The Mystery of the Saints Quarterback Battle
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This week’s film breakdown analyzes the New Orleans Saints Quarterbacks Taysom Hill and Jameis Winston. After the departure of the man, the myth, the legend Drew Brees after 14 seasons in the NO, Sean Payton and the Saints have to decide who they're going to give the keys to the kingdom. Should it be Taysom Hill who has been with the team longer and is more versatile? Or Jameis Winston who is more of a wildcard but offers much higher potential? This episode uses the all-22 coaches film to analyze the New Orleans Saints Quarterback Taysom Hill and Jameis Winston.
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Two more episodes to go before the season! Drop some episode ideas below 👇👇
The Chicago Bears and Fields?
"Just give it to Alvin Kamara."
- Saints fans
I bet he was the highest drafted fantasy player this year!
@@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly Roughly third behind CMC and Dalvin Cook. But he's second on my board.
Yes sir
Bro u actually got me rolling with this
Yeah defenses are gonna put 8 men in the box like they did with Leonard Fournette when Blake Bortles was the QB.. You need a QB that can make plays with his arm. Jameis can do that.
"Brees has practically made the record book his autobiography" may be one of the cleverest descriptions I've ever heard.
I'm a huge Winston fan. I want to see him and the saints to light it up this year
Except vs the dolphins
Fantastic research and video.
Start Winston, and use Hill just as he has been used - in rotation at QB and all over the field when not at QB.
Thank you very much Paul! Yeah, someone on here noted that you can still use Hill as he's been used while Jameis starts at QB, but you can't have it vice versa. Plus it would be weird to start Taysom at QB, then if he's not good still have him play as a gadget guy while Jameis takes over.
@@AlexRollinsNFL Taysom has been more consistent than Jameis the last couple of weeks. He has always been a quarterback at heart. He won't stay as a gadget player past this season so we would lose him.
@@joybischoff9558 Untrue. Referring to just training camp alone, Winston has 5 more touchdowns and two less interceptions than Taysom.
@@icanmakeeverythingilovedie9861 I've watched them daily put out the stats then in a day or two totally lie about them... Literally change them. My husband, brother and I carefully followed this and have been shocked and disgusted by the blatant manipulation and dishonesty. Every practice last week the immediate reports said Hill had a good day but sure enough, by the weekend the story had changed. The media is doing everything in their power to slant the narrative toward Jameis. Honor and integrity are dead.
@@joybischoff9558 This is coming from several different outlets who were there at those camps/practices, including freelancers like Deuce Windham and Nick Underhill. There's literally no gain for them (especially the latter two) to lie, and there's no way they're all coordinated enough to all lie about the same thing with the same numbers without someone leaking it. Use some logic.
Do Saints fans really have so much distaste for Winston that they have to make things up? 🙄
Imagine being a QB and having to battle a TE for your job.
The interesting similarity between Brees & Jameis is that if Jameis becomes the starting QB, both of them would have started with the franchise @ age 27 which Brees was in 2006 and Jameis is now.
That’s the last similarity
Kinda touched on that at the end, Payton has done this before!
Banger! I love it when you dive deep into different concepts and explain all the little things that make plays work on both sides of the ball. Your skills are amazing man, keep it up!
Thanks brother!! Means a lot!!
I'm personally of the mind that Winston was undeniably talented but didn't often have much talent or quality coaching around him. His coaches during his starting tenure were just not good, and the roster wasn't above average on offense until late in the Koetter era (excluding Mike Evans of course). And even in that stretch, they've never had a reliable run game to take the ball out of Winston's hands.
I think his ceiling remains extremely high and he's still quite young. I'd definitely want to see what happens if they role forward with him.
This same Winston had the likes of Evans, Jackson, OJ Howard, Cameron Brate, Chris Godwin, among others. He had the talent around him, but he has no football IQ at all.
Here’s the deal; Winston provides dagger like arm strengths over the middle and beyond. Period. Hill provides less arm strength over the top, and less arm strength with the quick throw to the TE in separation. Hill provides a quick “arm throw” to elongate the LB to extend Hill’s run to the sideline and beyond. Neither provide a clear path for our QB position going forward. In my opinion
I’m no jameis fan but that wasn’t his fault
As a saints fan I was really hyped for this one
Ian Book baby!
"He showed he was able to cycle through multiple reads" no he didnt
Yeah he did. He just throw it late, poorly, or was pressured.
@@mroverdose14 Taysom biggest flaw was that he wasn't able to go through his progressions like an NFL caliber qb.
He can get to his 2nd read pretty consistently which was surprising/impressive. Anything beyond that was shakey
In Tampa, Jameis had better weapons than he does now in New Orleans, and you would still take Jameis? I would personally go with Taysom since they don't have as many weapons and you can use his legs a little in the offense.
This’ll be a good episode
Excellent as always Alex. Just so good. Takes the NFL inside to the next level.
Thanks my man! That's the goal
Nobody knows but I believe Taysom will start because of the ceiling. You can put Taysom in and if it fails you know what you have in Winston and can fall back on it. But if you put in Jameis and he fails.. well now the pressure is on for Taysom and I don’t think that’s the position the team would want to be in
Good detailed breakdown!!!
Thank you Michael!
Damn that edit in the beginning!
This video made me realize Jameis is really smart and could probably have a long career as a starter if he didn't take so many risks
I would definetly take Jameis as well. I feel like with Taysom their ceiling is the divisional round while with Jameis it's more like all or nothing. I mean the goal is to win championships not 10 games every season. I also think defenses will find more ways to exoloit Hill's weaknesses and limitations this season if he gets the starting job.
Awesome video btw 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks TLC! Yeah, I mean if you're trying to lose as few games as possible then Taysom is probably fine, but who is trying to do that? Veteran OL and Defense too, push all the chip in and go with Jameis who has crazy high upside
IAN BOOK
Winston should definitely be there starter
The real play is start Book week 1
I went with Jameis in my fantasy draft. Hoping to grab Hill, later, but someone best me to him. The upside is with Jameis. Will be get there? I don't know, but I'll take a shot at him, rather than Hill.
HILL no comp, no doubt aka switch blade
I don't really get how you think that Winston has been losing the position based off of who has looked better in the pre-season.
Jameis should start for sure
I always thought Winston had vision problems apparently he has lasik surgery to correct nearsightedness that likely played a roll in his high interception totals these first 5 years,he wore contacts but not during games
I think Sean Payton is working on coaching Winston out of his turnover woes. I think the whole competition hinges on whether or not Winston, with Paytons help, can become a QB who offers the great without the horrible. If Payton can coach Winston out of his bad habits he's the QB1. No Question. But if he cant be coached out of it, then it's Taysom Hills job. Hill is very good at getting short coverage. But he's limited. Still, Hill is better than 30 picks for a game. So it's all about Winston, and whether he can fix his problems.
Fact is Winston sucks. Cant coach the suck out of em...
Winston will be 35 and there will be people still saying "I believe we can coach this out of him" lol
He had 3 head coaches in 4 yrs, on TB. How would anybody ever know? I mean, other than being the 3 rookie ever to throw 4000yds, throwing 4k yr 2, then 5000 yds - 2 yrs after that, and being the first QB in NFL history to have back2back 450 yd games... ya he's not worth the hassle. LMAO. He's about 1 coach short, of a different coach per season and is still less than 200 yrds from 20,000 career yds. Aikman finished with just under 33,00 A
@@vallium4940 Dude this is the ultimate excuse making lol Bruce Arians isnt some bum coach and Todd Monkan who he had as OC for 1-2 seasons is as perfect a fit for what he does well as he's ever gonna get. After Sean Payton doesnt "fix" him what you gonna say; well pull Bill Walsh from the dead for him? The reality is that coaching is quite overrated and while situations do matter for awhile, players play and eventually you just have to do better than being bottom 7 in IQR every season of your career.
Winston also has never lacked for playmakers, quite the opposite. But if hollow garbage time passing stats are what you define as talent or success then I understand where you're coming from.
@@kalilg2242 What excuse? Winston got the 5000 yrds without his ass. I said, if would've done some coaching he could've got it down to 1 pic avg a game. That's not within his fkn job at HC? You got a guy on pace for 5k and you let him throw 30pics ,too? Then get rid him like he ain't just do some shit none of ya had any idea he was capable of doing? Then theres the " trickle down" effect, where you come in it at, Like he's broke or can't play, cuz you dont know what the fk you're talkin bout, in the 1st place. Jameis Winston has 121TD/88INT for 19812 yrds career. And he didnt he make 15 atts. last year. Troy Aikman finished with 32942yrds 165TD/141pics. Winston had 4k is first 2years and 2yrs later 5k. Aikman aint never throw 3500 yards in a season. was 0-11 his rookie year.
Bucs fan since 1979 here.
Not a fan of Infamous Jameis or the Saints.
Good video!
#GoBucs
Haha thanks Todd!
Here's go boys the game before the dress rehearsal at game 😁 3
Is it absurd to think the Saints should use a two QB situational system?
Yes, QB is very much a rhythm position. Hard to bring guys in and out and expect them to develop any consistency
A true "two" QB system has never worked in the NFL for any team or coach. History has shown it to be too disruptive for the other players.
@@AlexRollinsNFL some coach is going to pull it off sooner or later.
#1 James .W #2 I.Book #3 Hill #4 lost 4 games in a round
I hope it's Jameis. Nothing against Taysom Hill personally but he is incredibly over hyped. Dude has played 3 full games at QB and 2 of those were against the Falcons defense.
Winston is used to QBing, Taysom is your Swiss Army knife.
Winston is better imo.
Use Jameis and tank. Pay off your cap debts this year and start next year with the #1 overall pick
Ooo spicy. Jameis is the ultimate go big or go home, go back to the playoffs with him or get a top 5 pick.
@@AlexRollinsNFL No offense but even with Jameis, this is not a bottom 5 team.
I have to agree, Jamies is the clear answer. I would add how Jamies had to deal with Bruce Arains scheme, which highlights both Jameis strengths and weaknesses. Jameis is that big play, gunslinger who takes every shot downfield he can, and Arains scheme is very much akin to that. The issue is Jameis wasn’t able to consistently play well and smart, as you mentioned. You put him in Payton’s scheme you get a scheme that gives Jameis his big plays but also forces him to slow down and get those smaller passes, which I think will make him play better overall. If Jameis can control is turnovers in New Orleans and still play electrically then I don’t see any reason why it shouldn’t be Jameis. Taysom is just too conservative passing the ball and can generate some explosive plays with his legs but he is a chess piece, he’s a guy you put at TE, RB, WR and expect some explosive plays with maybe a few trick passing plays but he isn’t a full time starting QB. Jameis has what it takes to be the saints future QB1 and play at a higher level, starting now and down the road. #alexrollinsplaybook
Love it man, agree with your points! Well said. Send me a DM on any of the platforms we've interacted on haha
You haven't done your homework. Taysom has been improving tremendously in off-season. Look at the numbers. Also, check his college and this year's training camp. No problems with fumbling which is amazing as a running quarterback. Last year was an anomaly and nerves.
Nawl taysom still sucks
There's no mystery, Sean Peyton is going to use them both equally.
Btw no one is “winning” atm they’re rotating 1st team starts and taysom just went first. jameis has probably had a marginally better camp but it’s close and undecided
Uh notanymore
Who else is here after Jameis won the QB battle?
bro you gotta use some different music
Winston is going to have to first 50 50 season
90 90
The *Aints* manufactured this "QB battle" - in unmeritocratic fashion - by seemingly inexplicably *REFUSING* to retain Bridgewater the year before and pay him accordingly after Bridgewater went undefeated, 5-0, for them ( *Note:* he probably could've taken them to the SB with that talent if the *Aints* didn't prove to be fools who held on to their once great, but, then, noodle-armed albatross for *FAR* too long). Further *manufacturing* was evident with how the *Aints* did Jameis Winston *dirty* by inserting Jameis in for a *SINGLE* play in the Playoffs against the eventual SB winning Bucs team who let Jameis go for TB12. Jameis promptly threw a 70 yard TD strike and had he stayed in, brought the *Aints* back and won, might've proven to be a revenge game for the ages! Instead, we have an alleged *"competition"* with a jack-of-all-trades player who isn't even a serviceable QB! Of course, *virulent unrepentant racism* is the only thing that explains the sheer stupidity of why the *Aints* chose to *LOSE* with pathetic, washed Euro-Amer. QBs rather than *WIN* with clearly talented Black QBs (in the molds of Doug Williams & Russell Wilson). Finally, Frank Reich claimed that the NFL is a meritocracy, but the sorry, ridiculous, *racist Aints* proved that to be a boldface lie!!
Dude it was Brees' last season, you really are gonna bench him for Winston on his last hoorah? And the fact that you're calling them the "Aints" shows nothing but disrespect for the franchise so I'm not even gonna bother explaining in detail how you are wrong
@@ryapowaWhat respect do the *Aints* deserve, really? They *"WHITE-Balled"* their previous Black QB (& Michael Vick's cousin), Aaron Brooks, --- who was their TD passing leader who surpassed Archie Manning --- for standing up to player mistreatment during Hurricane Katrina. Why shouldn't they *FOREVER* be scorned, ridiculed for that, alone????
Brees should've been "transitioned" the year before when Bridgewater went 5-0---& Bridgewater should've been allowed to finish out the season. Nothing explains why Bridgewater wasn't allowed to stay and be *PAID* over Taysom other than, in the face of *blatant meritocratic mockery* and a demographic majority, *"Good Ol' Boy Racism."* If they're not going to be fair and discriminate, why should the NFL be able to keep their Nonprofit status?
Nevermind their MRSA scandal and how they screwed over their NBA Pelicans franchise to where articles were written imploring the NBA league to force those clowns to sell.
We saw Luck move Peyton out so there was precedent and absolutely no reason why the very same thing was *NOT* done to Brees because Brees's game was in *steep* decline a couple of years prior to that! Even non-fans could see that. If he could still play, they should've allowed him to prove it someplace else like Manning and Brady.
If Brady and Manning could be moved for the sake of the holy grail of *WINNING,* why *NOT* move Brees in the face of multiple under-thrown balls and passes *not even attempted to wide open receivers* because he simply couldn't get the ball there, lol?!?!?!?
So, keeping Brees in there was tantamount to *THROWING* (pun intended, lol) games and looked totally egregious and entirely inexcusable. Thus, that franchise does *NOT* deserve at least 60% of that NOLA city population as a fan base. Therefore, being *unmeritocratic & downright racist* completely warrants both the scornful *"Aints"* moniker (cuz they *"Aint"* sh-- cuz they *"Aint"* trying to win!) AND the brown paper bags their fans were known for wearing, lol... Finally, they may be able to get away with it (continuing to discriminate against Jameis)---the way Payton *STEADFASTLY REFUSES* to name Jameis QB1, now, but don't expect folk to *NOT* call them out on their racist b.s. and encourage a boycott!
@@byronmims4788 Yup not reading this
@@ryapowa No matter. It's really for the 60% NOLA Population who wanna know why the *Aints* are the *Aints* and why the *Aints AIN'T* worth their time, LOL!!!
Good analytical video. Cut to the chase though anything over 25 yards Hill throws is a flutter ball. I think Hill is Payton's son and will get the nod anyway. Payton had an excellent team last year and refused to gamble with Winston who could have provided a more opened offense and maybe even into the playoffs. He stayed loyal to Hill and that lost cost them homefield advantage.
Thanks brother! Yeah, he had some ugly ugly passes deep down the field. I agree I think Taysom will start, I think Jameis would have been announced the starter by now, but we shall see!
100% ur opinion, why we should go with taysom? Wit him the saints never gonna win the SB or even manage to get into the playoffs, but with Jameis it's more possible, but it's also more possible that it's going to be a losing record when he plays like in 2019
Uh... did you even watch the video? He said they should go with Winston.
Winston is not a good quarterback u see he hold the record for most inceptions in one seasons if hill does not get the job of quarterback I will not see the saint game
Hill has a better arm while Winston has more experience
That's a joke right?
It’s an opinion actually
You’ll never convince me that a guy with 30 picks in one year has a better arm
@@Favouredmojoe he's got a stronger arm than taysom lol didn't say more accurate 😅
@@jjjohnson834 false
We know the answer, try again...
wintson is gonna suck, taysom wins the job by default
no
I cant believe this is serious debate. Hill has 134 career passing att. 4TD/3INT and barely over 1000yrds. Winston was the 3rd rookie to ever throw 4k. Game over before we've even got to season 2. He also had 3 head coaches in 4 years and before his 5000 yds 30 int season his highest amount of ints was 18 on 28 TDs for 4090 yds or his 2nd year. To put it in perspective Jameis Winston is 13 career TDs(121) shy, of Taysom Hills 134 career passing attempts.GTFOH!
Taysom 3-1 and led league in completion percentage. He's the starter
They beat the Falcons twice and the Denver Broncos who had to start a back-up wide receiver at quarterback and lost to the Eagles with Jalen Hurts in his first pro start. So I think that 3-1 is misleading.
Does the Hill play defense cause i am sure the fact hurts played well is on the defensive side. But in my opinion Hill would be better starting a multiple position guy. Not a QB.
Its simple only one undrafted qb won ring Kurt Warner and Taysom isn't him. Winston gives you the best chance to win the Super Bowl.
Dude that edit at the beginning of Jameis throwing the ball up as a Buc (to Mike Evans #13) and having it come down into the hands of a Saint (Michael Thomas, also #13) AGAINST the Bucs was straight brilliant.
Interception
Ah, appreciate that brother!
A battle isnt how much work can you get out of Jamison for free. I want Jamis out of New Orleans because Payton is running game on him. The coach certainly can't publicly give Jamison credit for anything. Jamis needs to pull a Peyton Manning. Run to the shittyest division today in NFL and rack up first downs.
@@rhyno8644 That's one of the silliest things I've ever read. It's fun to just make stuff up, eh?
@@davemccombs it isn't he started Hill over him when Brees went down last year to resign him cheap. He's being paid close to minimum. Saints doing him dirty fr
Whether you like him or not. Jameis “crab legs” Winston needs to be the starter week 1. Give him a chance to redeem himself.
It’s straight weakness to start taysom
I forgot about the crab legs LMAO
If it's even like as everyone is saying, Taysom gets it...even the contract already in place
@@tommyjuneau6329 I hope you're right but honestly, I have never seen sports media stump so hard for a player. I've closely watched the cherry picking and verbal manipulation in the favor of Jameis in shock.
@@joybischoff9558 I agree and I hate saying this but if they weren't different colors it wouldn't be this way. But we all see what's up. Nobody in sports media or the Internet wants to be called "racist" so everyone is simping for Winston and putting down Taysom.
Taysom went out against the Ravens formidable first-team defensive starters and looked sensational. His running backs kept fumbling the ball away and Ty fucked up on his route.
Winston, with a full five years of QB1 experience, performed against the Ravens benchers and barely managed to equal Taysom's performance. If Winston is such a clearly better quarterback as we keep being told, why is this battle even this close given his vast QB experience over Taysom? It's like we're being lied to. He still looks like a 30 interception QB to me. We lost that game because he threw a STUPID hero ball int right before the half leading to a Ravens field goal. He's the same guy he was in Tampa Bay!
Sometimes it gets forgotten that Brees was turnover-prone at certain points. If Peyton can also replicate that same success, then Winston should be the guy.
The book was out on breez a long time ago. The top coaches new how to read that book. Just goes to show you how few good coaches are out there.
Most nfl coaches suck and quarterback who are bust is usually the team fault unless it Ryan leaf, jaMarcus Russell or Johnny football section as these quarterback didn’t want to listen to their coach and was lazy and didn’t provide the work to be good
@@gregoryfuller9736 I'm guessing you think you'd make a good coach, right?
People get blinded by the completion percentages of Brees but like you said, Brees was also turnover-prone specially in the end of his career.
@@Hoffanheim Brees had the least amount of turnovers he had ever had in the last 4 years of his career, besides in 2004. His last 4 years he was LESS turnover prone
I thought you were gonna end the video with a quote that went something like: "As a wise man once said-let's go out and eat us a W" 😂
Hahahaha dam!! I should have crowd sourced it so I could have unlocked that gem!
I was such a HUGE fan of Winston coming out of FSU. The mentality he has shunted his growth in TB so I'm still rooting for him and think he's the better option as well but, the lack of weapons might be a blessing. He'll force anything to Top talent but, maybe he'll focus on making more smart plays when in trouble
I think most educated fans agree, that neither are the future
@@scooterallen1834 I can't say that. Bress was viewed like that. Winston has everything you want below the neck, lol. But he needs to be more consistent in not being inconsistent
Its seems easier to coach the bad habits out of Winston than to teach Hill a skill he doesnt have
@@grinningchicken it's impossible to teach/ coach a new skill at 30 in a sport that requires millisecond reaction speeds.
That's why it's so hard to switch positions even in college.
@@mroverdose14 True. A lot of zone-read QBs were never able to make the transition like Kaep RG3 Tebow Mariota and Tyrod Taylor and these are Heisman winners. If he'd started at 22 with Andy Reid as the coach maybe by 30 he'd be ok.
jameis had a year under the saints and brees. i think he’s humbled and ready. plus he got lasik surgery
Lasik jameis is my favorite story of the year so far.
I agree!!
Lasik doesn’t mean anything there has been a lot of shit qbs that had perfect vision
@@pascho1057 Yeah I don't buy the lasik story. The idea that nobody tried to get him Lasik before if it would've helped his football ability even 1% is telling that it won't make a difference
Wendizzle - what do you mean by humbled (as a positive)? To me, it means “teachable” as in whatever weakness caused my problems that were so troubling I was humbled because of myself. If a pro “want to be”in any field is a beginner he is teachable and improving so he can grow, get better and prove he can get the job!
What kills “teachable” is the “I’ve arrived” mentality. At every level of football excellence Jameis did very well!! No complaints ( don’t fix what appears isn’t broken). When Jameis proves that even though he can achieve huge NFL passing numbers, he can’t get his team to the play offs. That’s a giant IRONY. And it should make Jameis teachable regarding THE RIGHT THINGS. So does anyone know what the right things are that Jameis needs to work on - I mean really!?! The LEVEL- the play offs LEVEL is a level of play where Jameis fails. I don’t think Jameis knows what the specific pkg of weaknesses are and how to attack them and really make the changes necessary! All the pre season competition is NOT play offs LEVEL. So everyone is walking, talking, examining “Blindly”!
Einstein loved quoting Kettering, “a problem well stated (defined) is a problem half solved”. Examining Jameis at the “Right” level will get interested people truly defining
any and all weaknesses. Then Jameis can move forward correcting issues he knows he has…with a lot of help from an pros, shrink pros, maybe even a hypnotist and a lot of slow motion video!!
Sean got us a Super Bowl. I will stand behind his decision no matter what.
um sean didnt get us a sb the team did takes a team to win
To add to your analysis: The Bucs were absolutely amazing to watch when Winston was their QB, since they had someone who was willing to risk everything on every play, sometimes winning, sometimes losing, but always keeping the tempo up. For the viewer it's way more exciting.
It’s the coaching brah they run these home run or turnover ass plays it fucked Brady a couple times last year cuz that’s not his game neither 😂
@@hoodthoughts2k164 True, but Jameis was always someone who threw a lot of picks.
But watching Taysom Hill run every play certainly has its own entertainment value
If I'm Winston, I'm not sure I want to start on this team. His player stock is just starting to come back, but a bad year with the Saints will crush it permanently.
Better to be the overlooked talent than the sacrificial lamb.
his player stock is coming back only under the condition that he starts and kills it. So thats what he has to do
Thats the attitude that keeps people on the bench. If you are the man then you know you are the man and you want to be the man. Only boys hide from responsibility.
@@saintzig You sound like a coach. Good luck this year with whoever starts, and please sweep the Bucs haha.
That’s bitch talk. Start and prove your good, otherwise retire
what kind of shit is this lol
Winston should be able to win the starting job but these are the conditions under which a team ends up drafting a QB in the near future.
Sadly I agree. QB question marks don't usually lead to good things
I love drew brees, but cmon now, ONE super bowl? Eli Manning has 2. Nick Foles has 1. You can have as many great regular seasons as you want, but youre just an Aaron Rodgers-shit ass packers franchise pairing otherwise. The recent saints are not that special of a talented team around their quarterback
As a Saints fan ppl forget Drew had seasons where he has thrown 17 or 18 ints in those seasons he had 5,000 yds😑
Very true! He got a little more conservative the last ~5 years and the INTs plummeted
You should do a video about the Bosa's. Title it "Mob Boses." Compare their technique and abilities and give your opinion on who's better!
Dumb idea
@@SlowMoebius Perhaps, but Alex will find some inspiration from this and will figure out a way to create an engaging perspective on this. Both great talents.
Suggest something then, happy to hear your thoughts! (:
@@raymundolopez3816 Not a horrible idea but he already did something similar
@@mroverdose14 I told you he'd do it (:
@@raymundolopez3816 he did videos on each individuals but you right and he did what you asked
There's some kid from notre dame by the name of Ian Book yknow
Out of respect, I always check out your channel! Always reliable 😉
Thanks Brandon
haha like drew funny j
Winston can throw SIXTY INTERCEPTIONS this year!!
Fully agree. Winston shall be the starter. While he has ugly INT stats, I agree stupid (mental) mistakes can be erased with good coaching... And it shall be kept in mind Winston was always among the leaders in Y/C. Ofc with longer passes more Ints come with it. Can't be blamed on all of them.
But since Payton is the HC, Hill will be the starter in week 1. Goodbye Saints. The dark era starts...
I think you have to go with Winston. People freak out about the picks but in reality its not much worse than Brees was for most of his career. Brees threw a lot of picks in the prime of his career. Including a 22 pick season and 19 pick season. Thats pretty comparable to Winston. Especially if we call 2019 an fluke since everyone throws more picks with Arians. If you think that Payton is a good enough coach to make Hill a starting caliber QB, then you have to assume that he is good enough to make Winston more efficient. The things Winston can do at QB are things you learn after years of experience, experience that Hill doesn't have and the Saints don't have time to give him. If you think Payton can cut his picks to the 15-17 range that Brees was usually at then you absolutely have to go with him.
What battle ? You can clearly see Winston is a better QB then Hill. The 3 games that hill won when Brees went down was due to the saints defense. Hill is getting paid very well as a do all player at over 30 years old. I think he signed a $50-$70 million dollar contract. I doubt if Winston makes 3. Winston is in his 20's and a very good QB that the saints got very very cheap, all Payton and crew had to do was work on his on field decidion making, if they did that and not put all there attention on Hill that small investment in Winston will payoff big time. Now even Winston know if he takes the saints to the playoffs it's time to get paid. Do your thing Jamis Winston and get your money !
I love how the clips match up with who and what your talking about
I think Taysom is the move the Saints aren’t gonna win a ton of games and their defense and offense is much better being conservative. It beat the Bucs twice already and with an elite oline and Kamara gaining extra efficiency do to the qb run game that’s how they could maaaaayyybe get to the playoffs. With Winston I see no chance unless that Lasik really fixed him. Either way this isn’t a Super Bowl team.
Screw both of them . Use the Drew jr. you drafted . He'll learn quickly , will run when he has to like Taysom and probably throw fewer interceptions at critical moments then Winston . Just saying .
So niggas really finna act like Jameis ain win a heisman playing qb?😂😂hill a gimmicky player that shii work in college but he playing the top 1% athletes worldwide this common sense
If things don’t go well this season on qb side of ball in Nola and if they don’t get well on offense for Seattle, Saints should pick up Russ. I think Russ and Sean Payton could do damage
Honestly. I fear Winston with his laser eye surgery inevitably gonna be showing his interceptions were because he was playing practically blind.
I dont like gunslingers like brett farve they always let you down in the most tragic ways becuse when all eles fails...... hailmary
I don't know who should start for the Saints they just have two very good quarterbacks. You guys just go for it and and support each other.
Sick of the disingenuous “mystery” nonsense. 15 interceptions in a season would get any quarterback cut. 30?
Taysom hill will NEVER be the saints long term starting qb. Theyre stringing the poor guy along 🤣
Jameis is great at sucking his fingers but horrible at making correct decisions on and off the field ! It’s as if he can’t be coached or he is incapable of learning ?
As a Panthers fan Winston is their best bet at QB I like what taysom brings to the table but jameis is the fair better Quarterback and fits the system well bring tysom in for those options and wildcat plays and send him out wide like he has done when brees was there
Also Ian Book and Trevor Simian. One of these two will get released i imagine.
This video was like a love note and excuse log for Taysome...till the end.
I think you have to start with Winston and see what you have, potential to be very good.
Sean can steal games with his mind, Taysom is quite a story but JW can be awesome
Nice things
Who knows what Winston will look like without Dirk Koetter. Dude could be a stud
Why is this a video, there is no qb battle, the starter is Jameis
mmmmmm biscuits and crab legs
Pretty sure the long term answer is neither
I think I’d have to dig deeper into the Winston highlights before I’d say cerebrally he is closest to possibly the most cerebral player in history.
Winston makes bad decisions, pre snap he regularly reads the defense wrong, and post snap he just takes to long to make decisions.
That example you gave was great, but, we’ve never seen Winston be able to do that 65-70 times a game.
65-70 what? It isn’t even 65-70 offensive snaps in a football game what are you saying?
@@Taxthechurch it’s not? That’s funny, the Saints averaged 65.6 offensive snaps a game last year, and that was down from previous seasons.
The Saints averaged 33 pass attempts and 32.6 rush attempts per game last season.
The Chargers led the league last year with 70.4. offensive snaps per game.
So yeah, like I said, between 65-70.
@@averyperkins8842 maybe I just don’t/didn’t look at as Winston has to make those decisions as in passes only
@@Taxthechurch he’s got to make presnap decisions every play, in every concept, run and pass, he’s got to change blocking and protection depending on what the defense is showing him.
The reason the Saints offense has been the most consistently prolific offense in history is due to Brees presnap ability.
@@averyperkins8842 he has to be able to do those things to be a GOAT but not to be successful in the offense. IMO everyone can’t be Brees/Tom/Aaron
I am #TeamWinston. He needs a second chance and I think coach Payton can help him reach his true potential. Just needs someone to commit to him.
taysom
Finally some Saints content ❤️
Peep my Kamara video too!