I've been extremely impressed with my GH6 so far, its improved upon everything from the GH5, and that was basically the perfect camera for my work, so GH6 has been perfection! And also, I've never had a bug or glitch on mine!
"Oppurtunity cost" only really applies if you are buying a new system. As a M43 shooter, changing to a Full Frame system is cost prohibitive, especially if you could really use more than 1 camera. Along with that, what FF options offer even DCI4k, let alone 5.7k in this price point? I'm fairly sure the GH6 will be my last M43 camera, but I am VERY happy with it as a stepping stone from my GH5.
Couldn't have said it better. It solves pretty much every issue I had with my GH5. I'm in love with it for my purposes. On bigger client jobs I work with a DoP with two C70s. On smaller solo projects, the GH6 punches way above its pricepoint. The pro features, high resolution, open gate and color really matter to me.
Yes and no...it only means that if you have better tool for a lower price, you might be tempted by other options. Panasonic have not listened, it has not delivered phase detection AF, which is in my opinion the most useful tool for me as a solo run and gun operator. And for many many others. So I'm switching. Yes it will be costly but Sony has massively improved over the years and Panasonic since 2017 and the launch of the gh5 (which I still use)....unfortunately not very much. The gh6 like the s1h will be more useful for short filmmakers with DCI4K, open gate and a ton of video assist and extended dynamic range and other features that I never use when in run and gun mode.
@@laurenthenry I guess? I shoot run and gun and I can't imagine trusting my Sony at all. I tried it for about a week then turned af off to never use again. Af from any company is completely unreliable for run and gun and should never be trusted. Fucking a7s3 ruined a job for me
I agree completely. I bought into M43 years ago and as such have a wide variety of lenses for it. Pana G7,GH4, GH5, BMPCC4k, and now GH6 and for me this camera was a no-brainer. I don't think sensor size is everything, or even NEARLY as important as many youtube/reviewers make it seem in the grand scheme of thing (No offense Caleb, plz don't hate me). M43 pansonic glass is generally significantly cheaper and lighter than fullframe as well. Canon R7 doesn't compare to GH6 if you're really taking advantage of the features the GH6 has over the GH5 or GH5ii. R7 is definitely favorable against those older/cheaper models, but not the GH6.
A few things. Hear me out: The SSD recording feature has been released with the latest update, so that is awesome. Love it...only limitation I find is frame rates when recording to ssd. Many features on your con list can be fixed with firmware updates...and the before mentioned one already has. The streaking issue I cannot seem to duplicate on my GH6 even with high contrast situations. I have tried to make it happen in the same ways that many have shown on RUclips...it just isn't there. Even had another video pro friend see if it was just me. Which makes me wonder if some units have the issue and some do not. That would be a quality control issue, but since we cannot seem to duplicate it, the con list got shorter for me. Of course that is just my one particular body, and it is good to mention it because I have seen it with many other units. On this one IDK, but quality control is important, and if you are working on client jobs that require perfection, check your unit and test it early on. For me, even on mission critical jobs, no issues here. On the glitching issue. I have also tried to see if my camera does even under heavy use...not a single glitch so far after 6 months of almost daily use. The battery door issue is also not a problem for me as I can use an external power bank, but not at the same time as an external ssd as there is only the one usb c port. However, with dummy batteries, I have seen two GH5 cameras bricked by using a cheap dummy battery from Amazon, where something around the voltage or something was not the same as the advertised spec of the product...or something. But nonetheless the money saved was not worth it. One colleague was inconvenienced , without a camera body for three weeks, and it cost him more money. I would always recommend spending a little extra there to get an official Panasonic dummy battery power supply. Just not willing to gamble with my camera body to save $80 or so... One thing I think you missed is the amazing audio options with the GH6, but that was your top 7. Your video would have been much longer if you included everything, and it was your top 7. Great review my friend. Keep them coming. I sub'd because I lovee the channel content!
I’ve used this camera a lot since pre production units even and I’ve honestly never had a single glitch. I’ve shot dozens of weddings, full day shoots, and all my youtube stuff, and I swear I haven’t had any glitches ever! It’s been super stable. I wonder if you have a dodgy unit?
After much oscillating between this and FX30, I have finally decided in favor of GH6 and got it yesterday. I'm blown away by IBIS and overall this seems to me a fantastic camera for filmmaking. The viewfinder and the LCD are incredible. Love exploring and learning it.
@@armandoalvarez5879 sold it soon thereafter and went fully into Sony (using FX30 and A7IV now). IBIS is not as good on FX30 as on Panasonic but AF is light years ahead. For video I don't think anything comes close to Sony. For photography, it can be argued that there are better options but for video the discussion does not even make sense. Even newer Lumix S5IIX still is not on par with Sony even though it's a very good camera.
Ive been using SONY A7IV, SIGMA fp, LUMIX S1 and GH5S and I can tell you something - For the codecs and cinematic options alone the GH6 trumps even some of the full frame options in many situations - the colour science is amazing and the Panasonic video quality is also amazing as usual - Ill be getting one soon! Also due to the lens options and all sorts of excellent stuff, Micro Four Thirds is here to stay!!!!
It doesn't hold a candle to any ff camera for stills, especially not in low light. It can't keep up with Sony/Canon for video autofocus either. It's good at some things but it's way overpriced and when Panasonic rolls out dpaf prices will fall to levels of 10-15 years old cameras.
@@fredriksvard2603 I agree, all of the GH cameras I have used are not good for stills photography (And I have used them since GH4) - However (maybe I should have made this more clear) I am referring to the video movie image quality and codecs and some of the cinematic options, which trump some of the full frame ones. And yes in low light I would use my full frame cameras more such as SIGMA fp or LUMIX S1 for video. For photographs and the best autofocus I would go to the A7IV and which also has some okay video quality but nowhere near the amount of video options the GH6 has - There is also much less shutter lag on the GH6 than on many full-frame sensor cameras i have used. It's an amazing movie camera in my opinion.
i agree with most of your opinions, but has some reservation on the battery door issue. The gh6 for most people is not designed to use with dummy batteries, but a normal battery AND a type-c cable for continuous recording. That way, you get the long lasting battery life + a redudent power supply so it's more nightmare-proof.
i just love the size and convenience of the M43 system. The image quality is absolutely fine for online stuff. But as a solo operator the lack of good autofocus is a deal breaker for me. My next camera will probably be a Sony A7IV with mostly APS-C lenses for convenience and a few full frame primes for low light and depth of field.
Methinks you might be underestimating the potential capabilities for the future record-to-SSD firmware. The GH6 has HDMI 2.1 ports which are currently not being used to their fullest with the current crop of external recorders from BlackMagic and Atomos, all of which are HDMI 2.0. By way of example, that the Atomos line currently states a max 1.768Gb/s target bitrate for ProRes, and that the GH6 currently records ProRes to a max 1.9Gb/s internally, it's clear that neither method is even close to touching the 14.4Gb/s and 10Gb/s bit rates of either HDMI 2.0 or USB-C 3.2 (let alone the 48Gig bandwidth for HDMI 2.1!). There's an opportunity here for Panasonic to redefine the MILC market for HDR/high-bit-depth video by unleashing the bandwidth of both their USB-C 3.2 and HDMI 2.1 ports, that those ports even exist on the GH6 should be telling us all what to expect from Panasonic. Well, IMHO. :)
As a Pany user of many years and multiple cameras, I’ve just assumed the freeze/delay issue re: menu nav and rec stop are just par for the course at this point. Seen it on GH5 the most, notably when switching from rec to playback mode. But most cameras have their quirks in any case…it’s amazing these ones work as well as they do at all, given their capabilities.
agree with what you said, funny you mention the glitches, personally I haven't had any issues with mine, its been my main camera for months now and nothing weird till this day, the streaking hasn't been an issue either, that's very specific to see, so no worries there either, overall, the GH6 is work horse and its oriented for a different market than other cameras, is far superior in terms of features than even most FF cameras that don't even have features like Shutter angle and called themselves "cinema cameras" *cough*, *cough*, *Sony*, *cough*, or even Full size HDMI inputs 😅*cough*, *Canon R5c*, *cough*, great video as always Caleb, cheers from Honduras buddy !
I wonder if you got a bad unit. I've been using my GH6 very heavily for 3 months straight without any menu freezes. The thing has been very solid under heavy workloads in extreme environmental conditions. For sure, lack of SSD recording sucks, but CFExpress has been solid and usable.
Yeah same I left an almost identical comment before I saw yours. I've been shooting in just about every mode and environment imaginable and haven't encountered any of the glitches. Caleb might have a bad unit?
@@OpticEngineering @Benjamin Renfro Funny thing is that the week after I posted this comment the camera locked up on me. I've since had multiple times when the camera froze up, including a couple times when I was in the middle of critical shots that were impossible to re-create. The camera reacts in a very unacceptable manner - it just freezes with zero indication of a problem. So I might be pushing buttons and expecting that things are happening, when the camera is actually just sitting there spinning and not recording anything. Turning the camera off does nothing. I had to physically remove the battery and re-insert it to get the camera back to normal. I now understand why wedding shooters say they won't trust this camera. Fortunately this doesn't happen often, but it does happen too often. All of this experience was with V1.2. I highly suspect these issues are related to the SD Card. On a few occasions, I could see that the SD Card was taking very long to finish writing - after I pulled out the SD Card, I didn't have any more issues. I use Lexar 1667X 128GB SD cards which should have no issues recording at MOV data rates, but I started using only the CF Express cards after this kept occurring. The risk with only using CF Express cards is that they are susceptible to corruption in high EMI environments. I've had the CF Express card footage corrupted on multiple occasions and the saving grace was having the backup recording on the SD Card. The camera also has issues with video recordings of ~1-3 seconds - this often results in unreadable video files. I updated to v2.2 today, so we'll see how the new firmware behaves. Regarding artifacts - I would regularly get lines and blue shades in video, but this was only when shooting in a high EMI environment (very close to weather radar, etc), so I am giving the camera a pass on those issues. I don't believe I've seen artifacts in a more normal environment. The positive thing about the camera is that the artifacts would also show up in the viewfinder, so I could see them happening (if I was paying attention). Stop/Start recording would not remove the artifacts. I always had to turn the camera off and back on to clear artifacts.
Just to add my anecdote. I have 2 GH6s I've been using since release and haven't had menu glitches with them. This is typically vlogging and includes stopping/starting at times.
proud owner of a gh5 for years now. couldn't have waited more for the gh6 to drop for the simple reason that EVERYONE knew Panasonic would've fix it's autofocus... welp. unfortunately I will not buy a gh6 and I'm looking for options in others brands even if that implies that I will have to change lenses and blablabla... my heart was broken 😢😭 almost reached perfection... I have a rs2 pro combo that I almost never use because of the hassle of rigging and de-rigging my gh5 for an uncapable autofocus cam on a gimbal...
Surprised that auto-focus is not mentioned, it is easily the top glaring issue for anyone considering Lumix. They absolutely need to fix the video autofocus and get rid of the outdated contrast based focus sytem. I love everything about this camera and have been Lumix shooter for years, but sadly on my latest upgrade had to go with other brands because video autofocus is simply unreliable.
The AF problem is so long that it became a public secret or meme situation I mean yeah. If they just switched to PDAF in the next full-frame lineup's it will be "the perfect camera"
Have you personally used GH6 autofocus? I actually find it to be quite good. Never used AF on any other Lumix's because of the issues, but GH6 I think is quite reliable and is just a talking point for people who haven't used it to dunk on it. If you have in-fact used it I am curious what issues you have with it and what setting you are using to get the sub-par results?
I’ve been a LUMIX user for many years. Invested heavily in the MFT system. Cameras included the G85, GX8, GX85, GH5, GH5s….And I sold everything, including lenses, for the S5. I do still own a GH5s, but with multiple S5s, I’m set. I’m extremely grateful for my introduction into the LUMIX family through the MFT system. But when it comes right down to it, the full frame camera is simply better. Yes yes, the GH6 has more bells and whistles than the S5. But the image difference, especially in low light settings, is considerably better on the full frame LUMIX camera. Another deciding factor for me was the fact that I had EF mount lenses. Even though I had many of the Pro level MFT lenses (Olympus 7-14mm f/2.8, Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8, Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8, Panasonic 35-100mm f/2.8, Panasonic Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4…And a host of other zooms and pro primes….) I would typically shoot on EF mount SIGMA Art or Canon L Series lenses. For me it just made sense to upgrade to full frame. I’d been a MFT user for 6 years. I bought an S5 and haven’t looked back. I had the choice to purchase either another S5 or a GH6 and when with the S5. And the small price difference didn’t even come into play in the decision. The G series Panasonic cameras are fantastic. But having gone full frame, I won’t be going back. Great video as always! Love your channel and have for many years!
Your last point of opportunity cost is what's stopping me from fully committing to the gh6. I am a gh5 owner and I've been really impressed with the GH6 and what it offers, but Fujifilm released the X-2HS the specs and it's larger sensor, better dynamic range is really tempting. I just don't know if I want to completely change systems, but also this could very well be the last M43 camera worth getting, so maybe it's better to make the switch now.
I don't understand your S5 comment. The S5 has more dynamic range than the GH6 - even when using the 'Dynamic Boost' function. Check out the GH6 review from Gerald Undone. The GH6 is an amazing M43 camera, but as Gerald says 'you can't cheat physics'.
Haven't had any glitches over the past few months with my unit! The first firmware version had one moment where the screen would have a pink cast on the image after changing certain settings, but that would be fixed with a power cycle, and went away with the following firmware update.
I've been daydreaming of the GH6 for a long time now! We can probably get what we need from the GH5 though... maybe 2024 will be our year to upgrade our video setup =) thanks for the detailed info on the GH6!
Most RUclipsrs are huge on the A7SIII, but I still think the GH6 is the better cinema camera feature-wise. Even small things like Shutter angle are missing on all other Canon and Sony Bodies under $5K.
I had the "sticky recording" issue a few times on the GH5 and always assumed it was the SD card at fault more than anything, but the issue on the 6 sounds a little more pronounced!!!
I love the GH series but when they decided to stay with the m43 Mount I decided to move on. I still love panasonic though and I think back on my Gh5 fondly
Thanks so much for this review. I have the GH4 and the GH5 and was thinking about the GH6, but your 7 don't likes is right in line with my issues to avoid NICE uh ?
Very nice video Caleb! I'm surprised that the menu is slow/glitchy, as reliability has been one of the main reasons I've stayed a Panasonic shooter for so long and I've never had an issue like that. It's so crazy how much progress the other camera companies are making these days too! Panasonic has to step up again with their FF lineup or a lot of people including myself will probably end up switching systems.
The DR boost function comes with its own issues, it makes the shadows that much noisier, you'll need strong NDs to shoot in daylight, and the dynamic range of the camera without that function turned on is even worse than GH5 which is unacceptable in my opinion.
Agreed, I picked up an X100V as my first fujifilm camera and I love it. Been getting more into photography overall which has me second guessing my savings for a GH6
The glitchiness I have found depends on what memory card you are using some are fine others are like it is still writing to the card closing the file and can't do anything.
@@OffTheHookGirls it allows you to mark a cropped frame so you can compose your shot properly if you want to crop in post. One reason I'd like it is so I can shoot at 6.2K Open Gate (which is 3:2) and crop to UHD 4K (16:9) in post; that would let me stabilize in post with the extra pixels and then crop.
It's now 2023 and I'm seeing this now available (@ KEH) for about 1200. Does this change the equation much ? And have firmware updates helped any of these issues?
For those still about complaining about auto focus, take a look at YCimaging channel here on RUclips this week. He is reviewing his C70 canon cinema cam. And he’s complaining about the auto focus! You can find Sony shooters saying the same as well. There is no perfect AF. The af on the gh6 is pretty good.
what would this be for Sport shooting ? and is the AF focus good like is in Gx8 m43 or is the gx8 one better? and gh6 what is buffer rate and what is low light iso like
(7:25) This is an interesting dichotomy that seems to come up particularly when it comes to cameras. One could buy an iPhone / iPad / MacBook / iMac / Mac Mini all for a similar price. Or a Tesla Semi / Model X / Model S / Porsche 911 / Mercedes AMG EQS / Ducati Superleggera V4 for roughly the same… …
Strange…using the GH6 since embargo and never had any glitchy issues…and I understand the full frame options nowadays however I don’t see the need for full frame while lacking more valuable features. I still prefer shooting MFT over my full frame Lumix cameras.
Insane deal on Adorama. I just picked one up with the Panasonic 9mm 1.7 and all kinds of accessories for 1,872.05 after tax. I had to get this camera. Coming from a G9 and I still think that camera is great.
The DP Journey on firmware 2.2, (posted on his channel, with pic): "GH6 Streaking update with Firmware 2.2: The GOOD NEWS is that it's very much improved! The BAD NEWS is that it's still visible, more subtle, but you can see it"
I am curious about the glitches you mention. I have been shooting non-stop on my gh6 for months and haven't encountered any of the ones you mentions or anything even like them.
You omitted one piece of information though - are you going to keep using the camera? Also, would be great if you could do an X-H2S comparison because that's its only real competition I'd say. Well that and the S5.
It's tough and also hard to understand pricing. Yes there are better options when you start to price match. But do the other options offer the amount of video focus features that the GH6 have? At the same time, I personally think that this camera should've been something Panasonic could've added to their full frame lineup. I'm not sure where they really stand on the MFT lineup these days. It was an odd release.
I really like the GH6, but compared to the GH5 and 5s I'm having trouble with manual focus lenses, as the punch in function is too soft as DPRewiew has also pointed out. I need to focus more apparently...
What has you regretting your purchase? I own a ton of M 4/3 glass as I’ve had Panasonic bodies for years, but I’ve been really impressed with my Fujifilm x100v that I’ve been looking at the X-H2S instead of the GH6
I think it’s all personal preference…I have both canon (my first brand) and Fuijifilm but do prefer Lumix. All good camera but being just a tool it all depends on the user’s needs.
#6. I can't believe Panasonic has not fixed this HDMI issue. I am on GH5 and it has made me want to move on from Panasonic. Any idea when a firmware update is coming?
Very nice review on the pro's AND con's. I'll stick to my second hand G9 with the 12-60 F2.8-4 for video as the GH6 is simply out of my budget (still use the Sony A7iii for pictures). Have to say that Panasonic is still miles ahead in touch capabilities compared to Sony and the image stabilization - which was the main reason I sold my a6400 - is so good that I''m getting rid of my stabilizer. The Weebill lab was still better when walking but now I just grab the camera and I''m good to go no need to set it up and less weight in my backpack. Do you know if there is any production issues on the new PanaLeica 9mm F1,7 lens? Seems a lot of stores don't have it in stock. The 12mm of the zoom isn't wide enough when filming in tight spaces (tank turrets :-)).
I used 4tb angelbird cf express 5.7 k pro res till card full continuously .until 2.0 firmware update . After the update i get promt on screen cf express exceedes 2 tb. I did a short for both. Panisonic says in 2.0 did not address capacity.the answer
Soon to get phase detect, I wish the could add an adapter for the phase detect feature in Panasonic top cameras It would sell like hotcakes at 3-5 hundred dollars.
Comes to HDMI output isseue - same story was with GH5. If you attach camera to gimbal and monitor, then internal monitor was black :( Limitation to 2 HDMI output signals, it was introduced in some version of the camera firmware for GH5. However, I hope now we can ommit that by connecting camera to gimbal via bluetooth and then use 2 otputs: 1 for external monitor, 2 for internal monitor. But, yeah it is very irritating limitation and what is the reason for it?!
For me the biggest downside is I can’t change the audio gain when I rec… Or I don’t know how to do it maybe. I know that on my R5 and R6 I can do it while I rec… For exemple I shoot basketball locker room, so some people talk very low then everybody start clapping and screaming so it’s difficult to manage…
Yeah it was either, do I get the camera I really want that checks all the boxes or do I get one that’s a similar type camera with powerful features but a much smaller sensor and I opted for the one that checked all my boxes. I highly doubt I would’ve regretted buying a GH6, they’re extremely capable.
FF is the way to go. And reliable autofocus, and the amazing Canon color science straight out of camera. Too bad for IBIS and the battery life. I'm going the Sony route with the a7s3 instead 👍
@@laurenthenry the lack of ibis doesn’t bother me anywhere near as much as I thought it would after using an r6 for the last year. The electronic stabilization is very surprisingly good. I shot some 3-gun type stuff Sunday (like the John Wick training videos), running full speed behind people completely handheld with the RF 24-105 f4L lens and the footage is completely useable. Blew my mind honestly.
Thank you. This was great. I've been studying with you for a long time and just got the GH6 a few months ago and also have GH5. I want to take your GH6 course. Is there a return policy? I doubt very much I would be returning anything but I just want to know incase it's not for me. I tried using the contact link to contact you but it defaults to nothing. Thank you.
i can deal with all the 7 bad things but one thing I can't deal with is it's boot up time and the delay between hitting the rec button and actually recording. ):
U didn't mention one fatal flaw in GH6. AF performance. R7 is superior with image quality and heat problem R3 experiences, but it lack ALL-I frame videos. I'm surprised by GH6's glitches. I'm actually waiting a7000 with 10 bit video and RAW video.😁
@DSLR Video Shooter Nice video! But i want to ask you because I also have gh6 and I notice one more glitch with recording. Sometimes when I press record on the gh6. I must wait like 1 or 2 seconds before it starts recording do you also have the same issue?
For me it highly depends on what I am shooting in. 1080p and 4k mov content isn't really an issue, but I have noticed that on anything over 4k and just about any resolution in PRORES.
@@bennierenfro For me the resolution is not the case because i have this in 1080 in 300 fps also 4k 50 mp4 and other formats C4K, 5.8k, PRORES! But sometimes in mp4 4k 50 recording starts immediately but i don't now why!
I've been extremely impressed with my GH6 so far, its improved upon everything from the GH5, and that was basically the perfect camera for my work, so GH6 has been perfection!
And also, I've never had a bug or glitch on mine!
I agree totaly! I am very happy with the gh6!
"Oppurtunity cost" only really applies if you are buying a new system. As a M43 shooter, changing to a Full Frame system is cost prohibitive, especially if you could really use more than 1 camera. Along with that, what FF options offer even DCI4k, let alone 5.7k in this price point?
I'm fairly sure the GH6 will be my last M43 camera, but I am VERY happy with it as a stepping stone from my GH5.
Couldn't have said it better. It solves pretty much every issue I had with my GH5. I'm in love with it for my purposes. On bigger client jobs I work with a DoP with two C70s. On smaller solo projects, the GH6 punches way above its pricepoint. The pro features, high resolution, open gate and color really matter to me.
Yes and no...it only means that if you have better tool for a lower price, you might be tempted by other options.
Panasonic have not listened, it has not delivered phase detection AF, which is in my opinion the most useful tool for me as a solo run and gun operator. And for many many others. So I'm switching. Yes it will be costly but Sony has massively improved over the years and Panasonic since 2017 and the launch of the gh5 (which I still use)....unfortunately not very much.
The gh6 like the s1h will be more useful for short filmmakers with DCI4K, open gate and a ton of video assist and extended dynamic range and other features that I never use when in run and gun mode.
@@laurenthenry I guess? I shoot run and gun and I can't imagine trusting my Sony at all. I tried it for about a week then turned af off to never use again. Af from any company is completely unreliable for run and gun and should never be trusted. Fucking a7s3 ruined a job for me
I agree completely. I bought into M43 years ago and as such have a wide variety of lenses for it. Pana G7,GH4, GH5, BMPCC4k, and now GH6 and for me this camera was a no-brainer. I don't think sensor size is everything, or even NEARLY as important as many youtube/reviewers make it seem in the grand scheme of thing (No offense Caleb, plz don't hate me). M43 pansonic glass is generally significantly cheaper and lighter than fullframe as well. Canon R7 doesn't compare to GH6 if you're really taking advantage of the features the GH6 has over the GH5 or GH5ii. R7 is definitely favorable against those older/cheaper models, but not the GH6.
Great points!
A few things. Hear me out: The SSD recording feature has been released with the latest update, so that is awesome. Love it...only limitation I find is frame rates when recording to ssd. Many features on your con list can be fixed with firmware updates...and the before mentioned one already has. The streaking issue I cannot seem to duplicate on my GH6 even with high contrast situations. I have tried to make it happen in the same ways that many have shown on RUclips...it just isn't there. Even had another video pro friend see if it was just me. Which makes me wonder if some units have the issue and some do not. That would be a quality control issue, but since we cannot seem to duplicate it, the con list got shorter for me. Of course that is just my one particular body, and it is good to mention it because I have seen it with many other units. On this one IDK, but quality control is important, and if you are working on client jobs that require perfection, check your unit and test it early on. For me, even on mission critical jobs, no issues here.
On the glitching issue. I have also tried to see if my camera does even under heavy use...not a single glitch so far after 6 months of almost daily use. The battery door issue is also not a problem for me as I can use an external power bank, but not at the same time as an external ssd as there is only the one usb c port. However, with dummy batteries, I have seen two GH5 cameras bricked by using a cheap dummy battery from Amazon, where something around the voltage or something was not the same as the advertised spec of the product...or something. But nonetheless the money saved was not worth it. One colleague was inconvenienced , without a camera body for three weeks, and it cost him more money. I would always recommend spending a little extra there to get an official Panasonic dummy battery power supply. Just not willing to gamble with my camera body to save $80 or so...
One thing I think you missed is the amazing audio options with the GH6, but that was your top 7. Your video would have been much longer if you included everything, and it was your top 7. Great review my friend. Keep them coming. I sub'd because I lovee the channel content!
I’ve used this camera a lot since pre production units even and I’ve honestly never had a single glitch. I’ve shot dozens of weddings, full day shoots, and all my youtube stuff, and I swear I haven’t had any glitches ever! It’s been super stable.
I wonder if you have a dodgy unit?
After much oscillating between this and FX30, I have finally decided in favor of GH6 and got it yesterday. I'm blown away by IBIS and overall this seems to me a fantastic camera for filmmaking. The viewfinder and the LCD are incredible. Love exploring and learning it.
I’m in the same pit…
Only issue is autofocus.
Can’t do all by myself and also manually focus as well.
Gimbal…
Light…
How’s your experience after a year ? I’m considering getting this
@@armandoalvarez5879 sold it soon thereafter and went fully into Sony (using FX30 and A7IV now). IBIS is not as good on FX30 as on Panasonic but AF is light years ahead. For video I don't think anything comes close to Sony. For photography, it can be argued that there are better options but for video the discussion does not even make sense. Even newer Lumix S5IIX still is not on par with Sony even though it's a very good camera.
Ive been using SONY A7IV, SIGMA fp, LUMIX S1 and GH5S and I can tell you something - For the codecs and cinematic options alone the GH6 trumps even some of the full frame options in many situations - the colour science is amazing and the Panasonic video quality is also amazing as usual - Ill be getting one soon! Also due to the lens options and all sorts of excellent stuff, Micro Four Thirds is here to stay!!!!
It doesn't hold a candle to any ff camera for stills, especially not in low light. It can't keep up with Sony/Canon for video autofocus either. It's good at some things but it's way overpriced and when Panasonic rolls out dpaf prices will fall to levels of 10-15 years old cameras.
@@fredriksvard2603 I agree, all of the GH cameras I have used are not good for stills photography (And I have used them since GH4) - However (maybe I should have made this more clear) I am referring to the video movie image quality and codecs and some of the cinematic options, which trump some of the full frame ones. And yes in low light I would use my full frame cameras more such as SIGMA fp or LUMIX S1 for video. For photographs and the best autofocus I would go to the A7IV and which also has some okay video quality but nowhere near the amount of video options the GH6 has - There is also much less shutter lag on the GH6 than on many full-frame sensor cameras i have used. It's an amazing movie camera in my opinion.
i agree with most of your opinions, but has some reservation on the battery door issue. The gh6 for most people is not designed to use with dummy batteries, but a normal battery AND a type-c cable for continuous recording. That way, you get the long lasting battery life + a redudent power supply so it's more nightmare-proof.
Bought GH6 on release and haven’t encountered any of the glitches you speak of. It’s a fantastic camera for my use
I have a GH6 ..... and it works great .... did not have to buy new lenses ....
i just love the size and convenience of the M43 system. The image quality is absolutely fine for online stuff. But as a solo operator the lack of good autofocus is a deal breaker for me. My next camera will probably be a Sony A7IV with mostly APS-C lenses for convenience and a few full frame primes for low light and depth of field.
so true
Same here.
For me, who had to take care of many things by myself, also manually focusing… no thanks.
Did that a lot back in the days, Canon 600d.
Methinks you might be underestimating the potential capabilities for the future record-to-SSD firmware. The GH6 has HDMI 2.1 ports which are currently not being used to their fullest with the current crop of external recorders from BlackMagic and Atomos, all of which are HDMI 2.0. By way of example, that the Atomos line currently states a max 1.768Gb/s target bitrate for ProRes, and that the GH6 currently records ProRes to a max 1.9Gb/s internally, it's clear that neither method is even close to touching the 14.4Gb/s and 10Gb/s bit rates of either HDMI 2.0 or USB-C 3.2 (let alone the 48Gig bandwidth for HDMI 2.1!). There's an opportunity here for Panasonic to redefine the MILC market for HDR/high-bit-depth video by unleashing the bandwidth of both their USB-C 3.2 and HDMI 2.1 ports, that those ports even exist on the GH6 should be telling us all what to expect from Panasonic. Well, IMHO. :)
As a Pany user of many years and multiple cameras, I’ve just assumed the freeze/delay issue re: menu nav and rec stop are just par for the course at this point. Seen it on GH5 the most, notably when switching from rec to playback mode. But most cameras have their quirks in any case…it’s amazing these ones work as well as they do at all, given their capabilities.
agree with what you said, funny you mention the glitches, personally I haven't had any issues with mine, its been my main camera for months now and nothing weird till this day, the streaking hasn't been an issue either, that's very specific to see, so no worries there either, overall, the GH6 is work horse and its oriented for a different market than other cameras, is far superior in terms of features than even most FF cameras that don't even have features like Shutter angle and called themselves "cinema cameras" *cough*, *cough*, *Sony*, *cough*, or even Full size HDMI inputs 😅*cough*, *Canon R5c*, *cough*, great video as always Caleb, cheers from Honduras buddy !
Glad to meet you, Caleb.
I wonder if you got a bad unit. I've been using my GH6 very heavily for 3 months straight without any menu freezes. The thing has been very solid under heavy workloads in extreme environmental conditions.
For sure, lack of SSD recording sucks, but CFExpress has been solid and usable.
Yeah same I left an almost identical comment before I saw yours. I've been shooting in just about every mode and environment imaginable and haven't encountered any of the glitches. Caleb might have a bad unit?
Glad you havent had glitches. Have you experienced any artifacts like he mentioned?
@@OpticEngineering @Benjamin Renfro Funny thing is that the week after I posted this comment the camera locked up on me. I've since had multiple times when the camera froze up, including a couple times when I was in the middle of critical shots that were impossible to re-create. The camera reacts in a very unacceptable manner - it just freezes with zero indication of a problem. So I might be pushing buttons and expecting that things are happening, when the camera is actually just sitting there spinning and not recording anything. Turning the camera off does nothing. I had to physically remove the battery and re-insert it to get the camera back to normal. I now understand why wedding shooters say they won't trust this camera. Fortunately this doesn't happen often, but it does happen too often. All of this experience was with V1.2. I highly suspect these issues are related to the SD Card. On a few occasions, I could see that the SD Card was taking very long to finish writing - after I pulled out the SD Card, I didn't have any more issues. I use Lexar 1667X 128GB SD cards which should have no issues recording at MOV data rates, but I started using only the CF Express cards after this kept occurring. The risk with only using CF Express cards is that they are susceptible to corruption in high EMI environments. I've had the CF Express card footage corrupted on multiple occasions and the saving grace was having the backup recording on the SD Card. The camera also has issues with video recordings of ~1-3 seconds - this often results in unreadable video files.
I updated to v2.2 today, so we'll see how the new firmware behaves.
Regarding artifacts - I would regularly get lines and blue shades in video, but this was only when shooting in a high EMI environment (very close to weather radar, etc), so I am giving the camera a pass on those issues. I don't believe I've seen artifacts in a more normal environment. The positive thing about the camera is that the artifacts would also show up in the viewfinder, so I could see them happening (if I was paying attention). Stop/Start recording would not remove the artifacts. I always had to turn the camera off and back on to clear artifacts.
@@bennierenfro see my reply here.
@@kallygehly9948 Wild. Thank you so much for the information!
Just to add my anecdote. I have 2 GH6s I've been using since release and haven't had menu glitches with them. This is typically vlogging and includes stopping/starting at times.
proud owner of a gh5 for years now. couldn't have waited more for the gh6 to drop for the simple reason that EVERYONE knew Panasonic would've fix it's autofocus... welp.
unfortunately I will not buy a gh6 and I'm looking for options in others brands even if that implies that I will have to change lenses and blablabla... my heart was broken 😢😭 almost reached perfection... I have a rs2 pro combo that I almost never use because of the hassle of rigging and de-rigging my gh5 for an uncapable autofocus cam on a gimbal...
Surprised that auto-focus is not mentioned, it is easily the top glaring issue for anyone considering Lumix. They absolutely need to fix the video autofocus and get rid of the outdated contrast based focus sytem. I love everything about this camera and have been Lumix shooter for years, but sadly on my latest upgrade had to go with other brands because video autofocus is simply unreliable.
A lot of people using the GH-line don't use Autofocus, but for sure if you rely on AF for video stay far away from Lumix. (even full frame)
The AF problem is so long that it became a public secret or meme situation
I mean yeah. If they just switched to PDAF in the next full-frame lineup's it will be "the perfect camera"
I guess? I ownsony, Canon, and panasonic and I never use AF on any of them. Not for vlogging, not for my personal shooting, nada.
on a gimbal it's pretty mandatory...
Have you personally used GH6 autofocus? I actually find it to be quite good. Never used AF on any other Lumix's because of the issues, but GH6 I think is quite reliable and is just a talking point for people who haven't used it to dunk on it. If you have in-fact used it I am curious what issues you have with it and what setting you are using to get the sub-par results?
I’ve been a LUMIX user for many years. Invested heavily in the MFT system. Cameras included the G85, GX8, GX85, GH5, GH5s….And I sold everything, including lenses, for the S5. I do still own a GH5s, but with multiple S5s, I’m set. I’m extremely grateful for my introduction into the LUMIX family through the MFT system. But when it comes right down to it, the full frame camera is simply better. Yes yes, the GH6 has more bells and whistles than the S5. But the image difference, especially in low light settings, is considerably better on the full frame LUMIX camera. Another deciding factor for me was the fact that I had EF mount lenses. Even though I had many of the Pro level MFT lenses (Olympus 7-14mm f/2.8, Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8, Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8, Panasonic 35-100mm f/2.8, Panasonic Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4…And a host of other zooms and pro primes….) I would typically shoot on EF mount SIGMA Art or Canon L Series lenses. For me it just made sense to upgrade to full frame. I’d been a MFT user for 6 years. I bought an S5 and haven’t looked back. I had the choice to purchase either another S5 or a GH6 and when with the S5. And the small price difference didn’t even come into play in the decision. The G series Panasonic cameras are fantastic. But having gone full frame, I won’t be going back. Great video as always! Love your channel and have for many years!
Your last point of opportunity cost is what's stopping me from fully committing to the gh6. I am a gh5 owner and I've been really impressed with the GH6 and what it offers, but Fujifilm released the X-2HS the specs and it's larger sensor, better dynamic range is really tempting. I just don't know if I want to completely change systems, but also this could very well be the last M43 camera worth getting, so maybe it's better to make the switch now.
if you are using EF glass it will be a smooth transition for the most part. Not so much if you are using M43 glass
Well price of the gh6 also went down and it probably go down with the time, it's just about to wait and pick it up on the right moment
I don't understand your S5 comment. The S5 has more dynamic range than the GH6 - even when using the 'Dynamic Boost' function. Check out the GH6 review from Gerald Undone. The GH6 is an amazing M43 camera, but as Gerald says 'you can't cheat physics'.
Haven't had any glitches over the past few months with my unit!
The first firmware version had one moment where the screen would have a pink cast on the image after changing certain settings, but that would be fixed with a power cycle, and went away with the following firmware update.
I've been daydreaming of the GH6 for a long time now! We can probably get what we need from the GH5 though... maybe 2024 will be our year to upgrade our video setup =) thanks for the detailed info on the GH6!
Would love a review on the Canon R7!
DR on S5 is better than GH6 so even with Dynamic range boost surely doesn’t out perform it? Did you do any tests on this?
I'm surprised they haven't fixed that magenta banding, yet. Can it be fixed with a firmware update? Or are users stuck with it? Great review.
thank you for the second review i was waiting for this.
Most RUclipsrs are huge on the A7SIII, but I still think the GH6 is the better cinema camera feature-wise. Even small things like Shutter angle are missing on all other Canon and Sony Bodies under $5K.
The glitches alone make it a no go. Still rockin the gh5. Hopefully Panasonic will get some firmware updates to fix the glitch.
Did they fixed these issues by now?
Any firmware on those?
I had the "sticky recording" issue a few times on the GH5 and always assumed it was the SD card at fault more than anything, but the issue on the 6 sounds a little more pronounced!!!
I love the GH series but when they decided to stay with the m43 Mount I decided to move on. I still love panasonic though and I think back on my Gh5 fondly
Thanks so much for this review. I have the GH4 and the GH5 and was thinking about the GH6, but your 7 don't likes is right in line with my issues to avoid NICE uh ?
Very nice video Caleb! I'm surprised that the menu is slow/glitchy, as reliability has been one of the main reasons I've stayed a Panasonic shooter for so long and I've never had an issue like that. It's so crazy how much progress the other camera companies are making these days too! Panasonic has to step up again with their FF lineup or a lot of people including myself will probably end up switching systems.
Just bought the lut pack for my S5. I have started to use Vlog in all my shooting so looking forward to start using it
The DR boost function comes with its own issues, it makes the shadows that much noisier, you'll need strong NDs to shoot in daylight, and the dynamic range of the camera without that function turned on is even worse than GH5 which is unacceptable in my opinion.
I'll pick Panasonic over cannon any day ....bet no cap periodt
Are you going to do a review on the Fujifilm XH2s? That one seems promising.
Agreed, I picked up an X100V as my first fujifilm camera and I love it. Been getting more into photography overall which has me second guessing my savings for a GH6
The glitchiness I have found depends on what memory card you are using some are fine others are like it is still writing to the card closing the file and can't do anything.
I'm so jealous of the "Frame Marker" feature. I wish my X-H2S had this...
what does that do
@@OffTheHookGirls it allows you to mark a cropped frame so you can compose your shot properly if you want to crop in post.
One reason I'd like it is so I can shoot at 6.2K Open Gate (which is 3:2) and crop to UHD 4K (16:9) in post; that would let me stabilize in post with the extra pixels and then crop.
How this lumix Gh6 camera eorking on cold weather?
Made the note squad!
thanks
It's now 2023 and I'm seeing this now available (@ KEH) for about 1200. Does this change the equation much ? And have firmware updates helped any of these issues?
For those still about complaining about auto focus, take a look at YCimaging channel here on RUclips this week. He is reviewing his C70 canon cinema cam. And he’s complaining about the auto focus! You can find Sony shooters saying the same as well. There is no perfect AF. The af on the gh6 is pretty good.
what would this be for Sport shooting ? and is the AF focus good like is in Gx8 m43 or is the gx8 one better?
and gh6 what is buffer rate and what is low light iso like
Is the LUT just for monitoring? Or is it for recording too?
How would this camera do for sports photography? compared to Sony A9?
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I was thinking of this for a b cam because I already have some MFT glass. I actually just bought a Canon R5C and 5 Canon lens
The open gate is ground breaking honestly.
Thanks,I am thinking to get the GH6 as my run and gun next to the bmpcc4k. ...🤔
Hi I’m a big fat fan I love your videos
Strange…using the GH6 since embargo and never had any glitchy issues…and I understand the full frame options nowadays however I don’t see the need for full frame while lacking more valuable features. I still prefer shooting MFT over my full frame Lumix cameras.
@dslrvideoshooter seems you got spam or hacked 😟
With the GH5 I'm not able to use a monitor with my Ronin Gimbal. Has this been fixed on the GH6?
Does the time code actually function fully as opposed to just jamming?
Sony FX30 is a real strong competitor now. Better autofocus, good lowlight, and only the ISIS is far away from what a GH6 can stabilize.
On what type of skin are you referring to???
Insane deal on Adorama. I just picked one up with the Panasonic 9mm 1.7 and all kinds of accessories for 1,872.05 after tax. I had to get this camera. Coming from a G9 and I still think that camera is great.
gh6 is 2k and over what camera was that
@@OffTheHookGirls ???
The DP Journey on firmware 2.2, (posted on his channel, with pic):
"GH6 Streaking update with Firmware 2.2:
The GOOD NEWS is that it's very much improved!
The BAD NEWS is that it's still visible, more subtle, but you can see it"
Wow. The nice HDMI info or while still having info on the LCD is one of my favorite features of the GH5. Definitely a deal breaker.
Are you planning to review the R7 as well?
I am curious about the glitches you mention. I have been shooting non-stop on my gh6 for months and haven't encountered any of the ones you mentions or anything even like them.
Also I TOTALLY agree with the HDMI out issue you mentioned. It's been a legit headache. Hoping it gets patched in a future firmware.
You omitted one piece of information though - are you going to keep using the camera? Also, would be great if you could do an X-H2S comparison because that's its only real competition I'd say. Well that and the S5.
Can you install more than one LUT on the camera ?
Great video! I’m still using my GH5🔥
Do you think they would have a GH6S coming out? Man, I would love one.
It's tough and also hard to understand pricing. Yes there are better options when you start to price match. But do the other options offer the amount of video focus features that the GH6 have? At the same time, I personally think that this camera should've been something Panasonic could've added to their full frame lineup. I'm not sure where they really stand on the MFT lineup these days. It was an odd release.
very informative, thanks for your video
GH5 also have open gate 6K.
How does the DR and noise compare with the BGH1?
Thx for all the tips& tricks.
I really like the GH6, but compared to the GH5 and 5s I'm having trouble with manual focus lenses, as the punch in function is too soft as DPRewiew has also pointed out. I need to focus more apparently...
Will we see an R7 video soon?
can i use this camera to upload 4k 60p video on youtube?
great video... will you be looking at the xh2s at all?
Looking forward for the Canon R7 review!
I own the GH6 and it’s an amazing camera. That being said, I still kind of regret buying it and would’ve rather gone with the Fuji or yes Canon
What has you regretting your purchase? I own a ton of M 4/3 glass as I’ve had Panasonic bodies for years, but I’ve been really impressed with my Fujifilm x100v that I’ve been looking at the X-H2S instead of the GH6
I think it’s all personal preference…I have both canon (my first brand) and Fuijifilm but do prefer Lumix. All good camera but being just a tool it all depends on the user’s needs.
@@SonofaFritzFilms exactly, I’m talking about the XH2s. It’s the camera that the GH6 should have been.
#6. I can't believe Panasonic has not fixed this HDMI issue. I am on GH5 and it has made me want to move on from Panasonic. Any idea when a firmware update is coming?
Very nice review on the pro's AND con's. I'll stick to my second hand G9 with the 12-60 F2.8-4 for video as the GH6 is simply out of my budget (still use the Sony A7iii for pictures). Have to say that Panasonic is still miles ahead in touch capabilities compared to Sony and the image stabilization - which was the main reason I sold my a6400 - is so good that I''m getting rid of my stabilizer. The Weebill lab was still better when walking but now I just grab the camera and I''m good to go no need to set it up and less weight in my backpack. Do you know if there is any production issues on the new PanaLeica 9mm F1,7 lens? Seems a lot of stores don't have it in stock. The 12mm of the zoom isn't wide enough when filming in tight spaces (tank turrets :-)).
I used 4tb angelbird cf express 5.7 k pro res till card full continuously .until 2.0 firmware update . After the update i get promt on screen cf express exceedes 2 tb. I did a short for both. Panisonic says in 2.0 did not address capacity.the answer
Thanks for this! I’ve been thinking about getting a gh6.
hi, what program u use for voice editing?
When are u gonna do a review of the fujifilm xh2s
Any way you could sell the LUT seperatley from the guide?
Soon to get phase detect, I wish the could add an adapter for the phase detect feature in Panasonic top cameras
It would sell like hotcakes at 3-5 hundred dollars.
You have more dynamic range on the S5 without high dynamic range boost
Didn’t the GH5ii have open gate?
Great and straightforward list of things. :)
Comes to HDMI output isseue - same story was with GH5. If you attach camera to gimbal and monitor, then internal monitor was black :( Limitation to 2 HDMI output signals, it was introduced in some version of the camera firmware for GH5. However, I hope now we can ommit that by connecting camera to gimbal via bluetooth and then use 2 otputs: 1 for external monitor, 2 for internal monitor. But, yeah it is very irritating limitation and what is the reason for it?!
For me the biggest downside is I can’t change the audio gain when I rec… Or I don’t know how to do it maybe. I know that on my R5 and R6 I can do it while I rec…
For exemple I shoot basketball locker room, so some people talk very low then everybody start clapping and screaming so it’s difficult to manage…
It's possible. On my G80 there was a feature called touch tab or sum. It's a quick menu on the screen where you can adjust audio too
@@Aviciiz Perfect, thank you ! You are a life saver :D
@@BACBAC90 No problem mate
I can't wait till they make a Panasonic S2H
Hey there does your GUerilla G-cup fit on gh6?
Also, the A74 is close in price as well.
I was extremely close to buying this and ended up grabbing an r5c instead. No regrets.
Wait, are you serious? 😅 Those two cameras are in totally different price categories. Obviously the R5C will be stronger
Yeah it was either, do I get the camera I really want that checks all the boxes or do I get one that’s a similar type camera with powerful features but a much smaller sensor and I opted for the one that checked all my boxes. I highly doubt I would’ve regretted buying a GH6, they’re extremely capable.
FF is the way to go. And reliable autofocus, and the amazing Canon color science straight out of camera. Too bad for IBIS and the battery life. I'm going the Sony route with the a7s3 instead 👍
@@laurenthenry the lack of ibis doesn’t bother me anywhere near as much as I thought it would after using an r6 for the last year. The electronic stabilization is very surprisingly good. I shot some 3-gun type stuff Sunday (like the John Wick training videos), running full speed behind people completely handheld with the RF 24-105 f4L lens and the footage is completely useable. Blew my mind honestly.
@@laurenthenry but you can’t go wrong at all with the a7siii, it would be tough for me to choose between that and an FX3 though.
Thank you. This was great. I've been studying with you for a long time and just got the GH6 a few months ago and also have GH5. I want to take your GH6 course. Is there a return policy? I doubt very much I would be returning anything but I just want to know incase it's not for me. I tried using the contact link to contact you but it defaults to nothing. Thank you.
i can deal with all the 7 bad things but one thing I can't deal with is it's boot up time and the delay between hitting the rec button and actually recording. ):
U didn't mention one fatal flaw in GH6. AF performance. R7 is superior with image quality and heat problem R3 experiences, but it lack ALL-I frame videos. I'm surprised by GH6's glitches. I'm actually waiting a7000 with 10 bit video and RAW video.😁
Could u PLEASE do a Fujifilm x-t4 review. 🤝🏼
@DSLR Video Shooter Nice video! But i want to ask you because I also have gh6 and I notice one more glitch with recording. Sometimes when I press record on the gh6. I must wait like 1 or 2 seconds before it starts recording do you also have the same issue?
For me it highly depends on what I am shooting in. 1080p and 4k mov content isn't really an issue, but I have noticed that on anything over 4k and just about any resolution in PRORES.
@@bennierenfro For me the resolution is not the case because i have this in 1080 in 300 fps also 4k 50 mp4 and other formats C4K, 5.8k, PRORES!
But sometimes in mp4 4k 50 recording starts immediately but i don't now why!