Reality of Medically-Induced Comas
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Aron Welsh, ICU physiotherapist, ICU survivor, and author of the book, "Never Really Over", shares with us the graphic reality many ICU patients face during medically-induced comas. He reveals common roots of post-ICU PTSD that many survivors carry with them the rest of their lives. He helps us understand that continuous deep sedation often does not provide ICU patients the peace and "sleep" we assume while they are on mechanical ventilation.
Im trying to get over my horrible vivid nightmares while i was in my medical induced coma and ventilated for about 10 days. Its been a year later and its so hard. I finally seeked help. I go to church and talk to a therapist. It gets better your not alone. None of us are. I pray for everyone who has gone through this because only we understand eachother. 🙏🏼
please tell me what you saw, i was under for 21 days and i’m trying to move on from the hell i experienced
I was in a coma for 10 days as well. The hallucinations after they took the tubes out and I became somewhat conscious- were insane !!!! I hallucinated to every sound I heard. The dreams after were disturbing. I was absolutely terrified after it.
Its "You're" * not alone, not "your"
Ive not experienced your experiences, but please trust me when i say i do understand. Our humanness and our singular experiences we often feel cant be understood by anyone other than those who have had the same things happen to them , i dont beleive thats the truth myself. I might not understand the subtleties and semantics of things but my humanness makes me seek to not only empathize but to genuinely listen, process and take to heart the things people tell me about their experiences such as yours. You arent and never have been and never will be alone, we are all in this together and we are all here to walk each other home. This incarnation, suggests that there are other incarnations. One love one heart, we are all parts of the same thing and my very nature is to desire to understand my fellow human to the best of my ability.
I was in coma as well, trust me @Aleks…. Only we understand each other. It is marked in our memory and soul forever. I was in coma for 3 weeks, it felt like 1 1\2 years. I went thru horrors, like little short movies, being tortured, both physically and mentally in each and every of those episodes. It will stuck with me till my last breath.
Bro I'm crying right now with my memories of the coma, I was on a vent too and so few ppl understand but I'm a writer too and I've written about it. You have inspired me ❤
I was in a medically induced coma for 5 weeks I think it's horror should be exposed thank you bro for making this, I haven't been the same since ❤ stay strong, you survived 😢
I've said the same thing. If Doctors knew what we were experiencing maybe they would find another way
How long did it feel like you were exposed to that dream state?
I was in a MIC for 3 weeks due to internal bleeding from perforated stomach ulcers. I had the most horrific nightmares and absurd dreams. They haunted me terribly and were crystal clear afterwards. I decided to start a journal which ended in a book. I haven't tried to publish it and I still remember everything in detail. I am looking for a support group or someone to talk to that's been through something similar.
Did you have any symptoms with those perforated ulcers?
I had necrotizing fasciitis and sepsis last year and was in a coma for a month. I had 4 dreams over and over again. 3 were HORRIFIC 1 was a dream of my mother which I looked forward to because I was not frightened or in pain. I'm not the same and have flashbacks and HORRIFIC dreams. Now I'm on mental health medications and in treatment. The physical effects of my illness can't hold a candle to the mental effects I'm dealing with. Wish you well.
I totally agree with you, Mental scares seem to go a lot deeper than any physical scares, I dont have dreams anymore but I remember each Nightmare in deep detail! Take Care and keep doing what makes you feel good!
So kind of like a thought loop
How are you healing from the necrotizing fasciitis?
Yea it's so different from a simple dream.
They are too vivid and real and lengthy that they just stick in your head unlike normal dreams where it's easily forgotten.
I also find it's hard to communicate what the dreams were like because emotionally they are so intense but they don't always make a lot of sense.
Hope you heal from the memories.
I was in an induced Coma a little over a month ago from kidney failure and then respiratory failure. I couldn't breathe at all. The Dr. called a code and I woke up a few days later with the Dr. at the foot of my bed asking me if I knew where I was. Of course, I knew I was in I.C.U...
He told me they had to induce me in to a Coma. I was shocked especially when he told me I was on Dialysis. My mind could barely handle the news. I couldn't move my arms, legs or talk. Scared to death as I continue to listen to the Dr.
He said I had to have dialysis the next day which I did and it completely drained me as if I had nothing else to give. I gave up. They could tell I was severely depressed and this is when they told me I was going to pull through and my chances of getting off of dialysis was almost 100%. I didn't believe them because my kidney number went up to 8.9. Days later it continued to drop and finally to a 2.6 which is low enough not to be dialyzed. It should be at a 1. Pray for me!!!! I'm not out of the woods yet. I go back to see my kidney Dr. in a few days to see what my number is. I can't handle dialysis 3 times a week. I don't know how other people do it. I do have other health problems that would make it harder for me. I know I'm Blessed to be alive and God gave me another shot at life. My Dr. even told me that they don't give people hope with numbers as high as mind but he said he has to save my life. I let him leave it at that and believe it wasn't just him saving my life.. I don't remember anything while I was in a Coma. I don't remember the respirator being put in or being taken out and so thankful for not remembering anything at all. GOD BLESS THIS MAN AND ANYONE THAT'S IN OR HAS BEEN IN A COMA. You don't just get over being that sick in a month. I will have a good day and take 2 steps back so it's a long process of healing your mind and body. God will get me to the finish line and already out of the hospital and rehab. I thought I could just bounce back like I did in my younger years but being 57 is completely different than being in my 20's. Praying for all of mankind....God Bless You Alll
Spot on I'm 62 now I died in 2019 put in an in duced coma organ fair kidney dyalis 3 times. I had to learn to walk again talk again. I could control my own bowels. I was sent home a total wreack of a women. I over come my bowel problem. No way was going to be left like that. As for the women I used to be well Iost her in that coma. I will never mentally be myself again
The dreamscape is a pretty messed up place sometimes. And it's extremely agonising on the mind and the body when you're not moving very much. So naturally the dreams become more painful more tortureful. I've had similar experiences whilst in jail sleeping 23 hours a day.
I have been in a medically induced coma. I have short term memory loss because of autoimmune encephalitis. I kept having seizures and could not stop which is why I was placed in the coma. My heart goes out to you.
My forner fiancé was in a coma for just over a week. He told me that he'd experienced terrible things. He's been gone a long time, but I still try to understand him (he was a complicated man). I know they were terrible, but hearing accounts like yours help me feel a little bit closer to him again. I really feel for you.
I cant thank you enough fot this....i spent 4 weeks inna induced coma through covid and still cant understand why im here....
I was in a 32 day coma journey and it was more awesome than any of my 59 years here. I traveled and hung out with Santa on his private island...I feel like I died in december of 22 and came to life in January of 23 but I am not the same as I was.
Yes I will never be the same , I need help but don't no where to turn
Hi Pamela, I experienced a similar at a very similar time, 28 Days coma between November of 22 until December of 22, Physically I'm getting back to a reasonable level of fitness but mentally its difficult, I still remember the nightmares I had through that period, Keep Talking with people who understand your situation and it will only improve! Take Care and Good Luck.
I was a victim of a violent attack... Spent 90 days in a coma... Needed open heart surgery. Tracheostomy. Was another 3 months after he train all functions... I honostly felt like it was no different from a 10 hours of sleep. It's the after effects that I suffer with... The hardest part is there is almost no one to talk to that truly relates... But that's life I guess. Put on a smile. Hold your head high . And don't let the masses know your suffering...
You see in his face he was horrified. I know that feeling. I was in a 7 day induced coma. It was horrific. It been 6 months. I don't understand why I went through such a nightmare. I've made in my life, but, nothing to justify the Hell I went through. I will never forget.
I was put into an induced coma for 6 weeks after I went into respiratory failure in 2021. It has changed my life and how I now cope. My "coma dreams" werent bad but i find it tough even now to recognise that my "coma dreams" weren't real. I still have such vivid flashbacks. No one understands how it felt for me to be woken up unable to move. Needing to comprehend i had been in a coma and still were facing a choice. Take the risk of treatment and hope it works and i can relapse or having surgery and being placed back into a coma again. Also having to be told over and over again that things i were saying happened, didnt happen. I still suffer not just physically from it, horrendous peripheral neurapathy in all limbs, but mentally it is hard. Learning to hold things, talk, eat, walk, toilet took allot, emotionally, mentally and physically but the confusion on my experience is horrible, mentally. I know. Its confusing. Thankyou for this. Feel better for sharing a little bit.
Holy shit, this is me. Unreality can be so terrifyingly real.
Hi Aron, I recently spent some time in an Induced Coma for roughly 5 weeks, I have been looking for somewhere to discuss my experience: ie: Night Mares at the time and what I remember of the experience now, I have tried discussing this with close family and friends but I struggle to continue with the conversation as I watch their face change as I tell them of the terrors I went through, I have only ever told my brother some of the extreme stuff but I know I still need to hold some back with him. I have seen from your brief clip that you experienced something similar to me, especially the looping nightmares! Can you recommend a support group ideally online. Many Thanks
you are not alone my friend
It feels like it , I will never be me again. 2019 I died .they bought me back with an induced coma. It has changed my life. Mentally. I feel I'm misunderstood and not me anymore
@@carolevans5285 I totally understand what you're saying Carol, Its been 8 months out of the coma for me, Physically I'm getting there but mentally I still think back to what happened, I can remember each Nightmare as if it was yesterday! I've been looking for some sort of support group online but no luck yet! I think sharing stories helps massively with understanding how and why! Keep Talking, It helps!
@@carolevans5285 if u don’t mind me asking, what did dying feel like? And coming back also
I also feel like I'm a new person. Reborn in some way. The significance of being alive is very apparent now and when I can walk properly again (I'm still trying to deal with post illness muscle loss) I'm planning to travel and complete a bucket list I made in hospital when I couldn't move and I was on life support.
I was in induced coma and had so many night terrors and you can’t wake up , it’s was one after the other , I had to see a councillor after my coma !
Just to be clear, the giant nightmare went on for days and yet you were in a coma, where time does not exist. Pretty convincing so far.
Hi, I just wanted to clear things up, most people believe that they are having nightmares while they are in the coma which I do not believe to be true, I believe that the nightmares start once they bring you out of the coma into a lighter sleep, I also get the confusion of when because very little is explained to you because of the lack of knowledge on this. Take Care
I did think this myself as I was in a coma for about a month and i do not no when my nightmares were happening in this time but I do believe it’s when they try bringing you out of the coma but I can never be certain but it feels never ending
Yea no idea either but certainly my dreams felt endless and there were many
This sounds so frightening. I hope you get strength to overcome these horrible memories
In Jesus mighty name, please touch the bodies, souls and minds to these people who are suffering such an horrific nightmares, only you father God can heal them and put back to their normal lives, lord God,. In Jesus name I pray, Amen.
I was in coma 7+ weeks, and yes; the hallucinations are horrible (I could talk about mine here but…)…I’m with you, brother (ventilators and tracheotomies no fun!). I really hope you’re on mend.
What got me through the nightmarish hallucinations while in a MIC at 13ish was the philosophy "Mind Over Matter". Comparing what I saw to what was actually going on. Like when i thought i was getting a 7' pole shoved down my throat (like to be cooked ove a fire). In reality they were inserting a tool to aid in breathing. Or when i freaked out thinking an old woman had died next to me and i couldn't get her off me. The old woman was my grandmother sitting on the bed. Or being in a padded room. The nurses lined my body with excess pillows. I did however see my mother (even though she never actually visited). Id really like to know the name of the drug they put me on so i can figure out the active ingredients that caused the hallucinations.
I am a coma survived too, 2021, covid pnemonia sepsis etc, 20 units of blood transfusions , lots happened but I will never forget the vividness of those dreams plus nightmares , I was trapped in some sort of social experiment it was pure craziness and then the delirium after waking up wow, then had to learn to walk etc etc , mad times
Same for me last year when I had septic necrotizing pneumonia I acquired in the community, I had no idea what I had, I thought I just had the flu. I had every kind of scary dream racing from geometric shapes, pulsing lights in dark space like places, hearing my family but not being able to see them or talk to them, vivid Disney like visuals, spiritual, travel, and holiday experiences, I thought all of it was really true until I was pulled off the sedation slowly over a couple weeks and my family had to explain that those experiences were not real. It was really unbelievable and it is something I don't wish on anyone.
I survived an overdose and because of how severe it was they kept me on a ventilator and induced coma/life support. I'll never forget the vivid dreams i had. My mom told me a few events that happened while i was out and that's when everything clicked, my dream felt like what was happening but different. My mom told me that the first time they tried getting me off a ventilator i was starting to get agitated and my oxygen level fell really low and i guess i got combative, trying to rip stuff out, etc. once i was told that it sounded so familiar because I remember i had a dream where i got into a fight or something (Dont completely remember) and i was throwing a lot of right hooks but it felt like something was holding me while i was fighting so i couldn't hit as hard. My mom told me i was trying to hit the nurses, and was trying to hig them with right hooks.but like my eyes were closed at the same time. I obviously don't remember. And i remember some things too and dear god i still remember the delirium too. I was seeing things but nothing bad. My mom told me that I'm lucky because some people when they wake up see aliens, or have random hallucinations, etc. i just accepted the fact i was there because i thought i was in rehab. Little backstory, i had just gotten out of rehab not long before the OD, but didnt feel like i was ready and told my mom that i need t 7:40 o go back. Used the excuse that since I'm going back to rehab why not just use until im back in and i relapsed. Never thought this was gonna happen but yeah. Im almost 8 months sober
I was in a induced coma for 10 days a few months ago. I had no memory of how i got there or why. Only after the tubes were taken out and i was somewhat conscious, did the hallucinations start. I hallucinated to every sound i heard. (That's from the ketamine)To me it was absolutely terrifying- i can only describe it as being buried alive.
Due to the coma, i suffered a pulmonary embolism 3 weeks after the coma. That was another hospital stay with lots of morphine.
It took a while to walk normally due to muscle mass loss. The mental aspect takes longer. I find it helpful to talk and/or write aboutbit.
I wish you the best ! ♥️
I was shot 7 times 2 years ago n my induced coma changed my life
Mine was nothing, thank god. I was in one for a little over 2 weeks because of severe alcohol withdrawal. It knocked me out of commission for nearly 5 months. Re toilet training took nearly a month, it was 4 and a half months from the time the paramedics brought me in till the time i walked out under my own power. God bless Beaumont hospital and their wonderful people.😢
Father, please heal this man from these terrible memories. Fill him with Your unfathomable love, in Jesus' name.
I was in an induced coma nearly 4 months..from avein covid pneumonia..back in November.2020..while I was in intensive care ..sleeping i had many night mares n still do..i ad delirium..really bad..i was taking down to the morgue were they try to kill me ..or they take blood from under the bed injection ..or some people were melted down n out inside big tubes like candles..but i could see all there faces squeezed in together..like i can see mine face whn i look in the mirror...it was so real..what i felt n saw like they tryed to set a fire below me n pulled me while in the bed on top of the fire i could feel my self burning but couldn't move cause my body was stuck in the coma..i even now have night mares ..plus i have day night mares as well ..ive got ptsd now ..i dont know how to stop the night mares..plus ive got long covid as well...i was on an ecmo machine as well for 3 months..life as never been the same ...I ad a body temperature of over 62 before they put me in an induced coma 143 Fahrenheit...I know my brain was being staved from oxygen..coz there was not enough oxygen so Ithey put in intensive care were I was put in an induced coma..every day is a challenge even now the night mares are so real
I can't believe how many of us went through things like this. Its been 3 and a half weeks seem I've came out of MIC and Im so drawn into myself.
I don't remember shit until the they were removing the breathing tube, then nothing for probably 10 to 12 hours after that.
If had the same the doctors where trying t kill me I thought very strange I REALLY believed this was happening but ad true as I still be live it is very confusing an kind of hard for people to understand..take care 😢
I was put under a medically induced coma after ALL of my organs had started failing after going with sepsis without realizing the dangers of it for 1-2 weeks until i just had some sort of half seizure, it felt like my spine was twisting and i could just lie on the floor and roll.. it was crazy but i remember it vividly.
Came into the ER and not long after my heart just gave up and I was put in the coma for a looong time to let my body and organs heal, my heart was in BAD shape, brain, spinal cord, everything was f#cked up. This was almost 10 years ago on the dot and I still remember the things I saw and did while I was "put under", i wasn't aware of where I was but I was aware of myself as "me".
I was in this weird big round type of chair and people that at the time looked alien to me were visiting me and communicating with me, i remember the weird sensations I had.
It was something ive never experienced before, not really scary at the time, more just ODD and confusing and I did every narcotic under the sun for 20 years, even novel ones we had these labs overseas to swirl up for us and sent us in the mail, a lot of things you'd probably never heard of nor will ever hear of.
Theres a lot more details but i thought id keep it shortish for now.
Afterwards have been pretty though because the incident kind of set the pace and mood for the years to come and it was hard trying to get into a "normal" life. Im still trying.
Do you still have vivid dreams scary ones?
It is unfortunate that we are unable to communicate this possibility to patients before we put them into a medically necessary coma.
Unfortunately, our medical skills at this time give us the choice of risking this awful Post ICU PTSD or not surviving.
The hope has to be that we can learn better ways to provide comfort and sedation during these times.
I was in rehab many many times for heroin addiction. I met a few people that were strong alcoholics close to getting cirrhosis and drank one too many times and had to be put in an induced coma... i heard similar horror stories. Ive had very bad lucid dreams containing similar scenarios as you mentioned in your video as far as having everyone be mad at you and attacking you as they wouldnt in real life. I have always wondered that as they are still re occurring dreams. From what i have noticed is, i only have those dreams if i go to bed anxious or depressed. Does anyone think or know if maybe giving someone in an induced come anti-depressants or anything to make them happy from a chemical standpoint from "drugs" may help that induced state of mind? seems simple matter to me? has this been looked into? scary stuff
watching my gf be put into one for pneumonia feel so helpless can't do anything for her :( knowing after she heals she still will have a long road of recovery :(
They should give nerve medication to people in coma
I was in a induse coma in feb for 4 weeks. Was crazy i so the Chinese took me away on a boat. But at the same time i could ere the nurses talking to me
Wow
I went in for a triple bypass on 3/31/2020. I was put into a medically induced coma the night of my surgery and I was woke up on 5/14/2020. It was so crazy. It was horrible. I have PTSD, anxiety attacks, panic attacks.
I had very scary vivid dreams while I was in my coma. Some days I feel so alone with my thoughts and experience. I needed to go to a rehab bc I couldn't walk or talk or anything. I had lost muscle memory. I needed to learn everything over again. Some days I feel so alone and I feel like no one gets me. I have a wonderful family but even they are unable to console me some days. Has anyone had any long term affects from the coma or is it just me
It was so bad at one point that I was put on an ECMO machine. 😢
I feel the same….. I was in coma 5 weeks, felt like 1 1/2 years… the horrors I went thru is not understandable for family and friends. Only we know, what it feels like. I feel alone with it too. It’s just 6 months ago, I probably should seek help and u too ❤
@@leasoprano764 you are in my prayers
I rember seen i was fishing by a big lake and telling the ners be cearfull thay dont fall in so weierd
I’ve heard some of these as people describe as being in heaven with Jesus having experiences which were beautiful and it makes me wonder if there’s a spiritual message to some of these. The fact you felt so guilty of basically being blamed for the whole world or for what others did you were guilty of THEIR sins …. I wonder if these experiences people have are people who do not believe in Christ? Because He forgives sin if a person is saved. The other side of those who believe goingng to heaven with great experiences during the coma. Sounds like torment of a demonic nature, and some may experience feeling guilt because they were not forgiven of their sins. Versus Jesus died for the whole world’s sin so they will NOT be condemned. But unforgiven persons may experience the effects of that sin being not forgiven by rejecting Christ. Just a thought. If you are not saved, Romans 10:9….John 3:16… get free of demonic torment which continues in hell after death. And one will be free of any guilt
Did he experience hell?
unfortunately id feel sorry, yet im sure he was in a traumatic life ending situation. doctors do what they can to make a person live. a person vcant be grateful for modern medicine yet they can point out all the faults.. be on the verge of death and complain about your experience, i have little sympathy, be on the verge of death and be grateful ill have your back!
There are some things worse than death so I think this should be taken very seriously and researched more because some people might want to consider this for Advanced Directive. Also, I didn't hear him say anything that sounded ungrateful for having his life saved.
Mine went on for 28 days, some things I can talk about others to gruesome or just not ready. All of it seemed to be a life review having experienced loss of a loved one, betrayal, understanding the importance of forgiveness and love . I’m glad to see this, this is very helpful. Take care and be well.
In 2021 Easter Sunday, I was taken to the emergency room and when I got there I had respiratory failure and was put into a induced coma. 5 weeks later I came out of the coma. I had the most vivid dreams I have ever had. I can remember every one of the dreams I had 64 of them. Some were inbody and some were out of body. They were so real, most of them were so bizarre. When I came out of the coma I couldn't walk, move my arms or talk, and in my dreams, I couldn't walk or talk and move my arms. It's been over 2 and a half years now, and the dreams still haunt me. I'm still having problems with my walking, and the short term memory is really bad.
I was miniaturized at one point inside a hospital heating and ac unit. Surrounded by giant living buddhas red and blue big and fat and chanting OM. It was like a giant round dark dome stadium with me and my daughter and they telepathically gave me orders and held my daughter within this unit. That was one hallucinating vivid dream that was beyond real. I'd be somewhere else with nurses choking me and a warlock Korean doctor who drained my blood.