Hi everyone. Error to note in the video - in Step 7, when rotating your True North angle make sure to relocate the center of rotation onto the Project Base Point, otherwise you may bring an innacuarcy to the setting out of the building relative to the coordinate system. Long video this time so timestamps are necessary - Skip around as you require. Introduction - 0:00 Step 1 - Create a Revit Project Model File - 1:43 Step 2 - Assign the Project Information - 4:01 Step 3 - Create Grids in the Revit Model - 7:03 Step 4 - Create Levels in the Revit Model - 11:49 Step 5 - Place the Project Base Point - 18:58 Step 6 - Create the standard Plan Views and Underlays - 24:11 Step 7 - Geolocate the Revit Model - 34:43 Step 8 - Set up the Revit Project Design Options - 43:19 Step 9 - Set up the Revit Project Phases - 45:56 Outro - 53:37 If you like this content please support 8020BIM by buying me a (much needed) coffee: www.buymeacoffee.com/8020BIM Niall
A big thanks to you. Your video is an extremely basic understanding. I am a beginning in revit so it is really useful to me. I am waiting for many videos from your channel. Thank you once again for this video
Thank you for making this video. It is, and will continue to be a great benefit to me learning Revit. I have been using Autocad for years and this is certainly different but will be amazing to know Revit. Thanks again. Take care.
21:45 did you just move project base point away from the invinsible Internal Origin? this would screw up all future import export and file coordination between different consultans. i would prefer to move those grids instead
Hi Nicky. I agree completely and would advise against that now as a standard. This was version 2018 when the ordnance information had fewer options to contend with and the internal origin did not have a visibility identifier, so external coordination tended to be via Auto Shared Coordinates as standard. Completely agree that the Base Point and Internal Origin should remain constant these days unless there is a specific project requirement that expresses a variance between the two. I have been hoping to do an updated video to cover this but haven't found the time yet. Thanks for the constructive feedback and hopefully it helps others who stumble across the video. Niall
QUESTION: SAY I HAVE FILE A AND FILE B, WHEN I LINK B TO A WHILE IN FILE A, VIEW RANGE CUT PLAN ON 4FT TALL WHY IT IS NOT ABLE TO CUT (REMOVE ROOF ON FILE B) WHICH IS ABOVE MY CUT PLAN. OR AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR THIS IS STILL THE PROBLEM WITH REVIT 2022 ?
Hi there....i produced a hip roof but when i go to the level 1... i can not see the full roof but a cut thru the roof showing the part of the floor plan below. How do I fully show the roof as a whole.
Hi Tiro, I do not have a designated tutorial on a full structural design but I certainly cover mainly structural workflows throughout my videos. I would recommend clicking through to y channel and looking at all previously uploaded videos - there is a significant amount of structural-centric content in there. Niall
would you say the grids are more for centerlines? I use them for outside core when doing a wood frame, this is what I dimension off of. I was thinking if I should use grids only for centerlines and ref planes for other, but haven't experimented with that too much I mostly use grids for major grid and sometimes other grid types for other items and then for smaller stuff i use reference planes
Hi Eastudio, Apologies only getting around to replying now. No, I would not consider designating grids for use as centerlines only. Grids really define the structural bays or element alignments within a design. The can be at column CL's as per my example, or could be along a Structural Core wall (which is rarely the centerline of that wall - for example in cavity wall construction the inner wall leaf tends to be structural and the outer aesthetic). The designation of what the Grids are to represent are defined by the project particulars. I have also previously used a primary and secondary grid system, and have also used Reference planes for minor elements such as panelisation fo cleanrooms, external cladding lines etc. Hope this provides some insights for your. Niall
You strongly advised not to work all disciplines in a single model. This is a advice that I have heard several times and it seems to me mandatory when working with different professions by discipline. But I don't understand why when the work will be done by a single designer. At the moment I am working on the interior design of an apartment, I am evaluating to continue to do the other disciplines on the same model. But I would really like to know your opinion, is it convenient in some situation to work on a single model? Or am I about to make a mistake that I will understand later. A thousand thanks!
i notice u dont have sample view set up. view such as section, enlarged floor plan... what is the best way transfer custom symbol to this template you made? where can I download this one you have? or just make my own from Revit template?
Hi, thanks for the tutorial but there's some confusion here. The unclip option for the project base point is no longer available for 2020.2 upwards. I have tried to do as you did but I'm not getting the same results. Moving the project base point does not relocate the project and after inputting 69125 as the elevation, I'm getting negative values on my elevations. Please help, thanks.
Hi there, Apologies I only saw your comment today. I hope you got what you needed resolved. Yes, as of 2020.2 the option to unclip the base point has been removed. I personally think that this is a step backwards from the Revit Coordination controls but it is what it is. I now, as a standard, recommend that users do not migrate the project base point but that the internal origin point and the project base point remain grouped together in a known, designated area on the site. The survey point may move freely in order to inform the ordnance information for the site in real work terms. Hope this gives insights on how this process has changed since the 2020.2 patch release. Niall
also noticed how confusing his explanation got almost half way.........very poorly explanation. i keep saying this....individuals create videos believing that what they are showing you is more clearly but in reality.......is not..............they are hundreds of videos like this.................useless...........
This was truly the best video I've watched in the beginner genre. If you know Autocad, it's essential to understand the differences especially as it relates to demolition. It makes everything clearer than learning how to use commands (and remember them) without a context that this video sets up for you.
Only thing I don't do is a full grid. I personally hate grids... cant tell you how many times I've worked off drawings where a grid line gets in the way of things like custom line-types used to indicate specific things. Can get difficult to differentiate what you are looking at especially if they have similar line weights. I usually only grid a starting corner that i then place my project origin to. In fact, most firms that I have worked with over the years do not use full grids (a couple when i first started back in 08 did bust most have moved away from it), at least where I am anyways
Can you show a video on how phasing is shown for Reflected Ceilings? I have done this task, but I am not able to show it with the hidden lines like the walls. I was told because it is not drawn like the walls. How do you rectify this so you can get a model pattern turn to a hidden lines rather than continual lines? Thanks
Hi Leslie, The method for producing Phasing drawings for reflected ceiling is the same, but it is true that he presentation of the ceiling can be tricky (particularly if you are demolishing only parts of the ceiling). In short, do the following. Manage Tab - Phases - Graphic Overrides. Under Projection/Surface, Open the Patterns window beside Demolished. You can apply a foreground and background colour to start. The difficulty is that, as you alluded to, you cannot change the presentation of the pattern linestyle to hidden lines. This is because the pattern is not individual lines/geometry but an array. You will need to create a Pattern that matches your ceiling grid intervals but has a a series of dashes instead of a continous line, and apply that pattern as the Foreground and Background pattern in the Demolished Phase Projection/Surface Pattern dialogue. In my opinion, the demolition does not need to present the grid as you would for the existing or proposed. I would recommend allotting an entirely different pattern for teh ceiling extents to be demolished and refer to that pattern as "Area of ceiling to be removed" or similar in your Demolition Legend on the sheet. Hope this gets you on your way towards a solution. Hop over to the discrod channel should you need anything else as you will likely get a response faster than over youtube comments like this. discord.gg/kuzDTVNznH Let me know how you progress. Niall
Many institutions recommend not moving the PBP since it creates a lot of confusion. Why would you want to offset it from the Internal Origin? Shouldn't you move the grids instead? What I understood they have now removed the option to unclip the PBP since Revit 2020. P.S. Your vids are great! :)
You are exactly right - this video was made in 2018 showing an older workflow (user survey showed majority of users still worked as a default of 2018 at the time of video release). Truthfully I have witnessed it done many ways by many companies, even ones at scales where you'd expect them to have a consistent approach I have found little consistency. As a premise, particularly in 2020 onwards you are right, I would try to adhere to the internal origin and project base point where possible. Where this falls apart can be when you have a both a site and national survey point which you want levels to have the capacity to report to, in which case the project base point and the survey point both have to migrate. Tricky business to try standardise working to ordnance information in Revit. Seems so variable on a per project basis. To reiterate though, I agree with your statement as a sensible approach from the first principles perspective. Glad you are enjoying the videos, hope you are getting some value from them. Niall
@@8020BIM Hi Niall, I saw the comment above and also your reply. I'm a bit confused so maybe you can answer my question. I can pin/unpin my PBP and also I can clip/unclip the Survey Point (Revit 2022). I'm confused because of the comment above that stated that they have removed the option to unclip the PBP. Can you be more specific? Also, is it a big problem to do it the way you did? Just saying since of the comment from M Hellstrom. So, keep the internal and the survey at 0.0.0 and move the PBP to whatever location you are relative to survey. Cheers!
I've got a project where structural engineer has asked for datum to be set from zero to real world datum. In this case a FFL of 24750 the only way I cab get my reference levels to report right is to set the base point to -24750. Am I missing something?
But sometimes it did nt seems like 25 degree..may be it's 25.45 and in term of degree minute and second then how we will manage this for setting true north
Awesome, thank you just learning Revit, iam just getting to step six at the moment so it helped clarify what i have learned so far in school. i amm now a fan.
Hi Tom. If there is any sort of regularisation of the shape, structure etc for the domestic unit I would still recommend a grid. If nothing else having the grid framework improves the ease of setting out on the ground for the groundworks contractor. If the unit is part of a development of similar repeating units I would also advise utilising grids. If the unit is more freeform, naturally shaped for whatever reason you may opt to not include grids. They are a principle which improves accuracy fundamentally so it is a judgment call when it comes to irregular one-off domestic use cases. I genuinely tend to include them by default (but might opt to turn the visibility of grids off for print purposes should it detract from other data that does not lean heavily on the setting out) Hope this gives you some insight. Let me know if you have any other questions in the meantime. Niall
Hi everyone.
Error to note in the video - in Step 7, when rotating your True North angle make sure to relocate the center of rotation onto the Project Base Point, otherwise you may bring an innacuarcy to the setting out of the building relative to the coordinate system.
Long video this time so timestamps are necessary - Skip around as you require.
Introduction - 0:00
Step 1 - Create a Revit Project Model File - 1:43
Step 2 - Assign the Project Information - 4:01
Step 3 - Create Grids in the Revit Model - 7:03
Step 4 - Create Levels in the Revit Model - 11:49
Step 5 - Place the Project Base Point - 18:58
Step 6 - Create the standard Plan Views and Underlays - 24:11
Step 7 - Geolocate the Revit Model - 34:43
Step 8 - Set up the Revit Project Design Options - 43:19
Step 9 - Set up the Revit Project Phases - 45:56
Outro - 53:37
If you like this content please support 8020BIM by buying me a (much needed) coffee:
www.buymeacoffee.com/8020BIM
Niall
Absolutely amazing! Thank you for doing this step by step. It is so helpful and clear!
A big thanks to you. Your video is an extremely basic understanding. I am a beginning in revit so it is really useful to me. I am waiting for many videos from your channel. Thank you once again for this video
This is a great summary to start Revit.
Thank you for making this video. It is, and will continue to be a great benefit to me learning Revit. I have been using Autocad for years and this is certainly different but will be amazing to know Revit. Thanks again. Take care.
new revit user here, this great, thanks!!!
thanks for the video
very few videos on youtube that shows how to use revit professionally
No problem at all. Glad you found it informative.
Niall
Excellent explanation as usual,love your videos plz sir make video on complete coordination video which mentioned at the end of the video
Thanks a lot! Very insightful and enriching!
You're most welcome Karen, glad you found the video in some way informative.
Niall
I moved the Project Base Point to the map coordinates but it was just the point that moved - the project stayed where it was.
You are good i enjoy your teaching
Excellent video! Thank you so much!
You are most welcome Yan. 👍
Thank you! great video
Very useful , thank you very much.
thank you
you are the best .. the best , thank you
No problem Amer - thanks for the positive feedback. Glad you are finding value in the videos :)
Niall
Thank you!
No problem Joe. Glad you found it useful.
Niall
Can u plz make a advance video on wall ,floor and roof layer.nd layers function nd priority..
And also how they join
Thanku v much nd take care
I will put it on the list. Thanks for the suggestion
@@8020BIM thanku sir...i m eagerly waiting for that
@@8020BIM u did not make ..
great tips! 😊
21:45 did you just move project base point away from the invinsible Internal Origin? this would screw up all future import export and file coordination between different consultans. i would prefer to move those grids instead
Hi Nicky.
I agree completely and would advise against that now as a standard. This was version 2018 when the ordnance information had fewer options to contend with and the internal origin did not have a visibility identifier, so external coordination tended to be via Auto Shared Coordinates as standard.
Completely agree that the Base Point and Internal Origin should remain constant these days unless there is a specific project requirement that expresses a variance between the two. I have been hoping to do an updated video to cover this but haven't found the time yet.
Thanks for the constructive feedback and hopefully it helps others who stumble across the video.
Niall
When i move project basepoint, the building & gridlines does not follow, can u suggest? I'm using revit 2022 ver
QUESTION:
SAY I HAVE FILE A AND FILE B, WHEN I LINK B TO A
WHILE IN FILE A, VIEW RANGE CUT PLAN ON 4FT TALL
WHY IT IS NOT ABLE TO CUT (REMOVE ROOF ON FILE B) WHICH IS ABOVE MY CUT PLAN.
OR AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR THIS IS STILL THE PROBLEM WITH REVIT 2022 ?
Hi there....i produced a hip roof but when i go to the level 1... i can not see the full roof but a cut thru the roof showing the part of the floor plan below. How do I fully show the roof as a whole.
Do you have tutorial on BIM for Structure?
Hi Tiro,
I do not have a designated tutorial on a full structural design but I certainly cover mainly structural workflows throughout my videos. I would recommend clicking through to y channel and looking at all previously uploaded videos - there is a significant amount of structural-centric content in there.
Niall
would you say the grids are more for centerlines? I use them for outside core when doing a wood frame, this is what I dimension off of. I was thinking if I should use grids only for centerlines and ref planes for other, but haven't experimented with that too much I mostly use grids for major grid and sometimes other grid types for other items and then for smaller stuff i use reference planes
Hi Eastudio,
Apologies only getting around to replying now. No, I would not consider designating grids for use as centerlines only. Grids really define the structural bays or element alignments within a design. The can be at column CL's as per my example, or could be along a Structural Core wall (which is rarely the centerline of that wall - for example in cavity wall construction the inner wall leaf tends to be structural and the outer aesthetic).
The designation of what the Grids are to represent are defined by the project particulars. I have also previously used a primary and secondary grid system, and have also used Reference planes for minor elements such as panelisation fo cleanrooms, external cladding lines etc.
Hope this provides some insights for your.
Niall
When rotating true north should I use the project node as center of rotation?
You strongly advised not to work all disciplines in a single model.
This is a advice that I have heard several times and it seems to me mandatory when working with different professions by discipline.
But I don't understand why when the work will be done by a single designer.
At the moment I am working on the interior design of an apartment, I am evaluating to continue to do the other disciplines on the same model.
But I would really like to know your opinion, is it convenient in some situation to work on a single model?
Or am I about to make a mistake that I will understand later. A thousand thanks!
i notice u dont have sample view set up. view such as section, enlarged floor plan... what is the best way transfer custom symbol to this template you made?
where can I download this one you have? or just make my own from Revit template?
Hi, thanks for the tutorial but there's some confusion here. The unclip option for the project base point is no longer available for 2020.2 upwards. I have tried to do as you did but I'm not getting the same results. Moving the project base point does not relocate the project and after inputting 69125 as the elevation, I'm getting negative values on my elevations. Please help, thanks.
Hi there,
Apologies I only saw your comment today. I hope you got what you needed resolved.
Yes, as of 2020.2 the option to unclip the base point has been removed. I personally think that this is a step backwards from the Revit Coordination controls but it is what it is.
I now, as a standard, recommend that users do not migrate the project base point but that the internal origin point and the project base point remain grouped together in a known, designated area on the site. The survey point may move freely in order to inform the ordnance information for the site in real work terms. Hope this gives insights on how this process has changed since the 2020.2 patch release.
Niall
Student version people thank you
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Ok
missing my ti line sir.
Author, are you Irish?
I am indeed. 😊
also noticed how confusing his explanation got almost half way.........very poorly explanation. i keep saying this....individuals create videos believing that what they are showing you is more clearly but in reality.......is not..............they are hundreds of videos like this.................useless...........
Feel welcome to make some yourself and improve on the quality in that instance Mauricio.
@@8020BIM if i do, i will talk less and get to the freaking point.
@@mauriciocornejo1442 look forward to them.
difficult to hear you clearly. maybe you need to raise your voice because you look down.
Bravo 👏 👏 so cool 😎😎 cool
This was truly the best video I've watched in the beginner genre. If you know Autocad, it's essential to understand the differences especially as it relates to demolition. It makes everything clearer than learning how to use commands (and remember them) without a context that this video sets up for you.
Always look forward to your videos they are so much more comprehensive than anything else out there. Keep up the good videos!
Thanks for the positive feedback - glad to hear you are finding what I am doing valuable. Will see you for the next one!
Niall
This is exactly the basic steps I'm looking for
You kind sir are GOLD , you are our ASMR for REVIT users. Thank you!!!!! I ran into you while trying to learn about Phasing in your Phasing video.
Not my intent but I hoped you enjoyed the ASMR regardless 😅
The coming up video of 03:34 is not depicted. Could you please provide me the relevant RUclips link?
Nice Tutorial, to the point!
Only thing I don't do is a full grid. I personally hate grids... cant tell you how many times I've worked off drawings where a grid line gets in the way of things like custom line-types used to indicate specific things. Can get difficult to differentiate what you are looking at especially if they have similar line weights.
I usually only grid a starting corner that i then place my project origin to. In fact, most firms that I have worked with over the years do not use full grids (a couple when i first started back in 08 did bust most have moved away from it), at least where I am anyways
Filters and view templates make multi-discpline models very practical and easier to manage. not too mention export to Navisworks.
Well explained videos, a pleasure to watch and very informative and helpful
Thank you George, really appreciate the feedback. Glad you found it informative.
Niall
Can you show a video on how phasing is shown for Reflected Ceilings? I have done this task, but I am not able to show it with the hidden lines like the walls. I was told because it is not drawn like the walls. How do you rectify this so you can get a model pattern turn to a hidden lines rather than continual lines? Thanks
Hi Leslie,
The method for producing Phasing drawings for reflected ceiling is the same, but it is true that he presentation of the ceiling can be tricky (particularly if you are demolishing only parts of the ceiling). In short, do the following.
Manage Tab - Phases - Graphic Overrides. Under Projection/Surface, Open the Patterns window beside Demolished. You can apply a foreground and background colour to start.
The difficulty is that, as you alluded to, you cannot change the presentation of the pattern linestyle to hidden lines. This is because the pattern is not individual lines/geometry but an array. You will need to create a Pattern that matches your ceiling grid intervals but has a a series of dashes instead of a continous line, and apply that pattern as the Foreground and Background pattern in the Demolished Phase Projection/Surface Pattern dialogue.
In my opinion, the demolition does not need to present the grid as you would for the existing or proposed. I would recommend allotting an entirely different pattern for teh ceiling extents to be demolished and refer to that pattern as "Area of ceiling to be removed" or similar in your Demolition Legend on the sheet.
Hope this gets you on your way towards a solution. Hop over to the discrod channel should you need anything else as you will likely get a response faster than over youtube comments like this. discord.gg/kuzDTVNznH
Let me know how you progress.
Niall
Many institutions recommend not moving the PBP since it creates a lot of confusion. Why would you want to offset it from the Internal Origin? Shouldn't you move the grids instead? What I understood they have now removed the option to unclip the PBP since Revit 2020. P.S. Your vids are great! :)
You are exactly right - this video was made in 2018 showing an older workflow (user survey showed majority of users still worked as a default of 2018 at the time of video release).
Truthfully I have witnessed it done many ways by many companies, even ones at scales where you'd expect them to have a consistent approach I have found little consistency. As a premise, particularly in 2020 onwards you are right, I would try to adhere to the internal origin and project base point where possible. Where this falls apart can be when you have a both a site and national survey point which you want levels to have the capacity to report to, in which case the project base point and the survey point both have to migrate.
Tricky business to try standardise working to ordnance information in Revit. Seems so variable on a per project basis. To reiterate though, I agree with your statement as a sensible approach from the first principles perspective.
Glad you are enjoying the videos, hope you are getting some value from them.
Niall
@@8020BIM Hi Niall,
I saw the comment above and also your reply. I'm a bit confused so maybe you can answer my question. I can pin/unpin my PBP and also I can clip/unclip the Survey Point (Revit 2022). I'm confused because of the comment above that stated that they have removed the option to unclip the PBP. Can you be more specific?
Also, is it a big problem to do it the way you did? Just saying since of the comment from M Hellstrom. So, keep the internal and the survey at 0.0.0 and move the PBP to whatever location you are relative to survey.
Cheers!
good video !! thank you!
2 years passed damn
Wonderful! Thanks sir
nice information sir...
thanks a lots
Thanks a lot!
Thank you👍
Amazing
Nice explanation to do things in a better way to avoid the confusion later, thanks I liked this tutorial. Looking forward to more revit videos.😄
Hi very nice
Thank you... really very useful
You're very welcome, glad you found it informative.
Thank you so much sir. Your video is an extremely basic understanding by the broadly discussion .
I've got a project where structural engineer has asked for datum to be set from zero to real world datum. In this case a FFL of 24750 the only way I cab get my reference levels to report right is to set the base point to -24750. Am I missing something?
Can u plz make a advance video on wall ,floor and roof layer.nd layers function nd priority..
And also how they join
Thanku v much nd take care
But sometimes it did nt seems like 25 degree..may be it's 25.45 and in term of degree minute and second then how we will manage this for setting true north
noticed how confusing he gets while trying to explain min 25:16.....
Thank you
You're most welcome.
Niall
Thankyou for this. Very Helpful.
Very good video!!! Thank you so much for this!
tNice tutorials video was dog sNice tutorialt
best deep explain video i have been seen ever , thank
Great tips thank you
Awesome, thank you just learning Revit, iam just getting to step six at the moment so it helped clarify what i have learned so far in school. i amm now a fan.
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Hi Niall. Would you use a grid on an average sized residential model, or is it just for large scale and commercial models?
Hi Tom.
If there is any sort of regularisation of the shape, structure etc for the domestic unit I would still recommend a grid. If nothing else having the grid framework improves the ease of setting out on the ground for the groundworks contractor. If the unit is part of a development of similar repeating units I would also advise utilising grids. If the unit is more freeform, naturally shaped for whatever reason you may opt to not include grids.
They are a principle which improves accuracy fundamentally so it is a judgment call when it comes to irregular one-off domestic use cases. I genuinely tend to include them by default (but might opt to turn the visibility of grids off for print purposes should it detract from other data that does not lean heavily on the setting out)
Hope this gives you some insight. Let me know if you have any other questions in the meantime.
Niall
@@8020BIM Ok, thanks for the explanation
Talks too much for a simple beginners 1 hour leason 😢