Such a shame they couldn't keep this momentum going & that they couldn't work things out with the classic lineup. All these guys are just as important as Dino. Now us fans are the ones who lose :(
It's pretty funny - now FF still plays songs from this album but none of the current lineup had been participating in this album. To me this is the best their album, when I was young I was blown away by this work!
Never had a chance to own this album Im a big Dino fan and love his side projects so I didnt listen to the dinoless albums. Fuck was i MISSING OUT! This album is one of their best and fuck im bummed i didnt grab this cd cause its so fucking hard to find and expensive as hell but thank you for this upload it definitely was cool to see hails metal brotha! 🤘🏻
Cool to finally see this I bought the tour version when it came out i was always annoyed at myself for not buying the making of Archetype Good album wish it was on Streaming
I never knew there were different DVD'S on the archetype special edition. My version has an Australian tour documentary. What country was this released in?
revivedfears I don't know, "on some US versions" is the best answer I could find. I eventually found a torrent and uploaded it here to share with other fans who, like me, only have the Australian tour doc Digipak.
@@revivedfears No they both came out in the US. If I wanted to a could have bought both, but I was in college and poor at the time so I picked up the tour one because I thought it’d be better to get some live footage. A girl I talked to in class told me she bought the making of version so she told me what I missed out on. It was probably a marketing scheme like X-men comics in the 90s. “Buy Both!”
Man, how times change. Now Dino is back in FF, and all these guys are not. Watching this 8 years down the road, and knowing the current status of FF, I had an epiphany - The current line up and lack of ALL the members in this band is DIRECTLY the result of choices Bell made. Raymond and Cristian didn't want to work with Dino, and Burton decided to for, and this is in his own words, the money. They lead to the lawsuits, which lead to bankruptcies, which leads to Burton losing his rights to the FF IP, which lead to Dino being the only one left in the band. It's all really sad, especially if you look back at around 98 or so and how much other media FF was branching into (games, movies, etc..). I feel like FF could be a HUGE band now days if they didn't all hate each other.
This is great but also makes me sad. They have such a passion here and it’s so interesting hearing them talk. Especially Christian and Raymond. I can’t believe what Burt and Dino did to Christian and Raymond when they just kicked them out of the band without even telling them. That’s some bs. Burt likes to talk about how the years of trials and drama with the band wore him down; well, sometimes it seems like he started it.
Saying that it made Demanufacture look like it was for beginners is only true if you took the time to write the Demanufacture riffs yourself, and we all know that was not the case.
True so true. But it's the easiest record they ever wrote Christian claims. But it makes Demanufacture beginners. Let's face it Christian learned from playing along side of Dino. He's good cause of Dino. But don't get me wrong I love this album and Transgression. But hearing Powershifter I said to myself "Now that's FEAR FACTORY!"
Yeah, I think Archetype is a great record, but Christian saying that the songs on there: 'Make Demanufacture look for beginners' is absolute bullshit to be honest. Songs like Demanufacture, Self Bias Resistor, Zero Signal, Pisschrist are fucking next level, there's nothing like that on Archetype.
Pretty sure he was talking about the drums. I got the vibe he was talking about them, not really the riffs. Like what he was saying how Raymond initially didn’t think he could play Slave labor. Who knows though.
@@demanufacture6675 he only said they “came up with some stuff” while jamming in the studio that made demanufacture look for beginners. Not that the songs themselves do. He means little parts here and there.
Honestly, has anyone heard this band like? Burton is the weak link. Don't get me wrong, he has a great tone in studio. He is almost tone deaf sometimes. It's sad because I am a huge fear factory fan! It is sad that he is a big disappointment live. I think he tries to growl through his singing parts. Kinda sad
Burton has a voice of the gods on album. But for real you try singing clear live. Movement, screaming, and fatigue takes a toll during an hour plus set live.
Seen them all the way back in the 90’s… Many times. Never had that problem. Even ten years ago. The new guy is not a step up though. He’s there for the fun; but the the FF message, the intensity, is gone. Saw them three mos ago and sadly I can’t recommend. Can’t go back.
Archetype is such a badass album
I love this album! Honestly it’s one of my favorites🤘🏻
It really gives a lot of insight into this record. Archetype is in my top 3 Fear Factory albums alongside Obsolete and Demanufacture
Same here! Always!
Such a shame they couldn't keep this momentum going & that they couldn't work things out with the classic lineup. All these guys are just as important as Dino. Now us fans are the ones who lose :(
You couldn’t be more right. Now it’s all just Dino and the music feels sorta one dimensional.
Great era. Archetype was the perfect rebirth of the machine, its soul has been really improved with it.
THis is the best FF album. All the songs are masterpieces!
Slave labour was such a great opening song for this album
Never saw this one before, thank you for the upload!
It's pretty funny - now FF still plays songs from this album but none of the current lineup had been participating in this album. To me this is the best their album, when I was young I was blown away by this work!
This is my favorite FF album.
Never had a chance to own this album Im a big Dino fan and love his side projects so I didnt listen to the dinoless albums. Fuck was i MISSING OUT! This album is one of their best and fuck im bummed i didnt grab this cd cause its so fucking hard to find and expensive as hell but thank you for this upload it definitely was cool to see hails metal brotha! 🤘🏻
I prefer this line-up more than the "classic" lineup. So disappointing about what the band has become.
This album proved that Fear Factory isn’t all about Dino.
Best lineup
imagine this lineup getting back together (under the name Archetype for example) and they play the same fest/place as the FF current line up...
Great upload! Been looking for this, thanks!
Awesome documentary, so good to hear some facts behind the record
Cool to finally see this
I bought the tour version when it came out i was always annoyed at myself for not buying the making of Archetype
Good album wish it was on Streaming
U can through a vpn
@@dakotahdunham9888 I Have The CD Still
I never knew there were different DVD'S on the archetype special edition. My version has an Australian tour documentary. What country was this released in?
revivedfears I don't know, "on some US versions" is the best answer I could find.
I eventually found a torrent and uploaded it here to share with other fans who, like me, only have the Australian tour doc Digipak.
They released both of them on the same day and you could pick which version you wanted to buy.
@@razrentals8897 aren't they region specific though? I think the euro version is the Australian tour and the US (maybe) got the making of.
@@revivedfears No they both came out in the US. If I wanted to a could have bought both, but I was in college and poor at the time so I picked up the tour one because I thought it’d be better to get some live footage. A girl I talked to in class told me she bought the making of version so she told me what I missed out on. It was probably a marketing scheme like X-men comics in the 90s. “Buy Both!”
RESPECT
Man, how times change. Now Dino is back in FF, and all these guys are not. Watching this 8 years down the road, and knowing the current status of FF, I had an epiphany - The current line up and lack of ALL the members in this band is DIRECTLY the result of choices Bell made. Raymond and Cristian didn't want to work with Dino, and Burton decided to for, and this is in his own words, the money. They lead to the lawsuits, which lead to bankruptcies, which leads to Burton losing his rights to the FF IP, which lead to Dino being the only one left in the band.
It's all really sad, especially if you look back at around 98 or so and how much other media FF was branching into (games, movies, etc..). I feel like FF could be a HUGE band now days if they didn't all hate each other.
Now it’s all tied up in lawsuits and I’m sure that is enhancing their friendships even that much more solid,,
This album is a masterpiece album 🤘🏻
soul of a new machine, my personal favorite
Good album man! Almost better then Obsolete...🤘🏼
1994/2000 was the best era
Human Shields is a great song!
🤘🏼😈🤘🏼
This is great but also makes me sad. They have such a passion here and it’s so interesting hearing them talk. Especially Christian and Raymond. I can’t believe what Burt and Dino did to Christian and Raymond when they just kicked them out of the band without even telling them. That’s some bs. Burt likes to talk about how the years of trials and drama with the band wore him down; well, sometimes it seems like he started it.
Olde Wolber is a riff machine/
This video is hard to watch now due to the many contradictions that didn't last long.
Saying that it made Demanufacture look like it was for beginners is only true if you took the time to write the Demanufacture riffs yourself, and we all know that was not the case.
True so true. But it's the easiest record they ever wrote Christian claims. But it makes Demanufacture beginners. Let's face it Christian learned from playing along side of Dino. He's good cause of Dino. But don't get me wrong I love this album and Transgression. But hearing Powershifter I said to myself "Now that's FEAR FACTORY!"
Yeah, I think Archetype is a great record, but Christian saying that the songs on there: 'Make Demanufacture look for beginners' is absolute bullshit to be honest. Songs like Demanufacture, Self Bias Resistor, Zero Signal, Pisschrist are fucking next level, there's nothing like that on Archetype.
Pretty sure he was talking about the drums. I got the vibe he was talking about them, not really the riffs. Like what he was saying how Raymond initially didn’t think he could play Slave labor. Who knows though.
@@demanufacture6675 he only said they “came up with some stuff” while jamming in the studio that made demanufacture look for beginners. Not that the songs themselves do. He means little parts here and there.
Honestly, has anyone heard this band like? Burton is the weak link. Don't get me wrong, he has a great tone in studio. He is almost tone deaf sometimes. It's sad because I am a huge fear factory fan! It is sad that he is a big disappointment live. I think he tries to growl through his singing parts. Kinda sad
I think he is hit & miss live. I saw them in a club gig a few years ago & his vocals were on point
Burton has a voice of the gods on album. But for real you try singing clear live. Movement, screaming, and fatigue takes a toll during an hour plus set live.
I noticed the same thing
Seen them all the way back in the 90’s… Many times. Never had that problem. Even ten years ago.
The new guy is not a step up though. He’s there for the fun; but the the FF message, the intensity, is gone. Saw them three mos ago and sadly I can’t recommend. Can’t go back.