of social contract.
I don't know one sane person that advocates for a completely unregulated system
I believe the closest thing to an unregulated "free market" would be libertarianism and that is definitely one economic model we have zero evidence could work, expect for the rich and powerful. But many on the right love the idea even though the logical end of that would probably result in a return to feudalism. I think most people would agree we already have corporate socialism and late/end-stage capitalism in america.
Rule of thumb: if america doesnt like something or someone, those things/people are most likely the good guy.
For a long time I thought I was a centrist, this video made me realise how far left my views actually are.
I am going to argue that you are probably still a centrist. The far left is people like Che Guevara and Carlos the Jackal, who violently oppose capitalism and imperialism with literal deadly force. Wanting workers to be paid what their labor is worth and give food to hungry people is as dead centrist as you can get.
Marxism has never been leftism thats a liberal term , marxism its outside of left or right .
Centrism doesn't exist.
Also the Political compass is bs.
You have the left with Marxism-Leninism and its derived from thoughts (Maoism, Hoxhaism etc), and Anarchism and its derived thoughts
@Darklorddestroyer14 Centrism doesn't exist because you have to either have capitalism, or socialism(or degrade further back from captialism), it's simple.\
Market Socialism is still Socialism and Social Democracy is still capitalism.
@@h3nder like there is no year 0? or something like that? Neat
here before youtube demonetize this video
I would love to make some money on this one considering how long it took to make. Fingers crossed!
$5 a month goes a long way to giving RUclips the middle finger and helping capture hearts and minds for this much-needed revolution.
RUclips won't demonetize this video. They may be rich bastards but they agree.
@@SecondThought I just learned this, kind of mind-blowing for me: ruclips.net/video/42_-ALNwpUo/видео.html
I'm pretty sure his entire account is demonetized at this point.