The USS Borie, having been refitted and still in use at this time, already gave her 'survivor' status. Kind of a shame the Navy sank her, after surviving this battle, and still reluctant to go down. Would have made a great museum ship but I know they weren't thinking about that sort of thing back then.
I’ve heard/read at least 10 accounts of this engagement and it is stranger than fiction. You presented some new details; like the bow landing on top of the u-boat because of sea conditions. I had always struggled with how they got locked together in such a way for 10 minutes; now it makes sense. It was like finally scratching a mosquito bite I couldn’t reach, lol. There was a ton fit into this 17:38 but it didn’t feel congested. Most importantly, thank you…thank you for not mentioning the potato thing. In naval history it seems like it was a meme before there was an internet.
That was an amazing story, thank you for sharing it. I would love to see a story about another Clemson class destroyer, the USS Peary which was sunk in Darwin harbour on 19 Feb 1942. She went under still firing her guns at the Japanese aircraft.
Thank you for sharing this story of the USS Borie. It's always a good day when you can learn something new!! ❤🇺🇸 I can only imagine all of the USN's ships that are still out there to be told about.... I will wait patiently for you to cover them....😎
Wow! I had never heard of this. Thanks! --- I hope you’ll do the Bogue Class like you mentioned. Just this year I realized how many there were: 45 total with 11 in US service.
I can assure you that the battles the British had in the Atlantic matter, FAR, more than the American battles in the Pacific other than the total disasters the US aircraft carriers suffered due to not admitting Brits were right to armour their flight decks. However, we are proud that although we were on our knees, we did our best to send the Royal Navy to show you how it should be done. Japanese planes actually bounced off the deck and went overboard. One did do a nasty, but didn't stop planes landing. The small hole was plugged with quick setting concrete that was still there when the old lady was scrapped years later.
As I was watching this it put me in mind of a old Robert Michium movie "the enemy below" Is it possible that this is the fictionalized version of the Borie?
Great story and covered well. Destroyers made for rather poor anti-submarine vessels. They lacked range and maneuverability. Although, Borie’s primary function was likely to screen and protect her carrier. Ending up in a surface brawl was the last thing anybody expected. ,
Destroyers were literally the best anti submarine warfare ships both then and now. I don’t think you understand what a destroyer is if you’re saying it isn’t maneuverable or long ranged enough when that’s basically half their design
I realize that in time of war and the heat of battle things happen but the storey told by the crew of the USS Borie about what happened sounds to me to be a little bit fishy.
I've read about the German sailor being killed by a thrown knife but this is highly unlikely. It is possible the knife hit him and may have stunned or injured him, but outright killing him is almost impossible. It certainly would not do so instantly, and since no German survived the fight and no bodies were recovered, there is nothing but anecdotal evidence to corroborate this story. Interestingly, not all accounts I've read about this battle include the knife story.
@@MartyInLa You are probably right. Fighting at night under such circumstances, I can understand how in the excitement of the moment something can appear different from what it really is. Just look at all the tonnage claimed by submariners and aircraft claimed by gunners and pilots. Postwar analysis revealed a much more somber evaluation that cut many of these claims in half.
@@Paladin1873 it's hard enough to hit a target on 2 moving boats in a big storm under fire at night with a real pistol with sights that were designed for accuracy.
That was an intense determined close quarters fight.
The USS Borie, having been refitted and still in use at this time, already gave her 'survivor' status. Kind of a shame the Navy sank her, after surviving this battle, and still reluctant to go down. Would have made a great museum ship but I know they weren't thinking about that sort of thing back then.
That story far outshines any capital ship action 🇬🇧
I’ve heard/read at least 10 accounts of this engagement and it is stranger than fiction. You presented some new details; like the bow landing on top of the u-boat because of sea conditions. I had always struggled with how they got locked together in such a way for 10 minutes; now it makes sense. It was like finally scratching a mosquito bite I couldn’t reach, lol.
There was a ton fit into this 17:38 but it didn’t feel congested.
Most importantly, thank you…thank you for not mentioning the potato thing. In naval history it seems like it was a meme before there was an internet.
5:20 USS Card was sunk at her pier in Vietnam by VC commandos, an interesting story in itself.
Long have I known the story of this ship, but OMG, the pictures you include are priceless! Thanks for a great story that’s well told.
Those guys were on the job. Great stuff. Love to watch your videos
That was an amazing story, thank you for sharing it. I would love to see a story about another Clemson class destroyer, the USS Peary which was sunk in Darwin harbour on 19 Feb 1942. She went under still firing her guns at the Japanese aircraft.
Since you are on the 4- stackers, do one on the Pt. Honda accident in 1923.
Great video Skynea, condolences for those lost on both sides.
Great video. I've never heard that story before.
Thank you for sharing this story of the USS Borie.
It's always a good day when you can learn something new!! ❤🇺🇸
I can only imagine all of the USN's ships that are still out there to be told about....
I will wait patiently for you to cover them....😎
Great video. I've never heard that story before.. That story far outshines any capital ship action .
Wow! I had never heard of this. Thanks!
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I hope you’ll do the Bogue Class like you mentioned. Just this year I realized how many there were: 45 total with 11 in US service.
Great story, great ship, great crew. As the Brits and Aussies would say, "Lest we forget."
Has a movie ever been made about this battle? It would be epic.
I can assure you that the battles the British had in the Atlantic matter, FAR, more than the American battles in the Pacific other than the total disasters the US aircraft carriers suffered due to not admitting Brits were right to armour their flight decks. However, we are proud that although we were on our knees, we did our best to send the Royal Navy to show you how it should be done. Japanese planes actually bounced off the deck and went overboard. One did do a nasty, but didn't stop planes landing. The small hole was plugged with quick setting concrete that was still there when the old lady was scrapped years later.
Sounds like this story was the inspiration for the 1957 movie "Enemy Below"
My Father Louis Haidt served on the Borie. My Father was injured in Bories last battle.
Awesome!
As I was watching this it put me in mind of a old Robert Michium movie "the enemy below" Is it possible that this is the fictionalized version of the Borie?
Great story and covered well.
Destroyers made for rather poor anti-submarine vessels. They lacked range and maneuverability.
Although, Borie’s primary function was likely to screen and protect her carrier. Ending up in a surface brawl was the last thing anybody expected.
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Destroyers were literally the best anti submarine warfare ships both then and now. I don’t think you understand what a destroyer is if you’re saying it isn’t maneuverable or long ranged enough when that’s basically half their design
This is so funny, BZ for Bori.
Honda Point took a few , My RN took some `G`ifts` nice one HMS Cambletown Big shout for USS Ward!
Top attack weapons aren't as new as we think
Great video, thank yo. I hope your voice recovers soon
wait you said all the depth charges were dumped then you say they had more
Much of her career was Borieing
I hope you feel better soon.Apprectiate your channel 🙂
Eventually join the US Underwater Fleet
I realize that in time of war and the heat of battle things happen but the storey told by the crew of the USS Borie about what happened sounds to me to be a little bit fishy.
couldn't be unique combat, but seems parts of Borie's story borrowed for the Robert Mitchum movie.
I wonder if her wreck has ever been found
I've read about the German sailor being killed by a thrown knife but this is highly unlikely. It is possible the knife hit him and may have stunned or injured him, but outright killing him is almost impossible. It certainly would not do so instantly, and since no German survived the fight and no bodies were recovered, there is nothing but anecdotal evidence to corroborate this story. Interestingly, not all accounts I've read about this battle include the knife story.
I was thinking the one shot flare gun kill was unlikely too.
@@MartyInLa You are probably right. Fighting at night under such circumstances, I can understand how in the excitement of the moment something can appear different from what it really is. Just look at all the tonnage claimed by submariners and aircraft claimed by gunners and pilots. Postwar analysis revealed a much more somber evaluation that cut many of these claims in half.
@@Paladin1873 it's hard enough to hit a target on 2 moving boats in a big storm under fire at night with a real pistol with sights that were designed for accuracy.
@@MartyInLa Except in the movies. 🙂
You haven't mentioned that USS Borie run over the german survivors drifting in the sea before she withdrew.
he also didnt mention that you drive a car or that water is wet....use your words, don't be passive aggressive,
@aegrotattoo9018. Driving a car & water being wet isn't a War crime as far as I'm aware.
Pig boat