His review on the steering spring made me smile... how many ways could he say "it was awesome, as long as I removed it and threw it in the trash and put the blanking plate on". 😂
I would hopee they would work on their frame strength and customer service/ warranty process. I have broken 3 frames and the last time they just sent me a frame and said figure it out. I still have 3 years on their warranty.
I've heard good things about K.I.S but I can see why some people wouldn't want to have it. As it is removable in this bike I really don't mind having it pre-installed.
The cf8 has 160mm 150mm rear performance elite fox, 203mm front and back break rotors xm1700 dt swiss and weighs 31.50 pounds thats insane given its a 3600$ bike right now
@@danymops9240 you’re not wrong, although you seem to be referring to the 2023 Spectral. It has more travel front and rear then the new one but is lighter? Kinda unheard of nowadays.
@@michaelmicallef668 yes i was referring to that model i should have specified 2023 but yes i think its pretty awesome considering bikes with those specs and travel always weigh more than 32lbs normally
First of all, the new Spectral CF is unexpactedly heavy. The new CF 9 weights 666 grams (!!!!!) more, than the old CF8. No idea what caused that increase. Old had 160 / 150mm of travel, new 150/140 mm. Is it only me, or there´s anyone else thinking, that the old one was better?
K.I.S. do work, Canyon's new steering thing definitely helped me steer away from ever buying a Spectral. I guess this was one of the design goals with this brilliant system?
Adding 600g more weight to the frame makes no sense. Adding weight, complexity and price. The improvements in stearing would need to be huge in order to offset this. However, most of new innovations are not worth it in the start ( Electric gears, Hydraulic disc brakes on roadbikes, Carbon wheels, etc.) 5 years from now this might be game changer.
So in other world you gave us the most flip floppy answer ever. This didn’t tell us that much if you couldn’t spend enough time with it to figure the new system out. I appreciate your honesty hut how will you make a quality video to tell us about the bike if you couldn’t get to work it out and give us a better answer.
its just a spring that can be tightened or loosened easily and if it breaks the KIS is under lifetime warranty so they will send you a new one free if theres an issue
No, just…no. Centrifugal force keeps the front stable at speed, I think this is go8n* to be a Flex Stem innovation: steering damping or similar well be developed, but this is not it.
clearly over engineered in my opinion. it adds weight, and you can clearly ride without this. + personally I completely refuse to have any system messing up with my trajectory.
What do you think of the new Canyon Spectral? Is the K.I.S system over engineered? Let us know in the comments!
His review on the steering spring made me smile... how many ways could he say "it was awesome, as long as I removed it and threw it in the trash and put the blanking plate on". 😂
I just want this so I can hold the seat while walking my bike up a hill😂
Just like forks, next step for KIS will be compressed air cartridges, with stanchions, and tokens for progressive feel
😂😂
I would hopee they would work on their frame strength and customer service/ warranty process.
I have broken 3 frames and the last time they just sent me a frame and said figure it out. I still have 3 years on their warranty.
I've heard good things about K.I.S but I can see why some people wouldn't want to have it. As it is removable in this bike I really don't mind having it pre-installed.
The real question is, does the cable port allow water into the lower headset bearing when getting a wash?
Wow they are Killin the spectral 125 already? Most interesting aspect to me
I was always confused by the introduction of the 125. Felt like too many options given the existence of the Neuron.
Good Bike, but with way over 15kg in a 150mm- class, slightly to heavy for me.
You’re not wrong. My Hightower is high 13kg without pedals. Where does the added weight come from?
The cf8 has 160mm 150mm rear performance elite fox, 203mm front and back break rotors xm1700 dt swiss and weighs 31.50 pounds thats insane given its a 3600$ bike right now
@@danymops9240 you’re not wrong, although you seem to be referring to the 2023 Spectral. It has more travel front and rear then the new one but is lighter? Kinda unheard of nowadays.
@@michaelmicallef668 yes i was referring to that model i should have specified 2023 but yes i think its pretty awesome considering bikes with those specs and travel always weigh more than 32lbs normally
Which exact model is that ? Can’t find on online that has a Lyrik fork.
Cf9
It is the one with the Lyrik fork.
First of all, the new Spectral CF is unexpactedly heavy. The new CF 9 weights 666 grams (!!!!!) more, than the old CF8. No idea what caused that increase. Old had 160 / 150mm of travel, new 150/140 mm. Is it only me, or there´s anyone else thinking, that the old one was better?
K.I.S. do work, Canyon's new steering thing definitely helped me steer away from ever buying a Spectral. I guess this was one of the design goals with this brilliant system?
Think I'll wait for the new Aluminium version.
Should be around 18kg I figure.
The future, smart K.I.S. with a battery and a carbon top for 499.-
Adding 600g more weight to the frame makes no sense. Adding weight, complexity and price. The improvements in stearing would need to be huge in order to offset this.
However, most of new innovations are not worth it in the start ( Electric gears, Hydraulic disc brakes on roadbikes, Carbon wheels, etc.) 5 years from now this might be game changer.
So in other world you gave us the most flip floppy answer ever. This didn’t tell us that much if you couldn’t spend enough time with it to figure the new system out. I appreciate your honesty hut how will you make a quality video to tell us about the bike if you couldn’t get to work it out and give us a better answer.
thanks you saved me 9 minutes.
There is a fine line between innovation and being gimmicky
they should have offered models without KIS, like previous model - imo
You can remove it and they gave you the plate to cover the hole.
@@Flexo_lok, but then you have to pay for the KIS like it or not…
@@stuka78 Let's be honest the price would be the same or if you look last year model prices its even cheaper.
Ultra lightweight rain jacket on a mountain bike?
Why would we need another unnecessary part on the bike that needs maintenance 🙄.
So don't buy it.
its just a spring that can be tightened or loosened easily and if it breaks the KIS is under lifetime warranty so they will send you a new one free if theres an issue
No, just…no. Centrifugal force keeps the front stable at speed, I think this is go8n* to be a Flex Stem innovation: steering damping or similar well be developed, but this is not it.
clearly over engineered in my opinion. it adds weight, and you can clearly ride without this. + personally I completely refuse to have any system messing up with my trajectory.
There’s barely any weight added, you watch the part where you saw it right. There always people like you who complain with every new technology
You can remove it
@@frienduro24after you have paid for it
@@stuka78 true
@@stuka78 I'd be more concerned about all the trash they have to ship with the bike by law like reflectors, plastic pedals and the user manuals.