kat talking | a note to the fandom

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @st0rmat_night
    @st0rmat_night 9 дней назад +123

    i feel so bad for kat. she's such a nice person and her writing is amazing.
    (i loved all her characters mostly because they were very relatable,,,)

  • @CheapTrAsh
    @CheapTrAsh 10 дней назад +200

    None of the VAs deserves ANY of the horrible things people put them through!

    • @CheeseGobblerAAAAAA
      @CheeseGobblerAAAAAA 9 дней назад +3

      Will wood mentioned??? 🤨

    • @CheapTrAsh
      @CheapTrAsh 9 дней назад +4

      @ yes. He’s my absolute favorite musician

    • @Charaloveschoclate
      @Charaloveschoclate 9 дней назад +4

      especially when they are getting private message about the horrible things

  • @TheLoneClaw
    @TheLoneClaw 9 дней назад +136

    This is so heartbreaking. I *loved* Kat's writing. :(

  • @MkziiNaEL
    @MkziiNaEL 9 дней назад +37

    I can see and hear the pain and hesitation in her voice and V-Tuber model :(

  • @Tori_Cloud
    @Tori_Cloud 10 дней назад +134

    The fandom has been terrible to kat. But whats worse is that I havent seen an apology from those who have hurt her, but instead SHE is the one apologizing when she doesn't have to. She said sorry a few times when she shouldn't even have to, and she was crying. I know there are many bad things about this fandom, but this is super dissapointing, this time they took it too far.

    • @Sky-vt9cu
      @Sky-vt9cu 9 дней назад +4

      Yeah :((

    • @jamiethecringequeen
      @jamiethecringequeen 9 дней назад +5

      that’s been bothering me too
      they’re either too scared to or they don’t care

  • @maxwellsweirdzoinker
    @maxwellsweirdzoinker 10 дней назад +176

    I'm an ex-TSBS fan, and the amount of harassment and drama in this fandom is insane. Some of y'all need to learn how to not like things without actively hurting people over it. Y'all can not like Kat's writing without being rude and awful towards her.

    • @Theo.waffles
      @Theo.waffles 9 дней назад +4

      Fr 😔

    • @Sansnessundertale
      @Sansnessundertale 5 дней назад +2

      In an ex-tsbs fan to, unfortunately had to leave the fandom cause of being a fan of many other things and just life.

    • @maxwellsweirdzoinker
      @maxwellsweirdzoinker 5 дней назад +1

      @Sansnessundertale For me, it was simply of how toxic the fandom had become to where I couldn't enjoy the series knowing the creators were also getting harassed.
      Those are still very valid reasons and also other reasons why I left the fandom myself 😭😭

    • @Theo.waffles
      @Theo.waffles 5 дней назад +1

      @@maxwellsweirdzoinker fr- I mean, I'm still a fan but- it's unbearable how toxic fandoms or communities can get- and how quickly too- its unreal.

    • @maxwellsweirdzoinker
      @maxwellsweirdzoinker 5 дней назад +1

      @@Theo.waffles Recently I have noticed how quickly fandoms have been turning toxic. Of course, no fandom is perfect and toxicity will always be a part of fandoms. However, when it's one of the only things I see about that fandom or in the fandom's content, then it's gonna remove some people.

  • @AdriannaOrtiz
    @AdriannaOrtiz 9 дней назад +65

    As a person that is in the tsbs fandom im disgusted how some people think its okay to harass kat...
    Shes an amazing writer and a great person I hope people will stop and just leave her alone...

    • @shailypanchal-bf3bx
      @shailypanchal-bf3bx 7 дней назад +1

      real like if you hate a character why hate on the actual person thats messed up

  • @_stinepinne_
    @_stinepinne_ 10 дней назад +53

    People: We need more female characters that’s not 1 dimensional
    Also people: Earth is too perfect

  • @Sunrises__Channel
    @Sunrises__Channel 9 дней назад +26

    #WELOVEKAT #WELOVEKAT #WELOVEKAT #WELOVEKAT

  • @Moon_Crow18
    @Moon_Crow18 9 дней назад +42

    And this is why I hate people sometimes. Kat, Davis, and Reed don't deserve this. People need to keep their negative comments to themselves. I really liked Kat's writing. This is just messed up.

    • @TheSun_IsDone-i1u
      @TheSun_IsDone-i1u 9 дней назад +1

      Exactly. People aren't giving the VA's the respect they all deserve. Davis, Reed, and Kat are AMAZING, and people need to stop hating :(

  • @jamiethecringequeen
    @jamiethecringequeen 9 дней назад +15

    Kat is such a sweet person, she does NOT deserve any of this :[

  • @enate9234
    @enate9234 9 дней назад +27

    5:34 NO! This is why I was scared to watch this! I don't want to hear Kat cry man 😢😭
    PS: Kat! Don't feel sorry for crying it's natural

  • @Iaminyourwallllsssss
    @Iaminyourwallllsssss 9 дней назад +44

    Hearing Kat cry broke me beyond belief she deserves the world and more. people are so baffling man, I want to hug her so so much

    • @lunarxnutella
      @lunarxnutella 9 дней назад +5

      it takes a lot to make me cry, but hearing kat cry did it for me. she shouldnt have to be going through any of this.

  • @Ikiiiii_0320
    @Ikiiiii_0320 9 дней назад +16

    I’m so happy she’s okay over all I know she’s still hurt but she’s okay and that’s what matters

  • @joltyflare
    @joltyflare 10 дней назад +63

    I can't get over the fact that RUclips in the description thinks "Cassie" is referring to the singer LMAO
    But yeah thanks for sharing this honestly. I didn't realize Kat spoke about it anywhere else but the whole situation was disheartening

  • @creativewizkidaiden
    @creativewizkidaiden 9 дней назад +6

    I absolutely LOVEEEEEEE Kat’s writings and characters, I hope she knows how much happiness she brings to us.

  • @Opaqueguy
    @Opaqueguy 10 дней назад +77

    Aw man this is really sad people really need to stop hating on Kat and the females in the shows in general like these ppl don’t NEED to do this for us! They do it out of the kindness in their hearts but there will always be that one person or group of ppl that will ruin it for no reason. Like why would you make a kind soul like Kat cry? Are these ppl proud of themselves???

    • @K4T_LUV3R
      @K4T_LUV3R 9 дней назад +1

      Kat is the kindest person I have met

    • @Opaqueguy
      @Opaqueguy 9 дней назад

      @@K4T_LUV3R fr

  • @brij.9661
    @brij.9661 9 дней назад +8

    Kat - you shouldn't be apologizing to those a-holes. You're a wonderful writer and VA. Earth is a beautiful character. You stay strong girl. And even if you do leave the shows, those of us who understand won't judge. If you do stay we will back you. No matter what. 100%. You're a talented, wonderful, kind person. Stay strong.

  • @Yippie_skippi501
    @Yippie_skippi501 9 дней назад +27

    Dude Kat,Davis and reed put in a lot of effort in these shows! We should be grateful Kat still might be voicing earth,dazzle and Pollux! I feel awful for kat and the rest of the VA’S!
    Also can I say something real quick? If you hate earth that’s fine I’ll here you out on why you hate her. But harassing the voice actors to the point where they don’t want to work on the show? That’s way to far guys. (Ps not talking about everyone in the fandom).

  • @Ch1p_chips
    @Ch1p_chips 10 дней назад +51

    None of the VA's deserve any hate people put them through :(

  • @RattTheChaosGremlin
    @RattTheChaosGremlin 9 дней назад +3

    There were times i stayed uo re-watching LAE episodes. Kat's roles in those episodes i re-watched the most were some of the things that helped me when i got over stimulated. Kat, nor do ANY of the Va's deserve ANY of this! Kat shouldnt be needing to apologize, the people who hurt her and the other VA's need to apologize. Earth is a comfort character of mine. And kat plays her SO WELL. It breaks my heart that people are acting this way. Kat's writing is AMAZING and so is she. At the end of the day. THERES A PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCREEN!!

  • @IactuallylikekookiesUwU
    @IactuallylikekookiesUwU 9 дней назад +20

    Omg... She started crying omg i feel so bad..

  • @Doodle_Stahrs
    @Doodle_Stahrs 9 дней назад +9

    Honestly, I really like the writing with Earth I feel like the first year was really inconsistent and mostly focused on the fans as much as it was fun to watch it was also just weird at times I was a little weirded out by the astral's at first but they've really grown on me a lot so has Earth too, at first I didn't like how she was such a therapist but honestly looking back it's just cause I related to her hardcore, I love Earth and the writing of this year and I do Love the Eclipse and Earth duo lol

  • @emberfr9920
    @emberfr9920 9 дней назад +15

    Aw, poor Kat sweet girly

  • @duckmaster7868
    @duckmaster7868 8 дней назад +2

    How could people be so rude! I never really noticed that people were being extremely rude to Kat and Earth's character until all the stuff came out about it, but this is just heartbreaking! I personally LOVE Kat's writing ❤️❤️

  • @gracebowling4083
    @gracebowling4083 9 дней назад +51

    I. Want. To. Hug. Kat. So. Bad. She. Does. Not. Deserve. All. This. Hate.

  • @FairyCatSkylite
    @FairyCatSkylite 10 дней назад +33

    I don't hate earth & my opinion has been that way since awhile ago. I hate how people are being so verbal about their hate not only for the character but for their writing too, then direct it at kat. it's not nice at all, it's not funny, nor is it really necessary. if they don't like the writing they don't have to watch the show. she shouldn't have to apologize for doing what she likes. people are allowed to have opinions, but you shouldn't push it to such an extent. I know she says she's okay but I hope everything gets better for her. she doesn't deserve the hate, none of the VAs do.

  • @christophermaurina7300
    @christophermaurina7300 9 дней назад +3

    I don’t know what to say about this, hearing kat break down at 5:34 made all my insides lock up, I see she’s still recovering, but those who made her feel like this are not welcome in the fandom anymore!

  • @RuthPhillips-t9o
    @RuthPhillips-t9o 8 дней назад +4

    As an empath. I was Crying while watching this the entire time. Kat doesn't deserve this, The others don't deserve this, NOBODY DESERVES THIS. the people that did this to them should be ashamed of themselves. Kat has nothing to apologize for, she done nothing wrong!! (To whoever did said horrible things: DISHONOR ON YOU, DISHONOR ON YOUR FAMILY, DISHONOR ON YOUR COW!!! >:[ )

  • @ordinarystranger6667
    @ordinarystranger6667 5 дней назад +1

    Kat is such an amazing beautiful person, and it’s so upsetting that people are acting like this over her characters AND other female characters.

  • @-BL00DMOON-
    @-BL00DMOON- 9 дней назад +4

    I thought Kat's writing was rlly good :( I don't rlly explore the fandom _too_ much so I didn't know this was happening, I hope those fans understand, but, prob not 😟

  • @Silyoco
    @Silyoco 10 дней назад +23

    Aww man I hate ppl who are like that ppl who just constantly hating on shit they shouldn’t be because who the fuck are they to make fun of a character that everyone else is OK with and put the character down and give it extremely amount of hate that’s fucking bullshit

  • @cosmic_strawberry
    @cosmic_strawberry 8 дней назад +3

    It's so sad this happened 😢 I hope these so called "fans" who harassed her get out of this fanbase and realise they aren't welcome. Kat and the rest of the team put so much work into the series and they don't deserve this :(

  • @EclipseTheDorito
    @EclipseTheDorito 7 дней назад +1

    She such a nice person of what I have seen of her like obviously I don't know her in real life but she doesn't deserve this and honestly the fact that they have to come out and say anything about this is crazy to me and it makes me so sad that she's getting this much hate and this goes for any VA none of them deserve this at all

  • @Luminishipper-1098
    @Luminishipper-1098 9 дней назад

    I feel so bad for Kat she doesn’t deserve this and she doesn’t need to apologize

  • @Moonpie454
    @Moonpie454 6 дней назад +1

    If you don’t like what’s happening in a channel don’t.watch. No one is forcing anyone to watch the sun and moon show or the lunar and earth show. It’s people having fun and going an AMAZING job the work is so impressive and well done, Kat dosent deserve her hate she has done nothing wrong she’s the sweetest person, she wants everyone to be happy and enjoy the shows.
    It’s so sad to watch this happen it sucks to watch Kat being mentally effected by this
    Hope it gets better Kat we love you ❤

  • @Theo.waffles
    @Theo.waffles 9 дней назад +10

    When and why did these sexist, mean spirited, people get to this/these show(s)?? Its not right, whatever your moral righteousness is set- but its not needed and unwanted negativity, OUTWARD- negativity. Be negative. But if you have nothing nice to say, dont say it at all- im working on that myself, sometimes- sometimes!? No. A lot. I get emotional a lot, especially when mood swings hit, and I've been trying my hardest to suppress letting out crazy negative comments and others should try- at least try, to suppress those too- to just keep those comments in and not let them out and ruin other peoples moods or days. I dont understand how people do that and think that theres not repercussions to rude actions like that. Its icky and mean.

  • @azulathesunmoonsimp8939
    @azulathesunmoonsimp8939 8 дней назад

    Kat, I am so sorry that all this has happened, Earth is one of my top favorites in the TSBS, I always loved her personality and how she slowly started to be more assertive and sassy and such, and it sickens me that people have been so Awful to you over fictional fucking characters…
    It probably doesn’t mean all that much but I just got a kitten today, and I’ve named them Dazzle, off of (obviously) Dazzle the Deer, one of my favorite characters you voice act. I wanted to honor the shows and how much you, Davis, Reed, Matt, Flora, Kay, Austin, everyone who runs one of the channels, mean to me. (In the most non-parasocial way possible- TwT)
    You didn’t deserve any of this, none of you deserve harassment over fiction and things that aren’t real.
    We love you Kat

  • @TheSun_IsDone-i1u
    @TheSun_IsDone-i1u 9 дней назад +4

    All the VA's on the show do not deserve the hate they get. They work hard to put the shows together, and the characters and the plot are amazing. You don't have to like all the characters, but really? Harassing the VA? That's too far :(
    I know that not all people are like this, and a lot of the people in the fandom are lovely! But I HATE how toxic the other side of it is. People don't give Davis, Reed, Kat, or any other VA's the respect they deserve, and its truly frustrating

    • @TheSun_IsDone-i1u
      @TheSun_IsDone-i1u 9 дней назад +1

      Also, it was to the point where they told her not to go on Discord or AO3 or whatever because of how bad it was. She was also crying! She shouldn't be the one apologizing. I'm sorry Kat, and all the other VA's, for how horrible this fandom can be :(

  • @hebertcharlesful
    @hebertcharlesful 9 дней назад +2

    I've been trying to figure out whats been going on cuz i see comments like "why r people doing this to kat" and im like "whats going on" and i dont know if its just her writing, or if she did something else that the fandom really didnt like. im so lost- help me-

  • @kyflysupreme7727
    @kyflysupreme7727 9 дней назад +2

    Poor Kat

  • @noyes6316
    @noyes6316 10 дней назад +19

    OH MY GOD i had no idea this was going on what the hell...my heart is breaking...

  • @Sansnessundertale
    @Sansnessundertale 5 дней назад

    I’m an og of the security breach show as a whole, and I will say, true og’s don’t don’t harass people, even if the character isn’t well written (which earth is well written character they don’t know what they are talking about).
    But unfortunately I think that most og’s of tsbs have all grown up now (to the point to where they don’t have time to watch the show anymore), which leaves more of this generations people (no offense to this gen), the bad toxic kind, to come into this fandom and mess things up, like this situation here.

  • @Lunar99812
    @Lunar99812 9 дней назад +4

    People need to get a life that isnt being rude to people go do something with your life if you are one of these people kat is so nice and doesn't deserve any of this

  • @BBC_news-up4kc
    @BBC_news-up4kc 9 дней назад +3

    The only place i see comments that are not negative, is on the youtube comment section itslef.

  • @Aurum_impling
    @Aurum_impling 9 дней назад

    I'm glad to see that Kat is doing.. Somewhat better?- I hate how she feels like SHE needs to apologize though. She really doesn't have to, especially considering what she is apologizing for; it should be common SENSE and DECENCY to not fuckin' harras a VA over their characters and how they act, even if that VA is a also a writer for said character / show. People are allowed to write their OCs however they damn well please.
    Some people, Istg- There are so many people I wanna beat some sense into with a steel folding chair.
    While I will admit, that it took me a bit to consider Earth as one of my top five favorite characters from the shows, she is there among them. Though, I'll also admit that any delay in having her there, was more to do with me than it was her?- She's always been relatable to certain extents (a good majority of the Celestial family has been, at one time or another, tbh), and for the longest time, I had a hard time liking characters who're similiar to me..- Struggled with loving myself. I still do at times, but- Via loving fictional characters, I can kinda trick myself into doing it.
    I know what its like, to want to be perfect, to feel like you have to be perfect for those around you.. I know what its like, to carry the emotional burdens she carries; I've always kinda been delegated to being 'the therapist friend' in most of my past ''friendships'', if you can even call some of them that.. the one who pulls everyone else out of a dark spot when they can't do it themselves.. Barely ever having time for my own, because I don't want to return the emotions that have been placed on my shoulders. Or make it someone elses problem..- And the chronic pain, is another layer of relatability!- I feel sorry, for how much more exhausted and tired of everything, thats probably going to make Earth, in the long run..
    Feel like I've rambled on for too long, and maybe got a bit too personal. Uhh, anyways, I'mma shut up now- My heart, once again, goes out to Kat and the others.

  • @K4T_LUV3R
    @K4T_LUV3R 9 дней назад +4

    WHAT HAPPENED ???? I am so late to this

  • @ThomasClark-k8q
    @ThomasClark-k8q 10 дней назад +11

    Where can I watch the stream

  • @Ralphtigercraft368
    @Ralphtigercraft368 9 дней назад +6

    Seriously anyone I got disrespected Kate on even if what they were doing is a pretend thing for an entertainment sing it's still not okay to go doing those kind of crap towards her or anyone they deserve more better than that don't take everything so seriously the point where this kind of issue happens

  • @SAMS-LAESFan
    @SAMS-LAESFan 9 дней назад +2

    I understand why people hate on the characters because some of the characters such as Earth for example can be a little out of hand. Yes Earth has a lot of her own problems to deal with and she puts pressure on herself but Earth needs to address them herself as well because one. She keeps bringing up her issues with her dad and doesn't bother to move on past that. Two. She's friends with a abuser who lunar has negative feelings towards. Yes, I think asking to be friends with a certain someone that has caused nothing but hell is a BIG ASK because why would you be friends w someone's abuser especially how it's angering to see someone such as ur own brother. I feel like Earth should've been more sympathic maybe that's not the term but at least be in someone's shoes. I feel like Earth needs to fix on communication and maybe understand why Lunar did not tell Earth about his issues. As for the whole hate thing w you, Kat. I feel as if the hate is unnecessary, if you have problems w the lore keep to yourself or don't watch it anymore. If people don't like how Earth is then it sounds like a them problem. Eclipse and Earth are a good i guess "combination" but they cannot ignore the past.

  • @Starcats_67812
    @Starcats_67812 9 дней назад +2

    5:32
    Sad

  • @AnnetteGaleas-m4j
    @AnnetteGaleas-m4j 9 дней назад +1

    I hate all the haters for this like don’t even watch if u we’re a part of this bc ur no gonna have to appreciate them but don’t give hate like that like get out Kat dose this stuff and she gets hate like WTH 💔

    • @AnnetteGaleas-m4j
      @AnnetteGaleas-m4j 9 дней назад

      I loved her writing so much now those stupid haters who did this took that away thanks for that 🙄

  • @RandomDoodlesIDo
    @RandomDoodlesIDo 9 дней назад

    Dude… I LOVE Kat’s writing for LaES so much… I despise the people in this fandom (that I’ve stopped interacting with) who oversexualize almost every character (Sun, Moon, Dark Sun, Ruin, etc.), hate on people like Lunar for not owning up to mistakes while actively endorsing and defending Ruin (I’m guilty for that, unfortunately:(), saying crap about Puppet (NOOOO I LOVE HER AND HER FLAWS AND WRITING AND NEJEHDHUWHSHD) and Earth while ignoring all the crap Moon, Sun, Monty, Foxy, Ruin, Eclipse, Lunar, and so many other male characters have done.
    The fandom can be sexist and hypocritical, and even goes so far as to privately message VA’s just to tell them the show sucks. I’ll admit I’m no angel, I love characters like KC, Molten, Ruin, etc. while I dislike characters like Lunar for doing considerably less worse things. But I would never dream of sexualizing a character or hating on a kind person like Kat because I dislike one choice Lunar made… like, that’s the whole point of the story, is to give characters flaws..

  • @lilybrockbank
    @lilybrockbank 10 дней назад +8

    Is earth